UPDATE: I goofed up, apparently you SHOULD set a password. I was able to set a password after I learned this, but there may be issues, so just choose a password during the install.
Great video, Dweeb -- one other fun fact is that you can even use your WINDOWS Steam microSD card with Bazzite. SteamOS will mount exFAT, and it will recognized the files on the card, and then install a few additional files to make them compatible, and that's it. So for me, I have a dual-boot Bazzite setup, and I can use the same card on both OS interfaces and play the same games. That's probably my favorite feature so far.
@@RetroGameCorps Wait, so there's no problem with permissions or file linkage under exFAT? I know that the Deck doesn't store the compatdata folders (usually containing prefixes requiring symlinks) in the microSD, but if nothing else conflicts, why would Valve force to format the microSDs into ext4 if exFAT is seamlessly supported? Edit: Oooohh, maybe its because Linux ports.
@@qchtohere8636exFAT works perfectly fine under Linux and has for long time. Only reason Valve would want to avoid MS filesystems like ntfs or fat is their lack of symbolic links which proton/wine depends on.
I hope future handhelds can ship with SteamOS or an alternative like this out of the box in the future. This really makes it a good competitor to the Steam Deck OLED!
I would definitely pay to have the real deal steamOS on my rogally, but it's amazing we can get this version for free, real thumbs up for ppl behind this project!, im on the fence if I should give it a go or stick with windows, basically a laptop experience in handheld format vs a "real" smooth console like experience of the steamOS, I really think windows is dropping the ball hard they should offer a version of windows tailored for handhelds, quite sure there's some money they could make there.
@@morid0you could also dualboot and use bazzite for the console like experience, and windows just for windows related stuff, etc, and even take advantage of the storage from the windows partition(say a game you located there), may not work the fanciest, but should work ok.
5:40 There are light sensors on the motherboard that basically put the device in storage mode if light hits them. You have to plug the power cable in to restore life.
You made it look so easy. After an hour of getting it to work and me thinking I bricked my brand new device. I got it done and I wouldn’t have been able to do it without this video. Thank you. Steam OS is the only thing I missed from my OG Rog Ally
hello @TechDweeb, pretty good video, however a password is actually required for the user in order to avoid issues with things that require admin permissions and is mentioned in the install guide 😄, sadly we do not have much control over the fedora installer so we cant stop you from using an empty password (this will change in the future though once fedora irons out some issues with their upcoming new installer). everything else is actually on point and very detailed 🙂
@@TechDweeb i would advise it if you are able to, there have been cases of people not being able to set a password because they did not set one at install which is why the install guide mentions it is required 🙂
@@TechDweeb yeah should be no issues then, some people who end up setting no password manages to prevent themselves from setting a new password down the line which is an issue with us not having full control of the installer yet. Enjoy your Asus Bazzite X! 😄
I installed Bazzite on my GPD Win Mac 2. For a while I convinced myself that meant I didn’t need to splurge on a Steam Deck. It worked 95% but sometimes it wouldn’t wake from sleep or would do it really slowly. Updates uninstalled Decky Loader (think that’s what it’s called) which removed TDP control and one time I couldn’t get it back so battery life took a big hit. Then updates stopped working… It was amazing but just not quite a replacement for the real thing!
First off, it was truly awesome to have you on the "Retro Gaming Guy" livestream the other night, we always have a lot fun over there!👍 I have a Steam Deck and absolutely love it but if I ever get a ROG Ally X, I know where to come to get it set up like this lol. Thanks TechDweeb and love your channel bro!😁
This is really cool! I’m honestly surprised that ASUS or Lenovo (or both) haven’t just switched from Windows to Bazzite. That way they’d have a MUCH better chance of market saturation since it would offer a more console like gaming experience. Plus it would probably pull over even some diehard SD purists who love the OS, but yearn for more power.
I agree. That would be a great idea for them. Or at least make it an easy option to install in their firmware the same way you can reinstall windows easily.
I dual booted windows & bazzite on my 4Tb SSD. Windows: 1TB dedicated Bazzite: ~100Gb Shared bulk partition: ~2.9TB in btrfs file type (bazzite formatted) MicroSD: 512Gb -- windows open source btrfs driver installed allows me to share the game install between Windows & Bazzite and have games installed only once! Freakin awesome
The way I did my installation was: I prepared a usb with windows and one with Bazzite. I partitioned mi 4tb drive intro 3 parts, 100gb (should have put more) 100gb and then the rest 3tb. I installed Windows in a 100gb partition and Bazzite in the other 100gb partition. After done with that, using windows I created a partition with the remaining 3tb NTFS and used that as my steam location and both Bazzite and windows, now they share the same game files and also putted there all my roms. Didn't even have to use an sd card!
This was the answer I was looking for riiiight cha.... A whew that 3080 egpu is already a diamond in the mist but you have me very curious to see how it actually performs on the Steam os build..😊🎉❤
This is kind of crazy when I stop for a moment and think about it. Not long ago, your only option was Windows if you wanted to game on your PC, and only linux experts and fanatics sticked to gaming on linux. Then Windows "evolved" to be the universal operating system that can run on everything and do anything.. But I guess this was a little bit too greedy intention and didn't work out at the end. Meanwhile Valve managed to create and provide a better user experience and performance with Steam OS on the Deck and talented people can now port this experience and performance to other devices as well. With that, linux became the preferred option on handheld and gaming PCs. This is mind blowing for me.
Liked video for more validation of my decision to install Bazzite on my Ally X (I'm dual booting though... honestly not sure why at the moment)... subbed because of your thanks to the developers... or, cool dweebs, of Bazzite... awesome video
Man it’s crazy, I haven’t watched one of your videos in awhile and the voice you’re using now is sooo much better. If other people don’t know what I’m talking about go watch his “jobs are overrated” video then watch this one. Crazy 😂 , but better 👍
Excellent video. The only detrimental flaw is that I wish you did a better job of informing us about disabling ”fast boot”. This is key to a separation between success and failure when installing BOS.
one thing I'm curious about: does standby feature work as seamless as the deck? can you just hit the power button when a game is up and running and continue where you left off couple hours later?
Don't be like me guys, be sure to disable fast boot in Windows before overwriting your windows partitions, otherwise you'll be doing cloud recovery to get into windows to disable it to move forward with Bazzite.
Steam Deck is a beast because of the specific steam os native compatibility and the oled screen. For me it's my main indie/low demanding game console. And with this Bazzite thing I will enjoy a lot more playing more demanding games on the ally. For me the ally is just a way to play big games, but it's not the same comfort (even with this) as you have with a SD Oled.
This is great and makes the Windows handhelds a lot more attractive. My main gripe with these systems is also the OS. Windows is not pleasant to use on a 7-8" touchscreen. I opted for an OLED SteamDeck because I wanted a handheld gaming console and Steam OS is great for that. Here in Australia Steam is not officially supported so I had to pay about $800USD for the SteamDeck which made the price difference with the Windows handhelds negligible. I also like the idea of having a completely different OS on a removable MicroSD card. I use my SteamDeck like a normal person but also I have a MicroSD card with Batocera on it and a whole bunch of lightgun games. I connect my SteamDeck to my TV using a dock, plug my Sinden Lightgun into the dock and boot from the MicroSD card. I now have a super simple home light gun setup that takes up ZERO space on my SteamDeck. You might want to have a look at this as a video idea. Batocera V39 has native support for the Sinden Lightgun and OLED SteamDeck.
Using Windows with touch on an Ally is overall fine, at least about as fine as it would be using Steam with Steam games on a Deck. And plenty of common touch things like web browsing, email, video, music work well with touch. However, there is a lot of old battleship grey legacy UI in Windows that isn't at all touch friendly, but you see can see that too even on a Steam Deck as those old Windows UI elements pop up from these Windows games.
@@heatlesssun I am a self-confessed lazy console gamer. I gave up on PC gaming once a new graphics card cost more than the latest console at the time. Steam OS 'feels' like a console to me, which is what I was after. I had one game in my Stream library, CS:Source from when I used to play it at uni (around 2002) I now have quite a few more. Somewhat ironically the Steam Deck has gotten me back into PC gaming. 😁
I installed Bazzite on my Steam Deck. It's a bit faster than the original SteamOS, and more flexible and powerful. With Bazzite you get a newer Linux kernel and newer drivers than with SteamOS. Oh, and you get btrfs with data deduplication. No more wasted disk space because of hundreds of identical files of the compatibility layers in every game folder.
I have been using Bazzite for a while now. I first tested it on my Gaming desktop PC, then put it on my LCD Steam Deck. After it added support to the OLED Steam Deck, I put it on that one as well. I was running Aurora on my new IdeaPad tablet, but I was thinking of switching that to Bazzite as well (although not the Deck version, as I don't want it to boot directly into Game mode). I do recommend enrolling the MOK and keeping Secure Boot enabled, as it does help with security. If you do choose to encrypt the install using LUKS, there is a ujust command to enroll the decryption phrase into the TPM; allows you to use disk encryption without having to type the passphrase in every boot. Just don't forget the passphrase, just in case you have to type it in again later.
I’ve been debating whether to get an Ally X with Bazzite or Steam Deck Oled. Better performance and battery life has me leaning over on the ally x to be honest but I hear a lot of people swearing by the steam deck. Any thoughts?
Microsoft has to make an OS for handheld consoles otherwise it will loose market share. I mean, I use Windows since the 3.11 version (90s) and now I'm liking also the Steam OS and especially since it's possible to run non-Steam games using Proton. Although, I'm still more comfortable with Windows. It's not just a question of handheld consoles it's question of OS in general. Microsoft has to worry because people like me, who love Windows, can switch to Linux.
Not to mention that Windows 11 in general is a piece of garbage. Like, I haven't been this upset with Windows since, well, ever. 11 was the final straw.
Great video! Too bad you had to give back the Win Mini. I hear Bazzite fits on there nicely... I'd do it myself but all my free space is tied up and Gamepass drops new games all the time. The new Ally X is totally growing on me but I am waiting for Strix Point.
First off, great video. It seems to cover everything up to the point where ppl like me could panic - the no boot. Second: I was mildly shocked when my ears couldn't detect my beloved intro/outro theme :O
The main reason I wasn't into that is I don't like the idea of needing double the storage, because you'd need different copies of each game. Also I'd be in Steam OS most of the time anyways.
I'm using it like this. But I do install all my games on my NTFS and link app data folders or doc folders for local save files in bazzite from windows, it'll be the same and usable off either os. NTFS partition is like 1.75 TB and bazzite is 200something Gigglebytes
That is my reasoning, PC gamepass and games with Anti-cheat that Steam doesn't play nice with. Price of 2280 drives cheaper than 2230 or even worse 2242.
Couple of questions: 1) Any difference in battery life compared to stock windows? 2) How's the sleep/wake functionality compared to steam deck? I've never been so tempted away from my steam deck OLED! But between this thing's really high price, Asus being unreliable, Valve being super reliable, the deck's better ergonomics and the Ally's lack of OLED, I think I'll probably wait. Plus the fact that the deck OLED is still incredible! Though I have to say, so is the Ally X by the looks of things!
The only game I had to say Goodbye to was Destiny 2, but Division, Division 2 and The First Descendant fill the void for my looter shooter needs. I did forget to turn off secure boot, will need to go into BIOS and change the setting. Then it's off to install all my favorite games on the 4tb M.2 I installed. Once the bank account recovers from this purchase, I'll add a 2tb SD card for the lolz.
Pro tip: if you cannot get Wi-Fi to work you must boot back into Windows and turn off fast startup. Turn the device down completely and then it should be okay when it boots back into Bazzite.
Devils avocado! Could we get a video on macro keypads? Some industrious folks use midi controllers. Could be a good excuse to go into the history of retro BGM
I'll ask the questions I never seem to have time to answer myself: why choose Bazzite over HoloISO or Chimera? Are you considering a video on that subject maybe? Also, have you thought about running Bazzite from a portable hard drive? I know Batocera runs really well like that, but it is much lighter. Linux is a portable OS in most cases, so there are some interesting opportunities. Or maybe it's just me.
Ally X is just rog but black and better battery with lil tweak design that really it 😂 nothing like steam deck or steam deck 2 💯. Basically made same video twice ( rog ally) just with black version literally 😂
Should have those usb holes checked the goopy sound isn't normal I think ? Hmmmm. I like the idea of the simpler UI just for that console feel on the go.
For anybody following this tutorial, please set a password for the user. No password means your admin password is blank, which is a massive issue for security
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 the handheld images auto login, you only need the password when you do administrative tasks like changing things that require admin permissions. (also leaving the password blank can cause a lot of issues with other things in bazzite hence why it is a requirement to have a password and this is mentioned in our install guide) the desktop images require you to login but you can enable autologin in the settings there from what i remember.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you will rarely need to use the password. But without the password, basically anybody can get admin privileges on your device and snoop on everything. Not sure if you'd want that.
Hello I don't own a handheld but I use Bazzite on my Desktop PC, only OS for a year and half. Bazzite upgrades are much more frequent than SteamOS in fact Bazzite system components are much more current than SteamOS that is why it's compatible with the ROG Ally X already. Upgrade downloads happen in the background when the device is idle and when you restart you automatically enter the newer version of Bazzite. (no installing/applying upgrade bullshit loading screen, it's a normal restart). Hope this helps. EDIT: I actually didn't answer your question, the layer people call SteamOS is actually called Steam Big Picture Mode which is part of Steam itself it's just an application that gets updated as soon as Valve releases the update for Linux in general.
Bazzite/chimeraos don't benefit from the pre-compiled shaders from valve that helps with a lot games on the deck to reduce stuttering etc (sometime even a better experience than windows) right?
@@OneQuarterLife oh? So there are frequent downloading/updating of shaders for games such as Eden ring etc just like the steam deck? But are they from valve or dependent on other users of the same model of your device (to play/compile the shaders first before you benefit) since shaders precompiled by valve/steam deck users for steam deck should not be compatible with other devices/GPUs?
Battery is now even better. Linux is not that power costly like windows. Also, now you have a better hibernate system, which basically will help you save a lot of battery just with the power button. I think the important thing here is performance, my main concern if I am going to have the same performance as I have in Windows. Having this will make us depend on the open source project and third-party guys supporting the ally since Asus will deliver updates but only for Windows.
Well its not that simple it depends on the drivers etc, if they are not mature on Linux you might get worse battery life, and bazzite is one of the more bloated and slowest Linux distros sadly. @@iamsebs
So is there a specific system for plugging directly into your TV that's not horrible that you recommend? I'm just confused by all this stuff so there's a link to something that you have up here. Push me in the right direction because I'm totally ignorant with all this. Thanks.
I felt the cold chills in my back as your machine didn't boot at all... 🥶 Now, with the Bazzite option, any handheld pc became a competitor of the Steam Deck. And, yup, Linux is the future of the video games. Windows is now a crap bloatware with tons of useless stuff... I don't know if MS will release a "lite" Windows for handhelp pc, if they have that in mind of course. Now, the second step, is to wait and see if the prices will drop enough to catch the Steam Deck ROI grounds...
2TB microSD available now?!!? I was expecting SanDisk to be out gate first this year, but looks like some companies never heard of beat them to the punch. price is OK. not as bad as I expected. will upgrade from my 1.5tb now.
Can I get something like this to run on an M1 Mac, maybe some sort of dual boot or external drive? I don't want to pay for Parallels or some subscription BS plus having to buy a copy of windows. Do I need to be a giga nerd with cybernetic brain augments to make it work?
But then you'll have Steam OS and steam client updates or not? How it works with the software updates in general? However to be like steam deck 2... trackpads should be there! they are so handy to navigate desktop interfaces where you need the mouse.
you update the system and steam through the steam interface like in steamos on the handheld/htpc images, on the desktop image the updates are automatic (and can be disabled so they need to be done manually) and set as lowest priority if a game is running.
The problem with this device is that you're trusting ASUS that they're going to stand by their product .... I mean they literally released a replacement for the old Ally in a year, and they have been giving people nightmares with honoring their warranty. I guess the question is, is the higher performance worth worrying about if and when the device fails what will happen? I would love to buy this device, it's everything I want in a handheld, but I will not take that step because Asus is not trustworthy as a company.
Thanks, TD! Any news about EmuDeck for Bazzite on Ally X? I am not super familiar with Linux so would prefer for EmuDeck to setup my emulators right for the stronger hardware of Ally X.
@@TechDweeb And/or the XboX app on Linux! Because that's the only thing missing... I'm not going to subscribe to GamePass if it only works on Windows, sorry.
UPDATE: I goofed up, apparently you SHOULD set a password. I was able to set a password after I learned this, but there may be issues, so just choose a password during the install.
i love the videos and information you give and theres nothing wrong with all black
Great video, Dweeb -- one other fun fact is that you can even use your WINDOWS Steam microSD card with Bazzite. SteamOS will mount exFAT, and it will recognized the files on the card, and then install a few additional files to make them compatible, and that's it. So for me, I have a dual-boot Bazzite setup, and I can use the same card on both OS interfaces and play the same games. That's probably my favorite feature so far.
Whaaaaaaaaat!? I'm tryin this! Thanks for the heads up!
@@TechDweeb I know right? It’s kind of magical
@@RetroGameCorps Wait, so there's no problem with permissions or file linkage under exFAT?
I know that the Deck doesn't store the compatdata folders (usually containing prefixes requiring symlinks) in the microSD, but if nothing else conflicts, why would Valve force to format the microSDs into ext4 if exFAT is seamlessly supported?
Edit: Oooohh, maybe its because Linux ports.
I spent all my free time last week curating the perfect 1TB gaming sd card (retro gaming). Gonna try this on my legion go
@@qchtohere8636exFAT works perfectly fine under Linux and has for long time. Only reason Valve would want to avoid MS filesystems like ntfs or fat is their lack of symbolic links which proton/wine depends on.
I Swear to god I thought Bazzite was something you named. ESPECIALLY after the way you named the Anbernic products. Jazzbizzle!
Haha I actually was gonna make that joke but had to cut it because the vid was going too long :P
Same here! 😂
Legit was my first thought, I didn't even see the ROG Ally
The Bazz-zizzle!
*Anberlick
its pretty cool how after all the youtubers dropped these kind of videos Valve said that they’re gonna drop SteamOS onto the Ally systems
I hope future handhelds can ship with SteamOS or an alternative like this out of the box in the future. This really makes it a good competitor to the Steam Deck OLED!
Definitely!
I would definitely pay to have the real deal steamOS on my rogally, but it's amazing we can get this version for free, real thumbs up for ppl behind this project!, im on the fence if I should give it a go or stick with windows, basically a laptop experience in handheld format vs a "real" smooth console like experience of the steamOS, I really think windows is dropping the ball hard they should offer a version of windows tailored for handhelds, quite sure there's some money they could make there.
@@morid0you could also dualboot and use bazzite for the console like experience, and windows just for windows related stuff, etc, and even take advantage of the storage from the windows partition(say a game you located there), may not work the fanciest, but should work ok.
Annnd immediately installing bazzite to give it a shot. It ran super well on my Win Mini, might as well!
5:40 There are light sensors on the motherboard that basically put the device in storage mode if light hits them. You have to plug the power cable in to restore life.
REALLY!? That's so cool!
i wonder why they made it like that,
is it something about security?
@@mr.m2675its so the shit doesnt turn on when u have the handheld in pieces
You made it look so easy. After an hour of getting it to work and me thinking I bricked my brand new device. I got it done and I wouldn’t have been able to do it without this video. Thank you. Steam OS is the only thing I missed from my OG Rog Ally
Using Windows (on anything) feels like trying to play the violin with boxing gloves on.....
Well said
how to say you're low IQ without saying it
For ANY purpose really. Even the basic desktop stuff that Windows basically defined.
It take a bit getting used to, but it’s really not bad especially with what you can do here compared to Linux
Y’all be dragging it online it is really not that bad. Definitely an overly negative pile on online for windows.
Wait there are 2TB MicroSD cards now? Holy Shizzle
hello @TechDweeb, pretty good video, however a password is actually required for the user in order to avoid issues with things that require admin permissions and is mentioned in the install guide 😄, sadly we do not have much control over the fedora installer so we cant stop you from using an empty password (this will change in the future though once fedora irons out some issues with their upcoming new installer).
everything else is actually on point and very detailed 🙂
Good to know! I'll pin your comment. Would you advise I set a password via terminal now?
@@TechDweeb i would advise it if you are able to, there have been cases of people not being able to set a password because they did not set one at install which is why the install guide mentions it is required 🙂
@@HikariKnight I just set a password in Desktop mode. I hope this gets the job done. Thanks for the help!
@@TechDweeb yeah should be no issues then, some people who end up setting no password manages to prevent themselves from setting a new password down the line which is an issue with us not having full control of the installer yet.
Enjoy your Asus Bazzite X! 😄
It looks so much quicker and easier to replace the ROG Ally X internal SSD than the SteamDeck.
Definitely!
they both take like 10 minutes its easy
I installed Bazzite on my GPD Win Mac 2. For a while I convinced myself that meant I didn’t need to splurge on a Steam Deck. It worked 95% but sometimes it wouldn’t wake from sleep or would do it really slowly. Updates uninstalled Decky Loader (think that’s what it’s called) which removed TDP control and one time I couldn’t get it back so battery life took a big hit. Then updates stopped working…
It was amazing but just not quite a replacement for the real thing!
wow didn't really expect you to be here lol
Thank you , your comment is really helpful.
First off, it was truly awesome to have you on the "Retro Gaming Guy" livestream the other night, we always have a lot fun over there!👍 I have a Steam Deck and absolutely love it but if I ever get a ROG Ally X, I know where to come to get it set up like this lol. Thanks TechDweeb and love your channel bro!😁
bazzite is great i used it on desktop for a while, great video TD
This is really cool! I’m honestly surprised that ASUS or Lenovo (or both) haven’t just switched from Windows to Bazzite. That way they’d have a MUCH better chance of market saturation since it would offer a more console like gaming experience. Plus it would probably pull over even some diehard SD purists who love the OS, but yearn for more power.
I agree. That would be a great idea for them. Or at least make it an easy option to install in their firmware the same way you can reinstall windows easily.
Definitely agree!
I dual booted windows & bazzite on my 4Tb SSD.
Windows: 1TB dedicated
Bazzite: ~100Gb
Shared bulk partition: ~2.9TB in btrfs file type (bazzite formatted)
MicroSD: 512Gb
-- windows open source btrfs driver installed allows me to share the game install between Windows & Bazzite and have games installed only once! Freakin awesome
The way I did my installation was:
I prepared a usb with windows and one with Bazzite.
I partitioned mi 4tb drive intro 3 parts, 100gb (should have put more) 100gb and then the rest 3tb.
I installed Windows in a 100gb partition and Bazzite in the other 100gb partition. After done with that, using windows I created a partition with the remaining 3tb NTFS and used that as my steam location and both Bazzite and windows, now they share the same game files and also putted there all my roms. Didn't even have to use an sd card!
I have this on the Ally Z1 Extreme with Egpu 3080 16 gig on Oled c1 and works perfect !
This was the answer I was looking for riiiight cha.... A whew that 3080 egpu is already a diamond in the mist but you have me very curious to see how it actually performs on the Steam os build..😊🎉❤
This is kind of crazy when I stop for a moment and think about it. Not long ago, your only option was Windows if you wanted to game on your PC, and only linux experts and fanatics sticked to gaming on linux. Then Windows "evolved" to be the universal operating system that can run on everything and do anything.. But I guess this was a little bit too greedy intention and didn't work out at the end. Meanwhile Valve managed to create and provide a better user experience and performance with Steam OS on the Deck and talented people can now port this experience and performance to other devices as well. With that, linux became the preferred option on handheld and gaming PCs. This is mind blowing for me.
Liked video for more validation of my decision to install Bazzite on my Ally X (I'm dual booting though... honestly not sure why at the moment)... subbed because of your thanks to the developers... or, cool dweebs, of Bazzite... awesome video
Thanks man, I really like having the option to change RBG in the sticks ;)
Man it’s crazy, I haven’t watched one of your videos in awhile and the voice you’re using now is sooo much better.
If other people don’t know what I’m talking about go watch his “jobs are overrated” video then watch this one.
Crazy 😂 , but better 👍
9:50 Yey! I knew collecting Deck microSDs would come in handy...
Thanks a lot for testing Dweeb!
I'm currently using Bazzite on my laptop and can confirm it's great :)
"To play devils avacado" We need to protect this man/dweeb at all costs. Great vid as usual!
Would you consider doing performance comparisons with windows? Including battery.
Excellent video. The only detrimental flaw is that I wish you did a better job of informing us about disabling ”fast boot”. This is key to a separation between success and failure when installing BOS.
one thing I'm curious about: does standby feature work as seamless as the deck? can you just hit the power button when a game is up and running and continue where you left off couple hours later?
Different outro song? I dig it 🔥😎
watching you pop the steam deck sd card into the ally x and then boot a game xd that was a surprise!
Don't be like me guys, be sure to disable fast boot in Windows before overwriting your windows partitions, otherwise you'll be doing cloud recovery to get into windows to disable it to move forward with Bazzite.
Definitely wish I read your comment before I failed twice trying to install Bazzite.😢
So are you keeping this and selling the SD oled? Is there a point of having both now that the allyx has a huge battery?
Steam Deck is a beast because of the specific steam os native compatibility and the oled screen. For me it's my main indie/low demanding game console.
And with this Bazzite thing I will enjoy a lot more playing more demanding games on the ally. For me the ally is just a way to play big games, but it's not the same comfort (even with this) as you have with a SD Oled.
@@iamsebs good point!
@@iamsebs I like the capacitive sticks and trackpads that the Steam Deck has. Wish other handhelds had them.
As each day goes by, the Steam Deck version 2 has more and more to surpass (when it comes out) and I love it!
@TechDweeb
I love your Videos
and i love your humor😂
Greetings from Austria.🇦🇹
Not Australia☝️😌
This is great and makes the Windows handhelds a lot more attractive. My main gripe with these systems is also the OS. Windows is not pleasant to use on a 7-8" touchscreen. I opted for an OLED SteamDeck because I wanted a handheld gaming console and Steam OS is great for that. Here in Australia Steam is not officially supported so I had to pay about $800USD for the SteamDeck which made the price difference with the Windows handhelds negligible.
I also like the idea of having a completely different OS on a removable MicroSD card. I use my SteamDeck like a normal person but also I have a MicroSD card with Batocera on it and a whole bunch of lightgun games. I connect my SteamDeck to my TV using a dock, plug my Sinden Lightgun into the dock and boot from the MicroSD card. I now have a super simple home light gun setup that takes up ZERO space on my SteamDeck. You might want to have a look at this as a video idea. Batocera V39 has native support for the Sinden Lightgun and OLED SteamDeck.
Using Windows with touch on an Ally is overall fine, at least about as fine as it would be using Steam with Steam games on a Deck. And plenty of common touch things like web browsing, email, video, music work well with touch. However, there is a lot of old battleship grey legacy UI in Windows that isn't at all touch friendly, but you see can see that too even on a Steam Deck as those old Windows UI elements pop up from these Windows games.
@@heatlesssun I am a self-confessed lazy console gamer. I gave up on PC gaming once a new graphics card cost more than the latest console at the time. Steam OS 'feels' like a console to me, which is what I was after. I had one game in my Stream library, CS:Source from when I used to play it at uni (around 2002) I now have quite a few more. Somewhat ironically the Steam Deck has gotten me back into PC gaming. 😁
just downloaded this OS on my win 4, gonna check it out and see if i like it
I installed Bazzite on my Steam Deck. It's a bit faster than the original SteamOS, and more flexible and powerful. With Bazzite you get a newer Linux kernel and newer drivers than with SteamOS. Oh, and you get btrfs with data deduplication. No more wasted disk space because of hundreds of identical files of the compatibility layers in every game folder.
I have been using Bazzite for a while now. I first tested it on my Gaming desktop PC, then put it on my LCD Steam Deck. After it added support to the OLED Steam Deck, I put it on that one as well.
I was running Aurora on my new IdeaPad tablet, but I was thinking of switching that to Bazzite as well (although not the Deck version, as I don't want it to boot directly into Game mode).
I do recommend enrolling the MOK and keeping Secure Boot enabled, as it does help with security. If you do choose to encrypt the install using LUKS, there is a ujust command to enroll the decryption phrase into the TPM; allows you to use disk encryption without having to type the passphrase in every boot. Just don't forget the passphrase, just in case you have to type it in again later.
Okay hear me out. What if we get a Steam deck for the steam os?
Just kidding, love you Dweeb. Great video!
SD is just too weak if you value frame rate.
thanks for this awesome review! are the updates to bazzite easy to do? I assume they do have updates like on the steam deck
I returned ROG Ally just because of the Windows, didn't know about this!
Deweeb's hands were SHAKEY after it finally booted. LOL, phew!!!
Haha totally
Can you play anti cheat games with Bazzite?
What about desktop mode (for installing EmuDeck and the sort) does it work like it works on the Deck?
I haven't tried those specifically, but as far as I can tell yes it does.
Well, you've just created the "Steam Ally 2TB", nice job, gonna do it on the Lenovo Legion Go (just I don't have it yet)
I’ve been debating whether to get an Ally X with Bazzite or Steam Deck Oled.
Better performance and battery life has me leaning over on the ally x to be honest but I hear a lot of people swearing by the steam deck. Any thoughts?
i have bazzite installed on a a mini PC and it is a pretty solid OS.
Steam Deck reigns supreme
Devils avocado. Mike Bisping fan, eh? Respect.
Microsoft has to make an OS for handheld consoles otherwise it will loose market share. I mean, I use Windows since the 3.11 version (90s) and now I'm liking also the Steam OS and especially since it's possible to run non-Steam games using Proton. Although, I'm still more comfortable with Windows. It's not just a question of handheld consoles it's question of OS in general. Microsoft has to worry because people like me, who love Windows, can switch to Linux.
Not to mention that Windows 11 in general is a piece of garbage. Like, I haven't been this upset with Windows since, well, ever. 11 was the final straw.
I installed Steam OS on my Miyoo Mini+ from your April 1st tutorial. No need to install it anywhere else.
This is the correct answer
Great video! Too bad you had to give back the Win Mini. I hear Bazzite fits on there nicely... I'd do it myself but all my free space is tied up and Gamepass drops new games all the time.
The new Ally X is totally growing on me but I am waiting for Strix Point.
First off, great video. It seems to cover everything up to the point where ppl like me could panic - the no boot. Second: I was mildly shocked when my ears couldn't detect my beloved intro/outro theme :O
The Dweeb himself told me that he is only doing the intro when it makes sense for the particular script of the video.
I think dual booting Windows with Bazzite could give you the absolute best of both worlds. SteamOS for those games and Windows when you need it.
The main reason I wasn't into that is I don't like the idea of needing double the storage, because you'd need different copies of each game. Also I'd be in Steam OS most of the time anyways.
I'm using it like this. But I do install all my games on my NTFS and link app data folders or doc folders for local save files in bazzite from windows, it'll be the same and usable off either os. NTFS partition is like 1.75 TB and bazzite is 200something Gigglebytes
@@TechDweebyou don’t dual boot to play the same game on both os’s. You play games that the other os can’t play.
@illogik exactly haha I was so confused by the above reasoning. Like steam primary windows for those that can't run on it. Like pc game pass
That is my reasoning, PC gamepass and games with Anti-cheat that Steam doesn't play nice with. Price of 2280 drives cheaper than 2230 or even worse 2242.
Couple of questions:
1) Any difference in battery life compared to stock windows?
2) How's the sleep/wake functionality compared to steam deck?
I've never been so tempted away from my steam deck OLED! But between this thing's really high price, Asus being unreliable, Valve being super reliable, the deck's better ergonomics and the Ally's lack of OLED, I think I'll probably wait. Plus the fact that the deck OLED is still incredible! Though I have to say, so is the Ally X by the looks of things!
Is there a system battery charging limit of 80% in Bazzite?
I was watching your video and cut one of my fingers. Any game you can recommend to play with the right thumb out of comission.
Point and click adventure games. Strategy games. Hentai dating games.
@@TechDweeb wat
The only game I had to say Goodbye to was Destiny 2, but Division, Division 2 and The First Descendant fill the void for my looter shooter needs. I did forget to turn off secure boot, will need to go into BIOS and change the setting. Then it's off to install all my favorite games on the 4tb M.2 I installed. Once the bank account recovers from this purchase, I'll add a 2tb SD card for the lolz.
Pro tip: if you cannot get Wi-Fi to work you must boot back into Windows and turn off fast startup. Turn the device down completely and then it should be okay when it boots back into Bazzite.
this is the video I am looking for!!!!
After swapping OS, how are firmware updates handled? Do you have to switch back to the original ssd drive for that?
I think in that case you'll have to use the USB updater method.
Devils avocado! Could we get a video on macro keypads? Some industrious folks use midi controllers. Could be a good excuse to go into the history of retro BGM
I'll ask the questions I never seem to have time to answer myself: why choose Bazzite over HoloISO or Chimera? Are you considering a video on that subject maybe? Also, have you thought about running Bazzite from a portable hard drive? I know Batocera runs really well like that, but it is much lighter. Linux is a portable OS in most cases, so there are some interesting opportunities. Or maybe it's just me.
I just game on my Steam Deck in the living room when my kids are over so I can play with them and not be in my room away from them.
Performance difference between this and the switch is pretty insane.... But the price difference too 😅
Ally X is just rog but black and better battery with lil tweak design that really it 😂 nothing like steam deck or steam deck 2 💯. Basically made same video twice ( rog ally) just with black version literally 😂
Dude, it’s a handheld. Battery capacity is the key differentiatior
@@danwehmeier9717he clearly doesn’t own one
Should have those usb holes checked the goopy sound isn't normal I think ? Hmmmm. I like the idea of the simpler UI just for that console feel on the go.
For anybody following this tutorial, please set a password for the user. No password means your admin password is blank, which is a massive issue for security
And what reason do I need a password? I already hate needing a password to log into my PC. I just want to turn it on and start using it
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 the handheld images auto login, you only need the password when you do administrative tasks like changing things that require admin permissions. (also leaving the password blank can cause a lot of issues with other things in bazzite hence why it is a requirement to have a password and this is mentioned in our install guide)
the desktop images require you to login but you can enable autologin in the settings there from what i remember.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you will rarely need to use the password. But without the password, basically anybody can get admin privileges on your device and snoop on everything. Not sure if you'd want that.
During this handheld debate I've been team Asus over Valve; Just been waiting for this moment they addressed all customer concerns.
do you think that the Bazzite os can extend the battery duration of the normal ROG Ally?
can you try it?
I love how often you show Cyberpunk when playing. My fav game 💝
How are OS updates done? When Valve publishes an update to SteamOS, can you get it quickly, or does it have to go through the Bazzite team first?
Hello I don't own a handheld but I use Bazzite on my Desktop PC, only OS for a year and half. Bazzite upgrades are much more frequent than SteamOS in fact Bazzite system components are much more current than SteamOS that is why it's compatible with the ROG Ally X already. Upgrade downloads happen in the background when the device is idle and when you restart you automatically enter the newer version of Bazzite. (no installing/applying upgrade bullshit loading screen, it's a normal restart). Hope this helps.
EDIT: I actually didn't answer your question, the layer people call SteamOS is actually called Steam Big Picture Mode which is part of Steam itself it's just an application that gets updated as soon as Valve releases the update for Linux in general.
Bazzite/chimeraos don't benefit from the pre-compiled shaders from valve that helps with a lot games on the deck to reduce stuttering etc (sometime even a better experience than windows) right?
They do
@@OneQuarterLife oh? So there are frequent downloading/updating of shaders for games such as Eden ring etc just like the steam deck?
But are they from valve or dependent on other users of the same model of your device (to play/compile the shaders first before you benefit) since shaders precompiled by valve/steam deck users for steam deck should not be compatible with other devices/GPUs?
Do a battery test now.
Battery is a lot more important than raw performance now days.
Battery is now even better. Linux is not that power costly like windows.
Also, now you have a better hibernate system, which basically will help you save a lot of battery just with the power button.
I think the important thing here is performance, my main concern if I am going to have the same performance as I have in Windows. Having this will make us depend on the open source project and third-party guys supporting the ally since Asus will deliver updates but only for Windows.
Well its not that simple it depends on the drivers etc, if they are not mature on Linux you might get worse battery life, and bazzite is one of the more bloated and slowest Linux distros sadly. @@iamsebs
I really want a high-powered handheld device with dual touchpads before I would consider a) buying that and b) installing this.
So is there a specific system for plugging directly into your TV that's not horrible that you recommend? I'm just confused by all this stuff so there's a link to something that you have up here. Push me in the right direction because I'm totally ignorant with all this. Thanks.
Futurama reference get you all the Brownie Points. I agree with everything you say now
*zoidberg voice* Whoopwhoopwhoopwhoop!
@@TechDweeb Shut up and take my money!
Love bazzite, got it on my gpd winmini
I felt the cold chills in my back as your machine didn't boot at all... 🥶 Now, with the Bazzite option, any handheld pc became a competitor of the Steam Deck. And, yup, Linux is the future of the video games. Windows is now a crap bloatware with tons of useless stuff... I don't know if MS will release a "lite" Windows for handhelp pc, if they have that in mind of course. Now, the second step, is to wait and see if the prices will drop enough to catch the Steam Deck ROI grounds...
This is really good.
I installed Bazzite on my mini pc running the lowest end Ryzen processor AMD makes (embedded) and it seems to work well so far, better than HoloISO.
do you prefer this or the oneXplayer x1?
I thought this was about another Amblernic device in your naming scheme 😂
Thats alot of giggle bits
some benchmark SteamDeck 15 TDP vs Rog ally X 15TDP both SteamOS vs BAzzite will be great.
2TB microSD available now?!!?
I was expecting SanDisk to be out gate first this year, but looks like some companies never heard of beat them to the punch. price is OK. not as bad as I expected. will upgrade from my 1.5tb now.
Anything you missed the Deck's touchpads for?
Can you please test battery life in some games (at least one heavy and one light) vs the steam deck? I would love an ally x but I love steam os.
FYI this store that is scamming people is using your videos
Oh? Can you tell me more? Can you email me the link? thetechdweeb at gmail dot com.
Holy shit, isn't that copyright infringement?
"It's all downhill from here" Cool, going downhill is super easy, it's going up hill that is hard.
Can I get something like this to run on an M1 Mac, maybe some sort of dual boot or external drive? I don't want to pay for Parallels or some subscription BS plus having to buy a copy of windows. Do I need to be a giga nerd with cybernetic brain augments to make it work?
So with bazzite you can play the games that steam deck doesn’t have approved/ tested on the rog ally x ???
But then you'll have Steam OS and steam client updates or not? How it works with the software updates in general?
However to be like steam deck 2... trackpads should be there! they are so handy to navigate desktop interfaces where you need the mouse.
you update the system and steam through the steam interface like in steamos on the handheld/htpc images, on the desktop image the updates are automatic (and can be disabled so they need to be done manually) and set as lowest priority if a game is running.
Does this affect bluetooth capabilities? I have a ton of questions.
7:54 "Welcome to Steam Deck" ahah :D
The problem with this device is that you're trusting ASUS that they're going to stand by their product .... I mean they literally released a replacement for the old Ally in a year, and they have been giving people nightmares with honoring their warranty. I guess the question is, is the higher performance worth worrying about if and when the device fails what will happen? I would love to buy this device, it's everything I want in a handheld, but I will not take that step because Asus is not trustworthy as a company.
Thanks, TD! Any news about EmuDeck for Bazzite on Ally X? I am not super familiar with Linux so would prefer for EmuDeck to setup my emulators right for the stronger hardware of Ally X.
does bazzite improves EMUDECK?
Microsoft should release XboX OS for handhelds as soon as possible!
100%
@@TechDweeb And/or the XboX app on Linux! Because that's the only thing missing... I'm not going to subscribe to GamePass if it only works on Windows, sorry.