You made a comment about blowing the fuse on your truck for the 12v power to the trailer. Get yourself a circuit breaker and wire it up in place of the fuse. That way when it cools it makes contact again. Life saver when using the dump
Good video...this is another video on how to connect a relay so U don't have to keep unplugging your trailer when dumping a load. Would also recommend installing a wireless remote..can be in the truck lifting the trailing and /or all around the trailer...no cables!!
Looking into this type of side hustle for exactly the reasons you mentioned - to get out from behind the computer. It has been nearly 12 years since I had a job and while financially things are great, staring at the same four walls day after day does take a mental toll on a person. Interestingly enough I was only looking at dump trailers to haul a track loader so I find it fascinating the dump trailer itself could be an income producing asset.
@@lros I did. I ended up buying a 26' foot trailer and a Kubota U35 mini ex (financed it at 2.7% for 72 months) back on Oct 25th. All in all the business runs me about $1k month for the payments + business insurance etc. Its been slow off the ground, running nearly break even but its been very much a side hustle - I expect after I get my general contractor's license and start running some advertising it'll be one of the best decisions I've made in a long time.
@@CryptoCommonSense awesome thank you for sharing I hope you succeed. I just bought a used 3500 I am going to buy a 16’ dump trailer soon and will try financing a bobcat we will see how it goes for me I also applied for contractors license. I’m tired of being confined to my cubicle also. I’ll keep in touch see how everything going good luck sir
I have a plumbing business but I like do do excavation jobs in the side with my mini excavator. I’m also buying a stand on track loader and now I’m interested in getting a dump trailer to make some extra money on the side while my guys work on the plumbing jobs.
Smooth operator with that front end loader. Backing up with the bucket still in the trailer then smoothly lifting up while moving to clear trailer hahaha
Yeah, William is great. He’s dead on with the scales too. Some loaders don’t care and just throw x amount of material in. When I have the trailer, he always smooths the rock out to make it even left to right.
I was surprised that your trailer doesn’t have more of a steeper dump angle. I owned a dump trailer and found out the hard way that you really need at least a 47 degree angle. When you dump stone you don’t need as much angle but with mulch it can get stuck and create unneeded extra work.
Thank you for the detail information, i am too in IT and have a RAM 3500 Dually that i am trying to put to work as a side job on the weekends. Do you stay pretty busy ?
Quarry I do contract work for has a Komatsu wa500 in the fleet. Biggest pile of junk in their fleet. Since new it has far more down time than any of the yard loaders. Literally has been down for months at the time when it only had 2500 hours on it. Now at 9k hrs it just averages down a day a week.
Didn’t know you were VA! I’m in NC and just bought the smaller dump trailer that yours. Heavy duty 5x10. Had a few cleanup jobs with it in 6 weeks already. Good business to be in.
How is that possible? They pay you $500 per load? Wow 😮! I drive an end dump I make the same and I drive about 300 miles a Day and each load I deliver 23 1/2 tons. I make about$900-$1500 a day but I do 3-5 loads a day. 6 days a week. Man keep that hustle going. 👏🏽. I just subscribed 🤙💯
There must be something wrong with your electrical system if you have to unplug it every time you dump. Such as wrong fuse or insufficient wiring. You may need an additional heavy duty circuit going to the trailer for that purpose. Or you could just put a switch on the trailer to disconnect that circuit while you're dumping. That would be easier than unplug and replugging every time. It could even be wired up to a relay to automatically disconnect whenever you hit the button to dump. Just a few suggestions. 😀
I think it’s the way the nexhaul trailer electronics are designed. And this stopped happening when I added a second battery. I did think of adding a relay to cut power when the pump is on, but now with two batteries it never gets low enough to try to pull from the truck. At the time it only had a 400 amp hour battery which just wasn’t enough. Appreciate your comment and all very good ideas!!
And it doesn’t always blow it, just blows it sometimes when the battery was too close to dead and it would try to pull from truck. But now with the extra battery I’m storing plenty of power for several ups and downs. Seems that with 400 amp hour it’s just 2 ups and downs and battery is depleted if a full 5t. But all good now with the changes I’ve made
@@RockyBottomAcres it shouldn't matter, after you're done dumping the battery in the dump trailer needs the same amount of juice anyways to recharge. Just leave it hooked. The extra 2 volts makes it dump a little nicer, pulling a little less amps with higher volts
I've ALWAYS keep my dump trailer hooked up while im dumping that way it keeps the battery charged n can also do more pumps n a day n NEVER blown a charging fuse for the trailer
nice truck man I'm slowly getting there. I'm about to buy 2 acres and planing on building a warehouse and since it's on a busy road I'm going to hold my trailers there and make a big sign for them
Hey man that’s cool I ran into your video I’m doing the same thing in my town I started with an 2016 f150 about 4 months ago I’m now looking to buy a dump truck non cdl or getting some roll offs and trailer anyways this is good biz what your doing keep up the good work 👍👍
I recommend a Ford f700!! It’s what I have now and they are really good trucks. I still use this trailer for mulch (keeps it very clean) but gravel and dirt I use my dump truck now!
@@RockyBottomAcres nice! what’s the cost on that? I jest saw your truck on one of your videos it’s exactly what I want non cdl type, I have a 2017 f250 platinum and I put 4 brand new tires on it 6 weeks ago and my Back tires are completely gone boldly’s lol! Not to mention I also put 14ply tires on my trailer new but I guess the rimes can’t handle the loads they crack down the middle I have replaced 3 rims and 2 tires so… yah I’m really looking forward to getting the dump truck
That’s crazy. Ac kits seem to be $750-$1000 for the ones I’m looking at but I’m sweating my ass off in this truck. It’s been nearly 100 last couple weeks. I’m sticking to the seat!
Thanks for your comment. For sure, this will vary from truck to truck and trailer to trailer. I never had a problem before this trailer either. But something with the way this trailer is wired allows it to try to pull 50amp from the bat line on the 7 pin if it is not unhooked. And the 50amp draw will blow the 30 amp fuse. Blows within 2-3 dumps every time if not unhooked.
@@RockyBottomAcres your trailer lights circuit should Not be on the same circuit as the battery and hydraulic pump for the lift. If they are connected this is why it draws from the truck. Get rid of the trickle charger if you have it and get in the habit of charging your battery well in your garage every 5-6 dumps.
Thanks for your comment. Definitely recommended to have the vehicle registered commercially, and have commercial auto insurance and commercial liability insurance. I have these and they cost me less than 3 loads of profit a month.
Curious... if people are paying you to pick up and deliver mulch or gravel, why wouldn't they just pay the garden center to deliver it? How can you make money picking up the mulch and delivering? If they pay $70 for delivery from garden center, what makes them chose you
There’s a good chance they are marketing up material then. I’d check and see. If they are selling for $50 a scoop and the material costs $20/ton (and isn’t too far away) then the fee might be cheap because money is made on the material. Something to look into - not always the case.
@@RockyBottomAcres True. They sell for decently cheap prices. They are definitely making money on the stuff, but I can't get it cheaper than them since there's no quarries close to here. They get it trucked in in large quantities.
Yeah, can’t get those kinda prices around here. I’m charged $300 for a full load but to have that place also drop a load is $450. So to only make $150 maybe a load minus gas it’s $100 maybe. Also, tires for my dumper are $400, battery is $130. Hard to make ends meet with dumper trailer and truck costs. At times I was actually losing money and had to do other jobs since it paid better
Find a specialty product that allows you to charge more or less people have access to so you aren’t fighting for a business. For me, it’s screened topsoil (I have more own screener) and compost that I get trucked in via semi. Those two products run my whole business because not a lot of people around here have that product. There’s always money to be made, but if you’re competing on final price of every Tom out there, it’s going to be really rough
Looking at getting a gooseneck dump trailer to make some side money myself. I'm in nebraska and I assume some laws and regulations will vary, but did you have to start an llc? Carry insurance? How did you determine prices? Few ?'s.
I'm not in this business but you would never "have" to create an LLC. How you structure your company is up to you. Speaking of liability, I'm sure you would want to carry insurance regardless. A google search of your local country laws should help with what type of licenses/permits you might need. For prices you'd do some market research so that you're competitive. Starting an LLC is typically a good idea as long as you follow all of the rules associated with having an LLC, such as filing required annual/biannual paperwork and paying the fees. Never co-mingle LLC funds with your personal funds, determine how you will pay yourself etc. If you don't follow the rules of an LLC you won't have the liability protection it offers. For example, you accidently poor rocks on a customer's vehicle or injure someone...you're liable..so having a properly run LLC and insurance should protect your personal assets etc. Good luck, Brother.
Possibly, just depends on your towing capacity. You might get less material per trip but still possible. You’ll want to get or make sure you have a good brake controller. Also, you could focus on lighter aggregates too like mulch, compost, saw dust and shavings (for animal bedding). As opposed to rock.
@@RockyBottomAcres this is really something I want to do. This might sound like a stupid question but are you selling the material or just a delivery service? Any more information on that subject would be great!
Great video! Very informative, but I do have one question.. I’ve searched but get generic google feedback.. Where and how do you run ads for your services?
Facebook is where I run mine, you just boost your post, you can even pick your demographics on who you want to see it and it’s cheap for how much views you get, it will also show you the demographics of the people who viewed it.
i run a landsaping business myself we charge $400 no less in total for trailer runs and we dont have a dump yet yes the material is included plus the drive and convenience and more $ is added if we have to load it for the labor so like $400-$500 is the sweet spot for trailer runs
Im about to buy my first dump trailer, question is would you go with 24” sides or 36” sides on the trailer? I can buy one with 36” metal sides or buy 24” sides and add boards if needed. The 36” side lamar trailer is better built than others though
36” for sure. Mine are 30 but I put boards to make them 36. You will fit more mulch and mulch is a hot item in spring time. Pretty much all other aggregates will be heavier so you won’t need it. IE, you will reach weight before physical capacity.
Because when I had only 1 battery, it did not store enough amp hours for more than 1 dump. So if I had to go up and down more than once, it would try to pull from the 30amp power line on the 7pin. And I have blown that fuse 6-7 times. But the truck has a seperate fuse for the 30amp power line to the 7pin. Now I have 2 batteries + the purkey charger and never had the issue again since. But I still unplug it while dumping.
It's my understanding that this would be considered commercial operations and a cdlA license would be required maybe im wrong. I enjoyed the vid none the less.
Under CDL weight (26,000) will likely be different from state to state. The VSP, VA DOT, and my insurance agent have told me that it’s not for-hire driving as I own the material that I am hauling. It’s considered a private carrier. Class B would be needed as a single vehicle over 26,000 and a trailer not over 10,000. And a Class A would be over 26,000 with a trailer over 10,000. But the under 26,000 regs will vary by state. For me, being over 10,000 and under 26,000, it’s just a DOT physical.
@@RockyBottomAcres sounds like you've done your due diligence on the matter. I'm interested in trailers over 10,000 myself with gross combination less than 26,000 exactly what your doing here thanks for the response.
This may vary state by state, I’m not sure. But I am considered a private carrier not a for-hire carrier. The material on my truck or in my bed is 100% always owned by me from the minute it leaves the scales until the minute it gets dropped. For hire is transporting someone else’s material. Now, if customer called ahead and bought material, and I picked it up and delivered it, that is for hire as I’m transporting material that is not mine. In my use case and I have been stopped by DOT and talked with DMV, I’m not for hire, I’m a private carrier. The material on my truck is always my material.
PRIVATE CARRIER: A company that provides truck transportation of its own cargo, usually as a part of a business that produces, uses, sells and/or buys the cargo being hauled.
I'm curious how your getting around the the CDL requirement? as CDL is required by Federal DOT when your trailer is over 10,000lbs (Trailer + load). 5 Tons is 10,000lbs and i'm guessing that the nexhaul trailer is around 4900lbs. Meaning you legally could only haul 5100lbs of load. Wondering if your state has different rules then DOT. As I have looked into this with my truck and found out that I would need a CDL.
It’s not a matter of “getting around”. Federal requirements kick in at 26,001. Under 26k, does not need a cdl. The rule you’re talking about is a trailer over 10k and a gvwr total of 26,001 or more. State regulations do vary in this 10k-26k range though. In VA, totally legal as configured. It would not be if I had a dually, as I’d be over.
Originally when I had made this video, I either didn’t have the dump truck yet or maybe it was down. I shifted this trailer to a dumpster and mostly do use truck for deliveries now
It’s just my side hustle; I don’t rely on it as a full time job. Winter months and periodic slow downs wouldn’t really allow me to do it full time. You can advertise like on Craigslist, sign in your yard, etc.
Hey Chris! Thanks for your comment. Yeah, I serve mostly Augusta & rockingham county. I got some outlying deliveries that touch other areas but mostly this is where I deliver. I've actually upgraded to a dump truck now for more payload.
Hey, thanks for your comment! What I meant was that I keep the truck running when it's idle so that it's always charging up the battery. IE, I don't turn it off waiting to be loaded at quarry, or when I get out on the scales, etc. Obviously it does not charge when it's unplugged, but you must unplug this trailer while operating the dump or it will blow the fuse. So I unplug it only when dumping, but plug it back in. Many people shut their truck off to save fuel during idle tasks. I am saying I keep mine running to keep the batteries on the dump trailer charged. This is important if running back to back loads. I now have 2 batteries on this trailer as well. Sorry for the confusion, but I feel most know what I was meaning by this. But happy to clear it up for any other readers of this comment thread.
I have 1998 chevy 3500 with a 7' x 14' gooseneck dump trailer and I never disconnect the trailer from the truck and have never had any issues, but I also carry a second battery just in case
How many pounds of rock did you carry on each of these loads? Looking to get a older ram 2500 to start this side business they seem to tow 9,000-11,000 lbs would that be enough ?
Not if you'll be hauling that amount of weight often. 3/4 ton just isn't enough truck for that. Also plan on a class A CDL as that dump trailer is going to exceed 10,000lbs gvwr.
This can vary from state to state, I’m pretty sure on that. In Virginia, you don’t need a DOT registration or number if you don’t leave the state. No CDL required, but some states may require dot physical. Seems like there’s a little patchwork for under CDL from state to state.
Check the specs just to be sure, but yes you should be able to tow a decent sized load. Keep in mind the empty weight of the dump trailer but you should be good.
I have a 2007 1ton Chevy dump, also duramax (lbz). You have basically the Perfect truck for such work, even better than the one he's driving, believe it or not. All the newer diesel tech, shiftable Allison Trans, but no fuel wasting DPF or DEF (fluid) costing more. Enjoy that truck, it's the best of all worlds 👌~
Not in the state of Texas. However, if you wish to cover your trailor for potential damage, you might want to invest in insurance, unless you can make your own repairs.
@@RockyBottomAcres so between the truck and the dumpster/trailer itself do u need any license for legal purpose🤔im in Philadelphia, PA so it'll probably vary but im looking for something your size like a 14x7 dump trailer
With fuel prices been charging by the loaded mile, $5-$6 per loaded mile. There are occasionally times I drop below it a little if doing back to back and sometimes above if I’m hauling something like wood that has longer loading times.
I’ve considered getting two dump trailers. I own a construction company and we need 1 all the time. But the second would probably be leased out. The problem is I cannot get a CDL. I have to take methadone, only .8 mg for a neurological movement disease. Do you always need a CDL?
Under 26k, is more regulated by state. I do not believe a 14 or 16k dump trailer towed by a 250/2500 will need a CDL. That is my opinion, but I ran that setup with no CDL myself.
Do more research, that is not the case in VA. 100% fact. If what you’re saying is true every trailer with a skid loader towed behind a f250 or 2500, would need a CDL.. think about that. It’s once your combination is at or over 26,001, AND trailer is over 10,000, that you need a class A CDL. Btw, I do have a class A cdl which I got after this video for bigger hauling. But 100% you do not need it for this setup. Now if the truck was a 3500 or 4500, there is a chance you would.
Very nice video , i have a 2003 ford 150 5.4L v4 4x4 do you think i be capable of doing the same thing with a dump trailer or towing cars just for starting??? Im at Wisconsin
Check your towing capacity on the truck. Most dump trailers will weigh 3-4k empty. Make sure there is enough payload for the trailer + the cargo in the trailer. If I were to guess, you probably could only carry a few tons but check to be sure. Another option is an under CDL dumptruck.
You could do it for a while but you'd quickly wear out that truck doing so....its only rated for maybe 6-8k, a 14-16 foot dump trailer is going to weigh close to 4k empty, meaning you are only going to be able to haul 1-2 tons worth of materials in the trailer...and at that you are going to be max tow capacity with a 1/2 ton pickup...I wouldn't try it, way too much risk involved due to weights and being able to stop and maneuver quickly in an emergency.
I have the same 03 F250 with 5.4. I pull a 14ft 7 ton dump trailer fine. 12k towing is max, if I remember correctly. I don’t haul all the time or far. Get a single cylinder dump with a scissor hinge, not small twin cylinders. I just realized you have a F150, in that case nope. Mine F250 is at maximum capacity. However, the new F150 have the same tow rating, HP and torque as my 20 year old F250.
Hi I am planning to start this business with small budget. I am considering to buy used tundra. I would appreciate your thoughts on this type of truck?
Tundra might be a little limited. Maybe get a smaller dump trailer as I’m sure 3 tons or so would likely max a tundra towing (I could be wrong). Make sure to have a good brake controller on trailer.
A lot of different lead sources - I’ve used Craigslist with some success but not a lot, although it’s free. I get a couple leads a month there. Google PPC has been very beneficial to me. Also made a Google business listing in my area for gravel/dirt, that has worked well. And you can try Angie’s list / home advisor, people look there too. The best I have found so far is yard signs. I have a 6x12 sign hanging across two trees by the highway I live on. By far the most leads.
I now have my brother or dad doing deliveries for me. My dad is retired. How much I do it depends on my work load and the time I have available (I have several things I do outside of this)
6.29 tons 12,580 lbs. ~ 8,000 for the truck and about 4500 for the trailer. Yeah, sounds right to me. I did not replay video but that’s about right for empty
Yep, of course. I run it under my farm llc which is just setup like a normal business llc and of course have commercial and liability insurance on all farm equipment, including the duramax .
I’m just confused about where you get the business. Do you just post ads online and wait for individual consumers to order deliveries or do you pick up contracts from the quarry’s themselves?
12:00 You state you leave the truck on so the battery doesn't go down and then you unplugged the truck from the trailer... wouldn't that disconnect the truck from the electrical on the trailer?
In that exact instance, no it was no charging. What I was meaning is that I leave it running between dumps and deliveries as to charge between trips. Like I never shut it off waiting at quarry, etc. I leave it run to charge up between drops. The duramax uses only abou .3 gallon to idle for an hour. So I leave it running to keep things charged if I’m doing like 3-5 back to back hauls
So what do you do for dump trailer business insurance and general liability? Or you don’t have those and only running under an llc? Lawsuit can only take assets under the llc should something happen. Just want to know how you do it because I’m having a hell of a time finding insurance…..
Hi, I didn’t have any problem finding insurance. I have insurance on both the truck and the trailer, and an umbrella policy on the business for extra coverage. I did have to drop Statefarm because they couldn’t insurance it and went with a different provider that does more business stuff
@@RockyBottomAcres do you have a commercial insurance policy? Your set up, if used for money making (business) is required to carry a DOT number and a commercial insurance policy….. all trailers over 10k for business use, require DOT number. The insirance would need to cover anyone getting hurt on your trailer and coverage while in motion… the general liability is the hard part. Do you rent your trailer for dump use? Drop off and pickup later loaded?
@@RockyBottomAcres I’m about to just say f#@k it, grab business auto insurance, and file everything under an llc. It’s very hard to get insurance for dump trailer business. If I get sued, the llc is up for grabs and that it.
You can advertise in local yard sale groups, Craiglist, or Facebook ads. I live off a highway so I’ve made a pretty big billboard. Careful not to price your services too cheaply - there are significant expenses maintaining equipment. You should use $65/hr for your transport time at a minimum; or $4/mi from pickup to drop off location. If you go too cheap to make orders, you might quickly find yourself unable to pay yourself and afford the upkeep. I’m charging rock price at quarry + delivery.
@@RockyBottomAcres I've been looking hard into getting a little dump business started.. headed to CDL school first. My dually is rated for over 13k so any real trailer weight is going to put me over
Honestly because of the narrowness of the drive, I don’t think I would have made it in there with a gooseneck. I would have needed far more swing to keep the trailer tracked on pavement. I have a flatbed gooseneck for equipment and prefer it a lot more for sure.
You made a comment about blowing the fuse on your truck for the 12v power to the trailer. Get yourself a circuit breaker and wire it up in place of the fuse. That way when it cools it makes contact again. Life saver when using the dump
Nice video, Mike. Informative and entertaining. Keep it up!
That loader operator is my spirit animal!
Good video...this is another video on how to connect a relay so U don't have to keep unplugging your trailer when dumping a load. Would also recommend installing a wireless remote..can be in the truck lifting the trailing and /or all around the trailer...no cables!!
Looking into this type of side hustle for exactly the reasons you mentioned - to get out from behind the computer. It has been nearly 12 years since I had a job and while financially things are great, staring at the same four walls day after day does take a mental toll on a person. Interestingly enough I was only looking at dump trailers to haul a track loader so I find it fascinating the dump trailer itself could be an income producing asset.
So did you ever start and how did it go ? Reason I ask I am also considering this
@@lros I did. I ended up buying a 26' foot trailer and a Kubota U35 mini ex (financed it at 2.7% for 72 months) back on Oct 25th. All in all the business runs me about $1k month for the payments + business insurance etc. Its been slow off the ground, running nearly break even but its been very much a side hustle - I expect after I get my general contractor's license and start running some advertising it'll be one of the best decisions I've made in a long time.
@@CryptoCommonSense awesome thank you for sharing I hope you succeed. I just bought a used 3500 I am going to buy a 16’ dump trailer soon and will try financing a bobcat we will see how it goes for me I also applied for contractors license. I’m tired of being confined to my cubicle also. I’ll keep in touch see how everything going good luck sir
@@lros Good luck with it! We bought a solid 1999 F250 to pull everything so were able to save some $$$ in the truck department thankfully.
@@CryptoCommonSenseHow do you advertise your service? How's it going?
I have a plumbing business but I like do do excavation jobs in the side with my mini excavator. I’m also buying a stand on track loader and now I’m interested in getting a dump trailer to make some extra money on the side while my guys work on the plumbing jobs.
Smooth operator with that front end loader. Backing up with the bucket still in the trailer then smoothly lifting up while moving to clear trailer hahaha
Yeah, William is great. He’s dead on with the scales too. Some loaders don’t care and just throw x amount of material in. When I have the trailer, he always smooths the rock out to make it even left to right.
i was thinking exactly that
Yep this guys at my work said just think it and it happens most been operating for decades.
no way that's my buddies quarry haha looking at different dump trailer videos and found this, cool stuff man.
Been to that quarry many times. Nice people!
Yes, probably nicest from any quarry I’ve been too honestly
I was surprised that your trailer doesn’t have more of a steeper dump angle. I owned a dump trailer and found out the hard way that you really need at least a 47 degree angle. When you dump stone you don’t need as much angle but with mulch it can get stuck and create unneeded extra work.
Also the trailer lift seems to be attached at the worst possible point of leverage!
That's why he got it for 7500... high quality dumps r 15k... it works for his messing around.
Its good to leave it running anyway other than the battery, the Engine has been working good regardless so letting it idle is real good for it.
I bought a 2018 f150 lariat. It’s my first truck but I want to make money out of it is this possible?
Good video. Thanks for making it.
Thank you for the detail information, i am too in IT and have a RAM 3500 Dually that i am trying to put to work as a side job on the weekends.
Do you stay pretty busy ?
I'd recommend wiring in a relay on your trailer, so you don't have to unplug it when you dump. Did it on mine, and don't have to worry about it.
I did. An easy fix.
Awesome video I’m looking into getting my own dump trailer what brand would you recommend?
Nice side hustle & tips. Full play & 👍. What brand dump trailer would you but today if buying again?
Quarry I do contract work for has a Komatsu wa500 in the fleet. Biggest pile of junk in their fleet. Since new it has far more down time than any of the yard loaders. Literally has been down for months at the time when it only had 2500 hours on it. Now at 9k hrs it just averages down a day a week.
Didn’t know you were VA! I’m in NC and just bought the smaller dump trailer that yours. Heavy duty 5x10. Had a few cleanup jobs with it in 6 weeks already. Good business to be in.
Same I'm in NC just got a 18ft car hauler and picking up a 6x10 dump today, hoping to make some decent money with them
Did you have to do the cleaning up or just provide the hauling?
Had this exact same idea for my business
So connect with the Quarries
Is how you get customers
How is that possible? They pay you $500 per load? Wow 😮! I drive an end dump I make the same and I drive about 300 miles a Day and each load I deliver 23 1/2 tons. I make about$900-$1500 a day but I do 3-5 loads a day. 6 days a week. Man keep that hustle going. 👏🏽. I just subscribed 🤙💯
Hey, thanks for the comment! I make about $1,000 a week, not a day. I make about $100 a load, and do about 2 short loads a day.
@@RockyBottomAcres awesome 👏🏽 keep up the hard work. 💯
Im interested in getting into the business. Any tips. I live 5 miles from quarry.
There must be something wrong with your electrical system if you have to unplug it every time you dump.
Such as wrong fuse or insufficient wiring. You may need an additional heavy duty circuit going to the trailer for that purpose.
Or you could just put a switch on the trailer to disconnect that circuit while you're dumping. That would be easier than unplug and replugging every time. It could even be wired up to a relay to automatically disconnect whenever you hit the button to dump.
Just a few suggestions. 😀
I think it’s the way the nexhaul trailer electronics are designed. And this stopped happening when I added a second battery. I did think of adding a relay to cut power when the pump is on, but now with two batteries it never gets low enough to try to pull from the truck. At the time it only had a 400 amp hour battery which just wasn’t enough. Appreciate your comment and all very good ideas!!
And it doesn’t always blow it, just blows it sometimes when the battery was too close to dead and it would try to pull from truck. But now with the extra battery I’m storing plenty of power for several ups and downs. Seems that with 400 amp hour it’s just 2 ups and downs and battery is depleted if a full 5t. But all good now with the changes I’ve made
@@RockyBottomAcres it shouldn't matter, after you're done dumping the battery in the dump trailer needs the same amount of juice anyways to recharge. Just leave it hooked. The extra 2 volts makes it dump a little nicer, pulling a little less amps with higher volts
I've ALWAYS keep my dump trailer hooked up while im dumping that way it keeps the battery charged n can also do more pumps n a day n NEVER blown a charging fuse for the trailer
Yes, it’s definitely something about this specific trailer. I ended up selling it and upgrading to a bigger truck.
Man, I’m watching this and I thought that road looked familiar! I didn’t know you were in Verona!
Super cool
nice truck man I'm slowly getting there. I'm about to buy 2 acres and planing on building a warehouse and since it's on a busy road I'm going to hold my trailers there and make a big sign for them
Hey cool video! Question, how do you gets these jobs? Do you have a software or ads? I want to do a side hustle by I keep my W2.thanks!
Hey man that’s cool I ran into your video I’m doing the same thing in my town I started with an 2016 f150 about 4 months ago I’m now looking to buy a dump truck non cdl or getting some roll offs and trailer anyways this is good biz what your doing keep up the good work 👍👍
I recommend a Ford f700!! It’s what I have now and they are really good trucks. I still use this trailer for mulch (keeps it very clean) but gravel and dirt I use my dump truck now!
@@RockyBottomAcres thx I will be looking at a dump truck next week it’s also a f700 but it’s a 2003 with a the Cummins no AC 🥵
@@rayray7663 Plan on adding AC... I am about to get a universal kit. The truck gets so messy having to keep windows down. Biggest mistake with it.
@@RockyBottomAcres nice! what’s the cost on that? I jest saw your truck on one of your videos it’s exactly what I want non cdl type, I have a 2017 f250 platinum and I put 4 brand new tires on it 6 weeks ago and my Back tires are completely gone boldly’s lol! Not to mention I also put 14ply tires on my trailer new but I guess the rimes can’t handle the loads they crack down the middle I have replaced 3 rims and 2 tires so… yah I’m really looking forward to getting the dump truck
That’s crazy. Ac kits seem to be $750-$1000 for the ones I’m looking at but I’m sweating my ass off in this truck. It’s been nearly 100 last couple weeks. I’m sticking to the seat!
I have never in over 15 years had a problem dumping the trailer while leaving it hooked to the truck
Thanks for your comment. For sure, this will vary from truck to truck and trailer to trailer. I never had a problem before this trailer either. But something with the way this trailer is wired allows it to try to pull 50amp from the bat line on the 7 pin if it is not unhooked. And the 50amp draw will blow the 30 amp fuse. Blows within 2-3 dumps every time if not unhooked.
@@RockyBottomAcres your trailer lights circuit should Not be on the same circuit as the battery and hydraulic pump for the lift. If they are connected this is why it draws from the truck. Get rid of the trickle charger if you have it and get in the habit of charging your battery well in your garage every 5-6 dumps.
@@RockyBottomAcreshow much do you get for these deliveries and how would you go about finding them if you want to start this?
do you have any recommendations on how to advertise? I just got a dump trailer and I'm trying to maximize the amount of money I'm making with it
Shenandoah valley area I see, I’m in central Virginia. Great video👍🏼
Hi Tristan, thanks for your comment. I run out of Harrisonburg typically. Where about are you located?
@@RockyBottomAcres located in western Hanover / louisa county area
To haul material like this is there any dot requirements? Permits,inspections, insurance? Thanks
What type of truck do you have?
Awesome info! Do you have to have additional insurance for this type of work?
Thanks for your comment. Definitely recommended to have the vehicle registered commercially, and have commercial auto insurance and commercial liability insurance. I have these and they cost me less than 3 loads of profit a month.
@@RockyBottomAcres, thank you for quick response. Subscribing to your channel now!
Good info
Pretty amazing you can do this with my dump trailer!? How do you get the calls to come in?
How do you find the loads
Curious... if people are paying you to pick up and deliver mulch or gravel, why wouldn't they just pay the garden center to deliver it? How can you make money picking up the mulch and delivering? If they pay $70 for delivery from garden center, what makes them chose you
Nice side hustle. Around here we have garden centers that delivery 5 tons and under for like $40...there's no competing with them.
There’s a good chance they are marketing up material then. I’d check and see. If they are selling for $50 a scoop and the material costs $20/ton (and isn’t too far away) then the fee might be cheap because money is made on the material. Something to look into - not always the case.
@@RockyBottomAcres True. They sell for decently cheap prices. They are definitely making money on the stuff, but I can't get it cheaper than them since there's no quarries close to here. They get it trucked in in large quantities.
Nice video. How do you advertise
what flavor Truck you running?
Where do you get the jobs is there an app or do we list on market place or cl ?
Where u find the loads?
Yeah, can’t get those kinda prices around here. I’m charged $300 for a full load but to have that place also drop a load is $450. So to only make $150 maybe a load minus gas it’s $100 maybe. Also, tires for my dumper are $400, battery is $130. Hard to make ends meet with dumper trailer and truck costs. At times I was actually losing money and had to do other jobs since it paid better
Find a specialty product that allows you to charge more or less people have access to so you aren’t fighting for a business. For me, it’s screened topsoil (I have more own screener) and compost that I get trucked in via semi. Those two products run my whole business because not a lot of people around here have that product. There’s always money to be made, but if you’re competing on final price of every Tom out there, it’s going to be really rough
Looking at getting a gooseneck dump trailer to make some side money myself. I'm in nebraska and I assume some laws and regulations will vary, but did you have to start an llc? Carry insurance? How did you determine prices? Few ?'s.
I'm not in this business but you would never "have" to create an LLC. How you structure your company is up to you. Speaking of liability, I'm sure you would want to carry insurance regardless. A google search of your local country laws should help with what type of licenses/permits you might need. For prices you'd do some market research so that you're competitive. Starting an LLC is typically a good idea as long as you follow all of the rules associated with having an LLC, such as filing required annual/biannual paperwork and paying the fees. Never co-mingle LLC funds with your personal funds, determine how you will pay yourself etc. If you don't follow the rules of an LLC you won't have the liability protection it offers. For example, you accidently poor rocks on a customer's vehicle or injure someone...you're liable..so having a properly run LLC and insurance should protect your personal assets etc. Good luck, Brother.
What do you charge per dump like that?
Hi
What is the name of the quarry you go to? And the location?
Thanks
I'd like to know a bit about your IT work
How do you charge per delivery
How many times can you dump heavy materials before the battery gets weak?
I’ve done about 4 back to back. Now I have 2 batteries tied together with the purkey charger, and have not had a problem running it all day long
Thanks for the video. Do I need a diesel truck or would a 1500 Silverado gas truck work?
Possibly, just depends on your towing capacity. You might get less material per trip but still possible. You’ll want to get or make sure you have a good brake controller. Also, you could focus on lighter aggregates too like mulch, compost, saw dust and shavings (for animal bedding). As opposed to rock.
@@RockyBottomAcres this is really something I want to do. This might sound like a stupid question but are you selling the material or just a delivery service? Any more information on that subject would be great!
Great video! Very informative, but I do have one question.. I’ve searched but get generic google feedback.. Where and how do you run ads for your services?
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Facebook is where I run mine, you just boost your post, you can even pick your demographics on who you want to see it and it’s cheap for how much views you get, it will also show you the demographics of the people who viewed it.
@@reecemoore7602 what type truck are you using to pull and dump body size?
@@babygonightnight looks like a duramax
How are you making $? Are you just charging for the delivery or are you adding a % to the cost of the material?
i run a landsaping business myself we charge $400 no less in total for trailer runs and we dont have a dump yet yes the material is included plus the drive and convenience and more $ is added if we have to load it for the labor so like $400-$500 is the sweet spot for trailer runs
Im about to buy my first dump trailer, question is would you go with 24” sides or 36” sides on the trailer? I can buy one with 36” metal sides or buy 24” sides and add boards if needed. The 36” side lamar trailer is better built than others though
36” for sure. Mine are 30 but I put boards to make them 36. You will fit more mulch and mulch is a hot item in spring time. Pretty much all other aggregates will be heavier so you won’t need it. IE, you will reach weight before physical capacity.
Not sure how you would blow the fuse. Hydraulics run off the battery in the trailer. Plug does the lights and trickle charge.
Because when I had only 1 battery, it did not store enough amp hours for more than 1 dump. So if I had to go up and down more than once, it would try to pull from the 30amp power line on the 7pin. And I have blown that fuse 6-7 times. But the truck has a seperate fuse for the 30amp power line to the 7pin.
Now I have 2 batteries + the purkey charger and never had the issue again since. But I still unplug it while dumping.
The power line on the 7pin is a 30amp feed - not a trickle charge. And this could totally be truck specific.
How do you charge?
It's my understanding that this would be considered commercial operations and a cdlA license would be required maybe im wrong. I enjoyed the vid none the less.
Under CDL weight (26,000) will likely be different from state to state. The VSP, VA DOT, and my insurance agent have told me that it’s not for-hire driving as I own the material that I am hauling. It’s considered a private carrier. Class B would be needed as a single vehicle over 26,000 and a trailer not over 10,000. And a Class A would be over 26,000 with a trailer over 10,000. But the under 26,000 regs will vary by state. For me, being over 10,000 and under 26,000, it’s just a DOT physical.
@@RockyBottomAcres sounds like you've done your due diligence on the matter. I'm interested in trailers over 10,000 myself with gross combination less than 26,000 exactly what your doing here thanks for the response.
@@RockyBottomAcres you are for hire. your selling services and product..
This may vary state by state, I’m not sure. But I am considered a private carrier not a for-hire carrier. The material on my truck or in my bed is 100% always owned by me from the minute it leaves the scales until the minute it gets dropped. For hire is transporting someone else’s material. Now, if customer called ahead and bought material, and I picked it up and delivered it, that is for hire as I’m transporting material that is not mine. In my use case and I have been stopped by DOT and talked with DMV, I’m not for hire, I’m a private carrier. The material on my truck is always my material.
PRIVATE CARRIER: A company that provides truck transportation of its own cargo, usually as a part of a business that produces, uses, sells and/or buys the cargo being hauled.
Kool.
How do you advertise?
I'm curious how your getting around the the CDL requirement? as CDL is required by Federal DOT when your trailer is over 10,000lbs (Trailer + load). 5 Tons is 10,000lbs and i'm guessing that the nexhaul trailer is around 4900lbs. Meaning you legally could only haul 5100lbs of load. Wondering if your state has different rules then DOT. As I have looked into this with my truck and found out that I would need a CDL.
It’s not a matter of “getting around”. Federal requirements kick in at 26,001. Under 26k, does not need a cdl. The rule you’re talking about is a trailer over 10k and a gvwr total of 26,001 or more. State regulations do vary in this 10k-26k range though. In VA, totally legal as configured. It would not be if I had a dually, as I’d be over.
I just bought a dump truck myself, wondering why you use the dump trailer instead of the single axle truck?
Originally when I had made this video, I either didn’t have the dump truck yet or maybe it was down. I shifted this trailer to a dumpster and mostly do use truck for deliveries now
How big is that trailer please
How do you get your business and is this on the side of a regular full time job?
It’s just my side hustle; I don’t rely on it as a full time job. Winter months and periodic slow downs wouldn’t really allow me to do it full time. You can advertise like on Craigslist, sign in your yard, etc.
I see the Verona Exit. Your in my area.
Hey Chris! Thanks for your comment. Yeah, I serve mostly Augusta & rockingham county. I got some outlying deliveries that touch other areas but mostly this is where I deliver. I've actually upgraded to a dump truck now for more payload.
Truck running to charge battery on trailer but also disconnect trailer to avoid pulling juice and blowing fuse?
Hey, thanks for your comment! What I meant was that I keep the truck running when it's idle so that it's always charging up the battery. IE, I don't turn it off waiting to be loaded at quarry, or when I get out on the scales, etc. Obviously it does not charge when it's unplugged, but you must unplug this trailer while operating the dump or it will blow the fuse. So I unplug it only when dumping, but plug it back in. Many people shut their truck off to save fuel during idle tasks. I am saying I keep mine running to keep the batteries on the dump trailer charged. This is important if running back to back loads. I now have 2 batteries on this trailer as well. Sorry for the confusion, but I feel most know what I was meaning by this. But happy to clear it up for any other readers of this comment thread.
I have 1998 chevy 3500 with a 7' x 14' gooseneck dump trailer and I never disconnect the trailer from the truck and have never had any issues, but I also carry a second battery just in case
So you pay for the gravel before hand and then sell it? They don’t pay money for rock up front?
I front the material at pickup, then give the customer 1 final delivered price
Can you use any truck
How many pounds of rock did you carry on each of these loads? Looking to get a older ram 2500 to start this side business they seem to tow 9,000-11,000 lbs would that be enough ?
That was, I believe, 5.25 tons payload.
Not if you'll be hauling that amount of weight often. 3/4 ton just isn't enough truck for that. Also plan on a class A CDL as that dump trailer is going to exceed 10,000lbs gvwr.
So do you need DOT or anything else to do this?
This can vary from state to state, I’m pretty sure on that. In Virginia, you don’t need a DOT registration or number if you don’t leave the state. No CDL required, but some states may require dot physical. Seems like there’s a little patchwork for under CDL from state to state.
I have a 2007 Chevy Silverado hd classic 2500 duramax !! Do you think it will be enough to do the job!!! Thanks
Check the specs just to be sure, but yes you should be able to tow a decent sized load. Keep in mind the empty weight of the dump trailer but you should be good.
I have a 2007 1ton Chevy dump, also duramax (lbz). You have basically the Perfect truck for such work, even better than the one he's driving, believe it or not. All the newer diesel tech, shiftable Allison Trans, but no fuel wasting DPF or DEF (fluid) costing more. Enjoy that truck, it's the best of all worlds 👌~
Do you offer consultation?
I have a Ram 1500 like yours. Is it enough to pull a heavy load of a dump trailer.
What is a heavy load for half ton?
Do you have a form of buisness insurance for hauling. Or is it just a hand shake type buisness deal?
i have a landscaping business its always just a handshake dont sighn contracts ever so theres no strings attatched
Do you need a license for this or special insurance?
Not in the state of Texas. However, if you wish to cover your trailor for potential damage, you might want to invest in insurance, unless you can make your own repairs.
Cool video😎what's the size of that dump trailer🤔
It’s 7x14, and rated for 14,000 lbs gvwr. Weighs about 4,000 empty.
@@RockyBottomAcres so between the truck and the dumpster/trailer itself do u need any license for legal purpose🤔im in Philadelphia, PA so it'll probably vary but im looking for something your size like a 14x7 dump trailer
hello what is the size of the trailer and how do you charge for your service im trying to figure out how should charge
With fuel prices been charging by the loaded mile, $5-$6 per loaded mile. There are occasionally times I drop below it a little if doing back to back and sometimes above if I’m hauling something like wood that has longer loading times.
I’ve considered getting two dump trailers. I own a construction company and we need 1 all the time. But the second would probably be leased out. The problem is I cannot get a CDL. I have to take methadone, only .8 mg for a neurological movement disease. Do you always need a CDL?
Under 26k, is more regulated by state. I do not believe a 14 or 16k dump trailer towed by a 250/2500 will need a CDL. That is my opinion, but I ran that setup with no CDL myself.
@@RockyBottomAcres As soon as the trailer you are towing is over 10,000 lbs and your are running a business you need a CDL
Do more research, that is not the case in VA. 100% fact. If what you’re saying is true every trailer with a skid loader towed behind a f250 or 2500, would need a CDL.. think about that. It’s once your combination is at or over 26,001, AND trailer is over 10,000, that you need a class A CDL.
Btw, I do have a class A cdl which I got after this video for bigger hauling. But 100% you do not need it for this setup. Now if the truck was a 3500 or 4500, there is a chance you would.
Do you need a cdl to do this? Anything else to be legal?
No CDL needed below 25,000 pounds in my state for example.
Hey bro should I buy AN 88 CHEVY DUMP TRUCK OR A NEWER 98 CHEVY REGULAR BOX TRUCK PLEASE ADVICE.. 💕
How would you be using it? Box trucks can make money but don’t dump, and will be expensive to convert it to a dump truck body.
Very nice video , i have a 2003 ford 150 5.4L v4 4x4 do you think i be capable of doing the same thing with a dump trailer or towing cars just for starting??? Im at Wisconsin
Check your towing capacity on the truck. Most dump trailers will weigh 3-4k empty. Make sure there is enough payload for the trailer + the cargo in the trailer. If I were to guess, you probably could only carry a few tons but check to be sure. Another option is an under CDL dumptruck.
Oh god no! Not with that 5.4, detonate that old turd 💩
You could do it for a while but you'd quickly wear out that truck doing so....its only rated for maybe 6-8k, a 14-16 foot dump trailer is going to weigh close to 4k empty, meaning you are only going to be able to haul 1-2 tons worth of materials in the trailer...and at that you are going to be max tow capacity with a 1/2 ton pickup...I wouldn't try it, way too much risk involved due to weights and being able to stop and maneuver quickly in an emergency.
I have the same 03 F250 with 5.4. I pull a 14ft 7 ton dump trailer fine. 12k towing is max, if I remember correctly. I don’t haul all the time or far. Get a single cylinder dump with a scissor hinge, not small twin cylinders.
I just realized you have a F150, in that case nope. Mine F250 is at maximum capacity. However, the new F150 have the same tow rating, HP and torque as my 20 year old F250.
I wish i have these in malaysia 🥺
How does gravel move in malaysia?
Hi I am planning to start this business with small budget. I am considering to buy used tundra. I would appreciate your thoughts on this type of truck?
Tundra might be a little limited. Maybe get a smaller dump trailer as I’m sure 3 tons or so would likely max a tundra towing (I could be wrong). Make sure to have a good brake controller on trailer.
With this stuff you need a 1 ton pickup or larger...that Tundra ain't gonna handle these types of loads very long.
You'll be rebuilding the tranny after a couple of years. Don't ask how I know this. 😬
How you got started with these haul??
A lot of different lead sources - I’ve used Craigslist with some success but not a lot, although it’s free. I get a couple leads a month there. Google PPC has been very beneficial to me. Also made a Google business listing in my area for gravel/dirt, that has worked well. And you can try Angie’s list / home advisor, people look there too. The best I have found so far is yard signs. I have a 6x12 sign hanging across two trees by the highway I live on. By far the most leads.
I have a 2019 dodge ram 1500 laramie
How much time do you dedicate to this per week?
I now have my brother or dad doing deliveries for me. My dad is retired. How much I do it depends on my work load and the time I have available (I have several things I do outside of this)
What size trailer are you using
7x14 rated for 14,000 gvwr. Weighs around 4,000 empty.
Do you need your cdl for this ?
Did I hear you correctly empty weight of 629? How is that possible?
6.29 tons 12,580 lbs. ~ 8,000 for the truck and about 4500 for the trailer. Yeah, sounds right to me. I did not replay video but that’s about right for empty
"Defend Equality" please explain.
Do you have a lcc or insurance?
Yep, of course. I run it under my farm llc which is just setup like a normal business llc and of course have commercial and liability insurance on all farm equipment, including the duramax .
I’m just confused about where you get the business. Do you just post ads online and wait for individual consumers to order deliveries or do you pick up contracts from the quarry’s themselves?
Did you find out
12:00 You state you leave the truck on so the battery doesn't go down and then you unplugged the truck from the trailer... wouldn't that disconnect the truck from the electrical on the trailer?
In that exact instance, no it was no charging. What I was meaning is that I leave it running between dumps and deliveries as to charge between trips. Like I never shut it off waiting at quarry, etc. I leave it run to charge up between drops. The duramax uses only abou .3 gallon to idle for an hour. So I leave it running to keep things charged if I’m doing like 3-5 back to back hauls
@@RockyBottomAcres aww ok, thank you! You have a sweet truck! I have the 1/2 ton version lol SLT not a Denali but close :D
Haha... Eatin a piece of pizza 😂
so you make 100 for one load????
So what do you do for dump trailer business insurance and general liability? Or you don’t have those and only running under an llc? Lawsuit can only take assets under the llc should something happen. Just want to know how you do it because I’m having a hell of a time finding insurance…..
Hi, I didn’t have any problem finding insurance. I have insurance on both the truck and the trailer, and an umbrella policy on the business for extra coverage. I did have to drop Statefarm because they couldn’t insurance it and went with a different provider that does more business stuff
@@RockyBottomAcres do you have a commercial insurance policy? Your set up, if used for money making (business) is required to carry a DOT number and a commercial insurance policy….. all trailers over 10k for business use, require DOT number. The insirance would need to cover anyone getting hurt on your trailer and coverage while in motion… the general liability is the hard part. Do you rent your trailer for dump use? Drop off and pickup later loaded?
@@RockyBottomAcres I’m about to just say f#@k it, grab business auto insurance, and file everything under an llc. It’s very hard to get insurance for dump trailer business. If I get sued, the llc is up for grabs and that it.
I’m not sure I agree about this, a lot of dot requirements vary state to state when under 26k but okay.
My policies are commercial…. :D
Where are you running your ads and how much are you charging for 5ton loads.
You can advertise in local yard sale groups, Craiglist, or Facebook ads. I live off a highway so I’ve made a pretty big billboard. Careful not to price your services too cheaply - there are significant expenses maintaining equipment. You should use $65/hr for your transport time at a minimum; or $4/mi from pickup to drop off location. If you go too cheap to make orders, you might quickly find yourself unable to pay yourself and afford the upkeep.
I’m charging rock price at quarry + delivery.
Did you get a cdl or is your gvwr under 26k?
Gvwr in this setup is 24,000. 10k truck + 14k trailer. But I do have a class A CDL now
@@RockyBottomAcres I've been looking hard into getting a little dump business started.. headed to CDL school first. My dually is rated for over 13k so any real trailer weight is going to put me over
Gas was $2.79 😢
Seems like gooseneck trailers have become less popular over the years.
Honestly because of the narrowness of the drive, I don’t think I would have made it in there with a gooseneck. I would have needed far more swing to keep the trailer tracked on pavement. I have a flatbed gooseneck for equipment and prefer it a lot more for sure.
I bought a trailer to do this and can’t find any work, got any tips? I post ads everywhere and I’m cheapest in town. Brand new trailer
What all types of material are you trying to haul?
Don’t be the cheapest guy around
Yes, there can be a negative vibe from being the cheapest, as if your service is worse even though it’s not.
@@youngchapo3513 I am by 10$ lol out of 2
Other people do not like I’m undercutting them by half
@@RockyBottomAcres anything