Calorie Counting Doesn't Work, Here's Why: Doctor Tim Spector
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- Опубликовано: 1 янв 2023
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Doctor Tim Spector OBE reveals why calorie counting does not work...
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📖 What if everything that you knew about health was wrong, if calories didn’t count and food labels lied? That is exactly what Tim Spector OBE says in his multiple books, innumerable articles and TV appearances.
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So his main point isn’t really about calories. He’s saying stop eating processed food and start consuming fresh, quality products - which is fair.
which likely will result in a calorie deficit lol
@@James_36 you are like this religious cult and you very like to say about science which you mostly don't understand.
@@jankowalski523 what lol
@@James_36 whatever argument there will be you always will say its calories.
How could you know that calories is the cause? Maybe calories deficit is effect of losing weight not the other way? It could be as somebdoy could say that you lose your potential energy from fat.
But still, how could you know that losing potential energy will cause lose of mass?
What if you gain 1g of mass and lose 1g of fat or the other way? What would you need for this? Calorie deficit or more?
What about particles with more energy and less mass than the others? How this relate to mass, energy relations for human weight? Well, it doesn't.
@@jankowalski523 because science has proven this over and over you are a fool if you think otherwise this idiot is just trying to sell you his garbage
What he is saying that some people react in a way to processed foods that they end up overeating calories… eating whole foods is helping you to stay in a calorie deficit by keeping your blood sugars in check.. also, these foods are naturally less calorie dense than junk.. that simple
Also whole foods tend to have more fibre which fills you up more resulting in less calories being consumed in the long run.
I counted calories during the summer of 2019, cut out sugar, processed foods, bread, etc... I lost 20lbs. We know it's not "all about the deficit". It's about the change. It works with the right knowledge
You cannot trick the laws of thermodynamics, a calorie deficit is the only thing that matters when your goal is to loose fat, period.
@@illunation how can people believe this sort of stuff? honestly it is mind boggling how someone who claims something stupid with no evidence what so ever gets traction. it is unreal.
@@James_36 i couldnt agree more with you...
@@illunation you clearly have no idea about thermodynamics.
What if some particle have same mass and different energy than the other? Or less mass and more energy? You could use particle A which mas more energy and less mass and build up particle B which had less energy and more mass.
So you lost energy and gained mass.
So tell me how those calories relate to weight?
It worked because you cut out glucose/carbs and frankenfoods, not because of calories
but what if you can be in a caloric deficit while eating whole foods and no processed-foods? would not that be the optimal scenario?
This is the main thing about this "Doctor" he thinks that everyone who count calories eat only burgers and mars bars. Counting calories and eating "good" foods or at least 80% of your calories come from that source is the way to go. Losing weight in most cases is such a simple process and jerks like him over-complicate it.
@@Stoian1992 🙌
My experience, whenever I eat all whole foods, I couldn't help but be in a calorie deficit.
@@Stoian1992 overcomplicate it? Our ancestors didn't have weight problem and they didn't have to count calories. They just eat food like all animals do. Only human who counts those have this problem with weight.
You cannot count how much of calories you use from food. Potential energy isn't the same as availble energy. You don't digest food this well - at least not plants because you digest meat almost fully. But still - digestion takes energy and nobody count this.
And calories as those numbers from calorimeter they are estimations also.
So you have no real idea about either calories which your food containt (from calorimeter stand point of view) or what is even more complicated problem - you have no idea how much of this energy willl you use.
@@jankowalski523 they were in constant Calorie deficits because starvation was a huge issue - this is so dumb
When I was 16 I had been obese for multiple years. I learned in chemistry class that a calorie is just energy and I knew that energy and mass are inherently related and so I searched how many calories were in a pound of fat. I used tools online to find my BMR and for my height searched what underweight and overweight would be, and I chose the number exactly between the two as my target goal. I calculated how many calories I'd have to eat over the course of a school summer to lose 30lb and every day during that summer I ate that exact number of calories. Sure enough, when school started back up I weighed EXACTLY 30lb less - my math worked out perfectly correct despite me expecting it to be off by a few pounds
Counting calories 100% works. Years later I got into body building and would cycle between cutting and bulking and used the same lesson over and over dozens of times to manage my weight. It works
You missed the point.
Wait, what? Mass and energy are related? You know what fructose and glucose are? They have the same weight and if you burn them in calorimetry they will give you different energy. Either your teacher was stupid to tell you that you you missed the point of lesson at school.
Either way, you aren't too good with physics or chemistry.
@@heed. he didn’t
@@James_36 The point of this video is 500cal from a Snickers bar are no where near the same as eating 4 apples despite having the same caloric value.
@@CaimAstraea no it isnt
I lost 20kgs counting calories. It’s quite obvious that using some form of quantifying how much food you eat will affect your weight. Whether or not it is 100% accurate is irrelevant.
I believe the message was more that calorie counts of food and energy expenditure isn't an exact science = a myth of what we commonly know and see as per nutritional information...and that what was commonly believed "a calorie is a calorie" is incorrect.
I'd give this man more credibility than anyone in the comment sections tbh
I did Mini cut -1000 Calories per day and it absolutely works….
That’s not mini 😅 I wish I could cut that much
How did you eliminated other potential factors as result for you weight lost? For example - did you check your insulin levels? Maybe this changed?
@@jankowalski523 idk bro but it worked Just try, there Are plenty other people where it works
It always will. The number of calories you consume, has to be less than what your body burns. Psychology and NEAT plays a massive part, but the equation doesn't change .
Body doesnt ”burn” anything. Even less so calories. Mass in, mass out. ☝️
Oh come on lol! Calorie counting isn’t a 100% accurate but it clearly works as most pro athlete and bodybuilders do it! Do it for a few months, learn roughly how many calories are in what food you eat then go from there.
My niece has recently lost 4.5 stones by counting calories and daily exercise. She has never been on a diet and has adjusted her diet to reduce meal portions and minimise junk food. She recognises these changes are life-long to sustain the weight loss. This example, along with significant scientific evidence completely contradicts what Tim is saying!
@@carriefloss9937 Yeah I lost a couple of stone too using calorie counting and was surprised how easy it was for me to stick to.
I don’t do it anymore as I learnt in those few months what I can eat and how much of it I can eat.
Calorie counting is a good learning tool and promotes discipline. For me anyway, everyone’s different I guess.
I think you completely missed the point. It’s not that you can’t lose or maintain weight by calculating calories, it’s that the calorie source you choose completely changes the way your body works. From energy levels to hunger and appetite and yes also to your bodies metabolistic expenditure of calories. Conventional wisdom says two packs of Oreo’s have the same calories as a plate of homemade sweet and sour chicken wings, so if I limit myself to one or the other per day I should be fine. But this is a lie. If you completely left out the Oreo’s and only ate the fresh chicken dish you metabolism would be working better, you’d have more energy and natural move and think more, you’d have less hunger and appetite to the point where you could eat whenever and wouldn’t have to count. If you compare these to choices it may very well be that your eating close to two plates of chicken wings per day without even noticing and still achieving the same or better results than your crappy Oreo diet with significantly less calories. Calorie counting completely neglects this idea of your bodies biological adaptation to the source of the calories. It is at best misleading. Yes it does work, but it also has the potential to put you in a much worse predisposition to start with. Why crawl when you could walk.
@@carriefloss9937 Yh, now tell her to get to 10 percent body fat or less and then maintain that whilst also 'counting calories'.
Calories may work ar first, but will stop at some point.
The body's metabolism will adapt to a point where it slows down enough that it burns fewer calories or the same as what your niece is consuming.
Otherwise, a person should theoretically lower calories until they can weigh absolutely nothing? The body doesn't quite work that way
@@Rudebo he didnt miss the point, he literally said it right at the start, you are the ones twisting it to mean something else
I stopped calorie counting after watching Tim Spectors podcast and started eating more naturally, ie cutting out allot of processed foods. I put on weight but actually my clothing fits better and I'm happier, I sleep better. Calorie deficits make me frustrated, tired and at some point I will give up, lower calorie options are full of junk
Typical “make an outlandish claim and watch the clicks come in” tactics. I’ve lost 15 kg in 4.5 months by calorie counting. Before that, I didn’t even know anything about calories and I only lost half a kg in a similar amount of time. It doesn’t need to be accurate down to the letter. It’s just a great way to let yourself know what you’re putting in your body. Like the fact that some small snacks have the same number of calories as some entire meals that I was having. I don’t plan on counting calories forever, just a few months of doing it has opened my eyes as to what foods to avoid or have less of.
You were counted calories but how do you know this was the reason of your lost? Did you for example checked your insulin levels? Maybe this was a reason?
You probably didn't measure it so don't say what was the reason. This was only correlation.
@@jankowalski523 Calorie counting works 100% of the time when done right. No exceptions.
@@dangallagher6176 oh yes, best excuse for something doesnt work is that lerson doesnt do it right. Like with socialism - people say it works, it just wasn't applied properly, good excuse.
How can you do it properly then? How can you count how much calories you can absorb from specific food properly? Do you measure calories of your poop in calorimeter? What about energy needed for digestion? There are so many variables - how could you include all of them?
@@jankowalski523 I'm glad you asked. Because calories in food labels are derived via the Atwater system that approximates the metabolisable energy in the food based on its macronutrient content. They already did the dirty work of measuring the actual calorie content of nutrients, as well as measuring that which was not metabolised (feel free to google it).
Practically every study that compares different diets whilst equating calorie content sees no difference in weight loss between groups. Including comparisons between low insulin and high insulin groups, so your hypothesis that insulin was a causal factor doesn't hold up.
Bodybuilders use CICO to consistently and reliably manipulate their body fat .
There are also studies that find people who did not lose weight whilst calorie counting were actually just underestimating their calorie intake.
In terms of nutrition, you can think of calories as the energy your body metabolizes vs the energy it expends, thanks to the Atwater system
@@dangallagher6176 likeyou said - approximates. Evry protein is different and will give you other amount of energy in calorimeter. Every protein will be metabolised slighty different. You could metabolise some proteins and other exact same proteins you will poo without digestion. Some proteints you could digest partially. Of course same could be say about carbohydrates and fat.
So how could you measure all those different particles?
And how could you measure what your body did with them? Do you measure calories of your poo?
Did you measure how much CO2 you make during the day? Breathing make you lose carbon. Do you measure your farts also?
How could you measure if you gained fat or muscles?
So you want to say that you read every study? I could bet you didn't even read one fully.
Bodybuilders also used steroids - whats your point?
Oh yes, allways people are guilty not the method. There are a lot of data of people who ate very small and didn't lost fat. And you can't undereat all the time as you will die from hunger at one point. If there are inhibotrs of biochemical reaction than this reaction cannot occur. If you don't believe me than ask any biochemists what inhibitors does.
And when you'll get this knowledge then check how insulin works regardin fact cells. Biochemistry knowledge isn't hard to find, just read any book about biochemistry.
Of course being in a calorie deficit will help you lose fat. Yes, you may be hungry, but you're asking your body to use it's own stores for energy! Of course it's going to let you know about it.
Consistently and regularly eat nutrient dense food with a low energy density, whilst staying under a given caloric target. That's it.
What if you use particle A from your body which would have less energy and more mass and built up particle B which would have more energy and less mass? According to energy you would lose it but you would gain mass. What about this?
How conservation of energy relates with conservation of mass?
What a load of bullcrap. Counting calories _works_. It's that simple.
I'm lean. I don't give a fuck about losing weight. I just want to be in good health, and I wonder if intermittent fasting works for slim people.
What does Dr Tim Specter think of HUEL?
Interesting...I have been counting calories and maintaining a caloric deficit for 4 months and down 36 pounds, so it seems like it works pretty well.
Also, the overwhelming majority of science says that a calorie deficit is explicitly responsible for weight loss.
Correlation doesn’t equate to causation. You might have changed what you eat in order to reduce the calories, and then it would be the new food you are eating that is causing the weight loss, and not ther reduction in amount of calories. Another person might also reduce their caloric intake but find that they are not losing weight. This would then be due to that person eating the same bad food, even though calories are reduced.
There is ample evidence that it is the mass of food (weight), instead of calories (energy) that determines our body’s response to intake.
He didn't debunk the calorie deficit theory. What he did was debunking the method for counting calories, but not the general principle that says you need to eat less than you burn to lose fat.
He said that ultra-processed food should be avoided.
So true! I don't diet and focus more on eating wholesome foods. Never needed to go on a weight-loss diet and have maintained a consistent weight range throughout my life. Thanks for sharing this!
I'd like him to debate hany rambod on how to get someone into shape 😂
It’s his view only - significant scientific evidence suggests that a reduction in calories and regular exercise contributes to weight loss and long-term health benefits
@@AFndjdj7373 There is a video of Tim Spektor eats in a day. If you watch. - It's like 1800 calories if that.
@@AFndjdj7373hahahahhaha grow a brain
@@AFndjdj7373 says the guy neglecting science and the truth in order to justify his failures. Keep coping.
@@AFndjdj7373 what causes the eventual weight gain isn’t the calorie restricted diet. If you’re eating at a deficit, you will not gain weight unless you’re already at a very low body fat percentage and your muscle building offsets the fat loss, or you’re at a very low body fat perfentage and not hydrating properly so you’re retaining water. That’s why you need to have a brain before reading clinical studies. Imagine that your goal is to weigh 150lb, and you are actually weighing 300lb. Imagine that in order for you to lose .5-2lb per week you need to eat 3000 calories. Eventually 3000 calories will become your maintenance calories, and if your metabolism slows down because your food choices are not optimal and you don’t exercise and you dont drink enough water, 3000 calories will become a surplus. But if instead once you hit a plateau with 3000 cals, you modify your diet and create a new deficit, you will keep losing weight. Btw people should stop chasing certain weights. They should only chase body fat percentages. Everyone should be at an optimal body fat percentage (one that reduces health risks, and one that enables you to keep building muscle and strength). That’s very easy to do if you PROPERLY track calories and macronutrients.
@@AFndjdj7373 based on what evidence? people gain weight because they dont stick to their deficit - fact
The problem with these guys is they always need to say something shocking to sell their book. Of course it's fair to say that just counting calories for a finite period of time doesn't help, because you a) stop at some point and go back to the diet that got you fat in the first place and b) will find it brutally hard to sustain if you're eating mostly unwholesome processed crap. But he is clearly aware in most of his advice that you fundamentally need an energy deficit to lose weight, because no amount of fancy biology will defy basic physics. What he should be saying is that wholefoods make calorie deficits much easier to achieve, and conveniently also contain a range of healthy micronutrients. But then "eat some damn vegetables" is probably an unhelpfully brief summary when you want to sell things.
hes just another online scammer, absolute rampant these grifters are
You cannot count calories in - the same about calories out. Why? Because our body don't digest food fully - not all at least. The other reason - we waste some energy for digesting. And how would you count this effect> You won't as you have no idea how to do this. Nobody have its too complicated.
And another thing: mass doesnt relate to energy. You can lose energy and gain mass or vice versa - according to physics.
Works for me
This is kind of a strawman argument though, very few people who advocate for calorie counting say that is the ONLY thing you should do - we know that not all calories are equal, that certain types of food are more satiating and others are less satiating, with ultra-processed foods largely falling into the latter camp. It is perfectly possible to track both quantity and quality simultaneously, and the fact remains that maintaining a calorie deficit is precisely what one should do if one wants to lose weight-and making sure that those calories are coming from nutritious, less-processed foods is how one can maintain that weight loss.
You cannot count calories in and you cannot count calories out. This is impossible.
Mass doesnt relate to energy also. You could use particle from your body whiuch have less mass and more energy and build up new particle with more mass and less energy. This would gibve you less energy and more mass.
This is very simple.
Please get Eddie Abbew!
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Agreed I am updating my own knowledge'. One size doesn't fit all. What's good for the goose is bad for the bat. Lol😂
What most people need to realise, is that calorie counting itself isn't the process, it's a tool OF the process. Being in a caloric deficit is what you need to do to lose bodyfat, but calorie counting is purely just a tool to assure that your in that deficit.
Same goes as bring In a surplus. Calorie counting is just a tool to make sure you're eat more than your maintenance.
Being calorie defici is unhealthy, it isn't needed and you cannot even count this.
And from physics/chemistsry stand point o view: you can lose mass and gain energy or vice versa. For example glucose and fructose weight the same but if you burn them in calorimeter you'll gain different level of energy.
So how calorie deficit would ensure lose weight? According to what studies? Who measured metabolism of human who loses weight?
THere are people who cahnged diet, started eat more and lose weight. There are plenty of people who do this. IF you eat less your metabolism slown down so you'll use less calories then before.
@@jankowalski523 Being in a caloric deficit is healthy if you are overweight. What on earth are you talking about?
@@Ibanezguy2007 do you know what calorie deficit is?
Its mean that you eat not enough so your body won't work properly. What can body do to adapt to such situation? Easy - use less, so its slowing metabolism and of course it decrease its muscle mass.
So on calorie deficit you will lose muscles and you'll have less energy to do anything.
Just because the method is not something that people enjoy it doesn’t mean that the law of thermodynamics is not real, how bizarre to think this way, this huy might be super smsrt and all but this is BS……
It’s not good spending your life calorie counting. He’s right it’s quality of food.
If you eat quality food in a surplus, you will gain weight, dummy
I don’t count calories and I’m down 100lbs. Carnivore is life.
That’s because eating just meat will result in calorie deficit
@@James_36 that’s fine. It works
hmmm... listening carefully to what he's saying and his main point is some studies show we react differently to different meals with the same calorie count. So one might make you feel hungrier than another later on. He does not say, however, say what does work for losing weight, does he? He says to eat healthy food (we know that) but you can't just eat heaps of healthy food, can you? None the wiser really.
he is talking rubbish, absolute nonsense
@@James_36 you are talking rubbish absolute nonsense.
If somebody have for example lactose intolerance so he has proiblem with creating enzyme lactase than this person won't digest lactose or will onkly digest it a little. So if he ate 500 kcal from lactose for example this would mean nothing to this person as energy source.
So shut up.
Rubbish talk that brings Mr. Spector a lot of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not all calories are the same. eat the food of the gods, then you shall thrive. eat the food of the losers, then so you will lose. simple logic.
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So much BS talk
Count chemicals not calories