Don't keep your vinyl records sealed!
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2022
- Collectors like to keep new vinyl records sealed, because that way they have the highest resale value. But if the shrink wrap is too tight, leaving it sealed for a long period of time can end up causing the record inside to become warped so much that it is unplayable, especially if the record has been exposed to heat or direct sunlight. The plastic sleeve in some LPs can also outgas over time, depositing a film on the vinyl that is impossible to remove. You don't need to remove the shrink wrap entirely, but at least slit it open at the side to relieve the pressure on the jacket and allow any outgassing to escape.
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0:45 “that’s about as straight as I am” lol
Yeah that comment gave me a good chuckle 😆
he caught me off guard with this one 💀
i screeched at that
Iconic moment if you ask me
that line caught me so off guard. one of the only times ive chuckled at a youtube video lol
"Even though their music is so repetitive that you can barely tell the difference" oh my lord someone finally said it
“Even though their music is so repetitive you can hardly tell the difference”
the absolute SHADE!!!
“Hey, it’s not skipping … even though their music is so repetitive that you can barely tell the difference.” 🤣🤣🤣 Savage!
I’m surprised that the thrift store didn’t just toss that record out and I’m even more surprised they were asking $9.99 for it.
Yup! Just a little refund maybe?
@@MSMediaRotterdam In one store here I saw a fluorescent lamp on the discount shelf at the till, with a "reduced" sticker on it due to it being "shop soiled" .. quite obviously broken as you could see that through the window in its box. Muppetry at its best.
At least in _this_ case it's likely recoverable. ☺
Thrift stores will put ridiculous prices on anything that they think might possibly be worth something, regardless if it actually is or not. So yeah, a vinyl in shrink is something that looks "valuable" to someone that doesn't know any better.
@@Arjay82 If only people knew their business.....
I’m not a fan of Fall Out Boy either, but throwing it out would be a bit much.
Wait… so my habit of opening sealed things may actually be helping to preserve it?
I remember seeing imploding boxes of software on the shelf when they were BRAND NEW. The last NOS vinyl record I opened (Depeche Mode - Some Great Reward) was sealed for about 20 years and didn't have this problem. It really depends on the shrink wrap. I guess Sire Records did a decent job during the final years of mass market vinyl.
great reward for you indeed!
I've bought a lot of old 12" singles and some battle records/scratch tools that have been sealed for a couple decades and they were fine too. I don't remember having a record where I noticed the shrink was warping it tho. Maybe I'll pay more attention to that now
Funny enough, my Sire re-release of Remain in Light didn't even come shrink wrapped, it was in a loose plastic wrap with a perforations for an easy tear. Nice purchase btw I love SGR.
I bought a copy of Big Bam Boom by Hall and Oates sealed; Not warped in the slightest, just very dusty for some reason
I totally agree. I never bought or even seen in person vintage big box software, but the moment Robin mentioned it I immediately had memories of collapsing shrink-wrapped cardboard packages.They were probably the flimsiest, toilet paper-tier boxes, but evidently over time plastic beats any type of cardboard.
0:45 got a laugh out of me, lol. thanks for another great video ❤
It got a good chuckle out of me, too 😂
"That's about as straight as I am"
Amen brother
4:53 to 5:21 sounds like some awesome dj mixes waiting to happen
Playing with the tone arm raised was oddly satisfying.
As a vinyl collector myself, it is never a good idea to leave records sealed for too long because you'll never know what's its condition beneath the album jacket/sleeve. It may have slight warp regardless if its jacket is straight flat, like what if it's a bad pressing? You have a point VWestlife! Also, the method of using books to flatten a warped record is not effective for me. I think you should make a video about it Kevin, if the "2 glass and oven trick method" works or if it is effective, that would be an interesting experiement to do. Thank you for the video!
That experiment does not work. It makes the record flat but the music information is basically ruined.
@@realmackle yeah. that's what a record store owner told me, so i make as a rule that i will no longer buy a warped record not unless it was given to me for free.
@@realmackle I agree with that; if a record is not perfectly flat the groove pitch is distorted and the only way to recover from that would be to apply heat and pressure evenly throughout the thickness of the vinyl, i.e.decreasing pressure gradient from the "pit" of the groove to the outer surface. Otherwise if you just apply pressure to the surface of the record, it wil just squash the top (land?) of the groove.
So does it have to do with the shrink wrap or just that it was left outside in the sun? I doubt that extremely flimsy shrink wrap could put enough pressure on cardboard or vinyl to bend it….
I've bought a few lps from the sixties advertised as mint that came sealed. Even with the older plastics, stiffer cardboard and thicker vinyl, they had slight warps from the shrinkage.
As long as the warps weren't too bad, I bet they sounded great!
They were likely warped from poor storage not the shrink wrap.
i have seen this as well however its always great when you find a perfect condition sealed record, i find it fascinating to open something that has not been open for over 50 years
@@floydnut5908 Always stick your nose in there right after you open it. 50 year old sealed vinyl aroma.....aaggghhhhhhh!
Even though I personally have never bothered to keep any of my records sealed for any reason, this video actually gives me an excellent reason why… thanks again!!!
0:41 I BURSTED OUT LAUGHING WITH THE "What's the catch? Well here is the catch...ouch"
An excellent message for collectors! Unwrap the records and enjoy them! (I do keep the hype stickers, though!) A few salient anecdotes in book form-- I got the Run Out Groove 2-disc version of The Monkees' debut lp that had about half that bad of a warp right out of the package. Rhino/Warner replaced it with no problems but, when I checked the original discs again after a month or so, the warp had settled out. I've heard of this phenomenon with newer vinyl formulation as being a sort of plastic "memory" where the disc eventually returns to its original shape. Older lp's from the 70's/80's tend to not fare as well. Beware gatefold covers left in shrink, as the insides may stick together, damaging the artwork if left too long. Also, not just for quality reasons, beware of any second-hand picture discs that go for ridiculously low prices, even rare ones. Those are more prone to warp by design and collectors will cherry pick the best of several and unload the rest that are damaged. Collecting records can be fun and can truly suck at the same time.
I hate people who just leave things in the shrink wrap on a shelf to rot. These were meant to be played and used and yet people don't do that.
This record is about as straight as I am. Priceless :-)
I watched this video yesterday and this morning I was in a record store and checked if I could see any sealed warped records. I couldn't tell if any of the vinyls were warped, but there were some sealed CDs in the used section that had their digipak completely bent out of shape. And they were clearly pulling to one side because of the shrink wrap.
Sad. We must break the fanboy mentality the 90's did to us.
I'm so glad I opened my copy to play it when I did. they're my favorite band so it's sad to see this happen
"it's about as straight as I am"
Love this channel so much
Looking forward tot he future follow up video.
“Even though their music is so repetitive, you can barely tell the difference” LOL - some great gags in this video and equally as informative. Great work!
Had a good few chuckles, thanks.
I never wanted to open my vinyls but this video scared me so I opened em today. Thanks for this vid
Technology Connections is pretty good with the jokes. Both of you guys make great content. Always looking forward to the next video!
Man as a person who loves keeping stuff in it's original shrink wrap this is good to know!!!!!
4:57 that one sounded like a Daft Punk sample.
I finally understand the "broken record" phrase
I've had good results putting a warped record between two pieces of heavy glass left out in the sun.
Depending on how warm it is outside, it doesn't take too long and the record retains its shape.
Great video!👍🇺🇸
good idea. most people would be surprised how hot direct sunlight can get. for example i used to have a outdoor job far away from society and we would cook our ramen noodles in a ziplock bag out in the sun.
You can do the same thing in a low oven.
You’ve never had good results doing that because it doesn’t work
They called me a crazy for removing the shrinkwrap of things I buy for myself
This will teach videogame scalper some lessons.
0:45 LOL caught me off guard XD
"That's about as straight as I am"
LMAO!
That is a great subject! I have some records still sealed.
Hey VWestlife, it's been more than a year since the record has been pressed by a stack of books. I would like to see an update video about the record
Thanks for reminding me to unwrap the vinyl record I got from my birthday last year
as soon as I saw that fall out boy record parabola, I got up in a cold sweat and ran over to my protomen records in a panic. thanks for the heads up.
5:50 throwing shade
Patiently awaiting the results of the book test...
At a 1980s HiFi show I recall Dual playing records looking like this to demonstrate how good the tracking was on their turntables.
"About as straight as I am!!" LMAO... Love people with a great sense of humour!!! Too bad that we live oceans apart!! Love your videos and the personality that you display in them!!!! Cheers.
0:45 “That’s about as straight as I am”
Same.
It's been about a year now. Is it any better?
And I thought "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark" was a repetitive song even on a normal record. I think I'm going to have "Light 'em up, up, up..." stuck in my head until Christmas now...
Anyway, I can't wait for you to come back in the future to see how well those books helped flatten out that shrinky-dink-wrapped record. Thanks for the memories, even though they weren't so great...
Shrink wrap needs a tremendous amount of heat to shrink. It doesn’t just shrink at room temperature. I think what you’re seeing is the warped record warping the shrink wrap, not the other way around.
0:43 I was not expecting that joke. Lol.
It's been a year. How's the record doing?
He probably tossed it out a year ago…
I've noticed this in old Atari and intellivsion games etc thanks for bringing it up and justifying me preferring to open anything I get unopened
I still have sealed records from the 60s and 70s never had a problem with warping. I bought a pair of john and yoko nude albums in 2017 from a hippie shop opened one to check numbers. I store all records upright never store flat. Keep in the house or temperature controlled storage.
I personally like CDs. All the fun spiny action without all of the skipping, popping, warping, cartridge replacements, damage, and pain. 😂
I got scared at first, but then saw the description say slitting it open at the side will help prevent this, which is what I do. That's what my grandpa did with his non-gatefold records, he kept the wrapping on but still opened it at the side, and it's what I now do after discovering it. I always make sure the shrink wrap is pretty loose as well.
This is unnecessary because properly shrink-wrapped LPs from the factories have small breather holes in them to prevent such issues. If the shrink does not have such holes then it is very likely that they were re-sealed at some point by an amateur.
or just completely unwrap them, take the record and play the damn thing
@@growskull I do play them -_-
All my records get played all the time, just on non-gatefolds I still have the plastic on, so they get some protection from fingerprints and dust and whatever else might come their way. You can still take the record out and play it.
I like keeping my stuff in good condition as long as possible.
@@allen-rp3gm It might not be necessary to do but it's how I like it.
@@growskull Real ballers have 2 copies, one to play and one to admire all pristine and unopened!
For a while I've been saying we oughta get rid of shrink wrap for records. Aside from the warping, I can think of a few times I've accidentally damaged a record sleve in wrestling off some particularly stubborn shrink wrap.
Polystyrene shrinks when it decomposes. You can even sometimes find polystyrene foam packaging that looks shriveled up.
"More straighter than me" 💀💀💀
Thanks for the heads up! I bought duplicates of all the Barenaked Ladies 25th anniversary pressings a few years back. I kept the extras sealed but just broke the seals on them after seeing this. Luckily after 3 years of being sealed they are still fine but don't want to take any chances. I'm gonna play them at some point anyway!
for me, as a record collector, that was the best tip i got for storing my treasures. Many Thanks
What you need is a birds beak. The Flintstones records were just as warped as that but their players employed (or enslaved) talking birds to act as the stylus.
I can recommend an oystercatcher, they are a wading bird found on freshwater and seawater margins and on drier ground inland, including pastures. Nice solid sharp beak. YRMV.
"Even though their music is so repetitive you can hardly tell the difference" -- vwestlife on fire in this video
"thats about as straight as i am" realest shit i ever did hear
I remember this warning back in the 80s. Good vid.
What a wonderful surprise! 😀
Of course, this video gets my full approval, and while outgassing isn't an issue for software collectibles, it most certainly is for vinyl. Excellent work.
#UnexpectedJim was my second favorite part of this video, just after the "as straight as I am" comment that made me laugh out loud.
Speaking of... You do great tests, you should try some risky record straightening methods on some old junk records.
I don't know about you, but I think that warping improved this record.
4:55-5:01 is the best French Touch/Nu Disco song I've heard in recent times. That's a 7 minute loop waiting to happen.
A good test to check a sealed record for warping is to hold the sleeve vertically, then gently shake the sleeve from left to right. You should be able to feel the record sliding back and forth in the 1/4 inch of play inside the sleeve.
So this is why we get scratched records from the physical stores? Yes, even polylined inners can create scratches because of this.
@@rabarebra Give me a break. I guess you never actually take your records out of the jacket when you get them, and of course being shipped half way around the world doesn't shake them at all, while one shake 1/4 inch in each direction is going to destroy them. Sheesh.
@@gotham61 Why do you go around and shake records at the stores? NO you wrong. I take them out, and play them. Mo--ron.
@@gotham61 Almost all records sold in stores have some kind of problem with them. Either from mo--ron's like you, or they are either warped and extremely dirty from factory. Oh, I've had many scratched records straight out of the shrink-warp.
You play so tough don't you, with your fcking assumptions. 🤜
Clown 🤡
@@rabarebra Well you can relax from your neuroticism, because at this point I’m my life I almost never buy new sealed records in a brick and mortar record store. I can also report that pretty much none of the 12,000+ records I have bought over the last 50 years suffered as a result of my checking for warpage. If you came across a record I put back due to apparent warpage, you wouldn’t have wanted it either.
a vinyl record left sealed and never played will become a sad vinyl record
"that's about as straight as i am"
Got a good chuckle out of that, thanks a lot!
4:56 sounds like the record got possessed by Micheal Jackson
A year or so ago, I purchased some Nintendo Switch titles from Limited Run Games despite not owning a Switch. When they finally showed up, I immediately removed the film wrap and opened the case, thus quote-unquote "devaluing' them by hundreds of dollars. I didn't buy them for the resale value, I bought them so I can play those games when I finally do get a Switch, and not have to worry about disc space. Besides, where else was I to store the trading cards?
9:35 , there is a device i came across on youtube called Record Pi,it bakes a record in a bag for a few hours and the record will be back to normal,and it's the smartest and easiest way to flatten a record,but it costs 350 bucks and because of the reviews,and how it worked in the videos,i think it's worth your money,i saw that there is a sale to make it cheaper,but record ology said that heating pvc releases toxic gas, so you will need ventilation when you're doing that.
"Thats about as straight as I am" Killed me
So I guess doing it my way - slitting open, playing, stuffing back and keeping it that way is perfectly safe? Also thanks a lot! I really needed to know the name to that remarkable and unique sound! Heard it once at a friend and never got to know who it was. Great!
“That’s about as straight as I am”
10/10
VG++ Still Sealed!!
Went to Walmart this a.m. for the 1st time in years.
I couldn't believe I saw Beatles and Stones albums next to some record players.
So weird. Ironically the Walmart location used to be a GeeBee's department store back in the 70's........which sold albums and tape recorders. It was like Kmart.
Just so weird seeing that this morning!
A lesson to everyone here, records were meant to be played, not stuck on a shelf left in their wrapper for years on end...
5:44 5:50 absolutely iconic burn lmao
The jokes in this video had me absolutely floored! Always great to see an educational video that is also wildly entertaining
Looking forward to watching the follow up video a year from now :)
0:43 "about as straight as I am" made me spit out my cocoa from laughter
"That's about as straight as I am ". 😂 I didn't expect that line. Rock on!
when he said "I'm not gonna try to play this on my good turntables" and pulled out my record player I crumbled
Dude I've been watching you for literal YEARS. So happy to still see you kicking it.
"That's as straight as I am" 🤣 Rock on, vwestlife!!!
0:46 best coming out I heard in my life 😂
So yeah… as a few others have pointed out, the warp seen in the video is absolutely not from remaining sealed in shrink. I spy a visible crease on the back of the jacket. I would bet dollars to donuts that this record was mishandled. What you’re seeing in the video resembles a mail order record that was abused by the USPS. I’ve been ordering records online for about 15 years and this is a pretty common outcome when the sender fails to mark the parcel as Fragile, and it goes through the wringer before reaching your doorstep.
To add to it I’ll say that I have several records that have been kept sealed for 10 or more years. A fee from the 90s as well. Zero warping. I do encourage everyone to enjoy their vinyl purchases and 90% of the time, that means playing the music on them. In some instances I do think specific collectors may derive enjoyment from owning a select record in a sealed condition… and if that’s their MO, and what they desire to spend money on, then power to ‘em.
I would confidently say that shrink wrap was not the culprit of the damage seen on the record in this video though.
That record weight worked wonders 🤣
"That's about as straight as I am" absolutely buckled me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha! ”Thats about as straight as I am” 😂😂 laughed out loud for real!
Back in the 70's I made the mistake of leaving a record in the back of my VW beetle. The tip I received was to leave it in it's sleeve and place a large pot of hot (BOILING hot!) water on top of it.
Didn't work! 😢
gotta love when a record makes its own loops
That loop at 4:55 is actually pretty catchy.
I a radio DJ friend.. use the bain-marie method for this..... a oven flat baking sheet full of water.... submerge 2 thick towels so the vinyl don't make contact with the metal and have a nice layer of water under it.. carefully flatten the towels against the baking sheet (Obviously the towels should not have any design or sewing).. sumerge the vinyl against the towels... other towel over the vinyl... and finally another flat baking sheet.. or a aluminum turntable over it.... add weight if is necessary... to keep everything under the water level....... tray goes to the middle of the oven..... low heat..... just enough for make the water inside the tray boils slowly........ add a water when the level decrease... just like in any other bain-marie method cooking........ 2 hours lather ... remove the tray from the oven... Let it cool inside the water .. until everything is back to room temperature.... and the vinyl should be now as flat as the baking sheet....
Upon seeing the first minute, i _immediately_ grabbed the four records i own (including my precious _Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge_ that was gifted to me) and removed all the plastic wrap from them!
I would've done it sooner but i gotta get a proper record player first
@0:46 LOL that cracked me up
Oh damn! I've had a couple of records sitting in their shrink wrap for like almost a decade! I was waiting till I could afford to buy a nice record player to break them out, but never managed to find that round toit so they've just been sitting in a pile on top of my cupboard. I've now taken your advice and released them from their clinging prison. Thankfully the worst has no more than a couple of millimetres of warp at most, so my 2-LP edition of Superunknown thanks you.
All of the record releases of Superunknown are 2 LP. I just hope it wasn’t an original copy that you opened.
Also, storing them stacked has much more potential to damage your records than keeping them stored upright and sealed.
I've got sealed records from the seventies which are just fine. This one must have been left near a heat source or someone had it with them in the sauna.
That's amazing it plays
sounds fine