Weeds ….just out of curiosity Nancy botwin and the gang numbers break down of how much they’re worth at the end of the season I’d find that super interesting but probably pretty hard to do
In the episode where Hank escorted Tilly and her friends to that figurine convention, Hank stated that Tilly would often space out on her figurines and ignore whatever Cotton was doing to Hank,!so she was probably very neglectful
Regarding "Tilly is a bad parent" - "Escape from Party Island" established that Tilly would focus on her collection of glass miniatures as a psychological escape from Cotton's verbal abuse. The same episode establishes that Hank hates miniatures, in part because of how Tilly's collection seems to affect her mental state. It's probably not a stretch to assume that, if Cotton turned his ire to young Hank, Tilly would have probably done the same: ignore her child and focus on her collection. Hank's hatred of miniatures might also stem from having to face Cotton without her protection, abandoned in favor of her glass menagerie.
I read an interesting theory about why Hank cried over his truck finally going out. Hank in his adulthood got really attached to his truck because it was very reliable and dependable, unlike Cotton and Tilly. It finally dying made Hank break down in tears because his truck was unreliable now too, like his parents.
Maybe not in such a specific way, but yeah a lot of the behaviors he shows have to do with his terrible parents. It shapes you, and you'll always see yourself doing something because of the trauma
Ngl I cried on that episode and I was only like 8 or 9. I guess I would say it was just symbolic to new beginnings and sometimes letting go of the wheel. Hank was persistent about getting his truck fixed in that episode while a confident truck salesman hassles him about getting rid of the truck and buy a new one which would later be Hank’s fate they even sprinkled in flashbacks some from the casts past and some familiar. Bit of a full circle all in one episode.
Yeah I'm gonna agree with @0hn0haha . I bought my 1992 Corvette when I was 17 and I've come to tears a few times with breakdowns thinking I would have to sell the car. Thankfully I still have it running strong after 8 years.
My theory on cottons character was that he's lost so many people, that he decided he didn't want anyone to miss him when he died so he wanted to make sure everyone hated him. Peggy saying that was the final thing he needed to know nobody was going to miss him, so she technically gave him the peace he wanted.
Cotton definitely killed at least a few men. There is an episode where Cotton, Hank, Bill, Dale, and Boomhaur go to a sweat lodge. They have visions as a result, with Cotton's being a PTSD induced hallucination where he's confronted with the dead corpses of the men he killed come back.
The black and white pencil sketch animation was Mike Judge literally animating his pitch for the show for the studio. He wanted Hank to introduce the show to the studio instead of himself Mike Judge doing it which is absolutely brilliant and very original especially for pitching a show and it absolutely work and it’s a fantastic show
I remember that Boomhauer admits to dying his hair at some point in the series, so the "Bobby is also blonde" thing holds absolutely no water whatsoever
It's shown in many episodes where they have flashbacks of their childhood that Boomhauer is still blonde. It's more likely that he is dyeing his hair to hide greys, due to his age.
The final theory that Peggy killed Cotton, I can't remember if Peggy knew if Cotton could voluntarily start and stop his heart or not, but I could 1000% see Peggy using that to kill him, and I can 10000% see Cotton being petty enough against Peggy to kill himself just to spite her.
He did. Just because she said she hoped he'd live forever he never wanted to do what she said so just to be defiant he just went on and died. I mean, just look at how he lit up and how gleeful he was when she said that...
@@maenad1231 yeah considering Bobby looks more like Cotton than he does Hank (and Hank looks like his mother, but then again....why does Hank's Japanese brother look like Hank's mother as well, and oh btw Cotton claimed the narrow urethra came from Hank's mother's side....yeah after Returning Japanese part 2....Cotton lied about yet another thing)
Actually Boomhauer generally follows the law, in the episode order of the strait arrow, he specifically tells the game warden about the Whooping crane for example.
Or when he tells the fire Marshall that it was Dale who was responsible for burning the firehouse down and that they should all be ashamed for placing the blame on a dead man.
Not to mention if you consider all the s*** they've gotten away with over the years it would make sense if one of them had connections to law enforcement.
My two favorite theories on Dale: I've always really liked the theory that Dale knows all about Nancy's affair but is getting revenge on John Redcorn by making Redcorn watch helplessly as Dale raises Joseph and is loved by Joseph in return. John Redcorn will always be just that random family friend that Joseph only vaguely knows, and that KILLS Redcorn. Now, as for Dale's revenge on Nancy, I don't believe there is any. Dale does genuinely love his wife and worships the ground she walks on. I think Dale also knows that he is hard to live with, and while that doesn't excuse Nancy cheating, Dale is aware that he's too weird to do any better than Nancy and too unhinged to handle a divorce. I do not, however, think that Joseph knows the truth. I don't think a young teenage boy would be able to react so calmly to being told that his father isn't his father. That's devastating. My second theory: I believe Dale actually benefited from being accidentally admitted to the psychiatric hospital with Boomhauer and Bill, and maybe even continued to take his psychiatric medication. He didn't seem opposed to taking them, even when they got to leave the hospital, and he seems a bit more well-versed and wise regarding mental health after that episode. Idk, just my headcannon!
Don't forget that Dale had Joseph believing he was the son of an alien. Hell, Joseph ran away to go to the ?marman? Lights to be picked up by his alien dad.
8:03 I always thought Dale's "Shi-Sha" was him trying to have his own music drop like he is in a spy movie. That he was particularly trying to sound like a copyright free version of "Oh Yeah" from "Ferris Bueler's Day Off". The "Shi-Sha" even sounds like the last few beats of the chorus before it repeats.
I think the "with the ancestors" comment, I think that was the thing that really got Peggy thinking about it. She thought she was dead so it was possible for her to become his girlfriend/wife.
For the "Cotton having stolen valor" thing mentioned there's an episode that actually touches on Cotton making stuff up about what he did in the war, 2nd episode of season 4, plot is that it's after Peggy was in a wheelchair after her parachute not working, Cotton and her struck a deal basically where he'd help her with her with her physical therapy in exchange for her helping him keep some of his war veteran benefits, basically when researching the timeline Peggy realized the timeline of events according to Cotton didn't add up since he claimed to serve both in Germany and Japan at the same time, episode ends with him being forced to admit he never served in Germany.
Cotton is a true American hero, he killed 50 men! Cotton fought in Italy and the pacific. Also it was about securing him a grave at a certain cemetery.
Going off that there's actually a speech from Hank in that episode that somewhat backs that up: "6'4, my dad was 6'4 when he left he was 5ft when he came back. Doctor's told him he'd never walk again so when he did, he reached up and punched the doctor in the kidneys. I don't know how many men my dad killed, hell, I don't even know if that story about the doctor was true, but I know my dad gave a lot for his country and he deserves a spot in the Texas state cemetary." Not only does the speech show that Hank actually cared for his dad, but it also explains that even if Cotton hasn't killed 50 men, he did sacrifice during the war on behalf of his country. Also that episode has one of my favorite lines "Steve Austin, is that the 6 million dollar man, or the wrestler?"
Theres the flashback of the corpses of the men he claimed he killed in that episode where they go to Redcorn's sweatlodge. I believe he did kill some men but not fifty like he claimed.
Hell, he was a pimp in one episode. His "competition " was voiced by Snoop Dogg, and he had a stable of hoes in OKC 🤣 And you can't forget him mistakenly buying crack for fishing bait lol
The episode where Hank is pissed when he has been paying MSRP on the vehicles he's be buying for 25 years or so. He leavers flyers but he inadvertently gets a kid a his cronies to burn the place down. The dealer doesn't press charges cuz he knows Hanks rep. Hanks a known bad a$s. 🤣
It always kinda bugged me how the show's timeline never really moved forward (except for things like Luanne meeting Lucky and getting married and having a baby with him; Joseph going through puberty; Didi's pregnancy and Cotton dying; etc. just because they had so many dang Thanksgiving/holiday episodes
The timeline absolutely moved forward, just not at the pace of the 13 years of the series. A Bobby old enough to drink is not in the plan. And, 13 seasons with one for each holiday episode per year is 26, last I heard. There are nowhere that many and the ones that do exist are pretty good. Invalid post.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the reboot had Hank as Councilman Hill. That would make for some nice side plots from time to time. Hank probably got tired of having Councilman Evert and beat him in the next election. Would be in character for Hank to be a good local public servant and work at Strickland part time when he reaches his “retirement”.
It could work but I feel that was already explored during the episode with the flush toilets. Where Hank joins the home owner's accosciation and as soon as he gets one thing fixed he steps down. Hank's like President Polk where he got elected, did the 3 things he said he was gonna do and said, "I'm done."
Peggy saying those things to Cotton before he died didn't upset him, they excited him. Look, Cotton hated Peggy but ultimately he respected her, ie- the whole "therapy" he gave her after falling from the plane. He gave "Hank's wife" so much hell throughout the series what would be the last thing he could do to stick it to her? Die! Peggy saying she hopes he lives forever is a challenge to Cotton. And he's SO defiant of her he dies just to not live forever. Remember, he supposedly died twice already in that episode but as soon as Peggy says that he lights up and dies...
This. People are so fond of the show because of how it genuinely humanizes the seemingly bizzare people of Arlen, including Hank. In a media environment that usually paints these kinds of bigger than life texas characters as caricatures or spectacles to be ogled for how culturally abnormal they are to outsiders, Hank is the show's heart because he is purpose designed to show why a person like Hank often is the way he is, and why that is not necessarily something to be automatically laughed at or feared or derided as backward or racist etc. Hank is the way he is specifically to showcase that people like him are not simple inflexible caricatures and that while sometimes stubborn are capable of change, and also that their world view often comes from a genuine place of caring about values they genuinely believe are for the good of their community. Every other character in the show in some sense exists specifically to springboard Hank's growth as a person, or for hank to impart some wisdom to from his perspective initially, before the writers in later seasons develop more of an interest in fleshing out the rest of the cast with more depth. I think people really gravitate to the show because in a sea of TV dads Hank really does feel like a slightly exaggerated version of a lot of people's actual dad. Embarassingly old fashioned, a little weird from the perspective of a younger generation, but also genuinely loving and caring and willing to listen if its actually important. I think he's really relatable in a way Peter Griffon or Homer Simpson or any number of older sitcom dads aren't because they're all either too perfect as people, too far in to the terrible father trope, or too much of a goofy caricature. Hank is compelling because he straddles a line between larger than life depictions of all of these aspects of TV dad-hood and that makes him a nearly perfect TV dad. As a whole king of the hill is a silly show but with a lot of heart. Its a show about finding beauty in the imperfect.
@@michaelmusker7818 Also they writers don't undermine Hank's character for an easy laugh like a lot of other shows do. He is consistent (not stagnant but consistent). He has character development and growth but he always feels like Hank.
Nice work on the KotH Iceberg videos. I'm a big fan of the show, always have been since I saw it come out in the 1990's. One of the best-written shows in TV history, especially for animation. And I don't think it went stale like The Simpsons or Family Guy. Good old Hank.
"I'm with Cupid" is not a coincidence. A coincidence is when two unrelated things that seem adjacent or consequential are directly linked, when they aren't at all. That describes this entry perfectly, aside from the distinction at the end.
Awesome video 🔥🔥 Glad there was a follow up to the last video. I did not think the king in yellow would ever be mentioned in a king of the hill video. But here we are lol.
But really, how did Peggy get to Arlen? Her parents still lived in Montana in her adulthood, but her and Hank somehow met and dated in high school. Curious.
I think (personal theory) it has to do with her mother. Peggy’s mom seems to look down on her getting an education, becoming a teacher and marrying hank instead of the neighbor boy for the farm. I suspect she went to Texas to get away and likely went there due to her upbringing. Maybe Texas just sounded appealing as opposed to staying anywhere in Montana or the Midwest in general. Also Hoyt is 6 years older than her, and it could be that he may have influenced her since he left home as well.
Good question! Following the vein of "early version of Peggy's mom was actually her aunt as a mother figure," maybe the family used to visit said aunt when Peggy was young and Peggy took a shine to Texas, asking to visit as much as possible. Maybe her parents would stay on the ranch in Montana and send Peggy to visit her aunt when she was old enough to travel by herself... Then, one year, Peggy met Hank and wanted to move to Texas so they could date. Her mother was completely against the idea, but not really liking Peggy as a person anyway (and wanting her out of her hair) worked something out with the aunt so her daughter could go to high school there. Peggy and Hank stayed together after high school, and the rest is history.
I could’ve sworn there was an episode that really made it seem like Nancy told Joseph, but towards the end of the series. Would love an archer iceberg theory!
It is HEAVILY implied Nancy tells Joseph the truth in the Thanksgiving episode where Bobby goes crazy and reject the holiday. It's implied that Joseph knows the truth and is mature enough to understand the implications and problems that stem from both. So, he says it in a way that makes no sense to Dale because he's a doofus, but makes perfect sense to somewhat like John Redcorn who has normal reasoning skills.
Thanks for both episodes! Lots of good stuff in these KoTH vids. I used to watch it religiously and it was fun to go down the rabbit hole with you. Cheers!
The whole "with the ancestors thing" I think the writers just needed to create conflict. I agree it was a slightly odd way to do it, seeing that even if English isn't Eduardo's first language, he has been shown to be fully capable of having fluent English conversations. So, gaslighting? No. Slightly odd/clumsy writing choice? Probably. (This is one of my favorite episodes, btw.)
I remember hearing a theory that the reason Boomhaur is quiet about his Texas ranger is because he's actually watching over Dale, as you can tell Dale is extreme in his views. But Boomhaur has known Dale since high school, and knows he isn't a threat, so doesn't have a reason to step in.
Sorry, I'm gonna have to go ahead and kill this theory. In order to become a Texas Ranger, you have to have an outstanding record of at least 8 years with a bona fide law enforcement agency, engaged principally in the investigation of major crimes. There's no way lifelong friends would absolutely miss 8 years of work experience of one of their friends BEFORE they went "undercover".
@@10KProductions to expand on the Texas ranger theory consider who else lives in the town. You have Hank's father cotton who attempted to assassinate Castro on at least one occasion. Bill who was part of an army experiment. Then to top it off you have the daughter of a Laos general moving into the town. You can also consider all the s*** they get away with throughout the series somebody has to have a connection to law enforcement.
@@victore8342 going to have to disagree it makes more sense for him to be a Texas ranger if you consider everything that goes on. Hank's father cotton has attempted to assassinate Castro on the least one occasion and who will knows what other stuff he's gotten into. Despite being part of the control group Bill was part of an army experiment so it would make sense to keep an eye on him. Mihn's father is there a tired general from Laos. And bucks Strickland who I'm convinced does a lot more shady stuff than we realize. It's also the fact that if you look at all the stuff they've done over the years and gotten away with including stealing a tank from the nearby military base it would make a lot more sense to have somebody who has connection to law enforcement to sweep everything under the rug.
Joseph and John Redcorn thing is complicated, and I hope they address this in the reboot given the emotions that surround this. By all accounts biologically John Redcorn is Joseph's father, but Dale is Joseph's father figure. Its similar to some kids who were adopted at birth, view their adoptive parents as their real parents, and their biological parents as donors. Meaning Joseph may know but not care, since the only dad that matters to him is the one who raised him. He could be trying to save face, since the amount of bullying he would've received if the affair came to light would've been brutal. Kids like Clark or Dooley calling his mom a slut. What would be really funny if the creators had Joseph do a DNA test and it come back that he is actually Dale's son biologically, and the reason he looks different is from a 1/1000000 genetic fluke.
In the episode where Cotton is trying to secure a grave at the military cemetery, Peggy and Hank trace his stories and find out at least some of them are lies due to impossible travel times going from Asia to Munich over night.
Those theories were so pants-on-head stupid I feel dumber for having listened to this. The behind the scenes content and obscure trivia were interesting, though.
I think is weird that Could has his ashes flushed down a toilet when there's a episode about making sure he gets a grave in the soldier's graveyard and Peggy even gets out of her wheelchair to dance on it.
For a lot of soldiers, it’s more about having some sort of memorial/recognition, even if the plot itself is empty since you still get a stone with your name, dob, dod, and wars served, etc. Then the whole gun salute/taps being played and family getting a flag ceremonially wrapped and presented. My own grandpa is in the same situation- he died in January and he’s been cremated for some time now, but he’s still got an official military funeral coming up next month. Grandma plans on putting a small amount of the ashes in the ground, but the majority of them have been spread elsewhere and some family has some in our own personal little urns. Just a forever memorial for your service to the country, and a place family can visit, etc.
@@Forbiddensirenz grandpa served barely at the end of WWII. was in china for awhile. Still, to a patriotic american, nothing hits like that at a funeral.
14:08 well there's a possible reason for that. In the episode "Dale tech" when cotton shows up at the house DeeDees out in the car and cotton yells at her "Fine call your lawyer" and she leaves cotton at the hills house, to my knowledge we dont see her again before cotton dies. I think its implied that she left cotton and took GH.
I absolutely HATE the Pigmalion ep-- too twisted! What ever happened to ditzy Didi and 'Good' Hank, after Cotton's death? Hank has a little brother out there, somewhere, that he never sees again? I hope Hank reuniting with Junichiro is featured in the upcoming reboot too. I don't think Joseph or Dale ever find out that Redcorn is Joseph's father. Dale would flip the tiny bit of 'wig' that he's barely able to hold onto. It's easier for him to believe that aliens inseminated Nancy with his sperm. ONE SERIES I hope you will 'explain' in the future is Archer. 😂 Thanks for the upload. ❤
The wife makes the same mistake at the end of the Senior Martinez episode. She also says she was with her ancestors then corrects herself and says grandparents. He definitely wasn’t gas lighting her. Peggie’s ego and subconscious desire for romance got the best of her.
I disagree with the Monsignor Martinez one. I think it was just a translation error. We had a German guy at work say he had a date with the boss when what he clearly meant was appointment.
The Bill being Bobby's father theory is really not that weak, especially considering the physical and personality characteristics and traits shared between the two. The only solid argument against this is that Peggy wouldn't sleep with Bill but that doesn't rule out the possibility of Bill being a sperm donor. Peggy even mentioned the possibility of in vitro fertilizarion in Pregnant Paws which Hank scoffed at but if Peggy were desperate enough for a child... also Hank's "boys" finally getting the job done just because they got a puppy and he was finally relaxed enough? I mean.. that's just nonsense and not how biology works.
I wonder if Bobby’s father is actually Cotton. It fits Cotton’s womanizing character, it explains why Bobby clearly resembles a Hill despite Hank’s narrow urethra, and it sheds light on Cotton and Peggy’s deep mutual hatred.
I think the new season coming soon will have the Hills taking care of GH. So its like having a new bobby, now with Hank being even older having to deal with Gen Z stuff. Bobby will takeover as 20 something year old role, and be living with his parents still.
I think it's impired DeeDee and her professional...wrestler husband take care of GH. I think having Gracie as a female 'Bobby" would work better since both Tom Petty and Brittany Murphy are with their ancestors. I do think having Bobby in Luanne's role would work though but I'd personally have him, Connie and Joseph live together instead.
I imagine a grown Bobby and Khan Jr married. Bobby reluctantly working for his Dad at Strickland, (Hank is finally manager, but not owner), Buck sold the business, so it’s a franchise. On weekends, Bobby does stand-up at the comedy club, (his true calling). Khan Jr is a teacher at a school for gifted children, and makes much more income than Bobby, enabling them to have their own home.
Being a HUGE KotH fan, I've watched the show since it's debut back in 97' & continue to watch the reruns to this day. You touch on so many ?s I don't know were to start. But my top 1s would be Peggy's mom/ history, & the Hill house setup. Those have always puzzled the sh-t out of me because it doesn't seem like something that hard to keep consistent. Great video though because of alot of food for thought on 1 of the greatest cartoons in history (in my opinion)
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I think Tilly was just oppressed by cotton for so long and she had to repress herself to get by… and when she was older, she finally stopped giving a damn and was going a bit wild.
I like how the audience needs an introduciton to the concept of a iceburg chart, but references to The King In Yellow and Cthulhu are dropped casually with no context lol (this is not a criticism)
Sometimes they show Peggy’s mom being nice to her about her shoes and God made her but when they go to Montana her mom doesn’t like her much. Probably for not saving the farm lol
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I think how broke is Frank Murphy from F is for family would be interesting
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Weeds ….just out of curiosity Nancy botwin and the gang numbers break down of how much they’re worth at the end of the season I’d find that super interesting but probably pretty hard to do
In the episode where Hank escorted Tilly and her friends to that figurine convention, Hank stated that Tilly would often space out on her figurines and ignore whatever Cotton was doing to Hank,!so she was probably very neglectful
Regarding "Tilly is a bad parent" -
"Escape from Party Island" established that Tilly would focus on her collection of glass miniatures as a psychological escape from Cotton's verbal abuse. The same episode establishes that Hank hates miniatures, in part because of how Tilly's collection seems to affect her mental state.
It's probably not a stretch to assume that, if Cotton turned his ire to young Hank, Tilly would have probably done the same: ignore her child and focus on her collection. Hank's hatred of miniatures might also stem from having to face Cotton without her protection, abandoned in favor of her glass menagerie.
I read an interesting theory about why Hank cried over his truck finally going out. Hank in his adulthood got really attached to his truck because it was very reliable and dependable, unlike Cotton and Tilly. It finally dying made Hank break down in tears because his truck was unreliable now too, like his parents.
Maybe not in such a specific way, but yeah a lot of the behaviors he shows have to do with his terrible parents. It shapes you, and you'll always see yourself doing something because of the trauma
Ngl I cried on that episode and I was only like 8 or 9. I guess I would say it was just symbolic to new beginnings and sometimes letting go of the wheel. Hank was persistent about getting his truck fixed in that episode while a confident truck salesman hassles him about getting rid of the truck and buy a new one which would later be Hank’s fate they even sprinkled in flashbacks some from the casts past and some familiar. Bit of a full circle all in one episode.
Or don't overthink it. Trucks dying is sad.
Yeah I'm gonna agree with @0hn0haha . I bought my 1992 Corvette when I was 17 and I've come to tears a few times with breakdowns thinking I would have to sell the car. Thankfully I still have it running strong after 8 years.
He had that truck for 20 years a lot of memories hank just being hank imagine ladybird dying
My theory on cottons character was that he's lost so many people, that he decided he didn't want anyone to miss him when he died so he wanted to make sure everyone hated him. Peggy saying that was the final thing he needed to know nobody was going to miss him, so she technically gave him the peace he wanted.
I can see that. But hank and guys definitely missed cotton and of course Bobby!
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Damn that's heavy, great interpretation.
A very PTSD way to think so it fits really well
@@TheWedabest Yeah. Dale even blew up Hank's sissy shack.
Cotton definitely killed at least a few men. There is an episode where Cotton, Hank, Bill, Dale, and Boomhaur go to a sweat lodge. They have visions as a result, with Cotton's being a PTSD induced hallucination where he's confronted with the dead corpses of the men he killed come back.
He killed fitty men in the war
The black and white pencil sketch animation was Mike Judge literally animating his pitch for the show for the studio. He wanted Hank to introduce the show to the studio instead of himself Mike Judge doing it which is absolutely brilliant and very original especially for pitching a show and it absolutely work and it’s a fantastic show
I remember that Boomhauer admits to dying his hair at some point in the series, so the "Bobby is also blonde" thing holds absolutely no water whatsoever
Season 10 episode 1 "Hank's on Board"
I think child Dale in the flashbacks has blonde hair, so it likely got dark as he aged.
It's shown in many episodes where they have flashbacks of their childhood that Boomhauer is still blonde. It's more likely that he is dyeing his hair to hide greys, due to his age.
@Fralorgrafon You mean lighter?
He may have dyed it because it was getting grey, not because he wasn't originally blonde
The final theory that Peggy killed Cotton, I can't remember if Peggy knew if Cotton could voluntarily start and stop his heart or not, but I could 1000% see Peggy using that to kill him, and I can 10000% see Cotton being petty enough against Peggy to kill himself just to spite her.
He did. Just because she said she hoped he'd live forever he never wanted to do what she said so just to be defiant he just went on and died. I mean, just look at how he lit up and how gleeful he was when she said that...
I totally believe Cotton is Bobby’s father
@@maenad1231 yeah considering Bobby looks more like Cotton than he does Hank (and Hank looks like his mother, but then again....why does Hank's Japanese brother look like Hank's mother as well, and oh btw Cotton claimed the narrow urethra came from Hank's mother's side....yeah after Returning Japanese part 2....Cotton lied about yet another thing)
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@@maenad1231 young Hank looks a lot like young Bobby imo
Actually Boomhauer generally follows the law, in the episode order of the strait arrow, he specifically tells the game warden about the Whooping crane for example.
Or when he tells the fire Marshall that it was Dale who was responsible for burning the firehouse down and that they should all be ashamed for placing the blame on a dead man.
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He could have also been quietly training throughout the series, not officially obtaining a badge and title until towards the end of the series.
@Hitler was a conservative Christian how did you know beforehand?
Not to mention if you consider all the s*** they've gotten away with over the years it would make sense if one of them had connections to law enforcement.
Honestly, I 10000% could see Cotton purposely stopping his heart just to spite Peggy
My two favorite theories on Dale: I've always really liked the theory that Dale knows all about Nancy's affair but is getting revenge on John Redcorn by making Redcorn watch helplessly as Dale raises Joseph and is loved by Joseph in return. John Redcorn will always be just that random family friend that Joseph only vaguely knows, and that KILLS Redcorn. Now, as for Dale's revenge on Nancy, I don't believe there is any. Dale does genuinely love his wife and worships the ground she walks on. I think Dale also knows that he is hard to live with, and while that doesn't excuse Nancy cheating, Dale is aware that he's too weird to do any better than Nancy and too unhinged to handle a divorce. I do not, however, think that Joseph knows the truth. I don't think a young teenage boy would be able to react so calmly to being told that his father isn't his father. That's devastating. My second theory: I believe Dale actually benefited from being accidentally admitted to the psychiatric hospital with Boomhauer and Bill, and maybe even continued to take his psychiatric medication. He didn't seem opposed to taking them, even when they got to leave the hospital, and he seems a bit more well-versed and wise regarding mental health after that episode. Idk, just my headcannon!
I think he knows it’s just repressed and he’ll remember eventually in life. Or In his mind, he just has Dale as his Dad.
for some reason I like the theory that Dale knew the whole time
Don't forget that Dale had Joseph believing he was the son of an alien. Hell, Joseph ran away to go to the ?marman? Lights to be picked up by his alien dad.
THIS! I love it
8:03 I always thought Dale's "Shi-Sha" was him trying to have his own music drop like he is in a spy movie. That he was particularly trying to sound like a copyright free version of "Oh Yeah" from "Ferris Bueler's Day Off". The "Shi-Sha" even sounds like the last few beats of the chorus before it repeats.
I think the "with the ancestors" comment, I think that was the thing that really got Peggy thinking about it. She thought she was dead so it was possible for her to become his girlfriend/wife.
For the "Cotton having stolen valor" thing mentioned there's an episode that actually touches on Cotton making stuff up about what he did in the war, 2nd episode of season 4, plot is that it's after Peggy was in a wheelchair after her parachute not working, Cotton and her struck a deal basically where he'd help her with her with her physical therapy in exchange for her helping him keep some of his war veteran benefits, basically when researching the timeline Peggy realized the timeline of events according to Cotton didn't add up since he claimed to serve both in Germany and Japan at the same time, episode ends with him being forced to admit he never served in Germany.
Cotton is a true American hero, he killed 50 men! Cotton fought in Italy and the pacific. Also it was about securing him a grave at a certain cemetery.
Going off that there's actually a speech from Hank in that episode that somewhat backs that up:
"6'4, my dad was 6'4 when he left he was 5ft when he came back. Doctor's told him he'd never walk again so when he did, he reached up and punched the doctor in the kidneys. I don't know how many men my dad killed, hell, I don't even know if that story about the doctor was true, but I know my dad gave a lot for his country and he deserves a spot in the Texas state cemetary."
Not only does the speech show that Hank actually cared for his dad, but it also explains that even if Cotton hasn't killed 50 men, he did sacrifice during the war on behalf of his country. Also that episode has one of my favorite lines
"Steve Austin, is that the 6 million dollar man, or the wrestler?"
Theres the flashback of the corpses of the men he claimed he killed in that episode where they go to Redcorn's sweatlodge. I believe he did kill some men but not fifty like he claimed.
@@TheWedabest fiitty men!
@@DRANKWORLD and he's damn proud of it! Lol
Also for the hank ISNT straight-laced theory, hank has ran from the police multiple times.
“Where’s the button to turn myself in??”
Hell, he was a pimp in one episode. His "competition " was voiced by Snoop Dogg, and he had a stable of hoes in OKC 🤣 And you can't forget him mistakenly buying crack for fishing bait lol
The episode where Hank is pissed when he has been paying MSRP on the vehicles he's be buying for 25 years or so. He leavers flyers but he inadvertently gets a kid a his cronies to burn the place down. The dealer doesn't press charges cuz he knows Hanks rep. Hanks a known bad a$s. 🤣
The greatness of a show that ages like fine wine.
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It wasn't even just cocaine, it was crack. Hank Hill habitually bought crack. 🤣
It always kinda bugged me how the show's timeline never really moved forward (except for things like Luanne meeting Lucky and getting married and having a baby with him; Joseph going through puberty; Didi's pregnancy and Cotton dying; etc. just because they had so many dang Thanksgiving/holiday episodes
They don't really have that many, I can think of like two or three of each. And time does move, Bobby ages from 10 to 14 throughout the show
The timeline absolutely moved forward, just not at the pace of the 13 years of the series. A Bobby old enough to drink is not in the plan.
And, 13 seasons with one for each holiday episode per year is 26, last I heard. There are nowhere that many and the ones that do exist are pretty good.
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It was one of the design parameters of the network so it could be shown in any order
I wouldn’t be surprised if the reboot had Hank as Councilman Hill. That would make for some nice side plots from time to time. Hank probably got tired of having Councilman Evert and beat him in the next election. Would be in character for Hank to be a good local public servant and work at Strickland part time when he reaches his “retirement”.
It could work but I feel that was already explored during the episode with the flush toilets. Where Hank joins the home owner's accosciation and as soon as he gets one thing fixed he steps down. Hank's like President Polk where he got elected, did the 3 things he said he was gonna do and said, "I'm done."
“We won!”
“No, Bobby. Arlen won.”
Why is everyone so convinced "shi-sha" means anything?! Its just a weird noise dale makes like Wembley with his "mmnnt"
IKR
Peggy saying those things to Cotton before he died didn't upset him, they excited him. Look, Cotton hated Peggy but ultimately he respected her, ie- the whole "therapy" he gave her after falling from the plane. He gave "Hank's wife" so much hell throughout the series what would be the last thing he could do to stick it to her? Die! Peggy saying she hopes he lives forever is a challenge to Cotton. And he's SO defiant of her he dies just to not live forever. Remember, he supposedly died twice already in that episode but as soon as Peggy says that he lights up and dies...
Hank is 'straight laced' but he also isn't completely set in his ways. He is more concerned about doing what is right than doing what is expected.
This. People are so fond of the show because of how it genuinely humanizes the seemingly bizzare people of Arlen, including Hank. In a media environment that usually paints these kinds of bigger than life texas characters as caricatures or spectacles to be ogled for how culturally abnormal they are to outsiders, Hank is the show's heart because he is purpose designed to show why a person like Hank often is the way he is, and why that is not necessarily something to be automatically laughed at or feared or derided as backward or racist etc.
Hank is the way he is specifically to showcase that people like him are not simple inflexible caricatures and that while sometimes stubborn are capable of change, and also that their world view often comes from a genuine place of caring about values they genuinely believe are for the good of their community.
Every other character in the show in some sense exists specifically to springboard Hank's growth as a person, or for hank to impart some wisdom to from his perspective initially, before the writers in later seasons develop more of an interest in fleshing out the rest of the cast with more depth.
I think people really gravitate to the show because in a sea of TV dads Hank really does feel like a slightly exaggerated version of a lot of people's actual dad. Embarassingly old fashioned, a little weird from the perspective of a younger generation, but also genuinely loving and caring and willing to listen if its actually important. I think he's really relatable in a way Peter Griffon or Homer Simpson or any number of older sitcom dads aren't because they're all either too perfect as people, too far in to the terrible father trope, or too much of a goofy caricature. Hank is compelling because he straddles a line between larger than life depictions of all of these aspects of TV dad-hood and that makes him a nearly perfect TV dad.
As a whole king of the hill is a silly show but with a lot of heart. Its a show about finding beauty in the imperfect.
@@michaelmusker7818 Also they writers don't undermine Hank's character for an easy laugh like a lot of other shows do. He is consistent (not stagnant but consistent). He has character development and growth but he always feels like Hank.
I rewatched the season one episode about Peggy's feel being exploited and Hank said Boomhauer has known Peggy longer than him.
Boomhauer probly introduced them
@@demetriuscolburn252 I believe he did.
The episode where Hank is fishing with crack is hilarious!
Nice work on the KotH Iceberg videos. I'm a big fan of the show, always have been since I saw it come out in the 1990's. One of the best-written shows in TV history, especially for animation. And I don't think it went stale like The Simpsons or Family Guy. Good old Hank.
"I'm with Cupid" is not a coincidence. A coincidence is when two unrelated things that seem adjacent or consequential are directly linked, when they aren't at all. That describes this entry perfectly, aside from the distinction at the end.
Awesome video 🔥🔥
Glad there was a follow up to the last video. I did not think the king in yellow would ever be mentioned in a king of the hill video. But here we are lol.
But really, how did Peggy get to Arlen? Her parents still lived in Montana in her adulthood, but her and Hank somehow met and dated in high school. Curious.
Here is an idea army base
@@landonshields3648 no that is an army base
I think (personal theory) it has to do with her mother. Peggy’s mom seems to look down on her getting an education, becoming a teacher and marrying hank instead of the neighbor boy for the farm.
I suspect she went to Texas to get away and likely went there due to her upbringing.
Maybe Texas just sounded appealing as opposed to staying anywhere in Montana or the Midwest in general.
Also Hoyt is 6 years older than her, and it could be that he may have influenced her since he left home as well.
Good question!
Following the vein of "early version of Peggy's mom was actually her aunt as a mother figure," maybe the family used to visit said aunt when Peggy was young and Peggy took a shine to Texas, asking to visit as much as possible. Maybe her parents would stay on the ranch in Montana and send Peggy to visit her aunt when she was old enough to travel by herself...
Then, one year, Peggy met Hank and wanted to move to Texas so they could date. Her mother was completely against the idea, but not really liking Peggy as a person anyway (and wanting her out of her hair) worked something out with the aunt so her daughter could go to high school there.
Peggy and Hank stayed together after high school, and the rest is history.
I could’ve sworn there was an episode that really made it seem like Nancy told Joseph, but towards the end of the series.
Would love an archer iceberg theory!
It is HEAVILY implied Nancy tells Joseph the truth in the Thanksgiving episode where Bobby goes crazy and reject the holiday. It's implied that Joseph knows the truth and is mature enough to understand the implications and problems that stem from both. So, he says it in a way that makes no sense to Dale because he's a doofus, but makes perfect sense to somewhat like John Redcorn who has normal reasoning skills.
@16:35 I feel like dale liked cotton too. Great video!
Been waiting for this bad boi!
I love you channel. It’s super cathartic, especially the end theme. Thank you for making the content you do!
Thanks for both episodes! Lots of good stuff in these KoTH vids. I used to watch it religiously and it was fun to go down the rabbit hole with you. Cheers!
Oh heck yeah. Been waiting for this.
Love these iceberg vids. On a king of the hill binge right now so it was a nice surprise.
The whole "with the ancestors thing" I think the writers just needed to create conflict. I agree it was a slightly odd way to do it, seeing that even if English isn't Eduardo's first language, he has been shown to be fully capable of having fluent English conversations. So, gaslighting? No. Slightly odd/clumsy writing choice? Probably. (This is one of my favorite episodes, btw.)
Duuude let’s go. I just watching part 1 a couple days ago
My man
I remember hearing a theory that the reason Boomhaur is quiet about his Texas ranger is because he's actually watching over Dale, as you can tell Dale is extreme in his views.
But Boomhaur has known Dale since high school, and knows he isn't a threat, so doesn't have a reason to step in.
You should check out part 1! I talk about that actually
Actually dale and boomhaur have known each other sense they were kids.
Sorry, I'm gonna have to go ahead and kill this theory. In order to become a Texas Ranger, you have to have an outstanding record of at least 8 years with a bona fide law enforcement agency, engaged principally in the investigation of major crimes. There's no way lifelong friends would absolutely miss 8 years of work experience of one of their friends BEFORE they went "undercover".
@@10KProductions to expand on the Texas ranger theory consider who else lives in the town. You have Hank's father cotton who attempted to assassinate Castro on at least one occasion.
Bill who was part of an army experiment.
Then to top it off you have the daughter of a Laos general moving into the town.
You can also consider all the s*** they get away with throughout the series somebody has to have a connection to law enforcement.
@@victore8342 going to have to disagree it makes more sense for him to be a Texas ranger if you consider everything that goes on.
Hank's father cotton has attempted to assassinate Castro on the least one occasion and who will knows what other stuff he's gotten into.
Despite being part of the control group Bill was part of an army experiment so it would make sense to keep an eye on him.
Mihn's father is there a tired general from Laos.
And bucks Strickland who I'm convinced does a lot more shady stuff than we realize.
It's also the fact that if you look at all the stuff they've done over the years and gotten away with including stealing a tank from the nearby military base it would make a lot more sense to have somebody who has connection to law enforcement to sweep everything under the rug.
Oh my goodness... incredible you're back 🥹
I think Eduardo's "with the ancestors" thing is just him translating badly. His wife makes the exact same mistake when she shows up.
Joseph and John Redcorn thing is complicated, and I hope they address this in the reboot given the emotions that surround this. By all accounts biologically John Redcorn is Joseph's father, but Dale is Joseph's father figure. Its similar to some kids who were adopted at birth, view their adoptive parents as their real parents, and their biological parents as donors. Meaning Joseph may know but not care, since the only dad that matters to him is the one who raised him. He could be trying to save face, since the amount of bullying he would've received if the affair came to light would've been brutal. Kids like Clark or Dooley calling his mom a slut. What would be really funny if the creators had Joseph do a DNA test and it come back that he is actually Dale's son biologically, and the reason he looks different is from a 1/1000000 genetic fluke.
the tension is a plot line they like bringing up over and over again, they don't want to ruin that though they'll tease it
Won't work since Dale ran a DNA on John Redcorn's other child and she was a match to be Joseph's sister.
In the episode where Cotton is trying to secure a grave at the military cemetery, Peggy and Hank trace his stories and find out at least some of them are lies due to impossible travel times going from Asia to Munich over night.
Cotton knows instant transmission
Bro these videos are bad ass
Thanks bro
Those theories were so pants-on-head stupid I feel dumber for having listened to this. The behind the scenes content and obscure trivia were interesting, though.
Yep pretty weak
Thank you for this
Oh wow, I wasn't expecting a part 2! Yay!!
Very well put together videos. You’re awesome!
Confirmed Kills on KOTH:
Cotton Hill: 50 (or 0?)
Peggy Hill: 2
Luanne: 1
oh heck yeah i been waiting for this one
I think is weird that Could has his ashes flushed down a toilet when there's a episode about making sure he gets a grave in the soldier's graveyard and Peggy even gets out of her wheelchair to dance on it.
For a lot of soldiers, it’s more about having some sort of memorial/recognition, even if the plot itself is empty since you still get a stone with your name, dob, dod, and wars served, etc. Then the whole gun salute/taps being played and family getting a flag ceremonially wrapped and presented.
My own grandpa is in the same situation- he died in January and he’s been cremated for some time now, but he’s still got an official military funeral coming up next month. Grandma plans on putting a small amount of the ashes in the ground, but the majority of them have been spread elsewhere and some family has some in our own personal little urns.
Just a forever memorial for your service to the country, and a place family can visit, etc.
@@Forbiddensirenz grandpa served barely at the end of WWII. was in china for awhile. Still, to a patriotic american, nothing hits like that at a funeral.
Dale's butchering "Shashou" - a Chinese term that is used to mean secret weapon. He probably picked it up from 55 Days in Peking.
I am retired law enforcement in Louisiana and personally know two Texas Rangers and they definitely act similar to Boomhauer.
If dale was saying сша over and over it sould be more like "se sheh ah, se sheh ah"
Great video
Aliantos is a Legend for those videos!
*"Clouds?"* 🤣🤣
Great video 👍🏼
14:08 well there's a possible reason for that. In the episode "Dale tech" when cotton shows up at the house DeeDees out in the car and cotton yells at her "Fine call your lawyer" and she leaves cotton at the hills house, to my knowledge we dont see her again before cotton dies. I think its implied that she left cotton and took GH.
Im a simple man 10k productions makes a video I watch
Thanks friend
How about a part 3?
I absolutely HATE the Pigmalion ep-- too twisted! What ever happened to ditzy Didi and 'Good' Hank, after Cotton's death? Hank has a little brother out there, somewhere, that he never sees again? I hope Hank reuniting with Junichiro is featured in the upcoming reboot too. I don't think Joseph or Dale ever find out that Redcorn is Joseph's father. Dale would flip the tiny bit of 'wig' that he's barely able to hold onto. It's easier for him to believe that aliens inseminated Nancy with his sperm. ONE SERIES I hope you will 'explain' in the future is Archer. 😂 Thanks for the upload. ❤
Hope we get some Interesting stuff on bill like his hints of him being abused as a child
The wife makes the same mistake at the end of the Senior Martinez episode. She also says she was with her ancestors then corrects herself and says grandparents. He definitely wasn’t gas lighting her. Peggie’s ego and subconscious desire for romance got the best of her.
I disagree with the Monsignor Martinez one. I think it was just a translation error. We had a German guy at work say he had a date with the boss when what he clearly meant was appointment.
I think Boomhauer was a ranger, but maybe he just became one the last season. He could have started in Corrections and finally worked his way up.
Holy god you have blessed us beyond belief
King of the hill has been my favorite show since the 90s. Love these.
I'm a huge fan of King of the hill so thank you for posting this as I feel koth is no longer discussed due to how long it's been since it went off air
11:45 In a season 4 episode Hank specifically states that Boomhaur has know Peggy longer than he has, this doesn't really change anything but still.
You know the best way to melt an iceberg? Propane and propane accessories.
In Idiocracy, They make a reference to King of the Hill producers by saying "Thanks to the fine work of doctors Krinsky and Altschuler...."
The Bill being Bobby's father theory is really not that weak, especially considering the physical and personality characteristics and traits shared between the two. The only solid argument against this is that Peggy wouldn't sleep with Bill but that doesn't rule out the possibility of Bill being a sperm donor. Peggy even mentioned the possibility of in vitro fertilizarion in Pregnant Paws which Hank scoffed at but if Peggy were desperate enough for a child... also Hank's "boys" finally getting the job done just because they got a puppy and he was finally relaxed enough? I mean.. that's just nonsense and not how biology works.
Yeah those KOTH edits are incredible. I would say it might even be a subgenre of YTPs or maybe even a different enough format that it isn't even YTP.
I wonder if Bobby’s father is actually Cotton. It fits Cotton’s womanizing character, it explains why Bobby clearly resembles a Hill despite Hank’s narrow urethra, and it sheds light on Cotton and Peggy’s deep mutual hatred.
I think the new season coming soon will have the Hills taking care of GH. So its like having a new bobby, now with Hank being even older having to deal with Gen Z stuff. Bobby will takeover as 20 something year old role, and be living with his parents still.
I think it's impired DeeDee and her professional...wrestler husband take care of GH. I think having Gracie as a female 'Bobby" would work better since both Tom Petty and Brittany Murphy are with their ancestors. I do think having Bobby in Luanne's role would work though but I'd personally have him, Connie and Joseph live together instead.
I imagine a grown Bobby and Khan Jr married. Bobby reluctantly working for his Dad at Strickland, (Hank is finally manager, but not owner), Buck sold the business, so it’s a franchise. On weekends, Bobby does stand-up at the comedy club, (his true calling). Khan Jr is a teacher at a school for gifted children, and makes much more income than Bobby, enabling them to have their own home.
What’s the death picks cotton pun I’m not sure I’m picking up on it
Do a beavis and butthead iceberg!!
15:17 there's a quote from gradians of the galaxy 2 that i think really fits here "he may have been your father but he wasn't your daddy" yondu
Better theory is that hank is a pyromaniac
Blew up the Megalomart , blew up a car dealer-ship, propane fanatic.
Ward Rackley was also named after a producer I believe. And I think another original producers name was Dautrive
He works on the bob burger show now
What a nice surprise for today :)
Being a HUGE KotH fan, I've watched the show since it's debut back in 97' & continue to watch the reruns to this day. You touch on so many ?s I don't know were to start. But my top 1s would be Peggy's mom/ history, & the Hill house setup. Those have always puzzled the sh-t out of me because it doesn't seem like something that hard to keep consistent. Great video though because of alot of food for thought on 1 of the greatest cartoons in history (in my opinion)
~Peggg legggg, my little peg leggg~
That’s one for the hub my friend. We don’t talk about it here but we do openly their. Lmao
Boomhaur is a CROOKED COP, duh.
Or as it's sometimes called, MOST COPS
I lost my tv remote and as i was trying to connect cast to my tv my phone died at %20 leaving your videos on king of the hill ice burg to play back to back 6 times until i had enough charge to turn on my phone. Subscribed
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If we'll say that Peggy DID kill Cotton then I would say it was one of her greatest acts of love towards Hank.
For Sha-Sha, I just think its something Dale says to sound cool. Which would fit with his character imo
Shoutout Hank Trill!
Boomhauer is 100% using the badge to pick up ladies, nobody can convince me otherwise
I want to do the horizontal monster mash
Ive never seen a grown man laugh harder than my dad did at the Bill balloon ride episode
I think Tilly was just oppressed by cotton for so long and she had to repress herself to get by… and when she was older, she finally stopped giving a damn and was going a bit wild.
it’s sad this video has so little likes
it’s really good
You should do a Beavis and Butthead iceberg
I like how the audience needs an introduciton to the concept of a iceburg chart, but references to The King In Yellow and Cthulhu are dropped casually with no context lol
(this is not a criticism)
Peggy wouldn't be charged with anything. The guy told her to pull the lever. She didn't do it on purpose.
Saying Hank Jr isn't his father would be a compliment. He didn't want to be his father.
Sometimes they show Peggy’s mom being nice to her about her shoes and God made her but when they go to Montana her mom doesn’t like her much. Probably for not saving the farm lol
Go do another video this time on hey arnold
That’d be dope!
@@SukkaPunch321 indeed it would be man I wanna watch exactly that 💯
Blonde hair is recessive.
It's pretty obvious Mr Strickland is Bobby's Dad.
It all adds up
4:28 absolute facts 🔥🔥🔥