Grew up on the sound of these aircraft between Fayetteville, NC and Charleston,SC. Experienced the arrival of the 1st C-17 in Charleston and watched the C-141 get phased out. The sound of those engines...simply legendary.
During the gulf war, they had us start training pilots to do what they called combat approaches where you would fly towards the runway at 3000 feet and at 3 miles start down. it was a visual approach. It was hard as an instructor to keep your hands off the controls as you saw a developing controlled impact with the runway getting ready to occur. when you had Reservervists who only flew the airplane once a quarter trying to do an otherwise difficult maneuver that seemed deceptively easy. I thought it was crazy but they weren't asking me what I thought. In hindsight, I thought it was an effort to justify the C-17 by deliberately wearing out the airplane by repeatedly banging it unecessarily against the ground. Shortly after such training was begun Maintenance started finding cracks in the wings and the Air Force started restricting the airspeed od the airplane. LOL, take an egg and tap it against a table top repeatedly and it starts to crack, so let me LOL, find my shocked face as repeated hard landing where students were required to swap ends in an approach that compelled steep approach angles and high rates of descent and inevitably led to repeated hard landings and they discover cracks in the wings, LOL NO SHIT! REALLY!
I was living in Fayetteville NC too. I used to hear that loud plane on takeoff. It always drowned out the A-10s until the F-16s came for their short time there. I sadly witnessed the F-16/C-130/C-141 crash.
@johannwanner3469 when I was a young airman, I worked with alot of reservists who were 141 guys. I heard them say, "the air force did those planes dirty" but I never really got any context to that statement. This makes alot of sense
Retired as an instructor on this aircraft, all the training was done in the airplane in the local pattern at Mcguire Air Force Base to keep squadron-assigned pilots current and proficient in normal and emergency procedures. Since the USAF didn't have simulators for this aircraft. So you had to be able to fly and instruct at the same time and keep track of whether the student was keeping up with the required checklists with the rapid succession of approaches flying to both ends of the same runway in figure eight patterns as you tried to make sure you cycled 8 to 10 pilots through the right seat to get their required approaches in within the allotted time and fuel.
I guess you are talking about “way back when”. In my time at Norton, and then McChord - we had sims. Not much to talk about, with a lousy visual. They would go down, and then take about 30 to 40 minutes to reboot. Check rides were required in the sim as well as the comp check in the aircraft. Always enjoyed the No Flap landing full stop at the end of the comp check.
I remember flying into Clark Airbase in 1978 just before Mt. Pinatubo blew its top and covered the place in ash. which resulted in the USAF returning the Base to the Philippines and closing it up. It is currently being redeveloped as New Clark City and as a new international airport. surrounded by new condo buildings I may myself move back there to live at some point as an expat.
to be sure, LOL, they worked it harder than a 57 Chevy truck all it was missing was the large cloth dice hanging from the whiskey compass and pom poms around the windows.
I repaired leaking fuel tanks , mostly on the leading edge on C141s from 1966 to late 68 at Travis AFB . it was a fun job because of the lack of supervision . the area was considered hazardous due to explosion possibility from sparks near or in the tanks so no higher brass was allowed inside of the work zone . the lowly airmen were the boss. 😂 silly and petty ? yes but fun .
It was a nice airplane, not as sexy as a fighter but you got to see a lot of the world, off the tourist trails in it. and work with a lot of great people with a crew that included a copilot, two engineers, and sometimes depending on the mission two loadmasters.
The song of the Starlifter. It's unique and sure brings back memories. CAFB 437th CEMS 67-70
Grew up on the sound of these aircraft between Fayetteville, NC and Charleston,SC. Experienced the arrival of the 1st C-17 in Charleston and watched the C-141 get phased out. The sound of those engines...simply legendary.
During the gulf war, they had us start training pilots to do what they called combat approaches where you would fly towards the runway at 3000 feet and at 3 miles start down. it was a visual approach. It was hard as an instructor to keep your hands off the controls as you saw a developing controlled impact with the runway getting ready to occur. when you had Reservervists who only flew the airplane once a quarter trying to do an otherwise difficult maneuver that seemed deceptively easy. I thought it was crazy but they weren't asking me what I thought. In hindsight, I thought it was an effort to justify the C-17 by deliberately wearing out the airplane by repeatedly banging it unecessarily against the ground. Shortly after such training was begun Maintenance started finding cracks in the wings and the Air Force started restricting the airspeed od the airplane. LOL, take an egg and tap it against a table top repeatedly and it starts to crack, so let me LOL, find my shocked face as repeated hard landing where students were required to swap ends in an approach that compelled steep approach angles and high rates of descent and inevitably led to repeated hard landings and they discover cracks in the wings, LOL NO SHIT! REALLY!
I was living in Fayetteville NC too. I used to hear that loud plane on takeoff. It always drowned out the A-10s until the F-16s came for their short time there. I sadly witnessed the F-16/C-130/C-141 crash.
@johannwanner3469 when I was a young airman, I worked with alot of reservists who were 141 guys.
I heard them say, "the air force did those planes dirty" but I never really got any context to that statement.
This makes alot of sense
Retired as an instructor on this aircraft, all the training was done in the airplane in the local pattern at Mcguire Air Force Base to keep squadron-assigned pilots current and proficient in normal and emergency procedures. Since the USAF didn't have simulators for this aircraft. So you had to be able to fly and instruct at the same time and keep track of whether the student was keeping up with the required checklists with the rapid succession of approaches flying to both ends of the same runway in figure eight patterns as you tried to make sure you cycled 8 to 10 pilots through the right seat to get their required approaches in within the allotted time and fuel.
I guess you are talking about “way back when”. In my time at Norton, and then McChord - we had sims. Not much to talk about, with a lousy visual. They would go down, and then take about 30 to 40 minutes to reboot. Check rides were required in the sim as well as the comp check in the aircraft. Always enjoyed the No Flap landing full stop at the end of the comp check.
Flew in one from Clark AFB to California in 2/68m a lot better than the 56 hour flight in 3/67 from Ca. to Phu Bai
I remember flying into Clark Airbase in 1978 just before Mt. Pinatubo blew its top and covered the place in ash. which resulted in the USAF returning the Base to the Philippines and closing it up. It is currently being redeveloped as New Clark City and as a new international airport. surrounded by new condo buildings I may myself move back there to live at some point as an expat.
US taxpayer got their money's worth with the C-141.
they did, for sure, after Desert Storm it was thoroughly worn out.
to be sure, LOL, they worked it harder than a 57 Chevy truck all it was missing was the large cloth dice hanging from the whiskey compass and pom poms around the windows.
Many jumps from one , 82nd 3/325
I repaired leaking fuel tanks , mostly on the leading edge on C141s from 1966 to late 68 at Travis AFB . it was a fun job because of the lack of supervision . the area was considered hazardous due to explosion possibility from sparks near or in the tanks so no higher brass was allowed inside of the work zone . the lowly airmen were the boss. 😂 silly and petty ? yes but fun .
A beautiful lady of a cargo plane
It was a nice airplane, not as sexy as a fighter but you got to see a lot of the world, off the tourist trails in it. and work with a lot of great people with a crew that included a copilot, two engineers, and sometimes depending on the mission two loadmasters.
Flew home from VN 68’ A model
spent a thousand hours in the A model before the B model showed up. retired with 7300 hours in the airplane as an instructor
0:06 sounds like the crj 200
McGuire💪🏻🤘🏻
438th.... McGoo!!!!!