I have to say $199 is pretty steep at a first glance, but I think that the peace of mind knowing that you're preventing a possible catastrophic and expensive failure makes it more than worth it. Just ordered mine.
When we first talked about doing it, we thought about having them made in china, but wanted to have the best product we could, so we had them engineered and manufactured right here in the USA. Quality goes waaaay up, but unfortunately, the price does as well. Needless to say, it's an incredible insurance policy for the cost!
@@KiesMotorsports So I could use this instead of the full crank hub wtih 4 pins replacement? I have to replace my stock turbos because I'm having noise issues with them. My BMW dealer told me I need new turbos (just out of warranty, 4yr and only 16K miles!). they do make a loud rattle noise on start and when I cross a certain rpm range. I figured I could upgrade to something better like PureTurbos or Vargas GC since stock turbos are 6K for the pair anyway. But after doing research, I found out about the crank hub issue with the S55, especially on higher HP modified cars and that scares me. Any advice?
Nour do you remember you went to do the crank cup on your m4? So this seal is it better to do rather then the crank cup you did or both? The crank cup and seal? Which one?
Removing the fan is super easy (atleast on the n55) and it gives a lot more room to work with..did it for my oil cooler housing and filter gasket. Getting my pulleys and belt tomorow , might wait for the crank seal thing and then tackle tbis job, I’m at 130k
Bryan.. my namesake. I love you mate. I’ve been following you since you were just getting started. I love the spirit, the tenacity, the humility and the way you just look out for our community! You rock on dude! Just wanted to leave you this message in the hope that it brightens up your day a bit! Much love from Singapore.
That happened to me. 335i stick shift. Belt went inside my engine and it went all the way down to the oil tank, eventually got stuck into the filter funnel. Huge mess. I bought all the parts and fixed it myself. About 4 days by myself. Changed the head engine gasket as well since you have to open it up. I didn't add that cover since I didn't know about but I learned to keep the belt checked and dry. You can't go wrong with that. It takes some patient to work on that of you don't have a lifter. Thank you for you video. I also have am m4 and I have to install the hub crank myself since ppl are scared of that major flaw bimmer engineers messed up. I love bimmers and own 5 of them but damn. They are turning into a huge pain in the ass.
first problem i ever had with my N55 was the belt getting sucked into the crank case. luckily the guys over at turner motorsports were able to get all the pieces out of the oil pan and the engine wasn't broken. definitely got lucky
I will be getting one of these for piece of mind, but in all actuality you shouldn't need one if you make sure to keep an eye on the condition of your belt, associated components, and make sure to keep oil off the belt.
Awwwww MAN I cannot wait to get my cars to you guys. I'm waiting for parts now for my F82. Have a G82 on order I'm in Delaware, but Kies is the ONLY place I trust tuning my Ms.
I don’t know how this was accomplished without removing the fan and fan shroud. I tried for hours and it is really difficult. Once the fan shroud was removed (which is also a bit of a pain especially if you have a 6AT) it was simple access. One note do not drop you harmonic balancer/crank pulley like I did and take a chip out of it as it is $500-600 for a new one…
Very important to answer if crank seal guard interferes with crank bolt capture? We all know N54/N55/S55 have another catastrophic flaw with the crank hub, and aftermarket crank bolt capture is critical to have.
Installed on my M235i, i ended up removing the fan for easier access. Also put my GoPro down there and cast to my phone to see the 8 bolts and tigten in sequence. The bolts for the guard are different than on the video. They are round with a hex head. I could not get the socket to fit and definately nonroom for my torque wrench. I had to tighten using an allen wrench. 22ish NM without a wrench.
Nice product I had my belt come off due to ps bolts coming loose on my N54. I was fortunate it happened at start up not under load got the belt chunks behind pulley with a pick tool.
Hello @KiesMotorsports , I have a stock F80 M3 CS from 2018. I don't plan on modding it, it's a daily drive car, not for track, sometimes more aggressive on highways with some down shifts. Should I be worried about crank hub? Cheers
recently just got a 13 355i, plan on doing all the belt stuff, plugs ex... including this little easy part to install for piece of mind. But has no one made a Balancer with a larger lip so it couldn't ride off? Regardless thanks for all the videos. I have learned A LOT in 3 days lol. cheers.
Change you oil filter gasket make sure no oil leaks on the belt and change the belt also if you don’t have the money to buy the crank seal I bought my one for my n55 I need to put it on just in case tho but yeah do preventative maintenance on your BMW
Excellent idea! Does anyone know if this would fit the N52/N51? I believe the front crank seal/hub design is the same as the N54. If it fits I have 3 cars that will likely need them, thanks!
My n54 did just that. Dropped the pan to clean it which is a pricy job. Wasn’t good enough and spun a bearing. Torn between getting a 440 and an m4 right now
Can this happen on an M57 Diesel engine? I shredded my AC Belt (not the main Serp) and a mechanic said that he would have to open my engine and the oil pan to verify that the seal wasn't broken.....I picked my car up!
Is it recommended we install a Crank Bolt Capture for a N55 while installing the crankshaft cover? I heard a Crank Bolt Capture is recommended for a S55 engine.
I am debating on doing this... should i wait until i need to do the OFHG? My 15 335i only has 28k miles currently.... also do you sell a 3.5 bar tmap sensor? don't see it on the site, and any chance of getting more Dongles in stock for bimmercode/bm3 seems like the main one is out of stock.
I have a n52 and I fixed my oil filter housing gasket leak. Also put a new belt, should I still be concern about my belt getting sucked in? Same with my s55 I work on my own cars and I’m always inspecting my cars very often to catch any problems. If I catch the leak and fix it ASAP then I should really need this part then right?
Have you tuned a x5 50i F15 I’ve been having lots of problems trying to flash but leaves my dme Locked out and have to send it to benched unlocked again then same problem stock 2016 never been tuned using bm3 any advice
Looks great! I used a generic Eb@y guard and it wasn’t too bad. Question though. It looks like your guard relies on the front main seal being pressed in pretty far . Aren’t they normally pressed in only a bit past flush?? I would be afraid folks are going to pressing on an already sealed front main seal?
I’ve seen N55 front crank seals and they are recessed pretty far into the crank cylinder by the factory. I assume the factory specified tools for the job set the seal at the same depth. So the issue you mentioned I would imagine could only occur if someone replaced the front seal without using the correct tool and not to factory specifications.
$200??? BMW would be proud. Definitely buying one though, looks like it has a very high quality to it, and $200 is a small price to pay versus a $4k rebuild. Nice work!
No need to remove the fan, especially since the coolant lines get in the way. Underneath does give you better positioning when locking in the guard and starting the bolts on the harmonic balancer.
@@FritzRamos is it mandatory to remove the tensioner? When I replaced it the bolts seemed somewhat stripped so I don’t really want to take it off again
Belt started squeaking on the way home, watched this and my belt snapped while I was watching the video. Hoping to god it didn’t get sucked in. Any advice? I’m 23 and in my last year of college, being worried that it was sucked in is the last thing I need right now. Car is a 2014 BMM 535ix GT. Please help
I have to say $199 is pretty steep at a first glance, but I think that the peace of mind knowing that you're preventing a possible catastrophic and expensive failure makes it more than worth it. Just ordered mine.
When we first talked about doing it, we thought about having them made in china, but wanted to have the best product we could, so we had them engineered and manufactured right here in the USA. Quality goes waaaay up, but unfortunately, the price does as well. Needless to say, it's an incredible insurance policy for the cost!
@@KiesMotorsports You made the right choice. I couldn't be happier.
@@KiesMotorsports Made in the USA? good stuff more people have to start giving jobs to Americans not dirt cheap shoddy labor from China
@@KiesMotorsports So I could use this instead of the full crank hub wtih 4 pins replacement? I have to replace my stock turbos because I'm having noise issues with them. My BMW dealer told me I need new turbos (just out of warranty, 4yr and only 16K miles!). they do make a loud rattle noise on start and when I cross a certain rpm range. I figured I could upgrade to something better like PureTurbos or Vargas GC since stock turbos are 6K for the pair anyway. But after doing research, I found out about the crank hub issue with the S55, especially on higher HP modified cars and that scares me. Any advice?
199 or 1099?
Can't believe you manage to do this job without removing the fan, good dexterity, good job.
That small wrench is clutch! lol
I was promoting the heck out of this, HELL YEA!!! Ima need one of these for all my cars 😂
Nour do you remember you went to do the crank cup on your m4? So this seal is it better to do rather then the crank cup you did or both? The crank cup and seal? Which one?
@@PureGamingpro For S55 engine in the M4 the Crank Hub is more prone to failure, N55/N54 is where this problem is most prevalent.
Fantastic work guys, LOVE seeing you directly develop your own products that are superior to the rest of the market! Well done!
Thank you!
Removing the fan is super easy (atleast on the n55) and it gives a lot more room to work with..did it for my oil cooler housing and filter gasket. Getting my pulleys and belt tomorow , might wait for the crank seal thing and then tackle tbis job, I’m at 130k
Bryan.. my namesake. I love you mate. I’ve been following you since you were just getting started. I love the spirit, the tenacity, the humility and the way you just look out for our community! You rock on dude! Just wanted to leave you this message in the hope that it brightens up your day a bit! Much love from Singapore.
I had this problem twice on my n54! Definitely a must have!!
What an awesome prophylactic! An inexpensive way to prevent very bad things from happening to my N55! Guess this makes Kies the Walgreens for my BMW!
Wow. This is one of the steps to make a bulletproof engine. Nicely done
That happened to me. 335i stick shift. Belt went inside my engine and it went all the way down to the oil tank, eventually got stuck into the filter funnel. Huge mess.
I bought all the parts and fixed it myself. About 4 days by myself. Changed the head engine gasket as well since you have to open it up. I didn't add that cover since I didn't know about but I learned to keep the belt checked and dry. You can't go wrong with that.
It takes some patient to work on that of you don't have a lifter.
Thank you for you video.
I also have am m4 and I have to install the hub crank myself since ppl are scared of that major flaw bimmer engineers messed up.
I love bimmers and own 5 of them but damn. They are turning into a huge pain in the ass.
first problem i ever had with my N55 was the belt getting sucked into the crank case. luckily the guys over at turner motorsports were able to get all the pieces out of the oil pan and the engine wasn't broken. definitely got lucky
Did you have a leaky ofhg
Very nice tutorial! Harmonic balance piece is the toughest part because you are shooting in the dark with the E10s.
Blessing us BMW enthusiasts as always. Hope you, the family, and the Kies crew are all well my man!
I will be getting one of these for piece of mind, but in all actuality you shouldn't need one if you make sure to keep an eye on the condition of your belt, associated components, and make sure to keep oil off the belt.
Just ordered and received mine! Great quality build
Where can I order Mina? I was searching in the website but i haven’t found it yet. Can you help me with this please?
Will this work for the N52 engine?
Awwwww MAN I cannot wait to get my cars to you guys. I'm waiting for parts now for my F82. Have a G82 on order I'm in Delaware, but Kies is the ONLY place I trust tuning my Ms.
Your videos are so much better now than when you first started. I think you sold me on this belt exclusion device for the harmonic balancer.
I don’t know how this was accomplished without removing the fan and fan shroud. I tried for hours and it is really difficult. Once the fan shroud was removed (which is also a bit of a pain especially if you have a 6AT) it was simple access. One note do not drop you harmonic balancer/crank pulley like I did and take a chip out of it as it is $500-600 for a new one…
Very important to answer if crank seal guard interferes with crank bolt capture? We all know N54/N55/S55 have another catastrophic flaw with the crank hub, and aftermarket crank bolt capture is critical to have.
Was there an answer to this
Installed on my M235i, i ended up removing the fan for easier access. Also put my GoPro down there and cast to my phone to see the 8 bolts and tigten in sequence. The bolts for the guard are different than on the video. They are round with a hex head. I could not get the socket to fit and definately nonroom for my torque wrench. I had to tighten using an allen wrench. 22ish NM without a wrench.
Does this also help prevent crank pulley wobble?
These look good! big help to those that tend to overlook or choose to ignore oil leaks 😅
Can this be add to N52?
Maybe I missed it in the video but can we reuse the harmonic balancer bolts?
Wow I’m about to build a n55 out of the car and I didn’t even think about this until you took off the balancer
Can this be installed with a CRANK BOLT CAPTURE Kit?
I saw the quality and fell in love!!!!
SHARP THATS A GOOD LOOKING PART YOU GOT THERE BOY
Dumb question, but is the engine salvageable if the Crank hub spins?
Will it work on all e90s? Like n51, n52?
Can you have this guard and a crank bolt capture?
Awesome work. Curious how do you initially learn the torque spec for all the bolts?
Quality product and quality video per Kies standard.
You guys are awesome ! With the install videos ! ❤
Made that look easy! Especially with the fan still in. Definitely getting this! Thank you 🙌🏼
Clever neon light bar mounting off the hood :)
Nice product I had my belt come off due to ps bolts coming loose on my N54. I was fortunate it happened at start up not under load got the belt chunks behind pulley with a pick tool.
Did u install this?
Does not fit the N54, I had to get it machined by a local shop, however, great quality but I don't recommend getting if you have an N54.
Awesome! Going to order one right now, as well as the crank bolt capture.
Hello @KiesMotorsports , I have a stock F80 M3 CS from 2018. I don't plan on modding it, it's a daily drive car, not for track, sometimes more aggressive on highways with some down shifts. Should I be worried about crank hub? Cheers
Does this help prevent the crank hub from spinning??
can do a video for n47 f30 engine crank pulley replacements?
You definitely unlocked an achievement for getting those 8 screws out without dropping any
Ha, VICTORYYYYYYYY
What is the metallurgy of the supplier bolts?
recently just got a 13 355i, plan on doing all the belt stuff, plugs ex... including this little easy part to install for piece of mind. But has no one made a Balancer with a larger lip so it couldn't ride off? Regardless thanks for all the videos. I have learned A LOT in 3 days lol. cheers.
What if your not leaking oil or coolant and you change your tensioner and belt?
so basically the oil filter housing/cooler lines or upper radiator hose could leak onto the belt and cause it to walk off?
Yep, that's exactly what happens
Does the vargos spin lock
Solution fix this problem?
I have an N54 in my E60 535xi. Your video shows the guard fitting an N54 but your website says it will not fit the N54 in an e-series. Which is true?
Change you oil filter gasket make sure no oil leaks on the belt and change the belt also if you don’t have the money to buy the crank seal I bought my one for my n55 I need to put it on just in case tho but yeah do preventative maintenance on your BMW
I’m looking for an N54 version. What makes it no longer compatible 😢
Would you know if the newest BMW models are equipped with some kind of guard, like yours? Or not?
Is there any for the n26 engine
Excellent idea! Does anyone know if this would fit the N52/N51? I believe the front crank seal/hub design is the same as the N54. If it fits I have 3 cars that will likely need them, thanks!
How can one thumb down a video like this? Thank you, Bryan. This is good stuff.
Will this apply for the b58 engine as well in the market for a n55 or b58
What about n52 will guard fit
So I have a 70k 5 series and the engineers at bmw couldn't come up with this on their own?
Unfortunately I didn't do this and now I'm up for a complete rebuild or replacement on my n55 in my 435i. It hurts
So no issues with b58 engine?
is there any eta to the restock on these? been keeping an eye on it for a min but haven't seen them in stock
Glad I have the N47 diesel.. I can fit at least 1 dead body around the engine. So much easier to work on.
My n54 did just that. Dropped the pan to clean it which is a pricy job. Wasn’t good enough and spun a bearing. Torn between getting a 440 and an m4 right now
Do I have to get new bolts for the pulley or can I reuse the ones I took off???
Can this happen on an M57 Diesel engine? I shredded my AC Belt (not the main Serp) and a mechanic said that he would have to open my engine and the oil pan to verify that the seal wasn't broken.....I picked my car up!
Is it recommended we install a Crank Bolt Capture for a N55 while installing the crankshaft cover? I heard a Crank Bolt Capture is recommended for a S55 engine.
I am debating on doing this... should i wait until i need to do the OFHG? My 15 335i only has 28k miles currently.... also do you sell a 3.5 bar tmap sensor? don't see it on the site, and any chance of getting more Dongles in stock for bimmercode/bm3 seems like the main one is out of stock.
I have a n52 and I fixed my oil filter housing gasket leak. Also put a new belt, should I still be concern about my belt getting sucked in? Same with my s55 I work on my own cars and I’m always inspecting my cars very often to catch any problems. If I catch the leak and fix it ASAP then I should really need this part then right?
Absolutely awesome piece of kit Bryan 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Do the B46/B48 engines need to be worried about this issue as well?
Why does you site not list it for n54 or e series?
I was wondering the same thing
Are they eventually going to come in different colors?
You won’t ever see it, so why does it matter? Lol
What’s up Brian I’m from Patterson California and I’m thinking on doing my crank hub any recommendations?
Have you tuned a x5 50i F15 I’ve been having lots of problems trying to flash but leaves my dme Locked out and have to send it to benched unlocked again then same problem stock 2016 never been tuned using bm3 any advice
Your website currently only showing a "pre-order" status. What do you see for an availability date??
Why is it not compatible with n54 and N55E?
How long would you say this takes to do?
Oil cooler leaks on the belt and could make alternator fail?
I'm getting this, It's very important.
How do i order!
Make one for the N52
doesnt need it
Will this work for b46?
Its nice having the engine out of the car to work on!! 👍
@Kies Motorsports - does this work with an e90 n55 engine?
No, I’m sorry it does not
Looks great! I used a generic Eb@y guard and it wasn’t too bad. Question though. It looks like your guard relies on the front main seal being pressed in pretty far . Aren’t they normally pressed in only a bit past flush?? I would be afraid folks are going to pressing on an already sealed front main seal?
I’ve seen N55 front crank seals and they are recessed pretty far into the crank cylinder by the factory. I assume the factory specified tools for the job set the seal at the same depth. So the issue you mentioned I would imagine could only occur if someone replaced the front seal without using the correct tool and not to factory specifications.
Does it fit e8x n54? And you should make a blue one !! I want one
Does the fan need to be removed for install on the N54?
makes it easier since you’ll have more room to play
If you have a 1/4 ratchet or a 1 in 3/8 extension you don't need to remove it.
Honestly I love bmw but these stories make me want to go back and buy an RCF for comfort feeling of no more issues on the car
Great work Brian! Just curious if you have seen any crankhub failures in the n55. I have pretty much only seen issues with the s55
Cmon, make one for the n52!
totally different engine
What about N52 engine ?
the belt can walk off, simply monitor and change the belt and tensioner
$200??? BMW would be proud. Definitely buying one though, looks like it has a very high quality to it, and $200 is a small price to pay versus a $4k rebuild. Nice work!
Can you not remove the fan to get more room? and do this from under the car? i just bought car last month so wondering?
No need to remove the fan, especially since the coolant lines get in the way. Underneath does give you better positioning when locking in the guard and starting the bolts on the harmonic balancer.
@@FritzRamos is it mandatory to remove the tensioner? When I replaced it the bolts seemed somewhat stripped so I don’t really want to take it off again
Can this work for a f10 2015??
Belt started squeaking on the way home, watched this and my belt snapped while I was watching the video. Hoping to god it didn’t get sucked in. Any advice? I’m 23 and in my last year of college, being worried that it was sucked in is the last thing I need right now. Car is a 2014 BMM 535ix GT. Please help
Mate that’s sick !
COVID?
What about the N52?
Daum he made that look easy...
Honest question here...has anyone still spun there crank hub on an S55 after one of these has been installed?