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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2020
  • The Tank Museum's Archive and Library Manager Stuart Wheeler presents this Tank Chat Special on the Pak 43/41. Find out the history behind the infamous anti-tank gun and the story behind how it came to be in The Tank Museum's collection - from it's time as a gate-guard, to its restoration, and finally it's display in the Museum.
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  • @snaakie
    @snaakie 3 года назад +1615

    This should be called anti-tank chats lol

    • @bulletsalad3927
      @bulletsalad3927 3 года назад +7

      that is a good idea!

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 3 года назад +2

      Good one!

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 3 года назад +26

      Dad Joke, First Warning Card! Watch it Laddie.

    • @someguy2741
      @someguy2741 3 года назад +7

      Tank Museum Anti-Tank Tank Chats?

    • @Joel-tv2tt
      @Joel-tv2tt 3 года назад +4

      This is actually a really good idea for a spin-off of sorts.

  • @Dick-Dastardly
    @Dick-Dastardly 3 года назад +674

    Don't recall seeing Stuart before. He speaks very naturally and well making a very informative and interesting presentation, thankyou.

    • @7StarsMA
      @7StarsMA 3 года назад +20

      He totally knows his stuff, inside out. Very impressive. Now if they can get him to look at the camera!

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 3 года назад +20

      True, but i did have to stick a bushy white false moustache onto my screen to watch the whole video, because it was still not quite right on a basic level

    • @budwyzer77
      @budwyzer77 3 года назад +8

      Is it too late to change his name to David?

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 3 года назад +9

      Good dude with solid speaking skills and information. No distractions

    • @ericgrace9995
      @ericgrace9995 3 года назад +10

      Like the guy...he's good. Hope he does more ( and it looks like he bought a new shirt for this !)

  • @civilprotection3114
    @civilprotection3114 3 года назад +295

    I can’t thank the guys enough who went through 5 years to bring this price of history back the way it was and preserving history.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 3 года назад +3

      You're damm right you can't thank them enough for that. Your thanks won't feed them and pay their rent for 5 years.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад +13

      @@touristguy87 hello Karen...

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 3 года назад +1

      @@SonsOfLorgar ...wut?

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 3 года назад +3

      @@touristguy87 wtf bro

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 3 года назад

      @@v44n7 5 years of action vs 5 seconds of talk...think about it

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine Год назад +16

    Whether you're pro-tank or anti-tank, this channel has everything.

  • @spellcaster39ify
    @spellcaster39ify 3 года назад +244

    The most effective AT gun, at the end of the war weighed almost as much as the Panzer I tank did at the start of the war. 4.3t vs 5.4t. If that doesn't encapsulate a mad decade of weapon evolution, nothing does.

    • @nastypiglosi1788
      @nastypiglosi1788 Год назад +10

      The 88 was overkill for 95% of tanks
      The 75 gave the best bang for the buck. It was cheaper, lighter, and more ammo could be stored and transported.

    • @marchellochiovelli7259
      @marchellochiovelli7259 10 месяцев назад

      A kill is a kill. This way they won't twitch when it's all over. @@nastypiglosi1788

    • @sheeplord4976
      @sheeplord4976 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, but what happens when you meet that 5% of tanks designed specifically to beat the Pak 40?

    • @jpmtlhead39
      @jpmtlhead39 8 месяцев назад

      At the end of the war any tank allied or german Weight several Times the Weight of the panzer l ,as many other Weapons .

    • @ToddiusMaximus
      @ToddiusMaximus 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@nastypiglosi1788better safe then sorry I guess

  • @ericgrace9995
    @ericgrace9995 3 года назад +414

    Many tank commanders saw the destruction of anti-tank guns as more important than the destruction of enemy tanks.
    A well dug in and camouflaged anti-tank gun is practically invisible to a closed down tank, and getting off the first shot would usually win the contest. Enemy tanks were seen as less of a threat by commanders.

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 3 года назад +47

      True, that's why internet arguments about which tank is better annoy me because it's not relevant to what threats tanks actually had to contend with

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 3 года назад +84

      A good camouflaged and operated gun like this could ruin the day of lots of tank crews.
      What a sniper is for an infantry soldier is the anti tankgun for a tanker.
      feared and hated the most.

    • @SDeww
      @SDeww 3 года назад +38

      a good example of this was the german tank ace micheal wittmann, he feared anti tank guns more than tanks.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc 3 года назад +148

      @@apis_aculei The problem was the American's couldn't make enough Brad Pitts to armour every Sherman.

    • @Assassinus2
      @Assassinus2 3 года назад +26

      ptonpc If only the Allied arsenals could have kept up with the demand for plot armor, things would’ve been different.
      Maybe. One weakness of plot armor is that it’ll fail whenever it deems the situation to be sufficiently dramatic.
      This is similar to the problems the German “Deus Ex Machina” program ran into, which was also prone to narrative-driven failures. In this case, I think the point being made was one about the dangers of hubris. And maybe a little bit about not being an asshat, though that fails to explain the fate of Stalin during the war. I theorize one factor in play here was the state of Soviet drama.

  • @Vanta_Blue
    @Vanta_Blue 3 года назад +148

    That did not feel like a 20min lecture. That was amazing. Hat's off.

  • @idanceforpennies281
    @idanceforpennies281 3 года назад +154

    One of Rommels' absolute favourite tactics which he used in France and the Western Desert was to use his "retreating" Panzers to lure Allied tanks into a kill zone of anti-tank guns. The zone was often protected on its flanks by mines, creating a box.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 3 года назад +31

      Rommel wasn't the only one to use it, pretty mutch all axis tank commanders figured out early on british doctrine was to charge enemy tanks with their own, making them incredibly easy to lure into traps. the british eventually changed their doctrine as a result.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 3 года назад +5

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 ...sure if you have traps *set*...and aren't caught by surprise...and the enemy stays in the trap once they figure it out. As opposed to finding the trap first and then laying waste to your AT guns.

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 3 года назад +6

      Thats why Rommel was retreating thru 1500km of North Africa?

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 3 года назад +32

      @@Paciat unlike the British, Rommel had to retreat to where he had fuel for his armor

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 3 года назад +7

      ​@@touristguy87 And unlike Rommel British had to attack where they had no fuel for their armor. You would expect that Germany that started arming for WWII in 1933 would have better logistics and strategic planing.
      Supply run out and Germans became as brave as Italians.

  • @EeekiE
    @EeekiE 2 года назад +25

    This channel is run so well. Even the understandable and justified asking for support is delicately and tastefully brought up.
    Next time I’m back in the UK I’m spending a long day here and returning with goodies of all kinds.

  • @thomascampbell4730
    @thomascampbell4730 3 года назад +81

    I restored a Soviet Zis-3 Soviet made artillery piece that was also in wretched condition. Lots of work but I loved every minute of it. I then did the lions share of the work on the SP mount, the Su-76 "Suka." The SP was an enormous amount of work having been left out in the weather since it was captured in Korea. Apparently it had been abandoned by the NKPA because a white star had been painted over the original red star. It had run over a mine and was slightly damaged (probably an AP mine) but the oil pan on #1 engine was breached and the engine seized up. USMC Air Ground Museum in Quantico, VA is where she rests now.

    • @spellcaster39ify
      @spellcaster39ify 3 года назад +2

      Very cool story. Lol @ the SU-76 nickname and what it means in Russian :)

    • @thomascampbell4730
      @thomascampbell4730 3 года назад +4

      @@spellcaster39ify Odd, My dad worked at Republic Aviation as a final inspection crew chief on the F-105 Thunderchief. Thanks for the comment.

  • @Biend
    @Biend 3 года назад +25

    Who is this man!? He's so into it, just completely zoned in. Stuart has that David Fletcher vibe.

  • @wankertosseroath
    @wankertosseroath 3 года назад +47

    I can't even imagine what a t-34 at 2500m would look like, they must have had some serious optics. Also liked the account of the t-34 engine block flying out the back, thats just mental.

    • @marcuswardle3180
      @marcuswardle3180 3 года назад +9

      T-34 Tank Commander: Ivan, step on it, I think that anti-tank gun is firing at us!
      Ivan: I will when you put some more linkages to the engine back there!

    • @sadielsantos8167
      @sadielsantos8167 3 года назад +14

      They had Zeiss Telescopic Sights , they were very clear and quite zeroed , if it was an experienced gunner with calm nerves, yes it was possible to make that shot that far and cause that huge damage .

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 3 года назад +12

      A T-34 in over 2000m is not that dangerous, so they have time to aim.

    • @Athrun82
      @Athrun82 3 года назад +3

      I read about the King Tiger that mounted this gun that there are accounts of the shot ripping of the entire turret of T34's at 3000 meters (I think). According to statistics the to-hit ratio in combat for the King tiger was 89% at 1.000 meters ( in training it was supposedly 100% at 1.000 meters). So the Germans didn't waste much ammo with this gun (plus he optics of course)

    • @erloriel
      @erloriel 3 года назад +6

      2500m is certainly a distance, but not really that far against a target like a tank. On the open field the tanks were not that fast and would usually not be manouvring wildly. So a good crew could certainly take that shot with a reasonable chance of success. Next time you're driving through a hilly region with good lines of sight, try to estimate 2km distance and look at your distance. It might surprise you how "close" 2km is.

  • @KeithJohnson.
    @KeithJohnson. 3 года назад +66

    I’d bet that Stuart is ex-Army, his phrasing, pacing and intonation gives it away. Great Anti-Tank talk, tons of detail, great overall picture, best museum in the world by miles.

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 3 года назад +1

      I can see that

    • @zulubeatz1
      @zulubeatz1 3 года назад +3

      I agree. I thought the same

    • @jamedmurphy4468
      @jamedmurphy4468 7 месяцев назад

      Yep, that is how we talk, those that have worn the green...no umms...just controlled a pause

  • @Sturminfantrist
    @Sturminfantrist 3 года назад +72

    exellent Chat and a PAK in perfect restored condition thx to Tank Museum.

    • @wolski45
      @wolski45 3 года назад +7

      And to think it all started with an old "gate guardian" just rusting away.

  • @widehotep9257
    @widehotep9257 3 года назад +5

    Design of the Tiger II started in 1943 as a heavy, break-out tank for offensive operations. By the time it was rolling off assembly lines in 1945, it was being thrown into chaotic, defensive engagements for which it was never intended. Due to a chronic manpower shortage, many of the tank crews in 1945 were young and poorly trained. Under less lopsided conditions, the King Tiger would have been a much more successful tank than it was.

  • @actonman7291
    @actonman7291 3 года назад +97

    What an absolute beast of a gun for that period.

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads 3 года назад +2

      I dont think id like it shooting at me now with some modern munitions

    • @hushpuppy1735
      @hushpuppy1735 3 года назад

      I have some questions, it has wheels yet it seems like you cant move it...how do you move such a thing?

    • @paavobergmann4920
      @paavobergmann4920 3 года назад +1

      @@hushpuppy1735 with lots of horses. Actually, that´s what they did in many cases.

    • @chapiit08
      @chapiit08 3 года назад +1

      @@sugarnads Or with any kind of ammunition indeed.

  • @stephen9869
    @stephen9869 3 года назад +8

    Thank you, I have been waiting years for this. Amazingly there seems to be no other quality documentaries on the whole of YT about this.

  • @11Kralle
    @11Kralle 3 года назад +38

    In colloquial german the 'Scheunentor' ("barn-door") is a desriptive term for a target, nobody could miss.

    • @wetlettuce4768
      @wetlettuce4768 3 года назад +16

      So the broad side of a barn for most of us English speakers.

    • @alaric_
      @alaric_ 3 года назад +7

      For germans, barn door is target that cannot be missed. For americans, it's the whole damn barn..
      Hmm... :D

    • @carltorjusen558
      @carltorjusen558 3 года назад

      the germans use say that the soviet tank gunners could not hit a barn door with the first 2 or 3 rounds without them being knocked out..LOL

    • @jossiehoogwerffie624
      @jossiehoogwerffie624 2 года назад

      camouflage and concealment became second nature to them

  • @maxrpm2215
    @maxrpm2215 3 года назад +25

    One of the best videos I've watched on German anti tank gun development. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺

    • @threadworm437
      @threadworm437 3 года назад +2

      Nice JG52 profile picture

    • @maxrpm2215
      @maxrpm2215 3 года назад +2

      @@threadworm437 Joachim Peiper 👍

    • @hikingjoe4752
      @hikingjoe4752 7 месяцев назад

      @maxrpm2215 yo I’ve just built a 1/72 Modell of a German starfighter and it has the same red black badge with the sword on its tail as your profile pic.

    • @maxrpm2215
      @maxrpm2215 7 месяцев назад

      @@hikingjoe4752 nice, its JG52 insignia from WW2.
      What model kit?

    • @hikingjoe4752
      @hikingjoe4752 7 месяцев назад

      @@maxrpm2215 Its Revell 03904, F104G Starfighter. I looked it up, the version i chose to do (theres different specific aircraft you can choose from, in this case 2, depending on the decals you use) is Serial 7304, from JaboGeschwader 33, Büchel. I looked it up apparently lots of older WW2 veterans were in there which is why they used this insignia. I always see the insignia when im looking at my shelf where the starfighter sits xD.

  • @Kerotana
    @Kerotana 3 года назад +52

    Stuart doing a great job with this video!

  • @foxtrotromeo25
    @foxtrotromeo25 3 года назад +8

    The restoration of this magnificent weapon is stunning. Saw it at Tiger Day 10 and was given a demo by some of the Museum staff. If they had ammo for it, it's fully operational!

  • @Musketeer009
    @Musketeer009 3 года назад +45

    I saw this gun at Tiger Day. Until then, I hadn't realised how big the PaK 43/41 was. Thanks for diverting to telling us about Panzer abwehr Kanonen. Will we get something similar for UK, US and USSR anti-tank guns?

  • @nicholasdiehl7368
    @nicholasdiehl7368 3 года назад

    I love your support for the best of history and saving all the things that historically are needed to keep the history alive

  • @superkupanemo7357
    @superkupanemo7357 3 года назад +3

    I'm a bit late for the party, so to speak, but just after watching this piece I can surely say that it's one of the best vid you got here. First of all - it's so constructed to answer all (for me at least) possible questions about the origins, usage, pros, cons and characteristics that would come to mind. Also, Mr Stuart got this ease of speaking (or shall we say: the flow?) that is pleasant to hear and at the same time condensed and informative as it can be. And, by the way, it proves that you Gents in the Tank Museum, are remarkably wise and smart people.
    As a Polish (obviously not English-primary speaker) I have the pleasure to hear your magnificent British accent and so the Tank Chats are one of best yt videos I can find.
    I wish your your collection will be growing as my favourite collections of videos will not end to appear on the sub bell ;)
    All the best from Poland.

  • @MrLense
    @MrLense 3 года назад +4

    Will be visiting this weekend, pretty excited!

  • @anthonylee6322
    @anthonylee6322 3 года назад +3

    If i ever win a lottery here across the pond . I'll send your museum a large donation. History is priceless and we need to keep it .

  • @Geoduck.
    @Geoduck. 3 года назад

    Kudos to Library Manager Wheeler very well presented sir. I worked as a Machinist for over 40 years and greatly appreciate the amazing craftsmanship put into this beast of an anti tank gun. Someday we would like to visit England and view the Tank Museum.

  • @ritchie799
    @ritchie799 3 года назад +4

    Again, detail packed and very interesting video with brilliant presentation from Stuart.
    Thank you.

  • @SzefMlynu
    @SzefMlynu 3 года назад +11

    Stuart you're great! 19 minutes like a blink of an eye :)

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 3 года назад +3

    Appreciate you guys keeping us going during COVID. Thank you 👍

  • @steve1315
    @steve1315 3 года назад

    Very good talk , clear and confident speaker . Looking forward to seeing Stuart again.

  • @sophrapsune
    @sophrapsune Год назад +1

    This anti-tank series has been really superb, thanks.

  • @ginvr
    @ginvr 3 года назад +21

    What an excellent chat. Do we have a new rising star? The museum is full of such interesting people!

  • @dyu8184
    @dyu8184 3 года назад +6

    Wow that thing is an absolute unit! The Pak 44 must be gigantic!

    • @HerrGausF
      @HerrGausF 3 года назад +1

      You bet it was: nonsolopanzer.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/42-krupp-pak-44.jpg

  • @craigmorgan8493
    @craigmorgan8493 3 года назад

    Not seen this guy before, but very knowledgeable without confuddling the viewer. I enjoyed that, thanks.

  • @vonsopas
    @vonsopas 3 года назад +14

    His passion and commitment is very inspiring, thanks for this chats, bloody interesting. Cheers!

  • @zulubeatz1
    @zulubeatz1 3 года назад +4

    Very good presentation. This guys pretty cool which makes me feel less of a war nerd because i love this stuff.

  • @hudsondonnell444
    @hudsondonnell444 3 года назад +6

    When I was growing up in Canberra Australia, the custodians of the Australian War Memorial museum had the pieces that were kept outside in the elements painted on a regular basis to keep them from corroding in the elements.

  • @randeldaniel5437
    @randeldaniel5437 Месяц назад

    That’s amazing how good of a job y’all did restoring 👍

  • @mrfr0st7
    @mrfr0st7 3 года назад +1

    Mr Wheeler does a grand job presenting a lot of historical information in good form.

  • @haroldellis9721
    @haroldellis9721 3 года назад +3

    Fantastic presentation. Thank you.

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 3 года назад +7

    The muzzle brake is designed to also divert the blast away from the ground so as to not kick up a HUGE. cloud of dust that would obscure the view of follow up shots

    • @MothaLuva
      @MothaLuva 3 года назад +2

      ...plus, prematurely reveal the guns position...

  • @marrs1013
    @marrs1013 3 года назад

    Quality material as always. Excellent presentation, Mr Wheeler, welcome aboard!

  • @aleccrombie7923
    @aleccrombie7923 8 месяцев назад

    That explains why this gun is so tall. Thanks for the technical detail. Excellent video!

  • @silence3994
    @silence3994 3 года назад +3

    As always... really great video.
    I learned alot and i hope to visit the Museum someday :)
    Greetings from Germany

  • @WightKnight
    @WightKnight 3 года назад +8

    Funny to think he did this video, then shortly after when outside to give a longer version of this talk to a live audience!

  • @phillipsmith4814
    @phillipsmith4814 3 года назад +1

    Two things you talked about that I am offering comments on. The first is the difficulty of concealing the gun. Yes it is bigger no doubt but it’s still much smaller than a tank. I will bet that it could easily be concealed in a house or small outbuilding or even under a camo net near a decent size tree or two.
    The second thing is in regards to barrel life. Especially later in the war I wonder just how many of these guns would have a chance to wear out the barrel, even at 500 rds, before they were destroyed or captured, especially in the western theater considering the massive allied air. I would think that with the lack of protection for the crew that one of these would not last long on the battlefield.
    Truly enjoyed your video and learned a lot. Thanks.

  • @heinwein421
    @heinwein421 3 месяца назад

    Incredible work, the guys who restored it are top notch as is the gun🫡❣️🙏

  • @Azerkeux
    @Azerkeux 3 года назад +8

    If you guys could do one on a PaK40 as well, I absolutely love that piece. Saw one fire a couple blank rounds at the General George Patton Musuem at Fort Knox, Kentucky many years ago during a reenactment.

    • @jpmtlhead39
      @jpmtlhead39 8 месяцев назад

      The Pak 40 was the most Successfull AT gun of the war.
      And when used on the Stug lll was just devastating.

  • @RDEnduro
    @RDEnduro 3 года назад +3

    What an effort, great work guys! It is ironic having antitank guns on a tank channel

  • @Ausf.D.A.K.
    @Ausf.D.A.K. 3 года назад +2

    I love these Anti-Tank chats !

  • @ContradictoryControlla
    @ContradictoryControlla 3 года назад

    The best bit of the chat - “it’s a big old beast”! Love it!

  • @Masada1911
    @Masada1911 3 года назад +6

    Interesting switch!

  • @frankwhite3406
    @frankwhite3406 3 года назад +6

    A most interesting and informative episode indeed , highly enjoyable thank you. Ps I believe they also managed to mount them on the Pak 43 Steyr-Krupp Waffentrager in the last few months of the War to give it , its own mobility . I believe the Russians still have an example in one of their Armour Museums.

  • @slartybartfarst55
    @slartybartfarst55 3 года назад

    Excellent Tank Chat. Totally informative but still concise. Really enjoyed it.

  • @MrLotrecht
    @MrLotrecht 3 года назад

    Great work on that Gun.This is a very nice reconstruktion.All staff could be very proud of their work! Thank you.

  • @1337LesPaul
    @1337LesPaul 3 года назад +5

    For anyone wondering, this is the same gun that was used on the King Tiger.

    • @domovoy9301
      @domovoy9301 3 года назад

      TIGER B (king tiger for brts) had a L70 88 with 1100m/s muzzle where as this is actually a L50 88 with only 900m/s muzzle

  • @ericgrace9995
    @ericgrace9995 3 года назад +60

    The British mounted the 17 PDR on the 25 PDR carriage as a stop gap measure to counter the Tiger in N Africa. It was called "The Pheasant"

    • @SDeww
      @SDeww 3 года назад +11

      no one know what 17 pounder is, englisgh are th eonly once using this measurement, and it is useless..

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 3 года назад +58

      @@SDeww He knows what it is, I know what it is, as does anyone with knowledge of artillery regardless of their nationality..

    • @chungusbooper
      @chungusbooper 3 года назад +41

      @@SDeww That's not true; it's also used in North America, to measure cheeseburger portions. :D

    • @hoogmonster
      @hoogmonster 3 года назад +25

      Call it the 76.2 mm AT gun then. Either way the 17 pounder was a very effective AT gun for the British, and a proper headache for the poor folks on the wrong end of it, whether you count in pounds or kilos.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +9

      @@hoogmonster or even "3 inch."

  • @chuckcanada4065
    @chuckcanada4065 2 года назад

    Love watching these guns fire! crazy!

  • @chuckcanada4065
    @chuckcanada4065 3 года назад

    Tank chats rule! Excellent presentation about this deadly anti tank gun! Keep em coming guys!

  • @wolfhound113
    @wolfhound113 3 года назад +7

    Great (anti-)tank chat special! Excellent presentation, very well thought out, excellent editing, great sound quality, great material, timely and relevant footage (historical and present).
    Will we be seeing more of Stuart Wheeler? I hope so!

  • @therealdoctom
    @therealdoctom 3 года назад +8

    The „door knocker“ is quite a rough translation of „Heeresanklopfgerät“, more appropriate would be „Army Knocking Device“. In German „Heeresanklopfgerät“ is full of sarcasm, resulting from the shock the German soldiers had facing T-34s and KV tanks they could not penetrate.

    • @trxnme2082
      @trxnme2082 3 года назад +1

      They'd already had the bad news in 39, Matilda II had upset a few PAK gunners during the battle for France.

    • @peterdammeliusosterode3424
      @peterdammeliusosterode3424 3 года назад +1

      Arméns dörrkläpp med andra ord. 😁

    • @cyvoc2316
      @cyvoc2316 3 года назад

      PAK = Panzer-Anklopf-Kanone ;)

  • @fredrickszahowski6154
    @fredrickszahowski6154 3 года назад +1

    Outstanding thanks for the history of how came about the designing of the gun.

  • @user-gl5kf9jh1y
    @user-gl5kf9jh1y 8 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic cannon, beautiful piece of history ❤ vielen dank 👍💖

  • @Rafa13725
    @Rafa13725 3 года назад +4

    ''if you do like theese tank chats''
    I love theese tank chats!
    thanks for the awesome content!

  • @CP1871
    @CP1871 3 года назад +31

    PaK 43/41: (Exists)
    Sherman commanders: "Why do I feel like I'm in someone's crosshairs?"

    • @fettionfetti9726
      @fettionfetti9726 3 года назад +3

      Sherman commander: “Why do I hear final boss music?”

    • @AKUJIVALDO
      @AKUJIVALDO 3 года назад

      Sherman commander: "Why I'm dead?"

    • @rictusmetallicus
      @rictusmetallicus 3 года назад

      Because you are

    • @rictusmetallicus
      @rictusmetallicus 3 года назад

      @@AKUJIVALDO because you didn't turn and run after hearing end boss music

  • @markroessler1584
    @markroessler1584 3 года назад

    Highly informative. Good work Stuart Wheeler !

  • @methanbreather
    @methanbreather 3 года назад +1

    that was a very good presentation. Easy to follow Mr Wheeler, even as a non native speaker. When the time was up, I was surprise that 19min went past so fast. Nice footage, good editing as well. I am hoping for more appearances of Mr Wheeler and I am hopeful to be able to support in the future (trying times for all of us).

  • @keithwalker2712
    @keithwalker2712 3 года назад +3

    9:26 allied indian troups by the look of them in italy ? ive seen footage of the in docs from monti cassino

  • @antimatter4444
    @antimatter4444 3 года назад +9

    We need to download Stuart's brain, holy cow...that was an amazing knowledge dump! Thank you Tank Museum and hope we all survive this nonsense.

  • @Schugger1
    @Schugger1 3 года назад +2

    Size comes at a cost: PAK 43 is really a beast of a gun and could only be tracked by SdKfz 6 or 7, the little bugger PAK 36 (Panzeranklopfkanone) was really versatile, mobile and could easily be camouflaged and with the Stielgranate 41 (a hollowcharges projectile) it was really efficient against all armor and short ranges.
    Fantastic lecture, really really enjoyed it. Hats off :)

    • @numberpirate
      @numberpirate Год назад +1

      PAK stands for panzer abwehr kanone. Panzer Anklopf kanone is slang for tank knocking canon.

  • @petergouldbourn2312
    @petergouldbourn2312 2 года назад

    What a brilliant lecture. I loved every second of it. 🇬🇧

  • @jellyorwhat3343
    @jellyorwhat3343 3 года назад +4

    Some facts coming up my mind watching the video:
    The PAK 43/41's nickname in the German army was 'Scheunentor' which can be translated as 'barn gate'. The nickname is actually way more precise than I expected.
    3:45 afaik the 13mm anti tank round is the ancestor of the .50 cartridge for the Browning M2.
    4:30 the PAK 35/36's had a little bit of edgy nickname. The abbreviation PAK means PanzerAbwehrKanone (TankDefenceGun) but it got called PanzerAnklopfGerät (Tank Door Knocking Device) because it being pretty inefficient in its actual anti tank role soon.
    Edit: Turned out, two of these facts get actually mentioned in the video at some point, but at least you got complemented the German words. :)

    • @SirDavid290
      @SirDavid290 2 года назад

      "Tank Door Knocking Device" That's hilarious !

    • @scavulous6336
      @scavulous6336 2 года назад

      13mm at round, did not inspire the .50 cal, just similar ideas at same time

  • @Alan.livingston
    @Alan.livingston 3 года назад +40

    Fast forward a few years and you see two Egyptian troops in the desert knocking out tanks at three klicks with guided missiles that come in a suitcase.

    • @jamieslingsby9907
      @jamieslingsby9907 3 года назад +1

      but costs several thousand money per missile. like the Javelin, each missile costs something like 100,000$

    • @thelastdruidofscotland
      @thelastdruidofscotland 3 года назад +3

      @@jamieslingsby9907 yeah, but no tankie afterwards jamie, almost a 100% kill ratio.

    • @MothaLuva
      @MothaLuva 3 года назад +3

      Ah, the good old Sagger...

    • @thenevadadesertrat2713
      @thenevadadesertrat2713 3 года назад +4

      After'43 the Germans had the $2,000 Panzerfaust able to knock out a $85,000 tank. Very good cost-benefit ratio.

    • @yevrahhipstar3902
      @yevrahhipstar3902 3 года назад

      @@jamieslingsby9907 How much per tank?

  • @pjnealon3476
    @pjnealon3476 3 года назад

    Great video. thanks for putting it together.

  • @iankerridge5720
    @iankerridge5720 3 года назад +1

    Wow, yet another Tank Museum Talented Personnel revealed. Great Video, and Hello Stuart. Hope you get to do more videos

  • @wilsonian89
    @wilsonian89 3 года назад +7

    wouldn't mind seeing one about the british 6lb, the 17lb stop gap (phesant) and the final 17lb - maybe even the 25lb :)

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 3 года назад

      And the US 90mm duel purpose, which for some reason usually gets forgotten.

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun771 3 года назад +13

    Generally good German pronunciation, too! Just remember we don't have the "th" lisping sound (except as a speech impediment). So even though words like "Panther" have a t and an h, we just say the "t" part out loud.

    • @spellcaster39ify
      @spellcaster39ify 3 года назад +1

      Tanks for te details. :)

    • @zhufortheimpaler4041
      @zhufortheimpaler4041 3 года назад

      yeah that did not hold long. the new anti tank chats video is an absolut massacre of pronounciation.....

  • @russwoodward7601
    @russwoodward7601 2 года назад

    This was very good. Great perspective. Thank you again.

  • @mitchmazerolle3168
    @mitchmazerolle3168 3 года назад

    Excellent talk! Thank-you!

  • @46FreddieMercury91
    @46FreddieMercury91 2 года назад +3

    I remember my dad telling me about the war, the German anti tank guns were like telegraph poles. I always thought he was exaggerating until i saw them myself.
    Dad was right

  • @scottyfox6376
    @scottyfox6376 3 года назад +6

    I'd be interested in comparing the 7.5cm Pak 40 to this.

    • @scavulous6336
      @scavulous6336 2 года назад

      140 odd mm of pen, vs 200 odd mm of pen, with less ricochet chance

  • @kineara4571
    @kineara4571 3 года назад +1

    This was incredibly interesting, really enjoyed listening to Stuart. Thanks for this!

    • @texx1985
      @texx1985 3 года назад +1

      It's a great place to visit. I went for a tank dat in 2019. I was sitting between a group of Russians and Germans who both laughed when the presenter was saying the best tanks were the british ones:)) Well worth a visit!

  • @nikovbn839
    @nikovbn839 3 года назад +2

    Bloody scary thing. Beautifully restored :)

  • @kireta21
    @kireta21 3 года назад +19

    With 3.5 t weight it must have been pain to move around. With Pak 40, all you need is a truck or infantry carrier, this thing would likely require actual artillery tractor just to get from point A to point B, nevermind even deploying it in rough terrain. Picking it up and turning by crew members, if enemy tanks appear outside of traverse limit of a gun, seem also out of question.

    • @jsd795
      @jsd795 3 года назад +2

      I can't remember the source, but believe it or not I have seen a photo of several Germans moving one into position on a hard surface. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 3 года назад

      Yeah once they're deployed they're not gonna be moved around, and if they're being moved around they're probably fooked. I figure it would take atleast 6 to 10 men to shunt it about any distance

    • @maade9642
      @maade9642 3 года назад +2

      @@jsd795 could be possible if the gun is properly balanced on the wheels and so the men "just" would have to lift the weight of the "feet" (sry I don't know the word for this thing in english). Like the German did with the Nebelwerfer for example.

    • @jsd795
      @jsd795 3 года назад +4

      @@maade9642 I wish I could remember were I saw that photo, but that is exactly how they were going about it, it also seems like there were two men on each wheel and they were using the holes in the wheel for leverage, at any rate it did not look fun

    • @wojo44frompl
      @wojo44frompl 3 года назад +1

      8.8 anti-aircraft guns also needed artillery tractor to tow.
      I can't even imagine what was needed to move 12.8 cm PaK...

  • @tasman006
    @tasman006 3 года назад +4

    He forgot one the 128mm on the Jagtiger which was next in line also as an anti tank gun during the very late stages of WW2.

  • @williamkennedy5492
    @williamkennedy5492 3 года назад

    Another excellent video from the Tank Museum guys.

  • @paulhills1967
    @paulhills1967 3 года назад

    Fascinating talk. Very well presented too. Thank you.

  • @perkunas8651
    @perkunas8651 3 года назад +6

    What did he rightly say at the end of his presentation? „There were so many tanks coming... to many tanks to deal with them all ...“ Yup, indeed.

  • @saltiestsalt6326
    @saltiestsalt6326 3 года назад +4

    Fun fact: my grandfather told me that the german 3.7mm anti-tank gun was called "Panzeranklopfgerät" by german soldiers, which basically means "knocking-on-a-tank's-door-device". Thats because by the time the second world war, and especially Operation Barbarossa started, the Penetration was already considered so bad.

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 3 года назад

      37mm (from Pz III) could ruin a T-34. Of course, you would need 5-6 well-placed shots but it was possible sine T-34 couldn't hit the barn doors from 300m distance. I think it was faster to get the more T-34 escaped the field.

    • @wetlettuce4768
      @wetlettuce4768 3 года назад

      @@HanSolo__ The problem with the T-34 was visibilty the gun it self was quite accurate, so a German anti tank gun hidden in the woods/bushes could plink away many shots at a T-34 and the tank crew wouldn't have a clue where the shots are coming from.

    • @tarjei99
      @tarjei99 3 года назад

      They probably had the same name for the PAK43, except it didn't wait for anybody to open a hatch.

    • @VRichardsn
      @VRichardsn 3 года назад +2

      _Thats because by the time the second world war, and especially Operation Barbarossa started, the Penetration was already considered so bad_
      Fun story: the PaK 35/36 was the most lethal gun in the world in 1941, in terms of tanks killed. Sure, it struggled against T-34s and KV-1s... but there were _tens of thousands_ of lighter Soviet tanks, like the BT-7 or the T-26. The door knocker was responsible for a large part of the 20,500 tanks lost by the Soviets.

    • @kiereluurs1243
      @kiereluurs1243 3 года назад

      Well, not at 'doors'.

  • @polygondwanaland8390
    @polygondwanaland8390 3 года назад +1

    Very good video, as always from the Tank Museum.

  • @JeanKatana
    @JeanKatana 3 года назад

    Great Report, thank you very much sir.

  • @Pablo98145
    @Pablo98145 3 года назад +3

    'Difficult times' Hmmm, codes are used in a war.....

  • @Watchdogger
    @Watchdogger 3 года назад +32

    5 Soviet tankers downvoted this :)

    • @ericgrace9995
      @ericgrace9995 3 года назад +2

      @Graham Clarke A poisonous comment....

  • @Ben-dk9ef
    @Ben-dk9ef 3 года назад

    Keep up the great work. I love these talks.

  • @donaldmccleary9015
    @donaldmccleary9015 7 месяцев назад

    Amazing video. This video is awesome. Thanks!

  • @u.s.1974
    @u.s.1974 3 года назад +35

    Nashorn (German "rhinoceros", pronounced [ˈnaːsˌhɔɐ̯n] ("nahss-horn"), without the "sch"-sound). Copied from the wikipedia article.

    • @petrameyer1121
      @petrameyer1121 3 года назад +1

      Nashorn [Naas-horn], there is double-s sound.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 года назад +4

      @@petrameyer1121 : Heinz Erhard knew also the Trockenhorn!

  • @daguard411
    @daguard411 3 года назад +3

    When one speaks of anti-tank weapons, one of the most overlooked is the Mauser 11mm. Yes, it turned out that this weapon could penetrate WW1 tanks and at the beginning of WW2 it could still penetrate virtually all light and medium armored vehicles. As WW2 progressed the Mauser 11mm was not a 100% penetration weapon, but by proper use, targeting, and some luck, it was still a hazard till the end of the war. The amazing thing I like to point out is that the round, from its development in 1871 till the end of its 1945 production, it was always black powder.

    • @sam8404
      @sam8404 3 года назад

      Not saying it isn't true but I've never heard that the Tankgewehr always used black powder throughout its lifetime. Also, I wouldn't say it's overlooked because it wasn't exactly the most effective/efficient weapon. Overlooked makes it sound like it's a hidden gem or something.

    • @daguard411
      @daguard411 3 года назад

      @@sam8404 You are mixing two topics. The Tankgewehr was a variation 1871/74 that fired a 13.2mm round, while the rifle I wrote of fired an 11.15mm projectile. In the use of the word "Overlooked" it might not fit the definition you set forth, but as one who has gone through a few stressful situations, if you find something that works to your benefit, even occasionally.......good enough for me.

    • @sam8404
      @sam8404 3 года назад +1

      @@daguard411 my mistake for getting them mixed up. And I'm not really sure what you're trying to say in the second half of your comment, I'd say it's your use of the word that doesn't fit rather than mine.
      As I said 'overlooked' usually gives an implication of being a hidden gem that nobody ever thought of using in a certain way, which just isn't the case for those rifles.
      Sure they can be good enough to get the job done, but there are many other things that could also do the job cheaper or more efficiently which is why those rifles weren't used at the same scale or effectiveness as other AT weapons. Not to mention in the later years of WW1 and especially WW2, AT rifles were practically useless for any serious targets other than very lightly armored vehicles. It didn't take very long after they were invented to become obsolete.

    • @daguard411
      @daguard411 3 года назад

      @@sam8404 If you would be so kind as to reread my original comment, you will see that I have denoted light and medium armored vehicles. As for your definition of the word "overlooked," if you look at the Oxford Dictionary Of The English Language you will easily read that your definition is just one of several. As for cheaper, a 100 dollar rifle seems very affordable. As for effectiveness, no device in combat is 100% effective. On to obsolescence, everything and everyone eventually becomes obsolete. Yet the most bothersome thing I can remember of those stressful situations is how stingy the toilet paper guy is.

    • @sam8404
      @sam8404 3 года назад

      @@daguard411 well I'm not dealing with your snark (and to be honest I'm a little surprised by how much you misunderstood my last comment, almost like it was on purpose) so I guess this is my last reply. Have a good one bud.

  • @peterlee4682
    @peterlee4682 2 года назад

    Excellent! Thanks for your good work!

  • @mauriceclemens3286
    @mauriceclemens3286 3 года назад

    Great narration. Extremely knowledgeable gentleman. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻