Richard Dreyfuss Talks of Iconic Director Elia Kazan as "Serial Betrayer"
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Harloff is the wrong guy to talk to about this he's no idea what's going on
lmao
Has Harloff ever heard of Elia Kazan, one of the greatest film directors of his or any era? The look he's sporting says 'no.'
"Elia kazan is a traitor"- Orson Welles on being asked about the impact of Kazan
Orson Welles liked hyperbole. And if being a traitor is a synonym for betraying friends, Welles would be also be a traitor, and of epic proportions. The irony? I think both Welles and Kazan were superb artists, creators of magnificent work. And, Welles, in that same clip cited here, also goes on to say that Kazan was a great director.
@@WestVillageCrank Welles "would also be a traitor, and of epic proportions?" What on earth are you talking about? It was Welles who was serially betrayed, not the other way around. Stop inverting history to suit your prejudices.
@@flmcghee What are my prejudices?
If you know Welles's history, you know it is a series of wives, friends, and others used and tossed away. The number of people from whom he "borrowed" money (that he never repaid), for example, would probably take more digits - fingers and toes - than a small family could offer. I say this as a profound fan of Welles's work. His gifts were bountiful, his imagination limitless, his ability to acquire skills endless. But I repeat the question,: who personally betrayed him? (Obviously, he was professionally betrayed. But then, alas, betrayal is the Standard Operating Procedure of show biz.)
@@johnlowell9300it sounds like Welles was a user/hustler/player, but those acts didn’t make him a traitor.
Did he give a list to McCarthy??? NO lol
Kazan was a great director without any character.
@James Harden's free throw attempts Those people would end up in prison or without a job anyway Kazan was just being a jerk.
You not a hero if you action don't require any heroism.
@James Harden's free throw attempts First the people that got blacklisted were not a treat to anyone real spies worked elsewhere.
He didn't catch Rudolph Abel he snitched on people that were already being named he didn't name a single new name he was just piling on them because he was an asshole.
BTW i am not a "commie" same way you or Kazan are not "patriots"
Hmmmmm damn. Thats true
"What if I were at the peak of my success and was suddenly asked to give other names of colleagues to the government? And what if I knew that doing so would preserve my career but could only damage those of the colleagues I named? When I think about this I can't be positive that I wouldn't buckle. I'm just not that sure of my courage. But I am sure of one thing. If I did name names, then watch those I named be ruined while I prospered, I never live down the shame.
And if somebody tried to give me an award for my career contribution, I'd be too embarrassed to accept it."
Paraphrased from Writer John Powers
All Kristian Harloff knows is roughly 100 films made between Star Wars 1977 and whatever the last Avengers movie was. He's a fanboy not a film buff. All of these types of shows are hosted by the same type of guy -- "STAR WARS! MARVEL!! DC!!! REMAKES! SEQUELS!!!" -- but when it comes to some genuine knowledge of the industry or film history they're utterly useless.
Thats what the whole of Collider is unfortunately. Having been employed by Collider for about a year. High importance is placed upon writing about all the recycled garbage you mentioned. (Marvel Avengers, DC etc).
They’re not a genuine publication and its obvious that they arent true cinephiles. Its all about the money $$ as the focus is largely placed on all the highest grossing franchises. In fact, you are actually punished for writing true to your interests.
Yet another shitty money grubbing ‘cinephile’ publication that doesn’t actually love films if you ask me.
Well. Get your own blasted podcast and see if you can do any better. Otherwise STFU and enjoy the content, or change channels Troll!
You are the great Richard and a man who has got honor.
He’s so right in his analysis.
I wish Richard Dreyfuss was my dad.
I'm glad he's not my dad.
Over Bruce Willis
On the waterfront and east of eden sooo memorable and fantastic movies
Kazan was a great director but what he did betraying his collegues by naming names was unforgiveable
They were communists, they already were unforgivable.
Agreed. As much love and respect as I have for his work in general, I can't ignore the fact that he was only able to continue making it at the expense of others' lives and livelihoods. Shameful. That's not even touching on all the affairs.
@@jfm14 Kazan was not in danger. He volunteered his testimony. The very next day, in what was clearly a prepared action, he took out an ad in the NY Times celebrating what he'd done. This was a campaign waged by Kazan against people he hated on a personal level or whose fate meant nothing to him when weighed against the advantages that would come his way by this base act of turpitude.
"Say it loud, say it proud. The lie is dead, Hollywood was always red"
Lol Kristian has no idea what Dreyfuss is talking about so he just nods
Lol Holy shit you're right
These has beens are talking about Kazan without knowing anything.
Right on, Rick Dreyfuss.
I completely agree with Dreyfuss that Kazan was a piece of garbage, but so were a lot of people who remained loyal to the party, stayed silent and didn't name anyone, who did equally reprehensible things. Ethics don't matter one whit to Dreyfuss, the ideological betrayal is all he cares about. Dreyfuss will walk hand in hand with people who spew all kinds of hateful nonsense about whites, gender, history, America, political violence, communism you name it. Kazan had no ethical standards, but neither does Dreyfuss. Pot, meet kettle.
All the people who call Kazan a traitor would RUN to congress to tell on people they haven't known in years but they remember them from when they voted for Trump, so freakin spare us.
@JohnInTheShelter Thanks for working Donald Trump into the discussion. I'll bet his name comes up when you ask someone to pass the salt. (You do ask, don't you?)
"Say it loud, say it proud. The lie is dead, Hollywood was always red" - Razörfist, Hollywood was always red: a rant
Kazan was a great director, but a horrible person.
@@erinjohnston2424 Kazan had already won two best director Oscars. He didn't deserve or need the third one.
Richard’s greatest comedy was him slouching in a chais during Club Random
I'm not defending Kazan, but Dreyfuss is playing to the gallery here. First of all, let's be clear, Kazan named eight....EIGHT people. Not two hundred and whatever. Secondly, yes the committee already knew SOME of those eight, but Kazan did not name them 'just to be a part of it'...he was following his own principles and was true to his newfound belief that communism was not only corrupted but would corrupt society if it was allowed to continue.
I would suggest people look up what Kazan himself had to say about all this. People don't crosscheck things enough these days. Have a look at Kazan's side, then judge. Yes people suffered and he lived to regret that, but he suggests that to be dishonest and pretend he knew nothing would've been wrong. I'm just saying, that's all. There's more to this than Dreyfuss and Welles account for.
Incidentally I'm an anarchist. So before anyone accuses me of being anti-communist for saying that Kazan was ok, just note that I'm dead against the lot of em.
Thank you. And he didn't name names of wives of friends he had affairs with in his autobiography. Many think that Dreyfus is full of himself and exagerates to make a point. You bet. Over 200 people named by Kazan? False. Eight, and those names were already known by the committee. How about someone blaming HUAC for putting people in these positions? They broke down Larriy Parks by hours of questioning until he named people. Did he intend to at the start. No.
Today Dreyfuss finally looks his real age.
Kazan was DeNiro’s buddy
@ryanhaag9818 Harvey Weinstein, too.
WHAT WE CALL THAT IS
“A PIECE OF S _ _ _”😈
If you disqualify Elia for being a snake and weasel you may as well just give up the award.
This isn't an award on personal character. This is an award about a body of work within an art. And Elia is as much an accomplished artist as anyone else in Hollywood history.
You want to open the can of worms of bad people? Hitchcock then shouldn't be anywhere near any praise. Completely psychologically tortured his leading actresses.
Επαμεινωνδας Κοσμας bla bla bla go teach that to your kids in Greekland ,where we come from a snitch is like a rat and no one remembers a rat ....he was not an artist he was a snitch a low life human being that no one knows ......ask any one who was James Dean they will tell you he was boy who made kazan famous ......... Malakas
p.s everyone knows Hitchcock they tough us his technique in 1st year film school no one of my teachers remember your Greek cousin kazan so don't compare the sun to a shit hole capiche
@@thejokhadaar
Elia was right to snitch on those cowards.
The Jokhadar ... re;James Dean “he was the boy who made Kazan famous”. What? Check his filmography and you will see this statement is wrong.
Except he betrayed people in his own industry... and its an industry award.
@@thejokhadaar James Dean "made" a director who already had two 'Best Picture' Oscar winning films under his belt as well as had won two 'Best Director' Oscars by that time too? LOL. That makes no sense. Kazan had already directed multiple highly lauded films before East Of Eden, East Of Eden isn't even anywhere near his best film.
Can’t read minds, but it’s clear that the interviewer has no idea what Dreyfus is on about...he(interviewer) is the wrong person to talk about this.
I remember that Richard Dreyfuss worked in a movie about Dreyfus affair, but I don't remember the name, who knows?
"Prisoner of Honor"
Hey Richard, let he who hath no sin cast the first stone.
I agree, but …. He was there at the awards and did not clap…
@lynnturman8157 You just went ahead and cast your own stone. And by the way, Christ's intervention to save a woman from being murdered by a righteous mob has nothing to do with Elia Kazan's testimony or Dreyfuss' criticism of the man. You don't have to be morally pure to know right from wrong.
Hell yeah Richie. Speak on it king.
You know you F@#&D up when Richard Dreyfuss is mad at you.
When even conservatives like Dreyfuss call you out for your betrayal, then you know you were wrong.
Who is Kristian Harloff?
Elia really? Didn’t know this
So, exposing communists especially after WWII is a bad thing? Kazan's personal life is brought up as a negative insult? We all know the morals of actors are impeccable. lol.
Yeah, it's a bad thing. They didn't care, during the HUAC circus, if you were currently in the party....the key question asked during testimony was "Are you now or have you EVER been a member of the communist party?" People were were being blacklisted for something as simple as having attended a few meetings in their 20's back in the 1930's. I mean, I don't respect some of the folks who stayed in the party after information about Stalin and the purges actually started coming out...but before that I certainly do. And the personal life anecdotes are of a piece with Kazan's naming names. He'll put aside friendships and relationships for his own gain...which is what he did.
@@KClouisville This happened right after WWII which was a completely different mindset for what they fought for. Kazan stated he was in a no-win situation, be silent and allow communism to expand, or tell names who were part of communism. By the way, Kazan gave no new names that they didn't already know. His personal life has no bearing on his testimony!
It would be interesting to hear Elia Kazan’s take on it. I’ve never even heard of the guy until a few hours ago but there’s always more to the story than these kinds of caricatures.
Please rectify that. Watch On The Waterfront, A Face in The Crowd, and A Street Car Named Desire.
Well, you could always read his book. He was great director and a despicable person, but have at it check it out for yourself.
You under a rock? You can read strasberg and adler and how they were bettayed. He was a great director and a despicable human being.
@@bOmBAsTiKOf course he was despicable, all commies are.
funny Dreyfus would be remembered by one thing only, but nothing else. They were celebrating his film achievements not his persona
Feelings get hurt?
Haz been squad. mm hmm
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