Exceptionally clear review of the capabilities specific for the activity. As others have mentioned, I would also like to add that any concerns about water intrusion is solved by carrying a spare battery. We have used the RINO for Search and Rescue under very harsh conditions, and having a spare battery is a nice reassurance rather than having to rely on more wiring/connections etc. to potentially power your device.
Great Vlog as usual. I'm sorry that they have you caged up like that and look forward to seeing more of your content. Keep your head up and stay busy. Thumbs up from the US.
Peer to peer positioning is a fantastic technology. I was originally looking for a walkie system so when I’m out duning in the sand dunes with my kids, that we could communicate if we got separated. But this buddy sharing Gps seems to be a no brainer. Obviously the American price of $450 per unit puts me at $1,000+ after tax... but still seems like a price worth paying for a little more piece of mind. Thanks for the review.
great video mate, I just picked my one up and have uploaded the topo with hema maps. have you had any experience using the hema maps and how is it all going with your unit over the past 12 months ?
Great review. I saw that you have a white ktm plug at the end of the Montana rugged mount. Where do you plug that to on the bike ? Thanks Ps: garmin just released montana 700
The plug is the same connector as KTM use. I plug it into its mate that I wired back to the battery. Check out this video for the connector part name and where to find them. ruclips.net/video/U4X2Mkpyty4/видео.html
I use both Oz Topo and Garmin Topo Australia and NZ maps. I swap between them, as both show slightly different things, depending on where you are. Oz Topo seems generally better for more major tracks and roads, and the Garmin topo seems a little more accurate for serious offroad tracks.
Love your work Keith. Very well done. Would love to come riding with you guys up in the high country. Probably need to update the Husaberg te 300. Convince me why the KTM 500 and not a Berg 570
Great review. Do they have some sort of texting function to send messages to mobiles or other rino users? Also does the cradle come in the box or is that a separate item you have to buy? Cheers
@@keithjob just got my Rino 750 on the weekend. Can’t wait to use it. Obviously your Bluetooth donegal works great but for a quick wired connection from the Rino to Sena 20s do you know if you can just run a 2.5mm to 2.5mm cable between the 2 of them? Or will this only give audio it the helmet from the radio and not be able to talk back?
Thanks for the video I really appreciate it. Was your wire set up for your wireless Bluetooth custom I.e. did you buy or make that two wire to one wire piece? Thanks Sean
Hi Keith, Thanks for the video, did you purchase a additional Map and which one, similar use for 4wd/trailbike riding. the base Map just doesn't seem to have enough detail for trails and only sticks to cities.
I have OzTopo maps which I quite like, because you can turn off (remove) the contours layer and just leave the roads. Way easier to read than say the Garmin Topo Aust map.
Great job, very informative video, thanks Keith. The blurb on the 750 says “Rino 750 supports advanced mapping capabilities such as BirdsEye Satellite Imagery (subscription required).” Do you know of / do you use this feature and is it worth the subscription? The blurb also makes note of “Emergency alert reporting lets other Rino 700 series users” … is this similar to InReach or SPOT 2-way message functionality? Or is a SPOT / InReach still a necessary or viable second device? Thanks.
I've never used birdseye so can't comment. Basically google maps satellite pics on the device. Re. the emergency reporting... that is the location sharing feature I discussed, which is limited by UHF range. (So not far!) Still need an inreach or spot in my opinion.
Hey Keith would you recommend the Garmin Rino 750 for a goto gps for road touring on a motorcycle? Does the map keep up ? I just really like the gps / uhf all in one its a no brainer for me as long as the maps can keep up at decent speeds Cheers and love your technical videos and would be Interested in buying your home-made Bluetooth dongle
Hi Maccas, thanks for the comments! Re. the Rino 750, I found the map struggled to keep up at higher speeds.. lower speeds in the bush tracks, no probs. So, I personally wouldn't recommend it as a single unit for road use.
Thank you, very useful video. Very detailed and very helpful. A couple of additional questions please. We have 2 Garmin Rino 750's and I am learning how to get the best out of them. I primarily want them for uhf communication and tracking of my partner in case they run into difficulty. My apologies for these basic questions but I simply cannot find the answers in the Garmin instructions. It would be nice if Garmin provided a detailed 'how to navigate' video or instruction book. If there already is one, please tell me where I can find it. Questions: Q1. How can I attach a Widgit image to the 'home' page showing battery condition/life? Q2. What does the Widgit showing a short vertical line with a green filled rectangle mean? Q3. As the radio can transmit at a maximum of 5W, why would I need/want to select a lower transmission wattage? Q4. How do I read and understand the tracking screen? We normally set the parked vehicle as the Waypoint and then go bush from that point, finally returning to the same point. Each of us has the other on our radio as a contact. 1/ What does the blue arrow indicate and how do I use this? What does the red 'pin' indicate when I touch the screen, and how do I use this? How do I track to follow and find my other partner? How do I track my way back to the waypoint/vehicle? Is there an index/description of what all the indicators on a navigate screen mean and how to use them? Thank you, Peter.
Some answers... 1) Don't think it's possible. But swipe down from top of screen, or tap the power button on the side, and then you can see battery indicator on top of screen. 2) Top left of screen? That is satellite signal strength indicator. There will be 5 bars increasing in size as the signal gets stronger. 3) Battery life. Lower wattage means less power used. If you are relatively close to each other (
Does the gps triangle show you which direction you are facing/pointing? To confirm - You can only see the other person if they send the "Pull" information, right? It doesn't keep tracking while moving.
except that .. you don't have the ability to see others in your group in real time. This is a very handy feature. I use this feature for other than motorcycling .. and it allows me to find an injured or incapacitated hiker, hidden from normal view, without ANY input by them ... as long as the unit is turned on. Could easily be a life saving feature!
Hey keith cheers for the vid, im going to buy one of these as find my garmin fenix 6 watch too difficult to use on the bike, ok for hiking but no good for enduro. Can you explain how you have got your bluetooth to transmit on the uhf? I have interphone in my helmet but can only see how it will receive not transmit?
Hi mate can you please confirm that the 750 actually does fit into the cradle of the 650 , i have both and found that the 750 seems like its going to force into the 650 Cradle , please confirm this if you can for me please , thanks its a great review
It does indeed fit. I think it's slightly taller than the 650, so the arm of the cradle may be bent up a bit more. But I used my 750 in a 650 cradle for quite a while before switching to the spine clip. My brother still uses his 750 in the 650 cradle.
Hi Keith, I've just bought 2 Rino 750s and have been In contact with Garmin as both receive a signal from the internal circuit (have a hiss faint noise on 40) and lock on ch 40 when in scan do you have the same problem. Garmin are saying to return to the retailer for a refund as the won't say that replacements won't be the same (what happened to R&D) cheers
Just wondering about the mount for the rino 750. I’ve been trying to find one like you show however only able to get hold of a holder for the 650, which is different. On another note: channel 40, doesn’t link up with other units, seems to be a known Garmin problem. Made a bracket to hold the rino 750.
The cradle in the video is the 650 cradle. Yes the 750 is slightly taller than the 650, but it fits. Another choice is the spine clip, which I am currently using.
@@keithjob Ok thanks for the reply. I just found the 650 cradle and yes it does fit. I've recently made an aluminium one with two bungee straps to hold it in. Looking at the 2 holders, I think I'll continue with the aluminium one as it is a bit lower profile. I had been using the spline clip however it was getting very sloppy and not staying secured. How have you gone with the channel 40 issue?
@@1iadventures Ch 40 is not one I use, so it doesn't particularly bother me. But last time I checked yes it was still just static. Pretty poor effort on Garmin's behalf, considering this is a known issue for at least 2 years, probably more.
After purchasing the unit at cost do you have to pay a monthly/yearly service provider fee? Can you be expected to pay for any apps or update fees? I'm concerned about cost for use after purchase.
There are no service fees or subscription costs with the Rino. Obviously the maps are at extra cost, or there are some free ones around. And possibly Birdseye subscription if that's a service you need.
Thanks for the reply Keith, Do you have a second switch that you can turn off so the devices don't drawn down on your battery when the bikes not running? (and you forget to turn them off) :-( sounds like a plan moving forward. enjoying the vids and keep em coming
@@robbaldwin4421 No switch. I have two feeds - one direct from battery, always on, and a second one from a switched-with-ignition source. Heated grips run off the switched source, and GPS & 12V socket are always on. GPS doesn't draw much, and I simply remove it at end of day/trip.
No. You need to either initiate a normal transmission (location sent at end of xmit) or hit the location button above the PTT which will just send a location ping.
Exceptionally clear review of the capabilities specific for the activity. As others have mentioned, I would also like to add that any concerns about water intrusion is solved by carrying a spare battery. We have used the RINO for Search and Rescue under very harsh conditions, and having a spare battery is a nice reassurance rather than having to rely on more wiring/connections etc. to potentially power your device.
You have done a great job describing the GPS functions. Would you kindly test the device for two way radio distance and post your results. Thank you.
Great Vlog as usual. I'm sorry that they have you caged up like that and look forward to seeing more of your content. Keep your head up and stay busy. Thumbs up from the US.
Thanks so much!
Peer to peer positioning is a fantastic technology. I was originally looking for a walkie system so when I’m out duning in the sand dunes with my kids, that we could communicate if we got separated. But this buddy sharing Gps seems to be a no brainer. Obviously the American price of $450 per unit puts me at $1,000+ after tax... but still seems like a price worth paying for a little more piece of mind. Thanks for the review.
great video mate, I just picked my one up and have uploaded the topo with hema maps. have you had any experience using the hema maps and how is it all going with your unit over the past 12 months ?
I haven't used the hema maps. Always wondered but never taken the plunge. I use oztopo. Unit is going great!
Great review. I saw that you have a white ktm plug at the end of the Montana rugged mount. Where do you plug that to on the bike ?
Thanks
Ps: garmin just released montana 700
The plug is the same connector as KTM use. I plug it into its mate that I wired back to the battery. Check out this video for the connector part name and where to find them. ruclips.net/video/U4X2Mkpyty4/видео.html
Nice review. Thanks for the video and comparisons!
I’ve just bought a rhino 750 and will be doing hiking 4x4 driving with camping in Australia which are the best maps to download for these use’s. 👍
I use both Oz Topo and Garmin Topo Australia and NZ maps. I swap between them, as both show slightly different things, depending on where you are. Oz Topo seems generally better for more major tracks and roads, and the Garmin topo seems a little more accurate for serious offroad tracks.
Love your work Keith. Very well done. Would love to come riding with you guys up in the high country. Probably need to update the Husaberg te 300. Convince me why the KTM 500 and not a Berg 570
Thanks Keith.
Great review.
Do they have some sort of texting function to send messages to mobiles or other rino users?
Also does the cradle come in the box or is that a separate item you have to buy?
Cheers
yes you can text other Rinos if they are in UHF range (~5-10km). That cradle is for the Rino 650 and is sold separately.
@@keithjob just got my Rino 750 on the weekend. Can’t wait to use it.
Obviously your Bluetooth donegal works great but for a quick wired connection from the Rino to Sena 20s do you know if you can just run a 2.5mm to 2.5mm cable between the 2 of them? Or will this only give audio it the helmet from the radio and not be able to talk back?
Thanks for the video I really appreciate it. Was your wire set up for your wireless Bluetooth custom I.e. did you buy or make that two wire to one wire piece?
Thanks
Sean
I made it.
Hi Keith, Thanks for the video, did you purchase a additional Map and which one, similar use for 4wd/trailbike riding. the base Map just doesn't seem to have enough detail for trails and only sticks to cities.
I have OzTopo maps which I quite like, because you can turn off (remove) the contours layer and just leave the roads. Way easier to read than say the Garmin Topo Aust map.
Great job, very informative video, thanks Keith.
The blurb on the 750 says “Rino 750 supports advanced mapping capabilities such as BirdsEye Satellite Imagery (subscription required).”
Do you know of / do you use this feature and is it worth the subscription?
The blurb also makes note of “Emergency alert reporting lets other Rino 700 series users” … is this similar to InReach or SPOT 2-way message functionality?
Or is a SPOT / InReach still a necessary or viable second device?
Thanks.
I've never used birdseye so can't comment. Basically google maps satellite pics on the device. Re. the emergency reporting... that is the location sharing feature I discussed, which is limited by UHF range. (So not far!) Still need an inreach or spot in my opinion.
Hey Keith would you recommend the Garmin Rino 750 for a goto gps for road touring on a motorcycle? Does the map keep up ? I just really like the gps / uhf all in one its a no brainer for me as long as the maps can keep up at decent speeds
Cheers and love your technical videos and would be Interested in buying your home-made Bluetooth dongle
Hi Maccas, thanks for the comments! Re. the Rino 750, I found the map struggled to keep up at higher speeds.. lower speeds in the bush tracks, no probs. So, I personally wouldn't recommend it as a single unit for road use.
Very useful review, thanks. Really illustrated well.
Thank you, very useful video. Very detailed and very helpful.
A couple of additional questions please.
We have 2 Garmin Rino 750's and I am learning how to get the best out of them. I primarily want them for uhf communication and tracking of my partner in case they run into difficulty. My apologies for these basic questions but I simply cannot find the answers in the Garmin instructions. It would be nice if Garmin provided a detailed 'how to navigate' video or instruction book. If there already is one, please tell me where I can find it.
Questions:
Q1. How can I attach a Widgit image to the 'home' page showing battery condition/life?
Q2. What does the Widgit showing a short vertical line with a green filled rectangle mean?
Q3. As the radio can transmit at a maximum of 5W, why would I need/want to select a lower transmission wattage?
Q4. How do I read and understand the tracking screen? We normally set the parked vehicle as the Waypoint and then go bush from that point, finally returning to the same point. Each of us has the other on our radio as a contact. 1/ What does the blue arrow indicate and how do I use this? What does the red 'pin' indicate when I touch the screen, and how do I use this? How do I track to follow and find my other partner? How do I track my way back to the waypoint/vehicle? Is there an index/description of what all the indicators on a navigate screen mean and how to use them?
Thank you,
Peter.
Some answers...
1) Don't think it's possible. But swipe down from top of screen, or tap the power button on the side, and then you can see battery indicator on top of screen.
2) Top left of screen? That is satellite signal strength indicator. There will be 5 bars increasing in size as the signal gets stronger.
3) Battery life. Lower wattage means less power used. If you are relatively close to each other (
Rino 750 manual:
www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/rino750/EN-US/GUID-6FF30E61-6135-4865-B8EC-B1AEE280CE46-homepage.html
Does the gps triangle show you which direction you are facing/pointing? To confirm - You can only see the other person if they send the "Pull" information, right? It doesn't keep tracking while moving.
Correct, location ping is sent each time a UHF transmission is made, or using the manual button beneath the PTT button. It is not continual.
The radio & gps in single unit , nice device, still think better: cellphone & separate radio..., where cell phone can be protected ...
except that .. you don't have the ability to see others in your group in real time. This is a very handy feature.
I use this feature for other than motorcycling .. and it allows me to find an injured or incapacitated hiker, hidden from normal view, without ANY input by them ... as long as the unit is turned on.
Could easily be a life saving feature!
Hey keith cheers for the vid, im going to buy one of these as find my garmin fenix 6 watch too difficult to use on the bike, ok for hiking but no good for enduro. Can you explain how you have got your bluetooth to transmit on the uhf? I have interphone in my helmet but can only see how it will receive not transmit?
This video explains it: ruclips.net/video/SZXktXPmYDM/видео.html&ab_channel=KeithJobson
Hi mate can you please confirm that the 750 actually does fit into the cradle of the 650 , i have both and found that the 750 seems like its going to force into the 650 Cradle , please confirm this if you can for me please , thanks its a great review
It does indeed fit. I think it's slightly taller than the 650, so the arm of the cradle may be bent up a bit more. But I used my 750 in a 650 cradle for quite a while before switching to the spine clip. My brother still uses his 750 in the 650 cradle.
Hi Keith, I've just bought 2 Rino 750s and have been In contact with Garmin as both receive a signal from the internal circuit (have a hiss faint noise on 40) and lock on ch 40 when in scan do you have the same problem. Garmin are saying to return to the retailer for a refund as the won't say that replacements won't be the same (what happened to R&D) cheers
I read about this ch 40 issue elsewhere too. Mine does the same. But I don't use ch 40 so not a show stopper for me.
Hi Mate, how did you mount Rino on the motorcycle?
I've used the spine clip (and RAM ball/arm) for a while but it started wobbling. So I'm now using the cradle for the Rino 650 - yes the 750 DOES fit.
Very good review.
Just wondering about the mount for the rino 750. I’ve been trying to find one like you show however only able to get hold of a holder for the 650, which is different.
On another note: channel 40, doesn’t link up with other units, seems to be a known Garmin problem.
Made a bracket to hold the rino 750.
The cradle in the video is the 650 cradle. Yes the 750 is slightly taller than the 650, but it fits. Another choice is the spine clip, which I am currently using.
@@keithjob Ok thanks for the reply. I just found the 650 cradle and yes it does fit. I've recently made an aluminium one with two bungee straps to hold it in. Looking at the 2 holders, I think I'll continue with the aluminium one as it is a bit lower profile. I had been using the spline clip however it was getting very sloppy and not staying secured.
How have you gone with the channel 40 issue?
@@1iadventures Ch 40 is not one I use, so it doesn't particularly bother me. But last time I checked yes it was still just static. Pretty poor effort on Garmin's behalf, considering this is a known issue for at least 2 years, probably more.
Can you just buy spare batteries and swap them when it gets low?
yes they are about $100 AUD
That's really neat device, love the integration of rather key off grid technologies.
After purchasing the unit at cost do you have to pay a monthly/yearly service provider fee? Can you be expected to pay for any apps or update fees? I'm concerned about cost for use after purchase.
There are no service fees or subscription costs with the Rino. Obviously the maps are at extra cost, or there are some free ones around. And possibly Birdseye subscription if that's a service you need.
garmin says the rino has bluetooth built in for wireless comms?
The Rino only does ONE WAY comms via BT - your can listen, but not speak.
Hi Keith, how do you get power to your little dashboard? looking to get power to a small dashboard in my 500 to run a Garmin Etrex?
Ran a separate fused feed from battery, then hooked up GPS and power sockets off that.
Thanks for the reply Keith, Do you have a second switch that you can turn off so the devices don't drawn down on your battery when the bikes not running? (and you forget to turn them off) :-( sounds like a plan moving forward. enjoying the vids and keep em coming
@@robbaldwin4421 No switch. I have two feeds - one direct from battery, always on, and a second one from a switched-with-ignition source. Heated grips run off the switched source, and GPS & 12V socket are always on. GPS doesn't draw much, and I simply remove it at end of day/trip.
Can the rino automatically report/share location with the group continuously without pressing any button? Thanks a lot
No. You need to either initiate a normal transmission (location sent at end of xmit) or hit the location button above the PTT which will just send a location ping.
Onya keith
Where did you get the mount?
The cradle is a Rino 650 cradle. The 750 is 10mm taller than the 650 so it's tight, but it fits.
I got it from ja-gps.com.au
@@keithjob Do you have a link for that Bluetooth dongle? I saw it on wish but if you purchased it from a better place that would be an awesome help
Can the radio connect to other branded radios
It's a standard UHF radio, so yes. However the position tracking feature only works with other Rino radios
Keith Jobson oh okay thank you!
In the US it can talk to the GMRS band radios. Older models talk to FRS and GMRS two way radios.
I don’t like unboxing