10: Conservation laws and symmetries - Part 2

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @jfilipcic
    @jfilipcic 6 лет назад +2

    I'm sorry... but the time derivative of the momentum you wrote at 18:39 is probably just the momentum p, non the p dot, right?

    • @tomasvirgen8275
      @tomasvirgen8275 4 года назад

      @Sean Havlin The original comment by Jernej is correct. The lecturer incorrectly wrote down p dot at 18:39. He did not acknowledge this mistake, but he wrote down the correct expression at 20:05. The canonical momentum p is differentiating w.r.t q dot, not q. You are incorrect in saying that p dot refers to the derivative w.r.t position. By definition, a dot above a function denotes a TIME derivative.
      Another mistake that he made at 18:39 was that he forgot to write down a dot on top of the first r vector. Once again, he wrote down the correct form of this expression at 20:05.

    • @tomasvirgen8275
      @tomasvirgen8275 4 года назад

      @Sean Havlin I agree that the time derivative of the canonical momentum [d/dt(dL/dqdot)] is usually equal to the derivative w.r.t q [dL/dq], but we are not working with the usually form of Lagrange's equation here. We are working with the equation that he wrote down at 14:30 which takes into account the generalized force. In that equation, [dT/dq]=0. Therefore, the time derivative of [dT/dqdot] is equal to Q, not to [dT/dq].
      One way to check that he meant to write down p instead of p dot at 18:39 is by looking at the expression on the right hand side sum(m*rdot*[drdot/dqot]). He wrote down r instead of r dot, but this was a mistake on his part because T has no dependence on r(T=sum(m*rdot^2). You could ONLY derive this expression by differentiating T w.r.t to q dot, not q, because T has no dependence on q. It is also clear that he did not take the time derivative of this expression. Another way to see that he meant to write down p is the fact that he rewrote the expression at 20:05, but this time he correctly used p instead of p dot. If you still don't believe that writing p dot is an error, then I recommend taking the momentum expression at 20:05 and differentiating it w.r.t time. You will clearly not get the same expression as p dot at 18:39; this is because the expression at 18:39 is NOT p dot.

    • @tomasvirgen8275
      @tomasvirgen8275 4 года назад +1

      @Sean Havlin I have found a pdf of the textbook for this course: online.kottakkalfarookcollege.edu.in:8001/jspui/bitstream/123456789/357/1/introduction-to-lagrangian-hamiltonian-mechanics%20%281%29.pdf. Page 32 and equation 2.37 gives the correct expression

    • @orientaldagger6920
      @orientaldagger6920 4 года назад

      @@tomasvirgen8275 Nice, got a link to the second half of the course?

  • @mostafizurrahmanafraim2689
    @mostafizurrahmanafraim2689 4 года назад +2

    The cameraman was dancing, I think, while recording. 😵😵

  • @KhariSecario
    @KhariSecario 7 лет назад +2

    Really bad cameraman here... The important part is what written in chalkboard, not the prof face/body -.-
    too much moving and zoom in zoom out... I'm feeling motion sick just from watching

  • @karimkhan1312
    @karimkhan1312 9 лет назад +1

    U R LECTURES R EXCELENT BUT TOO LONG - AMARJIT ADVOCATE DELHI HIGH COURT INDIA