The Disturbing Elden Ring "Iceberg" Conspiracies Explained
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Elden Ring iceberg conspiracy theories explained in 4 tiers of the most interesting, shocking, disturbing, and strange unknown game theories for the Fromsoft game series of Elden Ring, which includes Elden Ring and some Dark Souls, Bloodbourne, and Demon Souls references. This video is a deep dive into gaming conspiracy theories and gaming iceberg and conspiracy iceberg gaming theories. Game theories.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 Tier 1 - Life
20:56 Tier 2 - Death
30:30 Tier 3 - Destiny
39:09 Tier 4 - Duty
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YES so happy my mushroom theory made it on here! Great video
Really appreciate it man! Your videos were awesome when I was doing all my research keep it up
L theory
@@skinless5136 this guy LOL
I was waiting for him to credit you for it but he never did 😑
The mushroom theory is literally the reason why i see the golden order as a parasitic entity now lmao
Hey, fyi, the 50 hit door was actually a coding error and was never meant to be a thing that happened. They actually patched it in like 1.03 I think. and you can no longer hit that wall to reveal a hidden door.
This is great insight thanks a lot christo and I appreciate you watching
Yeah I think they had doors like that but instead of patching them out before launch they gave them massive health values.
Oh
No wonder i was there for 20 minutes
The doorway allowed enemies into a space where you could not fight back.
Did it close up after the patch if it was broken before
The Outer God of Rot cursed Malenia, not Miquella. Malenia was trained by a swordsman who once used the Waterfowl Dance to seal away rot itself. This might explain why Malenia was cursed. She reminded the outer god of the swordsman that sealed it away. Miquella was cursed with eternal youth. He looks like a kid always, but despite looking so young he was incredibly brilliant. He worked to create something that could banish the influence of the gods. So he created a needle of unalloyed gold. This unalloyed gold is what Millicent uses to stave off her rot but it was originally intended to save Miquella’s sister Malenia whom he loved dearly. But Miquella was also strangely irresistible to everyone and while he cacooned himself within his Haligtree to evolve he was abducted by Mohg which is why the Haligtree is dying. Miquella can no longer sustain it.
Oh ya that is what I said was it not? Did I word it weird haha I know I said it in the final theories but maybe I misspoke early on
@@FranklyGaming yeah I think you said Miquella was the rotted one. No biggie.
The broken needle you find was actually Malenia's.. In the cutscene where Malenia is fighting Redahn she pushes her own sword into her shoulder which breaks the needle and allows her rot to bloom.
As i understand, Miquella and Malenia were 'imperfect' and were cursed (or able to be cursed by another outer god) because they were a product of marika and radagon making offspring with eachother, while being the same entity, so basically incest or self-cest. Ranni, rykard and radahn were children of radagon with Rennala so they were fine.
@@kreshar Miquella and Malenia are mirror images of their parents. Opposite gender of the parent with the same hair color and they are both related to the ideas of Abundance and Decay. I know that Malenia is said to have an outer god of rot basically spreading rot through her but I think its must as possible that Miquella also has some sort of outer god working through her. Just speculation though. I know in the game files there's a cut twinblade with Abundance and Decay jn the name..it was meant to be a boss weapon from a battle you'd have with Malenia and Miquella. It's very interesting that they're both cursed in some way that seems like a punishment for their "parents" having them.
"Let Me Solo Her" even got noticed by from software and they sent him a massive giftbox (with an actual, engraved sword & personal letter) with very cool stuff, he posted pictures of it online you can find
Oh wow that is so awesome ya the from soft team is so cool, thanks for watching David
@@FranklyGaming Thank you for this awesome video!
That story seriously strums my heartstrings
The troll’s Fell God eye stomachs were likely removed by Marika. There are stone tablet seals in their stomachs (likely serving a similar purpose to the Omen Shackles) and in Marika’s bedchamber, there are hundreds of stone tablet seals. She is using them as slaves
The Trolls actually betrayed the giants, and chose to join Merika willingly.
@@thegamersconclave8709 And then Marika enslaved them anyway. Tale as old as time...
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 Sad innit
The last giant boss was one I was actually looking forward to the most. And in particular for that cut scene. I wish they had more than one giants. Even the dragons are plentiful finally in a souls game. Seeing that giants actually survive would have been nice.
Just gonna point out that the Fungi theories are 100% intentional because GRRM used the exact same science as the basis for the Weirwood network in song of ice and fire. This concept is something he is INTIMATELY familiar with.
My favorite theory on the list so I love hearing this, thanks for watching!
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I bet he used to eat magic mushrooms at some point in his life.
@@danielsatter1805they're great on pizza
Another cool touch for STRAYDEMON is the Reddit community has named their own for multiplayer after him, if you throw strydmn into the group password option for online you’ll see everyone from the community at summon signs and get a rune boost anytime someone in the group defeats a shard bearer. Just shows the love of the souls community.
Just a few thoughts.
I think Rannis rune is the rune of the unborn. The gift Radagon left Rennala was Ranni all along. When her body dies on the night of the black knives the only thing left is the great rune. Which is why Rennala is so heartbroken, not because Radagon left her. Even her mannerisms exude a sense of maternal loss. She clutches the great rune close all that time up until she meets the player. Even when you fight her, in the transition to the second phase Rannis shadow leaks from the rune itself culminating in the second phase. I believe that Rennala is trying to reincarnate Ranni with the great rune, but since Rannis soul is absent, she only gets imperfect clones of herself. To further solidify this, when we defeat Rennala and she converses in a way with Ranni she stops using the rune except to aid the player. It all makes sense. Radagon didn’t leave Rennala and Ranni willingly, at least that’s what I think.
Marika was cursed by the fire giants. I believe it was then when Radagon was born.
That is Miquella’s Rune, who I believe is Ranni reincarnated. No I’m not crazy.
Mohgs Great Rune -“Mohg and Morgott are twin brothers, and their Great Runes are naturally similar.”
The Rune of the Unborn is similar to Malenia. The shape is smaller because Miquella’s curse was “eternal childhood”.
And Rennala isn’t heartbroken, she’s bewitched by Miquella, which Miquella has the power to do(Bewitching Branch). There are many characters in the game who are bewitched by Miquella(Ranni)
Mogh - attempts to start a dynasty with him
Rennala - calls the egg her “culver”
Malenia - Blade of Miquella
Gideon - sends agents to murder an entire village just to find half of his medallion
Seluvis - wants the blue cunny
The player - Isn’t it weird and random how we just give her a wedding ring with no explanation?
@@puzzleheaded6195 miquella is actually Kuro from sekiro. Miquella just took a vacay
I like how Ranni calls us out during the cutscene when we are fighting her mother in second phase.
@@puzzleheaded6195 that wouldn’t quite make sense since Miquella isn’t dead just in a state of metamorphosis in the Empyrean egg. I have a feeling he’s going to be a dlc boss.
@@puzzleheaded6195 and was in the possession of Mohg himself.
Imagine being such a god-tier gamer [Let Me Solo Her] that people make ACTUAL FANFICTION, ART, AND MEMES about your character. All based solely upon your skill with one boss.
Easily you're best video you've put out yet! The editing, the music, the voice quotes.. it's all so perfect.
Really really appreciate that! Glad to see you guys are liking it!
great video me
Thanks me
It's always beautiful to see creators interacting with fans :p
Long time no see Franky it's me old man billy bob!
@@gijoestaffsgtjackson3364 good to have you back my man
@@dustinsonger851 lol 😂
7:02 In Ancient Greek (tragedy) theatre plays. A masked actor would do an exposée of the state of affairs of the main character. Usually in song, poetry or word games. (Varré is litterally doing-that.)
He is the trope greek-tragedy masked figure, explaining to the audience, the main character's dillema. The fact he has a bouquet (given to actors by their fans either before or after acting).
Just made me chuckle!
I remember it now
I think the Radagon = Marika is (among other things) a Fromsoft play on the Bible's story about the creation of Adam and Eve, where one was made from the rib of the other. Not only were they made for each other, they are one being, one union. I found it interesting that a large portion of their ribcage is missing at the end of the game.
The fact that Marika is portrayed as the one with rebellious tendencies against the Greater Will while Radagon is shown to be loyal also echoes the way original sin is understood/explained by Christians of certain persuasions: Eve sinned and is believed to have "dragged" Adam and humanity down with her.
I saw it as a depiction of God. God is described as three beings in one, each with distinct personality’s and roles. It’s unfathomable to us, but what would gods be if they were so easily understood
Yeah, still they are the same. All of the demigods are Marika's offsprings as explained by Enia. Or at least descendants in the case of Godfrey. And in the cutscenevwhen we fight Radagon we see Marika's body turning into his.
But yeah, in someway your explanation makes sense, although it is in the exact same body
Where in Genesis is it even implied that Eve "dragged" Adam and Humanity down with her? I think you are listening to some Commie feminists interpretation of the Bible.
Adam like Eve was seduced so both were responsible. Freedom of choice is a core tenent of the Christian ethos. That choice is made by the individual and each individual is responsible for those choices. So your suppositions are without merit.
I don’t think it’s just a metaphorical, or spiritual oneness, marika literally transforms into radagon for the final fight in front of you
No, their depiction more logically connects to the rebis, the ultimate end goal of alchemy. The connections to biblical stories are coincidental, as any story about rebellion would relate in the same way. The Greater Will is a god, but Marika takes the more direct role as such. She also isn't the first god and Radagon isn't the first lord. They're not Adam and Eve, they're much closer to Zeus and Hera, down to the lightning powers and demigod children. Marika "sinned" sure, but Radagon wasn't brought down with her, he returned to assist in her punishment because he believes in the Greater Will and the Golden Order above all else, he's the opposite of Adam.
I wish torrent gained power ups when you killed the ancestrial spirits.
I’m really surprised that there’s no horse armour
The wall doesn't actually take 50 hits. It just has a specific health level, and it just so happens that most weapons take between 47-50 hits to reach that threshold. It was also a bug and never intended to be breakable, as it was patched out in 1.03 or 1.04 iirc.
Thanks a lot for the correct syn and appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Pretty sure that's wrong as I played the game on 1.03 and was able to get through the wall
Man I was about to call hard-core bs on your "try fingers but hole" conspiracy 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 respect for not playing it off like a legit thing
Hahahah I’m glad you liked that I had to do one joke one 😂
it does sound a bit sus, pretending it is a joke... Might have to try finger but hole to find out
@@SirCanuckelhead I recommend
On the Jellyfish...
Roderika tells us that her people, uppon being grafted (cut into pieces to glue them on other beings for power) had their limbs cut off, arms, legs, "even their heads" she says. Then she gives you a jellyfish ash.
To me it means that all the jellyfishes you see are actually people who were grafted, and had their "spirit" reduced to a limbless thing that floats, a Jellyfish.
So yeah, the sisters would have been grafted.
I don’t think so honestly, their graves are in the MTOG so it wouldn’t really make sense for them to be grafted. She was talking about the other tarnished she came with
A note on the dead maiden/Varre conspiracy, if you're referring to the dead maiden at the Church of Inhibition in Liurnia of the Lakes, that maiden wasn't meant to be yours. That was the maiden of the tarnished known as Vyke the Dragon Spear, who invades you when you get close. However, I suspect you mean the dead maiden in the Chapel of Anticipation in Limgrave to which you're probably correct, but we may never really know.
Yes I am referring to the anticipation maiden, it’s a cool theory for sure and thanks for watching!
@@FranklyGaming Good, and thank you for making the video.
I was under the perception that seluvis did the deed or had the deed done and thats why he has a finger maiden "doll" to sell you eventually
Soldier cannibals is just like the Redeads from Ocarina of Time, who also crouch over their fallen comrades mourning with similar hand motions until inevitably their fallen comrade despawns, making it lool like they've been eaten.
Oh dang didn’t know about this lore from Zelda crazy stuff wonder if it is a reference at all, thanks for watching!
@@FranklyGaming Fromsoft has TONS of Zelda refs in their games :D
I'm still getting through Elden Ring, but god damn man. You're now in my list of "I see upload notification, I watch immediately"
Good job dude!
Thank you so much David the support means a lot man ❤️
@@FranklyGaming Always dude, you've got the potential to be a big one. Keep at it and you'll always get my view(s), seeing as your videos hit my autoplay when I'm asleep 😂
Somethings to be said about mushroom conspiracy:
1- The golden seeds that we collect speak of the fact that they were released once the Elden ring was shattered, and to erdtree, it was as if life was about to end. Mushrooms usually release their spores once their life is about to end or is endangered, unlike trees.
2- The golden seeds do not look anything like actual tree seeds. Having no transportation methods which trees are very well known for. Rather they look a lot like spores.
3-It is said the influence of the Greater will (or we could say the greater will itself) came from meteoroids containing golden shimmer. Well to me it sounds a lot like a golden seed; spores planted on meteoroids and transported to another planet.
p.s. It has been speculated that mushrooms in our world have a lot of weird qualities and origins that don't really make much sense when studied throughout the earth's history. Many theorize that they could be aliens. To be honest they are super weird, from precise mind controls on specific creatures; to fruit-like imitations that have really weird synergies when combined with other fungi; and different protein chain creations ranging from poisons to nutrients, antibiotics, and hallucinogens without having+ any specified "body" part just for that!
And in look of how muchrooms feed- despite being anchored in place like plants they do not photosynthesise, they do not "make" their own food at the spot they reside needing to eat what dies on the ground beneath them or- in creepiest cases- hijack another living being to feed upon and make it release the moshroom spores onto even more hosts.
In case of Elden Ring's Erdetree and Greater Will the parasitic fungi is quite a ponient metaphor for how Greater Will broke what used to live in Lands Between and then on presumed death bed of what it infected it trying to spread it's influence beyond
Aliens? you got aliens from that? Just gonna presuppose that eh
@@t2av159
If you read Cosmic Horror tales then yes- Old Ones, Elder Gods etc etc can usually be summarized as aliens.
And there's nothing bad in that, it's the way you show it and talk about it matters.
Hell, if author is competent they could even make the common greys work in cosmic horroor
There are actually trees who's seeds can only sprout during fires, which is when a trees life is about to end. I can see us lighting the tree on fire to start a new era being a reference to exactly that sooner than mushrooms. I also don't see how it looks more like spores than a seed. A seed is round and solid, spores are literally powder. I just don't see any logical reason it would be called a seed, look like a seed and not be alluded to that not being the case if it were spores. Your 3rd point is just too baseless in anything in game to even entertain it.
@@Miriam_J_
Might be because of parasitic theory of because of several items that are named one thing and in fact are the other ( like Shabriri Bearies being eyes)
Being alive to play amazing games is like legit my main reason to live lol.
And to meet people like us over the digital screen. I love ya man
not sure if this is wholesome or if i should be concerned
@@Username-1939t9😂me neither bc at the same time a life lived exploring art or literature isn’t that crazy and I suppose video games are just as good of a medium for art but, only reason to live a bit crazy
Mad to think that 1 year later the lore community is still so active that the iceberg is easily twice the size now.
Everyone thinks the DLC will be about either Miquella or the Badlands but I am 90%+ sure that it will be about Godwyn. As touched on at the end of the video, something very sinister is going on with his decaying body & as alluded to by Fia, his will is still very much alive.
@@Kharis- A DREAMING god! The Deathbed Dream. We fought Fortissax in Godwyn's Dream. It's remembrance alludes to that.
In all seriousness though I have a weird opinion on the DLC.
For Lore's sake, i hope its about Miquella.
For My sake, I hope it involves all the shipwrecks off the coasts of the whole world.
And for the Communities sake, it better not be a PvE Boss Rush arena in the centre of the map.
I don't think it will be set in the Badlands because these games usually don't go that far away from the central location, and they probably don't want to spoil the illusion of a world beyond The Lands Between.
I'm not sure about Godwyn though, unless it's set in the past, which is less interesting that it's future. While its current state is... debatable, it doesn't seem to be very active in our timeline, or at least not in a way that can work for a DLC I think.
I still think it's gotta be Miquella or something, idk...
Come to think of it, we could access a dreaming space of sorts, but we already did that, so... yeah, I don't know...
I personally believe Miquella and Godwyn will be the stars of the dlc. I think that would be awesome and it seems likely. However, From is really good at subverting expectations.
Both
I love how the community theories always make souls game x10 more enjoyable even after enjoying the game so much thanks for the video ❤️
Thanks for watching!
this was a PHENOMENAL video. I got the platinum on ps4 in the first couple weeks and just recently started a new playthru on ps5. now I'm even more hyped. I didn't have high expectations going into this video, as never seeing your content, but definitely going to check it out now. one of the better formatted iceberg videos I've seen as well, thank you!
Disturbing doesn't mean what it used to. Neither does iceberg, I guess.
Ya that’s why at the beginning I talk about how my format is different and explain it lol
@@FranklyGaming Yeah, I get it. I just expected something different.
@@FranklyGaming its not an excuse, dont treat us like fools pls)
@@CNNBlackmailSupport tf did you expect
@@GriboedovAntonhe don't owe you shit dawg
I always just figured Marika served her purpose and as such as more or less killed by the greater power and her power was forced into Rahdagon.
Ya I think this would make a lot of sense too it’s kinda cool how it is so open ended
Marika most likely played her hand too early by helping orchestrate the death of Godwyn, or turning a blind eye to what her Numen were doing.
Another thing I just thought of is on the mushroom theory is the fact that the elden ring is inside of Marika/Radagon, the fact that after the death of his soul Godwyn essentially became a parasitic fungus like structure that spreads between the roots, as well as the fact that Radahn has a fungus like material growing on his legs. Lastly, Miquella's power of transformation seems to cocoon the individual, including himself in a fungus like material. Maybe the parasitic fungus like nature of the elden ring and greater will spread to their offspring due to them playing host to it.
Probably the best deep dive of Elden Ring I've watched!
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Wow great video dude. This must have taken a long time, very insightful stuff.
Really appreciate that!
This video was amazing! Well done :)
Thanks so much for the kind words and support!
Thanks for the finger joke. That made my work day better 🤣😂🤣
Haha glad everyone is enjoying it 😂, thanks for supporting what I do
this is one of these videos that perfectly fit before going to bed and sleep, calming and interesting, great work!
really appreciate that!
Great video! Really interesting stuff, and always glad to see someone I haven’t before enjoying these games
I’ve gotta say imo the intro is absolutely fantastic, one of the best I’ve seen in all the RUclips videos I’ve ever watched
I appreciate that thank you!
I love a good theory video, great work! I had an idea today that I haven’t seen out there yet. Mainly in regards to the origins of the frenzied flame. A common thing we’ve seen with those involved with the flame of frenzy is their eyes, or lack there of. Hyetta’s blind and eats eyes to see the guiding light of frenzy, the cultists tear their eyes out and summon the big eye of Sauron lookin thing, and it seems like the nomad merchants are blind. So theoretically, what if when Marika shattered the Elden ring, she did so with the intention of bringing everything back to The One Great. As punishment, her eyes are removed to take away any sight of bringing the end to the erd tree. Only problem is that she’s got Radagon in there too. The guy who’s been cursed by the flame of ruin god who demands sacrifice to wield it’s flame. If their eyes are removed, that sacrifice of their eyes brings that curse to life. The golden sight of fate guiding the erd tree’s destruction to return everything to one from Marika, and the burning flames of Radagon’s curse. Enter the frenzied flame and Numen’s get blamed and locked in the basement (it’s kinda fair tho cuz Marika is numen sooo) The only evidence I have to go on are the scarseals and soreseals of Marika and Radagon. Even in gameplay, they hint at that small sacrifice you make in taking more damage in return for gaining more power. I see everyone missing eyes or blind following the guidance of grace, or frenzied flame, or talking to giant fingers. The frenzied flame and the flame of ruin share a giant eye, share a craving for destruction, and are the only two thing’s that can burn down the erd tree. Even the color of the flame is yellow with reddish orange edges like a Marika Radagon combo. That’s all I got for that crazy theory. Gonna go test it now by equipping all 4 talismans when I get a three fingered hug.
amazing video but i need that intro song that shit was fire
This is one of the most interesting elden ring videos I've seen and I've nonstop played and watched content on the game since it came out. This was my first dark souls esc game and it made me want to play all the other games. Thanks alot for the video I really enjoyed it
Brooooo, you had me with the "try fingers, but hole", cult thing. Gonna say I must've missed that Kotaku article on my google feed. 😂😂😂
Holy crap what is your intro song??... 😭❤️
If you think about it, Renala has one of the most depressing stories. Her husband left her to marry himself, Ranni killed her body, Rykard became an abomination, and Radahn lost his mind.
Left to marry himself 💀💀💀
And Rennala's greatest labor, the task she has worked the hardest to achieve... was impossible for reasons she wouldn't learn until after you fight her and destroy her work. Yeah... Ranni never told Rennala what she's been up to after the death of her body...
I honestly believe it is sadder than that. I believe she had a fourth kid who was stillborn. She has 4 candles in her room and is constantly holding the egg like a mother with PPD. She isn't trying to rebirth Puppet-Witch, she is trying to rebirth the infant. The Juvenile students wouldnt be able to move if they were Rani reborn because they would have no soul... the kids she rebirth act and move like infants (the one who licks your foot and looks at you giddily). Idk if i am right but its what I think about it.
This is the hypest intro I’ve seen for an iceberg video ever, and easily earns a subscription for that alone. Great seeing you not sleep on the iceberg format!
There are many types of icebergs. Some icebergs rank their content by their obscurity. Others by how disturbing or strange they are. Some icebergs are a combination of both, which are my favorite kind.
Love the videos 🔥🔥🔥 keep up the good work
Thanks so much for supporting my channel ❤️
Personally, I think Ranni and the Dusk Eyed Queen are two separate people. I think the death of Ranni was the catalyst to bring the Gloam Eyed Queen back into existence. The fact that Ranni has an eye, the opposite eye, mind you, that is like the Queen is more of a scar or branding from coming into contact with the power of the Rune of Death but "surviving" the encounter, considering that Ranni is inhabiting the body of a doll, which cannot be killed anyway and was only branded by her eye tattoo due to Ranni's spirit entering the doll. The "death" of her original body marked one eye, while the "revival" of the Gloam Eyed Queen marked the opposite eye of Melina. Considering this game, and most of From Soft's games, are about cycles, I think the eye brandings are representations of different points of the same cycles. And while you may think that cycle is Death, I think that cycle is the Gloam Eyed Queen herself. And I think half of the Queen resides in Ranni and the other half in Melina. This led me to thinking about the who the other half of Melina is. If half is the Queen, who could be the other? Then I thought about the dead maiden at the beginning of the game... It would explain her death and how Melina could do the job of the maiden. Also, to further this thought, Torrent is recognized by both Ranni and Melina,, the only two people who have come into contact with the Queen. Seeing how there was a link between the Ancestral creatures and Torrent, this would solidify the idea that both Ranni and Melina had come into contact with death itself.
Please forgive my disjointed rambling as I had this theory simmering in my brain and had yet to write it down until my last post. I hope it makes sense.
The jelly fish thing is even weirder considering no one can die. How did those kids pass?
Awesome video, deserves way more views 💪
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Great video! Btw both moons are still there in Moonlight Altar, it's just the Dark one disappears after burning the Erdtree or it's simply hidden from sight due to the flames.
Oh damn great insight thank you for the correction, and I really appreciate you supporting my channel!
Great vid as always
Appreciate you supporting ❤️
I still love how From created the character Tragoth as "someone without whom many tarnished would have perished along their journey" but then an actual player comes along fulfilling this role in the form of Let Me Solo Her and cementing themselves as a real legend.
Still upset we don't see them referenced in Shadow of the Erdtree
What's that song in the very beginning of the video?
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I spent 2 hours grinding for 2 Celebrant's Sickles as part of my "get everything for every possible build" playthrough. This includes farming for 2 of each melee weapon :')
Edit: I probably had it lucky with only having to spend 2 hours to grind for this weapon (with boosted discovery due to Mimic Tear Helm and Silver Pickled Fowl's Feet, might I add)
the dead maiden was the maiden of Vike, the last and only tarnished before you to find more than two shards of the elden ring, but before he could get his fourth and take on Marika he was told by the most hated man shabriri, that his maiden would be burned to become elden Lord, in a plot to turn him against the two fingers and towards the mad three fingers, before Vike could complete his new mission he was imprisoned in the gaol on the mountain tops of the Giants. his maiden either killed herself in rebellion or shame or was murdered by shabriri.
You also fight fingerprint vyke as he invades you and get his spear.
Great upload. Watched all the way through.
Thank you for the kind words and support!
I have two moons in my game. Of course, I think because you do rannis questline that since she killed her body, her moon disappeared. When she's determined to kill her two fingers, her moon appears, feeling the dawn of a new age. Since it was after she found her moon that she was chosen
just wanted to say the intro music is awesome. Who wrote it?
The music in the intro slaps
By the way what song is it?
please tell me if u find it
@@Satansumasu search: nexpo new theme - "Rebirth" (Black Heat)
Really well made video!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Thank you!
Absolutely marvellous video my friend
That means so much thank you for the support ❤️
I have nothing profound to add in the comments, I just want to say thank you FranklyGaming for such a well thought out and put together lore/secrets video. I enjoyed every second!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
If elden ring gets DLC I have really high hopes because they'll probably explore more of Miquella and the areas will likely be similar to farum azula which ultimately the game lacked
Great video you should definitely do more stuff like this on Elden ring
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This one is my favorite, I actually fell for the facade of soldiers mourning their fallen comrades.
I think the thought that they were mourning them. Is what made the realization that they were actually eating them, feel worse.
Dude, you had my like in the 1st minute!
Thank you so much for supporting what I do!
You had me till you got to the part where they stick their fingers in there lol
😂😂 I try lol
@@FranklyGaming me stoned all interested in this story of the devil cult lol
Hey, quick question: What's the song you used for the intro? Sounds like a banger and I'd like to listen to it in full.
I didn't know that about the Celebrants Sickle. Awesome! I have it and haven't even used it yet.
I mean, I would say FromSoft's post-Armored Core library has been mainstream for a while now. Dark Souls has been popular on RUclips and Twitch for a long time.
Ya I more just like making bold statements at the start that make people want to comment to drive engagement the best example is my fallout iceberg haha
Came for the thumbnail, stayed for the lore
all i saw was a glimpse of "dung eater doesnt eat poop." You sold me.
this is an amazing peice of work great stuff
I actually saw two moons in Moonlight Altar few days ago, i was playing on latest patch.
Ya it sounds like others were able to see it too
The story of the satanic cult had me in tears LOL you really had me going for a minute there LOL 😂😂😂
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Every vid lol
Let me make it short, Elden Ring is the aftermatch of Berserk. Everyone we knew in Berserk is dead, the god hand got split apart by skelli and thus the 2 and 3 fingers where born, big tree stayed.
Thats what its all about.
Great video! The music at the start really got me engaged in it. If anyone knows how it is called please tell me!
I kinda like how the more faith you have, the darker your become giving that you need an insane amount of faith to find out Radagon is Marika and that to use the black blade incantations or black blade you need at least 47 faith.
Edit: you need intelligence to learn that. I'm big dumb dumb
It ok
My iceberg has The Beast Eye on top.
I personally believe that this Item is the key to tying it to the Gloam/Dusk eyed queen aka Marika the eternal.
The short version is that judging from Iji and Ranni’s dialogue, we know that when each Empyrean are chosen by their two fingers, they are given a shadow that will turn into a horrid curse should they ever betray the Greater Will. How do they know this? They must’ve seen it happen. The only other recorded Empyrean with a shadow in history is Marika and when she began to plot against the Greater Will(Enia mentioning her trespass), I believe Maliketh activated his kill switch and used Destined Death against her hence why she’s crucified with a spear bearing similar traits to the power of his Black Blade(It channels the same brilliance of the black flame and Blaidd’s eyes glow red at the end of Ranni’s questline, possibly explaining the red hue). It would explain why her corpse is missing her left eye, why the eye has a claw mark, and is surrounded by Marika’s stony flesh. Another question I asked myself is just how Maliketh was able to possess or lock away the Rune of Death if he’s just a shadowbound and not a demigod? The answer is simple, he sealed Marika inside him who actually was a vessel for the Rune of Death. He only channels the power from his Black Blade which is made from Marika’s torn half that leads to her missing eye where I speculate the stone covered Beast Eye/Gloam Eye originated from(keep in mind at which side of her face). Her corpse is likely dead since it’s impaled with a DD spear, her other half being sealed into Maliketh, meaning the Beast Eye that writhes could be the only part of her that still “alive”. Ew.
This eye could very well have been passed down to some of her children as well, particularly the Empyreans.
Melina(Smoldering Butterfly) - she reveals to have the same eye, on the same side of her face in the lord of frenzy ending. Her previously Golden Eye loses its color because the Golden Order is no more and Grace is gone.
Malenia(Aeonion Butterfly)- obviously this is pure speculation but I think the rot that covers her eyes was an intentional creative decision to hide this very secret.
Miquella(Nascent Butterfly) - I’ll get to that…
Ranni - It’s hard to tie Ranni with being a daughter to Marika but her spirit form keeps the same eye closed as Melina. Ranni’s pupil color that she never opens is Gloam and that’s basing it from Melina. I believe they keep them shut to hide their identities as Empyreans.
Shortly after I began to look at Torrent. Particularly about who the former master might be. I scratched my head on that question for a bit and it lead me to two candidates. First one is Miquella. Second is Ranni.
Miquella:
The spectral steed whistle is made of a delicate “goldwork”, not just gold, mirroring the Item Description on the Unalloyed Needle. I didn’t think much of it at first but after seeing the flame of frenzy ending, I’ve speculated that the material is Unalloyed Gold. This is backed by the fact that the whistle is still intact after the flame of frenzy is unleashed. We know that Miquella’s needle is made from the same material and has the properties to ward away the effects of the flame of frenzy and rot, which both originate from outer gods.
Ranni:
This one is less likely but upon inspecting Ranni’s discarded Empyrean flesh, you can see that she had red hair and is missing a 🦶 much like how Radahn is missing both feet. In fact, all of the red haired demigods are crippled in the same way and use some kind of crutch to help them get around(Malenia with her prosthetic feet and Radahn with his gravitational powers, probably Leonard before that explaining his attachment). It might have something to do with the Curse of the Fire Giant since he is found crippled as well. I speculated what Leonard is to Radahn, Torrent was to Ranni before she became a doll.
The more I looked into these two the more parallels I began to see, particularly their rejection of the outer gods and it led me to my biggest tin foil theory. Ranni Is/Was Miquella and Reincarnated as a daughter to Rennala.
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I’ll try to explain with my biggest points:
I believe that the Amber Egg Radagon bequethed to Rennala contains the soul of Miquella, and after the Shattering, the Great Rune. I also believe that Rennala is attempting to reincarnate Miquella as Ranni using the rune.(Much similar to how the player is able to change sex, traits, name, Identity, etc.)
Juvenile Scholar Cap Reads:
Yet their rebirth is not without imperfections, and thus do they repeat the process, eventually becoming utterly dependent upon it.
I speculate that the “imperfections” are happening because of Miquella’s curse(eternal childhood) and until it’s perfected, Ranni(Miquella) will continue to inhabit the doll. Backing up my previous theory, this would also explain why they all have gold/gloam pupils. Interestingly enough, Rennala is very bewitched by the egg. The Bewitching Branch reveals that Miquella had the ability to compel love and affection and if we look close, we can see traces of it inside the egg, particularly the white buds before they hatch. We know anything that’s mixed with the blood or essence of Miquella tends to stay in a premature “infant” form, hence the Haligtree being stuck as a baby version of the Erdtree and now the buds inside the egg.
Another supporting evidence is by looking at the Rune of the Unborn, then looking at Malenia’s. This is backed by the fact that every Great Rune in the game bears a striking resemblance to their twin counterpart.
Mohgs Great rune reads-
“Mohg and Morgott are twin brothers, and their Great Runes are naturally similar.”
Malenia & Miquella(confirmed twins)
Morgott & Mohg(confirmed twins)
Rykard & Radahn
The only one I can’t tie this to is Godrick but it is said he has distant relations. That country bumpkin.
Another key is Ranni’s discarded empyrean flesh(Miquella’s real corpse). Obviously, it’s charred so it’s impossible to tell but you can see the red hair and stature is similar to Malenia(Morgott cutscene shows identical size thrones for Miquella and Malenia, proving Miquella cured his child form) and is wearing jewelry similar to the Godskins, further tying to the DEQ/GEQ.
*Heavy Speculation* There are item descriptions that reveal that Miquella used to be a golden order fundamentalist and my crackpot is he switched sides after he and all of his sibling demigods were born with curses but I think the breaking point was when Marika fell and was betrayed by Maliketh after possibly wanting to free her children, revealing the true nature of the Greater Will. Miquella was the “precious empyrean” chosen as the next heir(which would explain why Mohg wanted to be his consort and why there are oracle envoys in the Haligtree and Leyndell) but instead decided to create his own fate by attempting to cure his childhood form into the Haligtree(why it’s stopped growing) and following Rennala’s teachings about the moon but in order for him to set himself and his siblings free, he would have to slay their two fingers(Finger Reader Crone, Liurnia - The All Hearing Slaughtered) which I believe he did(The missing bit in Malikeths Black Blade is the fragment Miquella(Ranni) stole, explaining the Black Knives guarding the Haligtree). This allowed him to command the Godskins to burn everyone’s Two Fingers with the black flame, also explaining why one is guarding Ranni’s discarded empyrean flesh and why Iji is found burned by the black flames but before she could get to her own they retreated to the stars and are being protected by Radahn. This would explain why Melania marched to Caelid to challenge Radahn and be desperate enough to nuke the place with her scarlet rot. She was serving Miquella(Ranni).
Everyone speculates Miquella has ties to St. Trina’s who’s gender is open to interpretation(The double helix can be seen in Miquella’s needle which depicts the symbol for mercury(Roman God), who represents intersex people). In fact, the item description in the Sword of St. Trina states that he could’ve been a boy or girl. St. Trina is heavily tied to sleep and there is an instance in the game where Ranni enters a deep slumber at the same time as Rogier after he asks you to retrieve her curse mark and she murders the dude in his sleep for prying *shivers*. During her first appearance in the Church of Elleh, the merchant and the donkey are also both asleep and Malenia herself wakes from a deep slumber when first meeting her. I believe she takes the form of St. Trina when she is dream phasing. Also, the juveniles in Rennala’s fight sing about sleep. St. Trina’s torch portrays the figure with one eye (Ranni always keeps one eye open).
A cool factoid about Blaidd is that his breastplate portrays two twins with a tree between, possibly being Miquella, Malenia and the Haligtree, and the double helix from Miquella’s needle can be seen in his Royal Greatsword. Blaidd could very well solve the mystery of their Shadow since they were born at the same time, being twins and all. If his sword does contain properties of unalloyed gold then it would make sense why he’s been able to help Ranni wage war against the Greater Will, right up to the point where Ranni murders her Two Fingers, attacking us at the end of the questline because Ranni(Miquella) is in our pocket as a miniature doll. Speaking of Unalloyed Gold, the Mask of Confidence in particular could hint towards this secret. The gold threads could be unalloyed to hide Miquella’s(Ranni) secret from the Greater Will.
The Miquellean straight sword is modeled after the carian sword but it has amber(just like the egg) instead of Glinstone and the real Loretta can be found at the haligtree tying Caria to Miquella as well. In fact, I personally believe the Albinauric’s(all generations) are Miquellas(Ranni’s) subjects, explaining why half of the Haligtree medallion is in Albinauric village right under Ranni’s moon realm. Coincidence?
After becoming her true consort(Suck it Mohg), Ranni has dialogue where she asks “I take it thou has noticed?” And that her age will not be of “gold” but the “stars”. In her ending, She embraces Marika(her true mother) and vows to finish what they started which is to not be influenced by the outer gods anymore, but to prosper with true freedom and she chooses you to be her consort before creating a massive waygate into the unknown(explains why they’re so small throughout the game, being meant for a “child”). After getting to know Ranni(Miquella) though, I don’t think she’s done with the Greater Will.
Finally, Ranni do sound like a child and that she tiny
The only things that could disprove this is Miquella’s “body” in Mohg’s palace but I believe the it’s nothing but a husk. In fact the game eludes to this since Mohg gets no response and it goes against every depiction of Miquella. The cocoon is likely a smoke screen created by Miquella so that he can wage war and hide from the GW as Ranni. It’s likely he bewitched Mohg, Rennala, Seluvis, Gideon, Malenia etc. Even the player(Weird how we just give her a wedding ring with no explanation). The other thing is Ranni has dialogue where she talks about being chosen as Empyreans and she says I, Miquella(former identity), and Malenia. Could be she’s being tricky with her words in order to protect her TRUE identity(which she’s done before and even commends you for lying to her about Torrent)but who can say.
Damn this is super interesting wish I had seen this before if I ever do more elden ring deep dives on one theory is that cool if I talk about this? Thanks for watching
@@FranklyGaming Absolutely 👍 I’ll have to admit it’s not foolproof but it is my best attempt to piece together a big chunk of the story
This is probably the coolest theory I've seen yet, Bravo man 🤯
@@zombieslayin317 Thank you 🙏 I’ll admit it wasn’t easy. The plot is unforgiving and crafting this gave me a touch of the flame of frenzy. May chaos take the world 😃
I don't know about this "Greater Will" thing, but he seems like a fun guy
I perceive the ''Lands between'' to be exactly that, the world / purgatory between a certain fantasy world/universe and its afterlife. Every aspect of the lands between consist of pain, grief, turmoil ,suffering or sad desperation. All the beings in the Lands Between are sent there after death in the real realm ,to either suffer in this purgatory or to rule over/maintain the Lands Between (as a ''god, demigod or Elden lord.). Endless rebirth into a hellscape until the correct criteria is met for the being to pass on to the afterlife, heaven or hell. The Twin Bird is the representation of this. The black death bird transports them to hell or the Red Death bird transports them to ‘’heaven’’.
Even with the (Tibia Marriner) ferryman of Greek mythology seen across the Lands Between , one can see that the Lands Between is the transition stage between life (in this fantasy universe) and the afterlife of this fantasy universe.
The Greatsword ‘’Helphens Steeple'’ dropped by a Tibia Marriner, is in the form of a Christian Church steeple, these Churches with their elevated steeples in Medieval Europe acted as gigantic map markers for all, showing you the way to civilisation,to Life , to the Light , showing that within this building, you will find the way to heaven , to true life. And of course the way to reach God Three in One, to sit by His side within Heaven ,in the Afterlife.
Mikela and the assimilated prophecy of salvation and the mercy towards the albinorics (the experiments of life / the downtrodden and oppressed / humans) and all whom would reject the evils of this purgatory might just find salvation and the ‘’Promised land ‘’ ..to get to ascend to Heaven.
Melania represents the Medieval Christian knights whom fight to protect the ethos of mercy and salvation of Chritendom , most skilled warriors ..but whom are sadly, just like all people , infected by the rot of sin and whose only salvation is through the One whom they fight for.
We even have the Valkyries of Norse mythology , Melania + her daughters whose sole purpose it is ,to identify great warriors that HAS FALLEN IN BATTLE and to carry them to the afterlife of this fantasy universe.
No where in the ‘’Lands Between’’ do we find any food nor houses, nor any buildings/infrastructure required to sustain actual life, instead we only find catacombs, thousands upon thousands of graves and gargantuan administrative buildings .. housing only figures of power / institutes of magical learning / temples. (Means to / knowledge of how to leave purgatory..or to rule it)
Prator Rykard, a symbol of Egyptian Mythology ,the serpent god Apophis , demon of chaos, who had the form of a serpent and was the foe of the sun god, Re (Foe of the current order)
Apopis threatened the underworld….the lands between.
The serpent devouring itself , a symbol of constant destruction and renewal…
The entire realm of the ‘’Lands between’’ is a realm which depicts the transition/deliverance of the ones whom have died, to the afterlife Christian/Greek/Norse/Egyptian/Japanese kegare, thus the ‘’Lands Between’’ is the realm of transitioning from the world of a certain fantasy universe and its afterlife via purgatory.
The Thrones of the NOX
‘’Night king’’ = king of darkness.
These gigantic skeletons are like eldridge beings, ruling over the Eternal cities , as they sit there, they are undead, dormant, until a suitable amount of lost souls are brought in front of them.
Upon which they wake and devour the essence of all the tormented peoples in front of them, sending the devoured to hell. Thus all the beings in front of them are left petrified, left in their state of anguish, screaming in torment and pain and fear , in doing so the eldridge lords gain power to rule further.
The ferryman of Greek mythology seen across the Lands Between are of his kin, his servants whom serve the same purpose , to either lead the damned in purgatory to the afterlife , or to lead them to the Night king…
Goldmask/The Jars/Rani.
Apart from Rani's ending, I think the perfect Ending would be to have GoldMask rule as Elden Lord over the purgatory that is The Lands Between and to have the Jars as his servants/followers. To help all those in the Lands between to find their way to the afterlife.
Alexander and all the warrior souls within, rightfully only enter into the afterlife after falling to you in single combat.
Someone should have used the pizza swap glitch to hunt for illusionary walls
Id also like to point out that Sekiro takes place in Ashina, which loosley translates to Land of Reeds, that and the fact that both are stated to be going through civil wars and have samurai themes implies Sekiro is happening around the same time as Elden Ring
Hey. What is that intro music? I know it from somewhere, but I cant remember where... Great video! 🥰
Great stuff right here man 👌
Appreciate it brother
The maiden outside in that one church is actually vyke’s maiden who killed herself when he inherited the flame of frenzy
I don’t think he inherited the flame of frenzy because he was wearing his armor when embraced.
Ima continue to watch but lol
2:05 “ He’s the first character you meet in game “
2 seconds later
“ so you get him by talking to Melina “ 🤣
The explanation of the map being the body of Godwyin also reminds me of the Nordic saga ''Ymir's creation&death''
In the beginning, there was Muspelheim the land of fire, Niflheim the land of ice and between them lie Ginnungagap the gaping abyss.
The icy winds of Niflheim and spitting flames from Muspelheim grew and grew until they finally met in Ginnungagap. Amid the chaos, fire melted the ice and the water drops fell to form Ymir. As they slept the mighty Jotunn began to spring from his legs and the sweat of his armpits.
Fire continued to melt ice birthing a great cow Audhumla who provided nourishment to Ymir while she fed upon salt-licks in the ice. Her licks uncovered the first of the Aesir which led to Odin, God of Knowledge and Allfather.
After a time, Odin, God of Knowledge and Allfather led his brothers in slaying Ymir. The Aesir began using his corpse to form the realms. His blood made the oceans, his skin and muscles made soil, his hair bore vegetation, his brains clouds, and his skull the sky.
The Full Name is
Queen Marika the Eternal Radagon of the Golden Order
And after there separation
Queen Marika the Eternal Golden Lineage. While Radagon became Red-Haired Radagon Of the Golden Order.
The secret door on volcano mannor was actually a bug, it got patched later on and it disappears on one hit now.
Ya some people mentioned thanks for the clarification and thanks for watching too!
You’re actually not thinking of the correct doorways.
The 2 that took multiple hits are no longer breakable at all.
The illusory wall that only takes a single hit always took a single hit.
"Try fingers but hole"
Wasn't even that annoying. The annoying things are the dumb messages in front of every interactable.
Even more annoying is the "you don't have right, oh you don't have the right, you don't have the right.
That family chain is gonna be crazy
Anyone got any theories as to how the minor erdtrees play into the larger lore?
"Torrent is the first character we meet in-game"
Varre and Kale: Are we a joke to you?
I was thinking like when he sniffs you right at the start haha
There’s a common theme in the game of casting away chaos to better symbolize order. placidusax being an example of visual storytelling that represents this. We know that the two fingers represent order while the three fingers represent chaos. With the three missing heads we can assume that placidusax cast away three heads to remove chaos and better symbolize order to become an Elden lord. 1 is also a representation of isolation. Every great rune we receive come from someone that has formed a pair. Mohg and Miquella, Margot and Margot, Radahn and his horse, Godrick pairing with the dragon, Rykard and the serpent, Renalla and the egg. The only exception is Melenia who has been left in isolation representative of the divine tower you use to activate her rune. So on this we can assume 1 represents isolation, 2 represents order, and 3 represents chaos. We can assume that chaos and and order represents a whole or more likely, nature. The theory of the two fingers and three fingers being two parts of a greater whole holds a lot of of weight in my opinion. placidusax had to cast away three heads to represent order with the two heads remaining. It is likely the two fingers did the same. Casting away the three fingers of chaos to represent order.
Awesome video! Was the part at 39.32 a misprint? You said Miquella, but I think you meant Malenia. There, that's the extent of my ER knowledge.
Okay just to start off you got me on the try fingers but hole, good job. Just wanted to say that the theory about Varre in my mind is barely a theory. I think it's obvious. He's waiting right outside, he's got blood on his hands, right where you start the game there's a dead Maiden. This is not one of the great Mysteries of the game for me. She definitely was supposed to be your maiden and he definitely killed her, and now I'm moving on to the rest of your video. I'll be back.
Tier 1… lol
Imagine if Torrent actually contains the soul of the Prince.
Ya something for sure is going on behind torrent would be interesting
@@FranklyGaming torrent. Or rather, the Whistle itself is an Elden Rune.
Fromsoft went out of its way to remove rings and replace them with trinkets because we are searching for "Rings" in game. Then one of the first things we get is a Golden Ring that you can use as a whistle and it summons Torrent.
Furthermore. Rannis rune is also a physical ring. The ring of the darkmoon that we slip on her finger in her ending.
Shoot. These theories are kinda tame IMO...
@@darkhobo in an interview it was said that they changes from rings to talismans for design reasons. The artists liked designing cool talismans instead of being limited by rings.
@@Amferam no. It was a conscious decision. There are no rings in the game. It wasnt just because they wanted to do other stuff. Especially because what we got is so generic. "Its a square shape"
Please.
Bro you HAD me on that one 💀 I was shocked and totally about to go tell my wife 😂
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You really got me with that fingers joke
Haha thanks for watching
I need a part 2... And 3... And 4 and into infinitum
Going to more lore deep dives for sure! Thanks for watching!