🛑🛑 Not to be rude or mean, but playing Devils Advocate…… Can you nerf something that is bought and paid for, in its original configuration? I don’t think I would be happy if I paid for something (doing my dew diligence and spending my own money) and something is turned into, something it wasn’t; when paid for it. 🤷♂️ Just throwing that out there. ✌️
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Stop buying these “premium” tanks, we have seen that every time Some blogger mention that its is over powered. Wargaming Will nerf the tank and you as an buyer end up with an crap tank and lost slot of money
I was driving my Sheridan and had a brown pants moment when a Monsterjager came round the bend on Airport. He then proceeded to empty his rocket salvo into me, ten hits with one pen, and I realized "oh, yeah, spaced armor." The 152mm HE enema follow-up was glorious. The Mighty Jingles was right. It is always better to give then to receive...
I just played El Alamain in my leopard 2 AV I have both controlled impact and spall liner and a full speed collided with this thing and it shotguns me from Zero range and my game was done
No need to fix it, better fix the maps and add weather cenarios.... and the impact this tank had at era 2 is a lot less than the marders or begleitpanzers!
Nice job riki😊WG fix this tank. And anymore u don t hit and if u hit enemy tank u don t do any damage😂😂😂today i shoot enemy tank sideway and my missile go thru tank whitout any damage. And that happens every game i played. 😅😅😅
The begleidpanzers and marders are still more deadly than this thing. It is impossible to hit anything that is moving. Maybe the campers dislike this thing so much. The only big hits I had were on stationary targets that are oblivious to their surroundings.
Agree the out of balance parts are intra clip reload and concealment (with the right setup). The balance factor is the rockets are basically HEAT rockets. So limited effectiveness against anything with spaced armor. It’s like a better version of Ontos. A comparison to the Ontos would make a good video.
I bought the armadillo and payed good money for it and they nurffed it too shit it’s now it’s like a pensioner with a Zimmer frame spitting popcorn at everybody it has no teeth just because of people crying about it baby’s
It will take time to collect a large enough data set for WG to analyze exactly how impactful/OP it is. As players we're only seeing it through the player lens and don't have access to the global (entirety of the) data. By what metrics are we judging the (un)balance of the monsterjager? They have to be objective metrics rather than subjective (i.e. not based on how angry we get that they appear to be doing so well). Here's an experiment - over the next several days, record how many MJs are on each team, how often they are in the top 3, and also take a look at the player's WN8 and WR in both the MJ and how it compares to their overall stats. We can be upset all day long, but until we look at real objective stats, we are only going off feelings.
We need bigger maps! I should have a chance to outrun these vehicles or at least shoot them 2 times before they reach me. I encountered 3 of them in a platoon, they reached my position in 30 secondes after the game started, and made swiss cheese out of me. I was able to hit one of them, but no time for a reload and a second shot. I didn't do enough damage anyway, to what should be a "Paper Tank" They went through our team like Tasmanian Devil's. It might be fun to the people playing these vehicles, but most of the time not for the Rest 😢
Its basically direct fire Arty that happens to be invisible and has the speed of a Light tank. It brings nothing to the game. Would the game as a whole be better of without it? Yes. Now all it does is, antagonise a lot of Era 2 players, reduce the player pool for Era 2 and increase negative attitudes towards WG and this game. Sadly, as it could have been avoided.
Congratulations! Y’all’s got what you wanted. They silently nerfed it to oblivion and now it’s not even playable. Rockets have the speed of the slowest ATGM’s now.
I've been playing WoT on Xbox for almost 9 years off and on. they have, without a doubt, ALWAYS been a "pay to win" profit company. the number of tanks that drop for both "unlock and buy" that get nerfed the update after they are no longer the "hot new tank" is innumerable. i have ground out multiple premium tanks (the Fatherland, the Chisel and the Machine are three that come to mind right off) that withing a week or two of them no longer being the "hot new thing" got the crap nerfed out of them... just to be replaced with another one. this tank will be no different. id bet they will get a standoff distance for arming, a longer reload and a wider shot spread before Christmas...
I haven't even watched this video yet and I 100% agree with the title. I feel like I've lost my ERA 2 enjoyment. 7 Monsterjagers per match (I know it's a new tank) is demoralizing. I will never own that tank. It's giving me AVRE vibes.
Yeah I call it a monsterjager holiday. NOT fun seeing 4 enemy jagers against 1 of ours…. Great match making, plus if you get caught with your pants down, you’re most likely done in one clip. An good luck trying the panzer tech tree line, that’s a pain right now. You get 2 rockets in a clip but have to wait in between reloads to shoot my 2 rocket 😂 an they can clip you with one volley.
As a buyer, i have the right to demand that since i have paid full price for it, it will remain as i bought it. Otherwise i as a consumer, will be scammed and demand my money back.
I just once again got annihilated by this thing in my full health Conqueror. I just jumped on RUclips to comment on a previous video saying the Monster needs to be removed or severely nerfed and this video was the first to pop up in my feed. 😂
Think about. You buy new fast computer. And a one month after buing deweloper says that we update you comp and drop power at half.Thats ok? Noup it is cheating.Just same if WG drop these tanks specs after buying.
The Devs continue to ruin gameplay with broken, overpowered tanks despite the numerous complaints. Both new Halloween tanks are ruining their respective modes. Anyone who thinks that the Devs still care about the health of the game is simply ludicrous at this point. They’re in it for the short-term gain because they know that this game’s days are numbered. It’s not a matter of IF the game will die over the next year, but WHEN. These Devs know their time is nearly up and are taking the cheap way out - milking as much money from the gullible window-licking turds and wallet warriors as possible before that stream runs dry.
The leopard 1s were unplayable after the German lights were added then they added mim arm distances and I finally got the leopard 1a5. Now the add this thing and it's unplayable again because of the leopards lack of armour.😮💨
I used to play WII, CW Era 1 and Era 2. Never played the CW Era 3 clown show. Now I have to stop playing Era 2 as well because it turns to clown show 2?
Couldn't agree more about the Jager - it's a tank made for inferior players to score - not much skill needed . I prefer a tank to play eg. the Type 63HG than the bullshit fantasy tanks
RIKI, these kinds of videos only attract people who know how to complain and whine about how nothing is good enough. When a special tank comes out, everyone gets excited, but when there’s nothing interesting, they all say pass. Make up your minds already! Lately, most of the videos have mostly negative comments. I conclude that these comments are partly due to your recent change of opinion about the game. There’s frustration in your voice, and that only brings more frustration. It’s not right to pay for a tank with certain specs, and then, just because many players don’t know how to play, think strategically, or move in the game, it gets nerfed. This whole thing is becoming ridiculous! Learn to play this darn game, it doesn’t have any complicated mechanics. By the way, you need to know where to be and how to position yourself to get good results with the tank. You’re complaining about the rockets: have you considered that the average number of penetrating rockets is around 5? Have you considered that the rockets aren’t guided? Have you considered that maybe the tank forces those who only know how to camp to move? Wake up! It’s just a game, and all I see lately in the comments and in the videos from July till now are complaints and whining.
I like no one talks about the night stalker it is a tier 9 477 molot it's armor is bs and the rockets are too strong I've been playing tier 8 and 9 and both tanks their standard and gold ammo aren't good enough to penetrate the tank in the lower plate and sides also most people I've seen play very aggressive like in CW but this WW2😂
Rockets don’t have a minimum arming distance that are armed as soon as they leave the tubes people need to learn how to play the game and stop crying about it baby’s
This is the most OP tank iwe encountered in 14 years, you dont see it coming and its a one hit game over, of cause its just a moneygrab from wargaming , buy this and enter God mode. But then again this game is a laggy mess most of the time these days anyway.
Anyone who has played this game for any amount of time can notice what you are saying immediately , here we go again they have ruined Ara 2 personally I think they do this to force people to buy these vehicles in order to be competitive I think this is purely a monitoring gain just pure greed on wargaming part when you look at the price of these vehicles in comparison to what they used to be to me personally it is obvious
I hope that wot dont touch that tanks specs. I paid +40€for it. And if they reduce performance of the tank, as happened whit e.g wiesel wagon. It s pissing off taking money from the buyer and then pissing the buyer off by undermining its original performance values. They would have to think about what kind of performance tanks they are releasing. It cannot be the case that a tank is realesed and in a months time its performance is reduced.
The minimum arm distance should be put on this tank and also the clip potential needs nerfing so they fire wayyyyy slower. The arm distance should be similar to the weisel in era 3 I own this thing and I think it needs nerfing ,it's spoiling era 2
Before this momsterjagar Era2 was relatively playable , especially after introduced the minim arm distance , and than wargaming ruined again the game with the monstaerjagar, I have to say it’s really stupid.
This tank has destroyed ERA2. They fix the ATGM issue and then introduce this. I quit playing the game for 3 months and I may be done forever. Please correct me if I am wrong. It has the highest pen of all ERA2 Tanks.
WG is a money grab 200%. I’ve played the game since 2014 back when it was good. Now it’s a dying (nearly dead), game. And WG is milking it as much as possible before it dies for good. The Devs are failures. Their employee count comparative to previous proves that. WG is just a little Bungie. Die out just like Bungie.
And the weisel tow is not healthy for the era 3. Buy it and enjoy it. Pay to win always has been wargamings way. Been playing for 8 odd years. Pay to win. Nerff the weisel?
🛑🛑 Not to be rude or mean, but playing Devils Advocate……
Can you nerf something that is bought and paid for, in its original configuration?
I don’t think I would be happy if I paid for something (doing my dew diligence and spending my own money) and something is turned into, something it wasn’t; when paid for it. 🤷♂️
Just throwing that out there. ✌️
Short answer is yes.
All players agree to the End User License Agreement (EULA) when creating their WG account:
13.1. From time to time, we may need to deploy or provide patches, updates, additional Content or other modifications (each, a “Change”) to the Products. We do so to maintain conformity of the Products or for other important operational reasons, e.g. to adapt the Products to a new technical environment or to an increased number of users, enhance online gameplay, add, update, or remove features, resolve software bugs.
13.3. Changes include so called “nerfs or buffs” to Paid Items, including the Paid Items that you have already acquired. We will do that only if permitted by law and in accordance with the process required by law, especially only if there is a valid and reasonable cause for example as described in section 13.1 or expiry of rights of use acquired by Wargaming.
WG, laughs in Amarillo.
Armadillo, stupid auto correct.
Stop buying these “premium” tanks, we have seen that every time Some blogger mention that its is over powered. Wargaming Will nerf the tank and you as an buyer end up with an crap tank and lost slot of money
I bought it and got absolutely Rekt playing it. Anyone with spaced armor just laughed at my rockets then killed me 😂
I was driving my Sheridan and had a brown pants moment when a Monsterjager came round the bend on Airport. He then proceeded to empty his rocket salvo into me, ten hits with one pen, and I realized "oh, yeah, spaced armor." The 152mm HE enema follow-up was glorious. The Mighty Jingles was right. It is always better to give then to receive...
Good to know it’s not only just Warthunder players which suffer from this tank
It’s nowhere near as bad as how the weasel was!!!
No but it’s bad enough, and it’s not like era 2 needed more missile/rocket tanks to begin with.
It's broken, fun tank but it's definitely broken but not as much as the first Armadillo or Wiesel
Can’t believe that a bagel player is complaining about this tank!
I just played El Alamain in my leopard 2 AV I have both controlled impact and spall liner and a full speed collided with this thing and it shotguns me from Zero range and my game was done
No need to fix it, better fix the maps and add weather cenarios.... and the impact this tank had at era 2 is a lot less than the marders or begleitpanzers!
Nice job riki😊WG fix this tank. And anymore u don t hit and if u hit enemy tank u don t do any damage😂😂😂today i shoot enemy tank sideway and my missile go thru tank whitout any damage. And that happens every game i played. 😅😅😅
The begleidpanzers and marders are still more deadly than this thing. It is impossible to hit anything that is moving. Maybe the campers dislike this thing so much. The only big hits I had were on stationary targets that are oblivious to their surroundings.
@@vanhepad405 if you free aim while you're moving it's deadly but if you don't know how to do that I could see what you're saying
Agree the out of balance parts are intra clip reload and concealment (with the right setup).
The balance factor is the rockets are basically HEAT rockets. So limited effectiveness against anything with spaced armor. It’s like a better version of Ontos. A comparison to the Ontos would make a good video.
I bought the armadillo and payed good money for it and they nurffed it too shit it’s now it’s like a pensioner with a Zimmer frame spitting popcorn at everybody it has no teeth just because of people crying about it baby’s
It will take time to collect a large enough data set for WG to analyze exactly how impactful/OP it is. As players we're only seeing it through the player lens and don't have access to the global (entirety of the) data. By what metrics are we judging the (un)balance of the monsterjager? They have to be objective metrics rather than subjective (i.e. not based on how angry we get that they appear to be doing so well). Here's an experiment - over the next several days, record how many MJs are on each team, how often they are in the top 3, and also take a look at the player's WN8 and WR in both the MJ and how it compares to their overall stats. We can be upset all day long, but until we look at real objective stats, we are only going off feelings.
Great comments. I don't play era 2 and 3 anymore. No longer fun. Yolo full speed ahead and zero tactics.
We need bigger maps! I should have a chance to outrun these vehicles or at least shoot them 2 times before they reach me. I encountered 3 of them in a platoon, they reached my position in 30 secondes after the game started, and made swiss cheese out of me. I was able to hit one of them, but no time for a reload and a second shot. I didn't do enough damage anyway, to what should be a "Paper Tank" They went through our team like Tasmanian Devil's. It might be fun to the people playing these vehicles, but most of the time not for the Rest 😢
I completely agree riki
For your information, you BUY these tanks, you dont rent them. It already reads in a situation where you buy them whit gold.
Let's not fix it
Just when I thought era 2 was out of the woods, Wargaming decides to ruin one of my favorite eras with this literal monstrosity!
Era1 has the fv4005. It's broken but everybody loves it because everyone can get it without forking out cash😂
Its basically direct fire Arty that happens to be invisible and has the speed of a Light tank. It brings nothing to the game. Would the game as a whole be better of without it? Yes. Now all it does is, antagonise a lot of Era 2 players, reduce the player pool for Era 2 and increase negative attitudes towards WG and this game. Sadly, as it could have been avoided.
Congratulations! Y’all’s got what you wanted. They silently nerfed it to oblivion and now it’s not even playable. Rockets have the speed of the slowest ATGM’s now.
I've been playing WoT on Xbox for almost 9 years off and on. they have, without a doubt, ALWAYS been a "pay to win" profit company. the number of tanks that drop for both "unlock and buy" that get nerfed the update after they are no longer the "hot new tank" is innumerable. i have ground out multiple premium tanks (the Fatherland, the Chisel and the Machine are three that come to mind right off) that withing a week or two of them no longer being the "hot new thing" got the crap nerfed out of them... just to be replaced with another one. this tank will be no different. id bet they will get a standoff distance for arming, a longer reload and a wider shot spread before Christmas...
I haven't even watched this video yet and I 100% agree with the title. I feel like I've lost my ERA 2 enjoyment. 7 Monsterjagers per match (I know it's a new tank) is demoralizing. I will never own that tank. It's giving me AVRE vibes.
Yeah I call it a monsterjager holiday. NOT fun seeing 4 enemy jagers against 1 of ours…. Great match making, plus if you get caught with your pants down, you’re most likely done in one clip. An good luck trying the panzer tech tree line, that’s a pain right now. You get 2 rockets in a clip but have to wait in between reloads to shoot my 2 rocket 😂 an they can clip you with one volley.
As a buyer, i have the right to demand that since i have paid full price for it, it will remain as i bought it. Otherwise i as a consumer, will be scammed and demand my money back.
You are actually just renting the tank. Wargaming can change the tank if they want to.
@@MadsCC79go check wot store. U BUY all the tanks, you dont rent.
@@MadsCC79Noup u BUY them. Thats reads when u use gold get these tanks.
@@666kapuread the terms of service contract. It’s available online.
I'm a buyer myself but I recognize that this thing is ruining era 2
Rockets dont have minimum arming distance 😂
I just once again got annihilated by this thing in my full health Conqueror. I just jumped on RUclips to comment on a previous video saying the Monster needs to be removed or severely nerfed and this video was the first to pop up in my feed. 😂
Get wisesl 1 and take your vengence
@FitWithAryan Wouldn't stoop that low. They'll not have my money.
Think about. You buy new fast computer. And a one month after buing deweloper says that we update you comp and drop power at half.Thats ok? Noup it is cheating.Just same if WG drop these tanks specs after buying.
It's just disgusting. Most shots penetrate and there's no time to react. Makes me quit playing cw altogether
And now Wiesel 1 absolutely destroys it 😂 gg to those who bought this monster
The Devs continue to ruin gameplay with broken, overpowered tanks despite the numerous complaints. Both new Halloween tanks are ruining their respective modes.
Anyone who thinks that the Devs still care about the health of the game is simply ludicrous at this point. They’re in it for the short-term gain because they know that this game’s days are numbered. It’s not a matter of IF the game will die over the next year, but WHEN.
These Devs know their time is nearly up and are taking the cheap way out - milking as much money from the gullible window-licking turds and wallet warriors as possible before that stream runs dry.
Halving it's clip or lowering it's accuracy massively to avoid mid range spam plus massive concealment nerf
The leopard 1s were unplayable after the German lights were added then they added mim arm distances and I finally got the leopard 1a5. Now the add this thing and it's unplayable again because of the leopards lack of armour.😮💨
Tell me.... why do you know...KNOW, WG isn't running a pay to win tank scheme?
This happens a lot.
I won't say too much but I know some of the tank devs personally. There is a trust there that is not based on wishful thinking.
I used to play WII, CW Era 1 and Era 2. Never played the CW Era 3 clown show. Now I have to stop playing Era 2 as well because it turns to clown show 2?
Leave it alone people need to learn how to play
Couldn't agree more about the Jager - it's a tank made for inferior players to score - not much skill needed . I prefer a tank to play eg. the Type 63HG than the bullshit fantasy tanks
After a while you won’t see it much, not a weasel!
RIKI, these kinds of videos only attract people who know how to complain and whine about how nothing is good enough. When a special tank comes out, everyone gets excited, but when there’s nothing interesting, they all say pass. Make up your minds already!
Lately, most of the videos have mostly negative comments. I conclude that these comments are partly due to your recent change of opinion about the game. There’s frustration in your voice, and that only brings more frustration.
It’s not right to pay for a tank with certain specs, and then, just because many players don’t know how to play, think strategically, or move in the game, it gets nerfed.
This whole thing is becoming ridiculous! Learn to play this darn game, it doesn’t have any complicated mechanics.
By the way, you need to know where to be and how to position yourself to get good results with the tank. You’re complaining about the rockets: have you considered that the average number of penetrating rockets is around 5? Have you considered that the rockets aren’t guided? Have you considered that maybe the tank forces those who only know how to camp to move? Wake up! It’s just a game, and all I see lately in the comments and in the videos from July till now are complaints and whining.
All truth.
Exactly. It cannot be that at the insistence of one person, the mechanics of the game are interfered with. Just because it doesn t please him.
Always there are War Thunder.
Or stop playing this game😢
Leave it alone wargaming I love mine
I like no one talks about the night stalker it is a tier 9 477 molot it's armor is bs and the rockets are too strong I've been playing tier 8 and 9 and both tanks their standard and gold ammo aren't good enough to penetrate the tank in the lower plate and sides also most people I've seen play very aggressive like in CW but this WW2😂
Rockets don’t have a minimum arming distance that are armed as soon as they leave the tubes people need to learn how to play the game and stop crying about it baby’s
This is the most OP tank iwe encountered in 14 years, you dont see it coming and its a one hit game over, of cause its just a moneygrab from wargaming , buy this and enter God mode. But then again this game is a laggy mess most of the time these days anyway.
Anyone who has played this game for any amount of time can notice what you are saying immediately , here we go again they have ruined Ara 2 personally I think they do this to force people to buy these vehicles in order to be competitive I think this is purely a monitoring gain just pure greed on wargaming part when you look at the price of these vehicles in comparison to what they used to be to me personally it is obvious
I hope that wot dont touch that tanks specs. I paid +40€for it. And if they reduce performance of the tank, as happened whit e.g wiesel wagon. It s pissing off taking money from the buyer and then pissing the buyer off by undermining its original performance values. They would have to think about what kind of performance tanks they are releasing. It cannot be the case that a tank is realesed and in a months time its performance is reduced.
Or they should improve other tanks spec to balance it , bought many premiums in the past e.g VT2 they are no more competitive now
Lol
The minimum arm distance should be put on this tank and also the clip potential needs nerfing so they fire wayyyyy slower.
The arm distance should be similar to the weisel in era 3
I own this thing and I think it needs nerfing ,it's spoiling era 2
Played 1 era 2 game. Haven't been back.
Before this momsterjagar Era2 was relatively playable , especially after introduced the minim arm distance , and than wargaming ruined again the game with the monstaerjagar, I have to say it’s really stupid.
WoT pc pleb here
hearing that you only get spotted at 65 meters blew my mind
This tank has destroyed ERA2.
They fix the ATGM issue and then introduce this.
I quit playing the game for 3 months and I may be done forever.
Please correct me if I am wrong. It has the highest pen of all ERA2 Tanks.
its almost like they dont give two fucks about balance. its just a concept from days gone
Delete this P2W "Tank".
I’ve played this tank and have gone against it, please stop making it into a weasel type tank. It’s not changing things much!
It’s not going to change, people paid for the tank they purchased and not an alternative
The Weisl was the last straw for me...
WG is a money grab 200%. I’ve played the game since 2014 back when it was good. Now it’s a dying (nearly dead), game. And WG is milking it as much as possible before it dies for good. The Devs are failures. Their employee count comparative to previous proves that. WG is just a little Bungie. Die out just like Bungie.
Era2 was completely gone, bye war gaming
And the weisel tow is not healthy for the era 3. Buy it and enjoy it. Pay to win always has been wargamings way. Been playing for 8 odd years. Pay to win. Nerff the weisel?
Plus your playing the best possible map. Easy to have a good good on this map.