6:10 - it is so good to see team mates aware of wtf is going on and dropping back to help the sprinter ease on to the back of the break. Thanks for the video - the value of your content is outstanding.
I think I've liked every video this guy has done, and to this day I feel the urge add a comment to a quote like. I don't know how you do it, but the chemistry shared with each and every guest is seamless. Great ride and great video. p.s. Given that so many yokels hate bike riders, I'm curious to know how you manage to basically shut down an entire neighbourhood to stage a bike race. (you meaning organizers).
MG Gailitis There are pretty prevalent bike scenes here in California. Of course, There are a lot of people who aren’t too fond of riders, But communities are usually pretty quick to embrace a neighborhood race with open arms. A key factor is staging the course on side streets and avoiding main roads and highways, Thus eliminating frustration of people trying to get to and from work, Running errands etc. A lot of the organizers have people in them who are very respected by their communities. Here in SoCal, A lot of races are staged in industrial complexes’ on pretty vacant side roads so I imagine that concept kind of carries over to up north as well. I’m new to the sport so I don’t really know for sure. This is just my educated guess. What I do know is, I’m always happy to see a bike race so I could careless if one is staged in my neighborhood lol. I’m gonna be out there with the cowbell watching with excitement!!
In this situation (last lap) when someone stops pedalling after the lead out, he should stay out of the traffic. And that of course means no hitting the apex because this crash was absolutly his fault. Just watch pro peloton launching the sprinters and look how they get off the peloton's path
Why on earth is the finish line so close to a turn? Going 38mph and having to slip through barriers scared the crud out of me.....and i'm only watching from my couch
Regardless of your speed the dudes that crashed at 30 seconds, their fault...and they know it. You want the clean line to the finish you have to GET a clean line to the finish.
@@romankilun1527 Nice lead out! I almost recall you going down once (or twice???) at Suisun many years ago. Good to see you still riding at a really high level!.
I was going to say the same thing. They acted like "Oh well... We were going different speeds and he misjudged it, it was his fault." Definitely his fault. He should've pulled WAY off to the side. I mean what else could the guy behind him have done?
Disagree. You'd have to be there, the course is narrow and short. I was caught up in the crash, and Roman didn't do anything wrong. He did exactly what he should have: held his line going into the turn. Had he pulled "way off" like Max is suggesting, he would have infringed on another's line. IMO it was a judgement error on SP2, not that he is to blame, but maybe he changed his mind on which side to take and that caused him to slide out. It's bike racing. You take chances and not always do they work, out.
@@fergustanaka6641 Fair enough. I'm starting to agree with you more after re-watching it. Looks like he held a smooth line and left a bit of room on the inside, too. I personally panic pretty hard when I have to quickly decide to take the inner or outer line around a slower rider so I guess I sided with the crashed rider by default (I was pretty strongly polarized in my first comment.) He was obviously fatigued, maybe he planned on the inside line at first but couldn't hold it. Either way I hope everyone came out okay.
@@maxwell.l.greene Thanks for the civil discussion. It was an awkward moment for sure. My goal was to hold a predictable smooth line so people could pass on either side of me. And I would say that I mostly anticipated there to be riders coming on my outside (left) as that was the fast line from where I was. You can see that's where all the other guys are before the crash.
Perfect timing norcal drops a video as I chill in the bathroom.
me too LOL
lol same here
Your Mate deserves a beer for dropping back to help you bridge, He was aware of where you were w/out thinking.
Just made the same comment - great situational awareness.
6:10 - it is so good to see team mates aware of wtf is going on and dropping back to help the sprinter ease on to the back of the break. Thanks for the video - the value of your content is outstanding.
It is nice that you present a suboptimal race. From "mistakes" do we learn, not as if this race wasn't cool.
Thanks for the content!
Mike's Bikes really nailed their kit this year - it looks so good.
Thanks!
I really love these videos. I'm building my fitness and power so that i can be competent when I race, so these videos just get me excited for it :)
I think I've liked every video this guy has done, and to this day I feel the urge add a comment to a quote like. I don't know how you do it, but the chemistry shared with each and every guest is seamless. Great ride and great video. p.s. Given that so many yokels hate bike riders, I'm curious to know how you manage to basically shut down an entire neighbourhood to stage a bike race. (you meaning organizers).
This is an excellent question with out a question mark. Can we get an answer?
MG Gailitis There are pretty prevalent bike scenes here in California. Of course, There are a lot of people who aren’t too fond of riders, But communities are usually pretty quick to embrace a neighborhood race with open arms. A key factor is staging the course on side streets and avoiding main roads and highways, Thus eliminating frustration of people trying to get to and from work, Running errands etc. A lot of the organizers have people in them who are very respected by their communities. Here in SoCal, A lot of races are staged in industrial complexes’ on pretty vacant side roads so I imagine that concept kind of carries over to up north as well. I’m new to the sport so I don’t really know for sure. This is just my educated guess. What I do know is, I’m always happy to see a bike race so I could careless if one is staged in my neighborhood lol. I’m gonna be out there with the cowbell watching with excitement!!
In this situation (last lap) when someone stops pedalling after the lead out, he should stay out of the traffic. And that of course means no hitting the apex because this crash was absolutly his fault. Just watch pro peloton launching the sprinters and look how they get off the peloton's path
Another great video and top notch expert commentary.
Always nice when jeff drops a new vid :D
More Roman the better. Unless things have changed since I raced (which I doubt from what I've seen), he's the smartest racer in nor cal.
Jeff is now on team mikes bike amazing
Mad power equals mad speed. I’m practising. Nice analysis chaps.
Great content. Can't wait for the next Alviso crit!
Another great video, thanks Jeff!
Another interesting video, well done fellas
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Is it legal to have one person on your team go for it and solo it and if you were in the front of the pack slow down?
Conall Bradshaw yes, but has you slow down, attacks will come, specially if the peloton or the big group wants to chase
Rodrigo Santos I thought about attacks and thought oh yea but I was too far into the question to not ask. Thank you
Conall Bradshaw yeah, thank you
Serious speed.
What kinda camera do u use
Damn, that's a boring ass track :P Great video - and commentary - as always man!
what happened to "don't chase your teammates!"?
What are the cameras that you are using?
Gopros. I made a video about it check my channel 👍
guys , change your front tyres for something better , maybe new vittoria graphen 2.0 tyres ?
Dude, he wasn't at the limit of grip. He grabbed a bunch of front brake because he was going to hit the Mike's Bikes (purple) rider.
@@kidsafe ok !
Lol
Calibrate your power meter, please.
Power2max auto calibrates. But you're right, I think it's running a bit low 😆
was Vegan Cyclist there?
Why on earth is the finish line so close to a turn? Going 38mph and having to slip through barriers scared the crud out of me.....and i'm only watching from my couch
Welcome to crit racing.
I think everyone is at fault.
Regardless of your speed the dudes that crashed at 30 seconds, their fault...and they know it. You want the clean line to the finish you have to GET a clean line to the finish.
Mvp for roman
Thanks
@@romankilun1527 Nice lead out! I almost recall you going down once (or twice???) at Suisun many years ago. Good to see you still riding at a really high level!.
Why your average speed is 45- 50 kph? here in the phillippines we can average 40 kph only and can sprint up to 50-60 😁
All the corn and soy grows American boys big and strong
They averaged more like 42:ish. Attacks make those numbers go up but most of the time the meter read around 40 to 45 kphs.
Mike’s have some fugly kits but ride well.
pulled off the front and took the race line...kinda your fault
I was going to say the same thing. They acted like "Oh well... We were going different speeds and he misjudged it, it was his fault."
Definitely his fault. He should've pulled WAY off to the side. I mean what else could the guy behind him have done?
Disagree. You'd have to be there, the course is narrow and short. I was caught up in the crash, and Roman didn't do anything wrong. He did exactly what he should have: held his line going into the turn. Had he pulled "way off" like Max is suggesting, he would have infringed on another's line. IMO it was a judgement error on SP2, not that he is to blame, but maybe he changed his mind on which side to take and that caused him to slide out. It's bike racing. You take chances and not always do they work, out.
@@fergustanaka6641 Fair enough. I'm starting to agree with you more after re-watching it. Looks like he held a smooth line and left a bit of room on the inside, too.
I personally panic pretty hard when I have to quickly decide to take the inner or outer line around a slower rider so I guess I sided with the crashed rider by default (I was pretty strongly polarized in my first comment.) He was obviously fatigued, maybe he planned on the inside line at first but couldn't hold it. Either way I hope everyone came out okay.
@@maxwell.l.greene Thanks for the civil discussion. It was an awkward moment for sure. My goal was to hold a predictable smooth line so people could pass on either side of me. And I would say that I mostly anticipated there to be riders coming on my outside (left) as that was the fast line from where I was. You can see that's where all the other guys are before the crash.
Roman Kilun I watched it super slow, he hit the sandy spot on the apex with some weight on the front wheel.
Very Bad. You caused the crash. Move, get out the way! Get wide. Dummkaupf!