It's incredibley important to tell your kids no. No, we can't afford to take a vacation like that. No, I'm not going into DEBT for summer holidays. No, good, smart people don't spend money they don't have.
Kids should experience things if a parent is able. A modest debt, assuming you can pay it off in reasonable time, is not unforgivable. But not for an amusement park. Go to a National Park, or DC (museums are free). Expose your kids to something of the world that's real, not a ridiculously expensive theme park that has a fraction of the heart it once did.
Funnily enough I'm the one telling my mom "no" because she thinks I need to get the "Disney experience" even though I never wanted to go there even as a kid. I always thought if I we're to go anywhere I'd rather go to Legoland cause it seemed less hectic whenever I saw people go there in videos and I've never seen any of the same complaints that I see about Disney parks. Pretty sure that's still expensive though so I don't really have my hopes up for any big amusement parks.
@@tok713 DC is a cesspool. Go there if you want to have a high chance of being robbed or murdered. Nope. Same with NYC, LA, Detroit, Saint Louis, OKC, Portland, etc.
@@tok713 I appreciate a more moderate approach like yours but wouldn't it be better to NOT go into debt for a pleasure trip? Wouldn't it be better to show kids how you save up for something like this because going into debt is bad for the family? In reality saving first is not fundamentally different than going into debt because when you go into debt you have to set money aside each month to pay the debt off. The integrity level of saving as opposed to debt is much, much higher and it shows a child the importance of living within your means TODAY, and not sacrificing the future for an unnecessary pleasure.
@@darthlaurel It's the story of the grasshopper and the ant. Parables like that are ancient because people are people, no matter how modern society is 🙄 I'm special - just like everyone else. Sigh.
Parents need to realize that Disney Parks won't give the same high-quality experience like they used to. They used to treat everyone like VIPs. Now, they charge a king's ransom just to treat you like a peasant.
Are you supposed to be a peasant in the Magic Kingdom? The Fairy Godmother turns out to be Visa and married to his highness Master Card. All magic comes with a price.
@@Evangelionism Then ordinary people need to take responsibility for own dumb choices. Going to a Disney park is not mandatory to living. Going into financial debt to enjoy a park made for kids = failing at life.
Just Disney... it's a zombie theme park running on it's last legs. Go to Cedar Point, Six Flags, Kings Dominion or Kings Island. You can have fun without the Disney characters from the movies.
@@LuigiTheMetal64Not this hateful old wolf,and Cobain & Co. never were my favorite of the Seattle bands,my personal favorites were always AIC and Soundgarden.
I can't, for the life of me, grasp why people would go into debt over a vacation, let alone for one at an overglorified tourist trap for "modern audiences" that's an extention of an entertainment company that outspokenly hates you.
Back then it was actually worth it. Nowadays with things breaking down and the "subliminal" messaging pervading the park, you're paying to get shafted...
As someone with anxiety I really like the familiarity of Disney. I’m a homebody and I don’t really like traveling so I like knowing what to expect. That being said Disney has done a lot to make me not want to go. The change in DAS was my final straw.
We went to Disneyland back in the late 80's when I was a teenager. I remember SOME of the trip. My grandmother tried to strangle me on Space Mountain because she was scared. So was I but for different reasons . lol. I remember quite a few of the rides, but others are just a blank. I know I went on them... but I don't really remember them. Some rides I remember some of them, but not all of them. I DO remember Splash Mountain... What they did to it is a travesty...
Back in 1988 my parents finally dumped out the 5 gallon jug of change. I remember rolling coins for hours with my sisters. 5 gallons of silver change paid for our family of 5 to go to Disney World for a week. In 1996 I went to Disney World for the second time with a friend of mine. A coke in a vending machine somewhere in Epcot was $5. We were sick of spending our Disney bucks on overpriced everything and so we climbed the wall to escape Disney and walked down the road to a gas station where we bought 6 packs of coke for $3. We climbed back over the wall and no one was the wiser. We also got breakfast all day all week after a kitchen fire at the Beach Club.
This is like me crying about my debt if I took a week long trip to Paris, stayed at The Ritz and ate at fancy restaurants three times a day, drinking a bottle of Cristal each time. No one makes you take a vacation. Don't spend what you can't afford.
Disney doesn't realize that lower prices bring in more sales. Also no matter what the product is it should be about the customer and not the upper management.
Worst take ever. Demand is through the roof as people travel from all over the world to attend disney parks. Parks are always overcrowded. They could triple the prices , cut the crowd in half and make record profits off of wealthier families. And that's what they're doing. Half the park is local Florida's with discount annual passes who don't buy extras in the park anyway.
Went once in 84. Only reason we could afford it then was we stayed at friends living nearby, ate at home before going and when we got back, packed snacks, went for just 3 days, and it still cost more than we spent going all around for another 16 days to other parks and destinations. Not about to spend 4 month's mortgage payments for a 7 day vacation. Forget it.
My grandparents took me to Disney when I was little. I think I was 2 or 3. I barely remember any of it. I remember being afraid of the ducks quacking in the pond. That’s about it. And the only photo I had of me there was lost long ago. It was me posing with Eeyore.
I took my kids to Disney in 1995, the gate price was about $35.00 each. We were also able to go on tons of rides. We stayed through the evening, had a great day. I would never take my grandkids today
I have a family member who works for Disney and gets me in for free. Still winds up being an expensive to go. $60 for 2 genie plus passes, $35 for parking, $100 for food, so you're still dropping $100 per person for a day when you have free tickets!
back in the 80's when i lived in long beach and then huntington beach, i'd go to disneyland with my sister every couple of weeks on my lawnmowing and baby sitter money
My oldest son is married with two boys. He called to find out about a week long package at Disney World. It was approximately $16,000!!!! Without airfare! I told him to rent a bed and breakfast near Orlando and go to Universal.
Funny thing is years back my brother went with his sons Found nothing for boys there Wrote a big letter Suddenly they started having things for boys Was it the letter my brother wrote to them We never know
If you can’t afford it, or visiting will put you in a financial bind, don’t go! Same reason I bought a good used car for 28k instead of a brand new one for 85k. Be fiscally responsible!
My first car was a used Subaru. $300 and she was a freaking tank on speed. I could hit 30 mph in 1st gear. She ran for years for me, and she came to me with over a 100k in miles on her. Took some bozo not paying attention to kill my 1st car. I was so pissed at him. Got almost nothing because the car was old and had over 250k in miles on her. Not even enough to get her repaired or replaced.
All the people telling us that Disney's entertainment wing and studios don't even matter because they're so small, all money comes from the parks... And meanwhile the parks have doubled their prices while the share price has halved. Funny that.
Disney Entertainment is basically part of their advertising arm. If they can't make compelling show/movies to draw in the audience, less people will be willing to go to their parks. So no idea why they have been doing what they've been doing. This DEI nonsense is hurting their bottom line definitely in the long term for whatever possible short term gain they've gotten from investor groups. Guessing their C suite were getting large 'donations' for implementing the garbage they have been.
Not only have the food costs massively increased...they have cut down on the portions and quality as well. Like at Bengal BBQ at Disneyland CA, the skewers are now 3 sections of beef or chicken when it used to be 5 sections on a skewer and the price is higher now on top of that. The cookies and deserts quality has dropped off big time...most are stale garbage now, when there used to be some nice decent big chunky cookies in Pooh Corner, they were dry, hard and tasteless last time we tried to get one...
Disney likely reduced the portion size as well as increased the price. Would love to see the before and after sizes for those food items... Shrinkage...
Families: “But this is too much! We can’t even afford this anymore!” Darth Iger: “I am raising the prices. Pray I do not raise the prices any further.”
Who out there 🙋♂️ loves 💕 Kneon and Geeky Sparkles giving us the Doozy Dreadful Dirt for our Single, Double, Triple, Quadruple and Quintuple Double Daily Dose of Dismal Disney??? 😀
I love these two, I believe just like me they find many criticisms with Disney Parks yet still go because of their kids like me, it’s essentially for the kids memories of them having fun so very relatable
The worst part is, is that they're not even getting their money's worth, compared to 5 or 10 or 15+ years ago. My family was not what I'd consider well off, but we managed to make 2 trips to WDW in the 80s and 90s, and even stayed at the Polynesian the first time. We had to budget, and only bought some small souvenirs, but that's what a normal family vacation should be like. And we saw the parks at their best too, I still have fond memories of Dreamfinder and Figment.
The most interesting thing about Disney is that I’ve never been, I’m living proof that you can exist without going to Disney land or world, there is hope for you.
Same here. Not to mention that I live in Eastern Europe and it would have been very expensive, even back when my family was well off financially. Even that school trip to Disneyland Paris back in high-school was too expensive to be worth justifying.
I've never been to Disney either,but I'd love to fulfill my bucket list fantasy of flying to Edinburgh Scotland,where there are 36 pubs on one street alone,and do the ultimate pub crawl on New Year's Eve,and try to drink one pint in each pub. I know,to dream the impossible dream. 😂😂😂
I've financed 50 restaurant trips, several digital purchases, and many weeks of groceries with the money I saved from just Not going to any Disney property.
Well, if both parents and kids are Woke/DEI/LGBTQ (etc.) supporters -- you know, like the majority of so-called "Americans" nowadays (who also are Biden/Harris supporters/voters as well) -- they really DO belong at Disney. If that makes them go broke, no sympathy here. Disney losing money is just a bonus. -- BR
would'e assumed this was normal well known infomation their prices been jacked and getting moar jacked cause they keep putting prices up, they haven't exactly hid the fact. this is the same company that expected people to pay 5 grand for 2 nights in the star trek starship
A coworker of mine just racked up a ton of Disney debt about a month ago. She was excited to go but regrets it now. She didn't seem prepared for how expensive the parks and hotels have become. I still think a 5th gate in Orlando would be a huge mistake for Disney if that is what they're planning for D23.
Disney keeps sending me their credit card offers. Like there’s not enough families in debt to them ??? I keep ripping them up!! I wouldn’t get into debt for FISNEY!!!
Families shouldn't be ending up in the poor house in order to fund a trip to a Disney theme park. Esp given that there cheaper- & better alternatives like Universal & even Dollywood! Hopefully these families realize that before they end up in a financial hole due to this.
Going into debt for a short holiday is mind boggling. My dad used to save up coupons from the Sun newspaper for their £5 holidays at places like Butlins or caravan parks. We mostly did free activities and and packed lunches most days. I had the time of my life. My sister (different dads) got to go to Disney (France) with her grandparents. I asked my dad why we couldn't go and his response was "We're too poor and I can't afford it." and that was that. I didn't go abroad until my school trip to France when I was 12.
The financial literacy of some families is appauling. Is some stupid park worth eating and living like crap for the next several months/years? What if something unexpected happens, like a car crash? You're already in debt and will have to dig more to get out.
Mouse? I believe my favorite quote from The Great Mouse Detective is in order (points a solitary finger at Mickey) "You're a sly and contemptible sewer rat."
That's the problem with financially irresponsible people, they don't think of the long term consequences of their actions, and Disney is more than happy to exploit them.
I went in 2022 stayed off the park, hotel had pool hot tub and free breakfast. (7$ ubers to the park) stocked up from breakfast, had instant coffee packs, refillable collapsible water bottle, packs of peanut butter, packs of that chicken thats like tuna, apple sauce packs, i rarely ate in the park and when i did i ate buffets and took food back. Do not eat turkey legs or popcorn they are thirst traps! 1 souvenir max (if you want anything wait and treat yourself later to box lunch).
2022 I took my wife, niece and nephew. Budget all star trip. End of the 1 week trip it was over $11,000. Animal kingdom at the time, 4 slices of pizza with 4 sodas and 4 included side salads was $72. I've been going to WDW since the 80's. After that trip, never again. You can live at Universal for almost a month for the cost of a 1 week budget trip to disney.
We were too broke growing up to go to Disney as as the dreamy eyed kid who got her love of disney from her mother, I promised her when I grew up I would take her. We ironically had this conversation recently and have decided that the amount I'd planned to spend there will now be spent at Universal. We will get way more for our money and no longer support disney which has ruined my childhood favorites.
The last of our non expiration tickets we used this year. We are done for a very very long time. Price has a huge hand in why we won't be back. Since Iger was put in charge in early 2000's he has done nothing but raise prices and take things away. Time for a change as Disney has become expensive and very vanilla under his reign!
ok disney is awefull for their prices but why the frick are people going to the theme parks in the first place if they are that close to going into debt . also 3k just to go to a theme park ?! what the actual frick ?!
Why should I go with kids into theseterrible teamparks. Apart from being kitsch, these are not values that I do want instill into my kids. Its shallow American consumerism
Everywhere you go and buy. Everything is getting so super expensive. It feels like we are living in a world where only the rich and wealthy families can afford these things while families who make just enough or little money cannot afford it. I swear it feels like theme parks are only catering to families who have billions upon billions of dollars
I couldn't imagine going into debt to give their children a vacation at Disney. I grew up poor. Guess what?! We didn't go! Couldn't afford it. That's life.
i go to disney every year since 2018. it is still affordable for a lot of ppl. but these ppl are trying to have the "disney experience" and stay in the bubble. get you a motel in kissimmee, eat cheapo and have 1 nice character meal on site. stop living above your means.
We have decided to switch things up and instead of doing Disney we are doing dollywood. It looks amazing, they have a lot of perks that Disney had 10 years ago, and it sounds like an absolute blast.
Funny that I just cancelled my family trip due to all of the extra cost associated with the plan...I was at 7k for a family of 4 (5 day trip), before I pulled the plug lol. I haven't even got to the food and genie plus racket. I love Disney, but no thanks
I grew up with a Disneyland Annual Pass and wanted to share my happy memories with my son but Disney has now lost me & my money 100%. Everything has gone down hill in quality while prices go up. Plus now with app; my phone slipped out of my pocket rounding the curve of Indiana Jones and I could do nothing for 7 hours. The cast members at Disneyland were useless but thanks to screenshots we spent the afternoon at DCA where the cast members were amazing ❤️❤️ Disney World lost it's magic years ago and the Disney Cruises are now no better than any other cruise line, only more expensive.
It's so sad. The company starting with Igor and Kennedy keep sinking the company with failed projects. As the company's losing money they continue to fire employees and also raise prices from their theme parks to the streaming channels. Maybe they should stop doing whatever formula they are using and go back to what really works. At least try it . Reset to some old school family values and see what happens.
We used to be big Disney fans, visiting every few years. We honeymooned at WDW in 1971, when it just opened. Over the years when we would return, we noticed how overly crowded and crazy expensive it was getting. Went back in 2021, after not going for several years, for our 50th anniversary, and vowed (pun intended) to never go back.
Disney has been unaffordable for families for a while. People in Florida and California dont realize how much they are overpaid. Everything is excessively overpriced in those states amongst others like NY. "Hey guys, wanna spend crazy money to sit in line behind people with passes all day?!... Wait you dont? Its fine! We can just do a few rides and food... Nevermind"
To be fair, this is why budgeting is important. I hate how expensive it’s gotten compared to the value of what you’re getting, but saying that Disney is making people go broke would be like saying my book collection is making me broke because I don’t know how to stop buying them.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV exactly. I mean, to be fair, I’m fairly convinced a lot of preservatives and definitely sugar have addictive qualities to them and they’re extremely bad for you, but addiction is something that you can get over with enough effort. The problem is that people don’t realize things like sugar are addictive and they don’t realize how much they consume sometimes.
@@winry2357 It's reasonable to believe we have perfected recipes to prepare foods that make our tongues have a party and want to keep it going. But to go to a place and buy foods and either eat them there or take them home for later eating is a whole lot of choices in a row. When one notices their waist band exploding and they still haven't figured out how much they consume, that's either willful blindness or IQ issues, and a large budget.
@@winry2357 RUclips is hiding my reply. Unbelievable. I will try again in different words - food may taste yummy, but people have to make a lot of choices to be able to get that food and then eat that food - in a time that the body is not using it and lands up storing it - as fat. - My first reply was better worded but it's the same idea here.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV a lot of people don’t realize how bad it is for them. Even a lot of accepted science tells us that sugar is fine and when you’re busy with life, you can’t just sit in grocery aisles reading nutrition labels. Most people just check calorie count at best, not even realizing what a serving size is. To top it off, a lot of people don’t even fully understand what a calorie is or how much work it takes to counteract those calories they ingest. Back when people made all of their own food from scratch, they didn’t have to worry about that. It also took a lot more work to get those ingredients and they naturally worked out more. People think that what they do is hard work, but they don’t really understand what hard work is or how easy we have it.
All theme parks are expensive. Going to them is like any other big purchase. You need to plan ahead. You need to start saving about a year out. Doesn’t matter if you’re going to Disney or Universal. The issue is that most people don’t plan and they JUST GO. That’s where they start racking up numbers.
Knott's Berry Farm is not actually expensive and neither is Magic Mountain. They cost similar to going to the movies 2-3 times. Disney is like having to buy out the theater 2-3 times with multiple screens.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV - All depends on where you’re traveling from And how many people are going . But never been to either. May have to check them out. But I’ll have to fly or drive from Texas. That’s the key. Most of the US population doesn’t live near any given park in question. So the travel and lodging is always a huge chunk of the expense. I know it is for my family… every time. Just went to Orlando Informer. It was a relatively inexpensive way to go to Universal Florida as far as the tickets to get in. Then we had to book air fare, lodging, car fare, and food costs while traveling…
@@destinycaptain247 Magic Mountain is Six Flags, so it's a coaster place, but Knott's is a combination of a cheap Disney mixed with a coaster light Magic Mountain. But the food at Knott's is down right incredible. I mean it's really really good. I used drive from LA to OC, just to eat their famous chicken dinners. Yeah, it's that good. Then gas in CA went nuts and that ended that hobby.
When I was in high school, we'd go to Disneyland with friends. A day pass was $50 which could be earned by working 12 hours. Food...why? Transportation? Take the city bus.
I am surprised with the term being coined 'Disney Debt' that Disney itself hasn't opened up a creditline for park visitors that allows to just put every expenditure for the park -ticket, hotel, meals, snacks, etc- on a big pile and turns it into a loan to be paid off after the vacation at 'competitive rates'. Why get a debt at a bank and still be on a budget when you can get a Disney Debt and enjoy the park guilt-free until you see what you'll be paying off over twenty years. Also: Somewhere a finger on a monkeys paw curls up...
I work at a bookstore and i had a lady come in asking for disney tourist books. I really wanted to tell her not to go and save your money, but i didn't think it was my place to say. So i told her instead of a book, look up disney channels, and do research. I hope she changed her mind because it's not worth it to go at this price.
In all fairness, how many of these people would do the same to go on some overseas trip if they weren't going to Disney? I've known quite a number of people who go into debt to travel to Bali, party for a week, then spend the next year paying it off, just to do it all over again... They can't seem to grasp the idea of saving for a year first, then go party, so that they're not paying interest for a year.... Further to inflation, how much has California's huge minimum wage hikes impacted these prices?
The last time I went was on my honeymoon, and my new hubby and I did all the things you said. We had a hotel we walked from, had 1 meal in the park a day (splitting it between the 2 of us). The most we spent on besides the tickets (park hopping because we also went to Disney California) was the souvenirs, and even then we only got a couple. It was all paid for, too, over about 5 years of saving whenever possible, because we had a life together after the honeymoon to worry about.
I was at WDW in March and realized that I still love the parks. However, a combination of political missteps and the high cost of reservations makes it unlikely that i will return anytime soon.
Been to WDW many times in the past and never went into debt. We would book way ahead of time and make payments along the way then have a separate savings account for spending money. Then by the time vacation came resort and tickets where paid for and spending money was saved up.
Disney can only win us over if 1. They put back Splash Mountain, 2. They restore Journey Into Your Imagination to its original ride with Dreamfinder. 3. Their 5th park is a Dark Kingdom. They need to be bold and celebrate their villains. Not their live action sympathetic villains, their original animated film villains. The balls in your court Disney.
It's incredibley important to tell your kids no.
No, we can't afford to take a vacation like that.
No, I'm not going into DEBT for summer holidays. No, good, smart people don't spend money they don't have.
Kids should experience things if a parent is able. A modest debt, assuming you can pay it off in reasonable time, is not unforgivable. But not for an amusement park. Go to a National Park, or DC (museums are free). Expose your kids to something of the world that's real, not a ridiculously expensive theme park that has a fraction of the heart it once did.
Funnily enough I'm the one telling my mom "no" because she thinks I need to get the "Disney experience" even though I never wanted to go there even as a kid. I always thought if I we're to go anywhere I'd rather go to Legoland cause it seemed less hectic whenever I saw people go there in videos and I've never seen any of the same complaints that I see about Disney parks. Pretty sure that's still expensive though so I don't really have my hopes up for any big amusement parks.
@@tok713 DC is a cesspool. Go there if you want to have a high chance of being robbed or murdered. Nope. Same with NYC, LA, Detroit, Saint Louis, OKC, Portland, etc.
@@tok713 I appreciate a more moderate approach like yours but wouldn't it be better to NOT go into debt for a pleasure trip? Wouldn't it be better to show kids how you save up for something like this because going into debt is bad for the family? In reality saving first is not fundamentally different than going into debt because when you go into debt you have to set money aside each month to pay the debt off. The integrity level of saving as opposed to debt is much, much higher and it shows a child the importance of living within your means TODAY, and not sacrificing the future for an unnecessary pleasure.
@@darthlaurel It's the story of the grasshopper and the ant. Parables like that are ancient because people are people, no matter how modern society is 🙄
I'm special - just like everyone else. Sigh.
Parents need to realize that Disney Parks won't give the same high-quality experience like they used to. They used to treat everyone like VIPs. Now, they charge a king's ransom just to treat you like a peasant.
Are you supposed to be a peasant in the Magic Kingdom? The Fairy Godmother turns out to be Visa and married to his highness Master Card. All magic comes with a price.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV No. The Disney Parks used to treat all guests like royalty. Now, they charge 3x the price for 1/3rd of the quality.
@@365ral Walt had a dream and made it real. Eiger had a vision of wealth and made it real. We have a hunger for Walt and are eating Eiger's scraps.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV Well, the wealth isn't so real anymore with the billions of dollars Disney lost under Iger, and will continue losing.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV Well, the wealth isn't so real anymore with the billions Disney has lost under Iger.
Stop going to the stupid theme parks. You can't afford it. The company sucks. Stop giving them money.
WE know that, but what about ordinary people who don't watch critical Disney RUclips?
sadly some people are either too dumb or too addicted to living outside their means to care.
@@Evangelionism Then ordinary people need to take responsibility for own dumb choices. Going to a Disney park is not mandatory to living. Going into financial debt to enjoy a park made for kids = failing at life.
Just Disney... it's a zombie theme park running on it's last legs.
Go to Cedar Point, Six Flags, Kings Dominion or Kings Island.
You can have fun without the Disney characters from the movies.
@@legiran9564 Agreed 100%
When the most memorable part of a family trip is the crippling debt gained by taking it, you know something is wrong.
It lets you remember the trip every first of the month for about 7 years as you slowly, slowly pay off that 29% credit card debt.
But at least the money os dorected at good causes 🤣🤣🤣
Kinda like the college experience
That's why there needs to be visitor's insurance for visits to Disney.
@@Jan-hx9rwdebt sucks
I saw a short where a family of 4 spent $3,600 for one day at Disney and only went on 2 rides.🤯
Oh Lord.
Even with fast pass we only got on 2 rides.
Why are people continuing to pay money for Dismal,Decaying and dysfunctional Disney? Going into debt for Disney is stupid.
Perception has not caught up with reality yet.
Some people act like they can not live without Disney. It like the grungies who think they can not live without Kurt Cobain.
It’s not just Super Nintendo World that’ll get families to flock to Epic Universe. It’s bound to be much cheaper than Disneyworld/land.
@@LuigiTheMetal64Not this hateful old wolf,and Cobain &
Co. never were my favorite of the Seattle bands,my personal favorites were always AIC and Soundgarden.
@@zacharymcmillan2788 Even Winger are better than Metallica. Metallica are basically like Disney, and Winger are still musically diverse and fun.
I can't, for the life of me, grasp why people would go into debt over a vacation, let alone for one at an overglorified tourist trap for "modern audiences" that's an extention of an entertainment company that outspokenly hates you.
Back then it was actually worth it. Nowadays with things breaking down and the "subliminal" messaging pervading the park, you're paying to get shafted...
A profound sort of immaturity, is my guess.
vast majority of people are, in fact, very stupid.
As someone with anxiety I really like the familiarity of Disney. I’m a homebody and I don’t really like traveling so I like knowing what to expect. That being said Disney has done a lot to make me not want to go. The change in DAS was my final straw.
Nostalgia + Idiocracy
What's worse are parents of younger children failing to realize that after all the money spent most kids won't remember the trip at all.
Yes they would if they are over
We went to Disneyland back in the late 80's when I was a teenager. I remember SOME of the trip. My grandmother tried to strangle me on Space Mountain because she was scared. So was I but for different reasons . lol. I remember quite a few of the rides, but others are just a blank. I know I went on them... but I don't really remember them. Some rides I remember some of them, but not all of them. I DO remember Splash Mountain... What they did to it is a travesty...
Back in 1988 my parents finally dumped out the 5 gallon jug of change. I remember rolling coins for hours with my sisters.
5 gallons of silver change paid for our family of 5 to go to Disney World for a week.
In 1996 I went to Disney World for the second time with a friend of mine. A coke in a vending machine somewhere in Epcot was $5. We were sick of spending our Disney bucks on overpriced everything and so we climbed the wall to escape Disney and walked down the road to a gas station where we bought 6 packs of coke for $3. We climbed back over the wall and no one was the wiser. We also got breakfast all day all week after a kitchen fire at the Beach Club.
Disney is thinking to themselves "How do we get the other 55% to go into debt?"
This'll for sure decrease the value of the parks. They were probably the last bits of customers Disney had left.
Knowing full well the answer is for them to become producers of flop Disney+ shows that cost more per episode than all of Godzilla -1.
Umm, I do believe it's called Disney+ or whatever they are calling their subscription nowadays.
Rupert
@@TheRadioAteMyTVand 10 mario movies
Disney is overpriced
And overrated.
and it's animatronics underpowered! :)
Bingo.
@@mirceazaharia2094that's insulting to overrated parks
@@eclipsehorse8693by modern standards
This is like me crying about my debt if I took a week long trip to Paris, stayed at The Ritz and ate at fancy restaurants three times a day, drinking a bottle of Cristal each time. No one makes you take a vacation. Don't spend what you can't afford.
Disney doesn't realize that lower prices bring in more sales. Also no matter what the product is it should be about the customer and not the upper management.
As long as there are people willing to pay those prices they will keep charging them.
Worst take ever. Demand is through the roof as people travel from all over the world to attend disney parks. Parks are always overcrowded. They could triple the prices , cut the crowd in half and make record profits off of wealthier families. And that's what they're doing. Half the park is local Florida's with discount annual passes who don't buy extras in the park anyway.
He'll, more than HALF the "Upper Management" needs to be canned anyway. Starting with KK and Iger.
Went once in 84. Only reason we could afford it then was we stayed at friends living nearby, ate at home before going and when we got back, packed snacks, went for just 3 days, and it still cost more than we spent going all around for another 16 days to other parks and destinations.
Not about to spend 4 month's mortgage payments for a 7 day vacation. Forget it.
So even way back then Disney was only catering to the rich elite. Fuck these big wigs.
You ate snacks for 3 days?
My grandparents took me to Disney when I was little. I think I was 2 or 3. I barely remember any of it. I remember being afraid of the ducks quacking in the pond. That’s about it. And the only photo I had of me there was lost long ago. It was me posing with Eeyore.
“I hope you had fun kids, it was either this or send you to college.”
"Enjoy working menial jobs for the rest of your lives,all because you wanted to go to
Disneyworld."
As if college is any better.
College is not the guarantee of a better life it once was. Ask a teacher.
Honestly college isn’t worth it at this point
Believe you me, I know college is a waste of time, energy, and money, but the trope is “saving up for your kid’s college fund.
I took my kids to Disney in 1995, the gate price was about $35.00 each. We were also able to go on tons of rides. We stayed through the evening, had a great day. I would never take my grandkids today
Not just disney, If you need to go into debt to go for a trip, you can't afford it.
Thanks to Bidenomics you can go into debt taking a trip to the grocery store.
I have a family member who works for Disney and gets me in for free. Still winds up being an expensive to go. $60 for 2 genie plus passes, $35 for parking, $100 for food, so you're still dropping $100 per person for a day when you have free tickets!
Honestly I have more fun staying at home playing video games and watching movies. Rather than wasting time and money on Disney.
I like to watch Stargate and spinoffs.
Ideally single player games with complete content and story to complete for me👍🏾 that and binge watch watch Godzilla and Pokemon movies
Same here, along with watching classic shows on Tubi
#TubiSummer
@@Jonathonconroysame here
Go outside, guys
back in the 80's when i lived in long beach and then huntington beach, i'd go to disneyland with my sister every couple of weeks on my lawnmowing and baby sitter money
The logic of the Abusers at Disney is, IT'S YOUR FAULT THEIR MOVIES ARE FAILURES, YOU MUST BE PUNISHED, one way or another.
At this point, taking your children to any of these American Disney theme parks should be seen as a form of cruel and unusual punishment.
My oldest son is married with two boys. He called to find out about a week long package at Disney World. It was approximately $16,000!!!! Without airfare! I told him to rent a bed and breakfast near Orlando and go to Universal.
Funny thing is years back my brother went with his sons
Found nothing for boys there
Wrote a big letter
Suddenly they started having things for boys
Was it the letter my brother wrote to them
We never know
If you can’t afford it, or visiting will put you in a financial bind, don’t go!
Same reason I bought a good used car for 28k instead of a brand new one for 85k.
Be fiscally responsible!
My first car was a used Subaru. $300 and she was a freaking tank on speed. I could hit 30 mph in 1st gear. She ran for years for me, and she came to me with over a 100k in miles on her. Took some bozo not paying attention to kill my 1st car. I was so pissed at him. Got almost nothing because the car was old and had over 250k in miles on her. Not even enough to get her repaired or replaced.
The theater for a film $6 matinee $9 small pop corn. $5 for a small pop. The greed is sick.
So don't pay.
All the people telling us that Disney's entertainment wing and studios don't even matter because they're so small, all money comes from the parks...
And meanwhile the parks have doubled their prices while the share price has halved. Funny that.
Disney Entertainment is basically part of their advertising arm. If they can't make compelling show/movies to draw in the audience, less people will be willing to go to their parks. So no idea why they have been doing what they've been doing. This DEI nonsense is hurting their bottom line definitely in the long term for whatever possible short term gain they've gotten from investor groups. Guessing their C suite were getting large 'donations' for implementing the garbage they have been.
Not only have the food costs massively increased...they have cut down on the portions and quality as well. Like at Bengal BBQ at Disneyland CA, the skewers are now 3 sections of beef or chicken when it used to be 5 sections on a skewer and the price is higher now on top of that. The cookies and deserts quality has dropped off big time...most are stale garbage now, when there used to be some nice decent big chunky cookies in Pooh Corner, they were dry, hard and tasteless last time we tried to get one...
And you're not allowed to bring your own food and drink.
Disney likely reduced the portion size as well as increased the price.
Would love to see the before and after sizes for those food items...
Shrinkage...
No company budget cuts their way into profitability. Disney is in managed decline.
Families: “But this is too much! We can’t even afford this anymore!”
Darth Iger: “I am raising the prices. Pray I do not raise the prices any further.”
Families: "OK then! We're never going to your parks ever again! Have fun going broke."
Darth Iger: "Nooooooooooooo!"
Not sure why, but I imagined that with the voice of Rick Moranis in Space Balls when he's talking through the helmet.
Absolutely! And he looks like Jar-Jar Binks's idiot cousin... you know, the one that makes Jar-Jar look intelligent by comparison?
Inb4 Bob Iger announces another price increase.
Maybe because all there movies are taking a massive nose dive lol .... Disney is done . Unless you like that gay sh.t
It's crazy to go into debt just to stand in line half the day. IMHO, anyway.
Makes no sense to me why people waste their hard earned money on Disney theme parks.
Who out there 🙋♂️ loves 💕 Kneon and Geeky Sparkles giving us the Doozy Dreadful Dirt for our Single, Double, Triple, Quadruple and Quintuple Double Daily Dose of Dismal Disney??? 😀
And a woo hoo!
I love these two, I believe just like me they find many criticisms with Disney Parks yet still go because of their kids like me, it’s essentially for the kids memories of them having fun so very relatable
The worst part is, is that they're not even getting their money's worth, compared to 5 or 10 or 15+ years ago. My family was not what I'd consider well off, but we managed to make 2 trips to WDW in the 80s and 90s, and even stayed at the Polynesian the first time. We had to budget, and only bought some small souvenirs, but that's what a normal family vacation should be like. And we saw the parks at their best too, I still have fond memories of Dreamfinder and Figment.
The most interesting thing about Disney is that I’ve never been, I’m living proof that you can exist without going to Disney land or world, there is hope for you.
Same here. Not to mention that I live in Eastern Europe and it would have been very expensive, even back when my family was well off financially.
Even that school trip to Disneyland Paris back in high-school was too expensive to be worth justifying.
I've never been to Disney either,but I'd love to fulfill my bucket list fantasy of flying to Edinburgh Scotland,where there are 36 pubs on one street alone,and do the ultimate pub crawl on New Year's Eve,and try to drink one pint in each pub. I know,to dream the impossible dream.
😂😂😂
Ditto.
I've financed 50 restaurant trips, several digital purchases, and many weeks of groceries with the money I saved from just Not going to any Disney property.
You missed a great time
At this point going to Disney isn't vacation, it's natural selection.
Well, if both parents and kids are Woke/DEI/LGBTQ (etc.) supporters -- you know, like the majority of so-called "Americans" nowadays (who also are Biden/Harris supporters/voters as well) -- they really DO belong at Disney. If that makes them go broke, no sympathy here. Disney losing money is just a bonus.
-- BR
would'e assumed this was normal well known infomation
their prices been jacked and getting moar jacked cause they keep putting prices up, they haven't exactly hid the fact.
this is the same company that expected people to pay 5 grand for 2 nights in the star trek starship
A coworker of mine just racked up a ton of Disney debt about a month ago. She was excited to go but regrets it now. She didn't seem prepared for how expensive the parks and hotels have become.
I still think a 5th gate in Orlando would be a huge mistake for Disney if that is what they're planning for D23.
I went to Disney recently and we didn’t go overboard and we planned for it. I know Disney has its issues but I always enjoy myself.
I went on a Disney cruise. The reason I did not go into debt was because my in-laws paid for everything I would've never been able to do that.
Disney keeps sending me their credit card offers. Like there’s not enough families in debt to them ??? I keep ripping them up!! I wouldn’t get into debt for FISNEY!!!
I have one, and I use that card on everything BUT Disney related crap! :)
Disney stands against the nuclear family. I'm alone. What purpose is there for me to go to Disney
The people that spend money on Disneyland without thinking about the costs or consequences seriously need mental help! 😞
Families shouldn't be ending up in the poor house in order to fund a trip to a Disney theme park. Esp given that there cheaper- & better alternatives like Universal & even Dollywood!
Hopefully these families realize that before they end up in a financial hole due to this.
Universal isn’t much cheaper
I'd love to go to Dollywood!
@@gemlife1329 same I’m going in October!
Going into debt for a short holiday is mind boggling. My dad used to save up coupons from the Sun newspaper for their £5 holidays at places like Butlins or caravan parks. We mostly did free activities and and packed lunches most days. I had the time of my life.
My sister (different dads) got to go to Disney (France) with her grandparents. I asked my dad why we couldn't go and his response was "We're too poor and I can't afford it." and that was that. I didn't go abroad until my school trip to France when I was 12.
Dad and Mom seeing the higher prices for Disneyworld next year: “Whelp kids, we’re going to Epic Universe”.
The financial literacy of some families is appauling. Is some stupid park worth eating and living like crap for the next several months/years? What if something unexpected happens, like a car crash? You're already in debt and will have to dig more to get out.
How DARE they complain about paying tribute to the mouse!
Mouse? I believe my favorite quote from The Great Mouse Detective is in order (points a solitary finger at Mickey) "You're a sly and contemptible sewer rat."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's the problem with financially irresponsible people, they don't think of the long term consequences of their actions, and Disney is more than happy to exploit them.
I went in 2022 stayed off the park, hotel had pool hot tub and free breakfast. (7$ ubers to the park) stocked up from breakfast, had instant coffee packs, refillable collapsible water bottle, packs of peanut butter, packs of that chicken thats like tuna, apple sauce packs, i rarely ate in the park and when i did i ate buffets and took food back. Do not eat turkey legs or popcorn they are thirst traps! 1 souvenir max (if you want anything wait and treat yourself later to box lunch).
2022 I took my wife, niece and nephew. Budget all star trip. End of the 1 week trip it was over $11,000. Animal kingdom at the time, 4 slices of pizza with 4 sodas and 4 included side salads was $72. I've been going to WDW since the 80's. After that trip, never again. You can live at Universal for almost a month for the cost of a 1 week budget trip to disney.
My parents spent 5k for 5 people for 2 weeks in FL including WDW back in the 80s...
the idea of paying money to stand in line is insane to me. it just does not sound like fun to me
eff, I can do that for free and get better entertainment at WAL MART
We were too broke growing up to go to Disney as as the dreamy eyed kid who got her love of disney from her mother, I promised her when I grew up I would take her. We ironically had this conversation recently and have decided that the amount I'd planned to spend there will now be spent at Universal. We will get way more for our money and no longer support disney which has ruined my childhood favorites.
The last of our non expiration tickets we used this year. We are done for a very very long time. Price has a huge hand in why we won't be back. Since Iger was put in charge in early 2000's he has done nothing but raise prices and take things away. Time for a change as Disney has become expensive and very vanilla under his reign!
ok disney is awefull for their prices but why the frick are people going to the theme parks in the first place if they are that close to going into debt . also 3k just to go to a theme park ?! what the actual frick ?!
Universal Studios >>>> Disneyland / Disney World
Nope
Who borrows money to go on vacation?
Disney asskissers
Disney: "I see this as an absolute win!"
Why should I go with kids into theseterrible teamparks. Apart from being kitsch, these are not values that I do want instill into my kids. Its shallow American consumerism
How DARE YOU not engage in worshipping this modern golden calf and going broke over it? BIGOT! 😤
/s
What would make you change your mind on theme parks? They've been in America for more than a century.
It's always been bad. My father went to a travel agency in the 1980s for a Disney vacation with a few grand. They laughed him out of the office. 😡
Mickey is becoming Eugene Crabbs. Even Scrooge McDuck isn't as much of cheapskate as Iger or Cheapekk.
Everywhere you go and buy. Everything is getting so super expensive. It feels like we are living in a world where only the rich and wealthy families can afford these things while families who make just enough or little money cannot afford it. I swear it feels like theme parks are only catering to families who have billions upon billions of dollars
I couldn't imagine going into debt to give their children a vacation at Disney. I grew up poor. Guess what?! We didn't go! Couldn't afford it. That's life.
And now ur screwed up because of it
Middle Class: I have the worst bills in the world. 😣
Disneyworld: Hold my cheese.
Middle Class: 😐
i go to disney every year since 2018. it is still affordable for a lot of ppl. but these ppl are trying to have the "disney experience" and stay in the bubble. get you a motel in kissimmee, eat cheapo and have 1 nice character meal on site. stop living above your means.
Putting families in debt pleases Darth Igor and his master emperor Larry Fink.
No shit.
We have decided to switch things up and instead of doing Disney we are doing dollywood. It looks amazing, they have a lot of perks that Disney had 10 years ago, and it sounds like an absolute blast.
Funny that I just cancelled my family trip due to all of the extra cost associated with the plan...I was at 7k for a family of 4 (5 day trip), before I pulled the plug lol. I haven't even got to the food and genie plus racket. I love Disney, but no thanks
I would rather spend my entire day at the local mall than go to Disneyland.
I grew up with a Disneyland Annual Pass and wanted to share my happy memories with my son but Disney has now lost me & my money 100%. Everything has gone down hill in quality while prices go up. Plus now with app; my phone slipped out of my pocket rounding the curve of Indiana Jones and I could do nothing for 7 hours. The cast members at Disneyland were useless but thanks to screenshots we spent the afternoon at DCA where the cast members were amazing ❤️❤️
Disney World lost it's magic years ago and the Disney Cruises are now no better than any other cruise line, only more expensive.
Fools and their money are soon parted.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
They should go to any of the Universal Theme Parks
This is Disney's fault? See the old idiom: "A fool and his money are soon parted" or, as P. T. Barnum said: "There's a sucker born every minute."
It's so sad. The company starting with Igor and Kennedy keep sinking the company with failed projects. As the company's losing money they continue to fire employees and also raise prices from their theme parks to the streaming channels. Maybe they should stop doing whatever formula they are using and go back to what really works. At least try it . Reset to some old school family values and see what happens.
We used to be big Disney fans, visiting every few years. We honeymooned at WDW in 1971, when it just opened. Over the years when we would return, we noticed how overly crowded and crazy expensive it was getting. Went back in 2021, after not going for several years, for our 50th anniversary, and vowed (pun intended) to never go back.
Imagine going into debt for Disney 😂
Universal is even worse 😂
Disney has been unaffordable for families for a while. People in Florida and California dont realize how much they are overpaid. Everything is excessively overpriced in those states amongst others like NY. "Hey guys, wanna spend crazy money to sit in line behind people with passes all day?!... Wait you dont? Its fine! We can just do a few rides and food... Nevermind"
To be fair, this is why budgeting is important. I hate how expensive it’s gotten compared to the value of what you’re getting, but saying that Disney is making people go broke would be like saying my book collection is making me broke because I don’t know how to stop buying them.
Or (insert name of food producer) is making me severely obese, not my shoveling it all in all day long every day.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV exactly. I mean, to be fair, I’m fairly convinced a lot of preservatives and definitely sugar have addictive qualities to them and they’re extremely bad for you, but addiction is something that you can get over with enough effort. The problem is that people don’t realize things like sugar are addictive and they don’t realize how much they consume sometimes.
@@winry2357 It's reasonable to believe we have perfected recipes to prepare foods that make our tongues have a party and want to keep it going. But to go to a place and buy foods and either eat them there or take them home for later eating is a whole lot of choices in a row. When one notices their waist band exploding and they still haven't figured out how much they consume, that's either willful blindness or IQ issues, and a large budget.
@@winry2357 RUclips is hiding my reply. Unbelievable. I will try again in different words - food may taste yummy, but people have to make a lot of choices to be able to get that food and then eat that food - in a time that the body is not using it and lands up storing it - as fat. - My first reply was better worded but it's the same idea here.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV a lot of people don’t realize how bad it is for them. Even a lot of accepted science tells us that sugar is fine and when you’re busy with life, you can’t just sit in grocery aisles reading nutrition labels. Most people just check calorie count at best, not even realizing what a serving size is. To top it off, a lot of people don’t even fully understand what a calorie is or how much work it takes to counteract those calories they ingest. Back when people made all of their own food from scratch, they didn’t have to worry about that. It also took a lot more work to get those ingredients and they naturally worked out more. People think that what they do is hard work, but they don’t really understand what hard work is or how easy we have it.
All theme parks are expensive. Going to them is like any other big purchase. You need to plan ahead. You need to start saving about a year out. Doesn’t matter if you’re going to Disney or Universal. The issue is that most people don’t plan and they JUST GO. That’s where they start racking up numbers.
Knott's Berry Farm is not actually expensive and neither is Magic Mountain. They cost similar to going to the movies 2-3 times. Disney is like having to buy out the theater 2-3 times with multiple screens.
@@TheRadioAteMyTV - All depends on where you’re traveling from And how many people are going . But never been to either. May have to check them out. But I’ll have to fly or drive from Texas. That’s the key. Most of the US population doesn’t live near any given park in question. So the travel and lodging is always a huge chunk of the expense. I know it is for my family… every time. Just went to Orlando Informer. It was a relatively inexpensive way to go to Universal Florida as far as the tickets to get in. Then we had to book air fare, lodging, car fare, and food costs while traveling…
@@destinycaptain247 Magic Mountain is Six Flags, so it's a coaster place, but Knott's is a combination of a cheap Disney mixed with a coaster light Magic Mountain. But the food at Knott's is down right incredible. I mean it's really really good. I used drive from LA to OC, just to eat their famous chicken dinners. Yeah, it's that good. Then gas in CA went nuts and that ended that hobby.
I mean...just stop going. You don't need a trip to disney.
When I was in high school, we'd go to Disneyland with friends. A day pass was $50 which could be earned by working 12 hours. Food...why? Transportation? Take the city bus.
I am surprised with the term being coined 'Disney Debt' that Disney itself hasn't opened up a creditline for park visitors that allows to just put every expenditure for the park -ticket, hotel, meals, snacks, etc- on a big pile and turns it into a loan to be paid off after the vacation at 'competitive rates'. Why get a debt at a bank and still be on a budget when you can get a Disney Debt and enjoy the park guilt-free until you see what you'll be paying off over twenty years.
Also: Somewhere a finger on a monkeys paw curls up...
I work at a bookstore and i had a lady come in asking for disney tourist books. I really wanted to tell her not to go and save your money, but i didn't think it was my place to say. So i told her instead of a book, look up disney channels, and do research. I hope she changed her mind because it's not worth it to go at this price.
In all fairness, how many of these people would do the same to go on some overseas trip if they weren't going to Disney? I've known quite a number of people who go into debt to travel to Bali, party for a week, then spend the next year paying it off, just to do it all over again... They can't seem to grasp the idea of saving for a year first, then go party, so that they're not paying interest for a year....
Further to inflation, how much has California's huge minimum wage hikes impacted these prices?
Iger: Hmmm what if I raise the prices even higher? Will that solve the problem?
Probably, at this point it is mostly a hardcore mouse simps who go to this park, with money to burn or willing to go into a debt.
If you can't afford Disney, go to the beach ffs
Was beginning to think CFTV was about to leave us all headed into the weekend without any new episodes. 😅 Goddamnit❤
The last time I went was on my honeymoon, and my new hubby and I did all the things you said. We had a hotel we walked from, had 1 meal in the park a day (splitting it between the 2 of us). The most we spent on besides the tickets (park hopping because we also went to Disney California) was the souvenirs, and even then we only got a couple. It was all paid for, too, over about 5 years of saving whenever possible, because we had a life together after the honeymoon to worry about.
How? No one force them to go
I haven’t been to Disney in years. It’s a choice people and they always been expensive
I was at WDW in March and realized that I still love the parks. However, a combination of political missteps and the high cost of reservations makes it unlikely that i will return anytime soon.
Been to WDW many times in the past and never went into debt. We would book way ahead of time and make payments along the way then have a separate savings account for spending money. Then by the time vacation came resort and tickets where paid for and spending money was saved up.
Broken down rides and bearded Disney princesses aren't even worth a reasonable price.
My wife wanted to go this year (2024).
We have 4 kids.
She nearly divorced me for putting my foot down.
Can you find another way to make happy holiday memories with your family? Somewhere else you can go?
@kellysouter4381 That's gotta be the dumbest question I've heard in a while.
Literally anything not involving disney would count.
Your better off visiting Crush at SeaWorld or Marty at Bush Gardens Seeing Mickey acquires you to be rich
Your Better see shamu
@@jaceWorl what's shamu is that a park I don't know about?
Shamu from SeaWorld
@@TheLastFazbear I’d rather go to Freddy Fazbear’s. 😉
Careful you don't overdose on dismal disney.
Id rather save that money for the kids first car than a single vacation. Would say save for college but that is too expensive.
Disney can only win us over if 1. They put back Splash Mountain,
2. They restore Journey Into Your Imagination to its original ride with Dreamfinder.
3. Their 5th park is a Dark Kingdom. They need to be bold and celebrate their villains. Not their live action sympathetic villains, their original animated film villains.
The balls in your court Disney.
Also build a Stitch ride again. I want to ride one now that I learned of the one in the early 2000s.