Paul, Dave and John, thank you for keeping Paul’s life work and memory alive in the awesome way you are. He lived to work and loved every minute of it. Our very last conversation was about work. He loved and respected you all so much, you were his Brothers in Arms. Keeping the industry on its toes is the best way to keep everyone moving forward. Keep it up guys. You’re the best. Yvonne Skyrme xx
Thank you Gentlemen for the evident hard work you have put into this video. Thought provoking. Thank you also for your kind words. Bless our good friend and mentor Mr Paul Skyrme 👊😎👍💙
Very informative as always. A beautiful piece and eulogy to Paul Skyrme and tribute to his family. Well deserved and thank you for your service team E5 .
Every Firefighters' death is a tragedy and their sacrifice and dedication is to be remembered. 30 or so electricians die on average each year in the UK. According to the UK firefighters union at least 122 have died since 1978.
Thank you very much again for all the time and effort you put in to make life a little easier for the electrical industry. Wish I was half as clever as you lads, lots to think about and ponder.👏
Damn!! The regs just twist my brain! I'm not the best electrician in the world but I do want to continually strive to be better.. Trying to navigate and understand everything in that damn book with ADHD is an ongoing challenge. These videos really help. Thank you.
On the Gas PME question… Plastic inserts in old installs are not possible due to the ECV being indoors - No plastic permitted indoors on gas. The Gas supplier however do insert Ceramic links on the cast iron by the ECV
Thankyou for doing this. I see many similar currents (ahem) in the NEC in the USA. Not surprising given the need for some element of international harmonization. The UL and private lab testing of equipment provides at least for us a useful additional lab-testing beyond manufacturers unfortunately much of its behind a paywall albeit still accessible to a degree online.
Earthing in general needs clearer guidance in the industry, especially commercial and industrial earthing. BS EN 50310 goes into telecoms earthing in buildings and is crying out for harmonization with protective earthing; standards 7671, 7430 & 50310 mention each other but ultimately tip-toe around each other.
Great podcast as always guys. Question and your opinion with regards to PNB earthing. I always considered PNB earthing as a type of TNS earthing as there is only one connection made between neutral and earth, surely this is no different if the connection was made at the transformer on a true TNS arrangement, only that it is further away from the TX. I can understand that if the connection is made at the customers installation and then there is an earth electrode further upstream, then the bit in between would be PEN, then this arrangement would be PNB TN-C-S but not just one connection. Anyway I may be wrong, what's your thoughts on this???
Bonding - Not for electrical safety, This could be the PELV influence, buildings are fast becoming diversified machines and it is common (but stupid) for installers to ground the ELV negative at various locations. Maybe they are thinking a more harmonised overall earthing & bonding eco system
Love this comment. We need to adapt our way of thinking. Fact. We are engineers working magic with this powerful stuff. It’s being used so much more differently than we are used to. Adapt overcome. Reengineering. This is what we do as sparks. Just a thought. 👊😎👍💙
Your words for Paul were very moving. I wonder if you have ever heard of the term Skyrmions, and specific electromagnetic examples of them they are important part of new developments in particle physics, condensate matter, electricity and magnetism. They were developed and proven by Tony Hilton Royle Skyrme he was born in Lewisham in early 1920s died in mid 1980s. I wonder if there was a family link worth finding out? It does say to me the name Skyrme is a term of excellence in the electrical, engineering and physic fields. I think you should start using the term the “Skyrme test” as a way of thinking deeply about the effectiveness and or correctness of safety of electrical systems. It is a way of militating against compliance thinking rather than fully risk-based thinking in electrical safety and engineering. In simple terms it’s the push against lazy or incomplete thinking in electrical safety and engineering matters I.e pushing against preconceived ideas through the NO, NO, No…. Principle. Wouldn’t that be a legacy for Paul if you keep using it will be taken up by the industry… I will start using it as in my fields and industries..
No product standard is my bug bear. I don’t get why we tolerate the building of ‘illegal’ equipment and the failure to CE mark assemblies. Between 60204 & 61439 we have a massive scope for building certified panels. The issue seems to be it’s all written but there is virtually no enforcement All these new notes are doing is attempting to dilute legal requirements for ‘electricians’ building panels and ignoring the fact they are products in their own right. You cannot put a note on an EIC to get around CE Marking - but the IET seems to be promoting this.
Paul, Dave and John, thank you for keeping Paul’s life work and memory alive in the awesome way you are. He lived to work and loved every minute of it. Our very last conversation was about work. He loved and respected you all so much, you were his Brothers in Arms.
Keeping the industry on its toes is the best way to keep everyone moving forward. Keep it up guys. You’re the best. Yvonne Skyrme xx
Where there’s a brilliant man, generally there’s an amazing woman behind the scenes ❤
Thank you all very much for your time on this, a great video and explanation as always 👍
Well done on producing this chaps. God bless Mr Skyrme.
Thank you Gentlemen for the evident hard work you have put into this video.
Thought provoking.
Thank you also for your kind words.
Bless our good friend and mentor Mr Paul Skyrme
👊😎👍💙
Very informative as always. A beautiful piece and eulogy to Paul Skyrme and tribute to his family. Well deserved and thank you for your service team E5 .
Every Firefighters' death is a tragedy and their sacrifice and dedication is to be remembered. 30 or so electricians die on average each year in the UK. According to the UK firefighters union at least 122 have died since 1978.
Thank you very much again for all the time and effort you put in to make life a little easier for the electrical industry. Wish I was half as clever as you lads, lots to think about and ponder.👏
The fact you’ve watched this says a lot about your attitude to level up 😁Nuff said 😉
Damn!! The regs just twist my brain! I'm not the best electrician in the world but I do want to continually strive to be better.. Trying to navigate and understand everything in that damn book with ADHD is an ongoing challenge. These videos really help. Thank you.
Thank you for the valuable information e5 chaps.
Great webinar thank you. RIP Paul
Appreciate the hard work and effort you guys put into this, it’s a massive help us to try and keep up with the evolution of industry 👏 👏
On the Gas PME question…
Plastic inserts in old installs are not possible due to the ECV being indoors - No plastic permitted indoors on gas.
The Gas supplier however do insert Ceramic links on the cast iron by the ECV
Interesting, worth a rabbit hole that one
Thankyou for doing this. I see many similar currents (ahem) in the NEC in the USA. Not surprising given the need for some element of international harmonization. The UL and private lab testing of equipment provides at least for us a useful additional lab-testing beyond manufacturers unfortunately much of its behind a paywall albeit still accessible to a degree online.
Early retirement inducing stuff! :)
Earthing in general needs clearer guidance in the industry, especially commercial and industrial earthing. BS EN 50310 goes into telecoms earthing in buildings and is crying out for harmonization with protective earthing; standards 7671, 7430 & 50310 mention each other but ultimately tip-toe around each other.
Totally
Great podcast as always guys. Question and your opinion with regards to PNB earthing. I always considered PNB earthing as a type of TNS earthing as there is only one connection made between neutral and earth, surely this is no different if the connection was made at the transformer on a true TNS arrangement, only that it is further away from the TX. I can understand that if the connection is made at the customers installation and then there is an earth electrode further upstream, then the bit in between would be PEN, then this arrangement would be PNB TN-C-S but not just one connection. Anyway I may be wrong, what's your thoughts on this???
Bonding - Not for electrical safety,
This could be the PELV influence, buildings are fast becoming diversified machines and it is common (but stupid) for installers to ground the ELV negative at various locations.
Maybe they are thinking a more harmonised overall earthing & bonding eco system
Love this comment. We need to adapt our way of thinking. Fact.
We are engineers working magic with this powerful stuff. It’s being used so much more differently than we are used to.
Adapt overcome. Reengineering. This is what we do as sparks.
Just a thought.
👊😎👍💙
Your words for Paul were very moving. I wonder if you have ever heard of the term Skyrmions, and specific electromagnetic examples of them they are important part of new developments in particle physics, condensate matter, electricity and magnetism. They were developed and proven by Tony Hilton Royle Skyrme he was born in Lewisham in early 1920s died in mid 1980s. I wonder if there was a family link worth finding out?
It does say to me the name Skyrme is a term of excellence in the electrical, engineering and physic fields.
I think you should start using the term the “Skyrme test” as a way of thinking deeply about the effectiveness and or correctness of safety of electrical systems. It is a way of militating against compliance thinking rather than fully risk-based thinking in electrical safety and engineering. In simple terms it’s the push against lazy or incomplete thinking in electrical safety and engineering matters I.e pushing against preconceived ideas through the NO, NO, No…. Principle. Wouldn’t that be a legacy for Paul if you keep using it will be taken up by the industry…
I will start using it as in my fields and industries..
Do you think 537.4 (c) will have implemented on battery storage systems in domestic?
No product standard is my bug bear.
I don’t get why we tolerate the building of ‘illegal’ equipment and the failure to CE mark assemblies.
Between 60204 & 61439 we have a massive scope for building certified panels.
The issue seems to be it’s all written but there is virtually no enforcement
All these new notes are doing is attempting to dilute legal requirements for ‘electricians’ building panels and ignoring the fact they are products in their own right.
You cannot put a note on an EIC to get around CE Marking - but the IET seems to be promoting this.
"Fire fighters' shaft" fnarr fnarr!