HI Gary! Thanks for being there for all of us! We have a one tank 5 button clack iron filter version just over 1 year old and works great! The plumber did put a bag of greensand it instead of clack that the old one had and I requested for this one; Prob. BC that is was delivered at time of install and he said he changed his mind! The unit cycles every 5 days and but it blows out the green sand fines out to the cold water line to the cloths washing machine and up the 2nd floor bath tub. Would not be surprised if it is at the bottom of our 50gal hot water tank too. We are just treating a small amount of iron. I do have a Airthhreal 40mU, 20gpm spin down filter that I was planning on installing just in front of the washer as a temp.measure but I have a feeling it will need to be rebed sooner than we wanted to. I also wonder if having 6, 90deg. fittings on the exhaust water Side could be a prob. for the system. Could you share you thoughts on this? Thanks Again..
I don't like or ever use Greensand anymore, so that was a mistake. Also, the drain line should not be restricted, so ui ahve concerns about that too. Also, 3 days should be the regen frequency, not 5.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Thanks so much for confirming my concerns with this. Very grateful for your response. Few of us have anyone like you for solid advice. Spent a lot on this project including a pressure tank and new water pump!! Still love the tech. but I better find another company at some point. Thanks again and Kind Regards!
A great summary of the most important home water filtration considerations-especially important if youre new to owning a private well . Would love to be able to make Tap Score water tests free, but alas…
@@GarytheWaterGuy Well that is unfortunate. Pump gets destroyed one way or another. If it clogs it dies, and if i put it after pump, pump will be destroyed by sand bit by bit :(
On a lot of these RO system websites they say they don’t recommend for well water? What do you think of that? I want to get RO but seen those disclaimers.
Can't speak to those guys, but this is the one we recommend for well water waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-75-gpd-reverse-osmosis-system-brushed-nickel-faucet which is the same one I use at my house for my family, we too are on well water.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Your suspicions are correct. I just installed the automatic spin down that @paulspvk6049 mentioned. In theory its amazing, in real life the auto-flush spin down effect doesn't flush, causing major build up on the screen filters. bacteria combine iron (and manganese) and oxygen to form deposits of "rust," bacterial cells, and a slimy material that sticks to the 100 micron filter. Going to a 200 micron filter doesn't help, because the spin down function, even if run daily, does not properly backwash the screen.
Hi Gary. Thanks for many great videos. What are the pros and cons of placing the whole house filter right after the well pump before the pressure tank so that the pressure tank receives filtered water? I'm thinking that the wear and tear on the pump may increase as the filter fills with particles, but this may be solved by using a coarse filter and doing frequent filter draining and changes.
There is neglible upside to placing it right after the pump, before the pressure tank, it just keeps the pressure tank cleaner. The major downside is if that filter ever clogs you'll burn out your pump. Which is why I never install any filters before the pressure tank.
@@GarytheWaterGuy We have water from our municipality, and it might as well be coming from an underground well because it contains sand and other debris and low pressure. After our water meter we have a 40 micron spin down filter, and a limestone reducer, and then the water gets stored in a 1000 liter storage tank. The water pump is connected to that tank, and the pump in turn fills the pressure tank which holds 400 liters of water. This setup reduces the chance of the pump running dry and burning out, and gives us time to clear out the plugged up spin down filter. Also reduces the dirt that would otherwise end up in the tanks over time.
Gary, we have a lot of rust scale in our well water, most likely coming from a rusting casing liner due to age. We can't afford to drill a new well at this time, but are getting ready to build a new home that will utilize the well as it's culinary water source. What would you recommend for the best filter system to remove these large rust scale particles and not have to constantly be buying expensive replacement filters?
Is there a way to filter pesticides, pfas, etc for the whole house? I’m concerned about the shower and sinks water too but adding reverse osmosis everywhere adds up so much!
Great video! Question…I have a 8 year old iron filtration system (4 resin filled tanks). Every night it goes through a backwash cycle. Does the resin lose its efficacy over time? How often should it be changed? Thank you!
It really depends on what you need (you won't need everything shown in this video) based on your water test results and your situation (how much water you use). In most cases about $3500 to $5000 BUT like I said it really depends. Here is a great link where you can get your water tested for free and with some additional info we can give you an actual quote waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
excessively high or low pH, like high TDS for the whole house is rare and would be delt with before the iron filter for the pH and after everything else for the TDS.
Hey boss so I cleaned out my water tank filled up the tank and plugged back the filter but now there’s no pressure my filter is making noise but not working any tips ? Please 🙏
@@GarytheWaterGuy I figured it out but now my softener tank isn’t working the water is very dry and hard and I regenerated these well systems are a pain in the butt
Great video, thank you for the info! I am looking to add filtration to our home on a private well. Problem is, I don't have a place to drain these systems that backwash the media. Do you have any other products you recommend that don't need a backwash? Thanks!
Yup, you need to ahev 5 button valves. Your "iron filter" is likely just a filter with carbon in it, not very effective. Unfortunately there is far too much to modify to make yours an actual iron filter.
@@GarytheWaterGuy we are preparing to move to a house with well water. There is currently no filtration. Can Reverse osmosis be in the basement under our bathroom for our bidet?
No, these are for drinking water, they will not produce enough flow for the bidet. I suggest you get your well water tested and we can make some recommendations, see waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
Im on a well with some iron and maganese .. I have a spin down filter(40 micron), a “three stage cartridge filter” (which includes a 5micron sediment and a carbon filter), a tank iron filter and a water softener . I’ve read and have been told that the “three stage filter” can go between the iron filter and water softener .. would this be ok. I feel if it’s before the iron filter the 5 micron cartridge may get bogged down.. ?
Hey gary, just asking for advice. Our well water goes up to an elevated water tank. through a pressure pump. I'm just asking if where should I place the filtration system. Between the pressure pump and water tower? Or after the water before the pipes split up to whichever outlet. Or perhaps somewhere else? Absolutely no experience with plumbing except changing a few pipes and outlets. Thanks!
@@GarytheWaterGuy thanks for the reply gary. We don't split our water into cold or hot. Everything from the water tank just goes directly to an outlet. I'm assuming what you mean is that i should place it after the water tank? But i can also interpret what you mean as between water tank and pumps too. Thanks for the advice!
You likely don't need all of it, I sure don't. You would need to get your water tested and from there, based on your water chemistry, we can make a recommendation. See waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
Gary is the man! as a new homeowner your videos have been so helpful
Glad you like them! Please share video with friends and family
HI Gary! Thanks for being there for all of us! We have a one tank 5 button clack iron filter version just over 1 year old and works great! The plumber did put a bag of greensand it instead of clack that the old one had and I requested for this one; Prob. BC that is was delivered at time of install and he said he changed his mind! The unit cycles every 5 days and but it blows out the green sand fines out to the cold water line to the cloths washing machine and up the 2nd floor bath tub. Would not be surprised if it is at the bottom of our 50gal hot water tank too. We are just treating a small amount of iron. I do have a Airthhreal 40mU, 20gpm spin down filter that I was planning on installing just in front of the washer as a temp.measure but I have a feeling it will need to be rebed sooner than we wanted to. I also wonder if having 6, 90deg. fittings on the exhaust water Side could be a prob. for the system. Could you share you thoughts on this? Thanks Again..
I don't like or ever use Greensand anymore, so that was a mistake. Also, the drain line should not be restricted, so ui ahve concerns about that too. Also, 3 days should be the regen frequency, not 5.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Thanks so much for confirming my concerns with this. Very grateful for your response. Few of us have anyone like you for solid advice. Spent a lot on this project including a pressure tank and new water pump!! Still love the tech. but I better find another company at some point. Thanks again and Kind Regards!
A great summary of the most important home water filtration considerations-especially important if youre new to owning a private well . Would love to be able to make Tap Score water tests free, but alas…
Sure wouldn't we all but they need to be paid for their work.
Question.....if i have sand in my well water, could i put spin down filter BEFORE pump to protect pump from sand?
Nope, if it clogged you would burn out the pump.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Well that is unfortunate. Pump gets destroyed one way or another. If it clogs it dies, and if i put it after pump, pump will be destroyed by sand bit by bit :(
Hi Gary, we have very bad colloidal clay water. I wonder which treatment is better, the ultra filtration or the chemical injection system?
For colloidal clay I would go with chemical injection.
On a lot of these RO system websites they say they don’t recommend for well water? What do you think of that? I want to get RO but seen those disclaimers.
Can't speak to those guys, but this is the one we recommend for well water waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-75-gpd-reverse-osmosis-system-brushed-nickel-faucet which is the same one I use at my house for my family, we too are on well water.
There *are* automatic spin down filters . Looks the same with a electronic box where the valve is. I think it just runs on a timer.
Correct. But they are often on and then taken off the market, not sure why, but it makes me suspicious about their reliability.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Your suspicions are correct. I just installed the automatic spin down that @paulspvk6049 mentioned. In theory its amazing, in real life the auto-flush spin down effect doesn't flush, causing major build up on the screen filters. bacteria combine iron (and manganese) and oxygen to form deposits of "rust," bacterial cells, and a slimy material that sticks to the 100 micron filter. Going to a 200 micron filter doesn't help, because the spin down function, even if run daily, does not properly backwash the screen.
Thanks for sharing this important information.
Hi Gary. Thanks for many great videos. What are the pros and cons of placing the whole house filter right after the well pump before the pressure tank so that the pressure tank receives filtered water? I'm thinking that the wear and tear on the pump may increase as the filter fills with particles, but this may be solved by using a coarse filter and doing frequent filter draining and changes.
There is neglible upside to placing it right after the pump, before the pressure tank, it just keeps the pressure tank cleaner. The major downside is if that filter ever clogs you'll burn out your pump. Which is why I never install any filters before the pressure tank.
@@GarytheWaterGuy We have water from our municipality, and it might as well be coming from an underground well because it contains sand and other debris and low pressure. After our water meter we have a 40 micron spin down filter, and a limestone reducer, and then the water gets stored in a 1000 liter storage tank. The water pump is connected to that tank, and the pump in turn fills the pressure tank which holds 400 liters of water.
This setup reduces the chance of the pump running dry and burning out, and gives us time to clear out the plugged up spin down filter.
Also reduces the dirt that would otherwise end up in the tanks over time.
This is great ! I will look into sending you a water sample. Does your water test for pesticides and/or radiation?
No, ours is a basic test, see more info here waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
Gary, we have a lot of rust scale in our well water, most likely coming from a rusting casing liner due to age. We can't afford to drill a new well at this time, but are getting ready to build a new home that will utilize the well as it's culinary water source. What would you recommend for the best filter system to remove these large rust scale particles and not have to constantly be buying expensive replacement filters?
@@atalkinghead3637 a settlement filter with just clear glass. He shows it and called it a spin down filter. Works great for large particles.
Yes, that is better than nothing.
I suggest you have the water tested, email us your results to info@waterestore.com and we can make some recommendations for your family
Is there a way to filter pesticides, pfas, etc for the whole house? I’m concerned about the shower and sinks water too but adding reverse osmosis everywhere adds up so much!
A carbon filter like this will help, waterestore.com/products/hum-auto-back-washable-carbon-filter-1-5 but Reverse Osmosis is the best solution.
Great video!
Question…I have a 8 year old iron filtration system (4 resin filled tanks). Every night it goes through a backwash cycle. Does the resin lose its efficacy over time? How often should it be changed? Thank you!
Yes it will, this video shows you how to replace the media ruclips.net/video/Z47JGH1l39o/видео.html
ok Gary when you back flush the dirt where does it go ?
Down the drain, same place that it goes now.
What does a typical system like this cost in the US?
It really depends on what you need (you won't need everything shown in this video) based on your water test results and your situation (how much water you use). In most cases about $3500 to $5000 BUT like I said it really depends. Here is a great link where you can get your water tested for free and with some additional info we can give you an actual quote waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
Hey my well has lots of clay, what filter system/mechanism would you recommend to remove?
An automatic backwashing filter like this waterestore.com/products/hum-auto-backwashable-sediment-filter-1-5-cubic-foot
What about pH?
excessively high or low pH, like high TDS for the whole house is rare and would be delt with before the iron filter for the pH and after everything else for the TDS.
Hey boss so I cleaned out my water tank filled up the tank and plugged back the filter but now there’s no pressure my filter is making noise but not working any tips ? Please 🙏
I would need more info. Is this an RO system, iron filter, water softener?
@@GarytheWaterGuy I figured it out but now my softener tank isn’t working the water is very dry and hard and I regenerated these well systems are a pain in the butt
Great video, thank you for the info! I am looking to add filtration to our home on a private well. Problem is, I don't have a place to drain these systems that backwash the media. Do you have any other products you recommend that don't need a backwash? Thanks!
Yes, all of out 3 stage UV systems do not require backwashing waterestore.com/products/hum-safe-water-10gpm-minirack-mr320e-tp2s-220
Should I consider RO for our bathroom since we use a bidet? I dont want those pharmaceutical and pesticide residuals rinsing our sensitives!
Yup, you need to ahev 5 button valves. Your "iron filter" is likely just a filter with carbon in it, not very effective. Unfortunately there is far too much to modify to make yours an actual iron filter.
@@GarytheWaterGuy we are preparing to move to a house with well water. There is currently no filtration. Can Reverse osmosis be in the basement under our bathroom for our bidet?
No, these are for drinking water, they will not produce enough flow for the bidet. I suggest you get your well water tested and we can make some recommendations, see waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
Im on a well with some iron and maganese .. I have a spin down filter(40 micron), a “three stage cartridge filter” (which includes a 5micron sediment and a carbon filter), a tank iron filter and a water softener . I’ve read and have been told that the “three stage filter” can go between the iron filter and water softener .. would this be ok. I feel if it’s before the iron filter the 5 micron cartridge may get bogged down.. ?
Yes, I would put the 3 stage system after the iron filter and water softener because otherwise you will be changing filter needlessly.
@@GarytheWaterGuy after both the iron and softener or between the two?
Hey gary, just asking for advice. Our well water goes up to an elevated water tank. through a pressure pump. I'm just asking if where should I place the filtration system. Between the pressure pump and water tower? Or after the water before the pipes split up to whichever outlet. Or perhaps somewhere else? Absolutely no experience with plumbing except changing a few pipes and outlets. Thanks!
All water filtration goes just before it splits into hot and cold water.
@@GarytheWaterGuy thanks for the reply gary. We don't split our water into cold or hot. Everything from the water tank just goes directly to an outlet. I'm assuming what you mean is that i should place it after the water tank? But i can also interpret what you mean as between water tank and pumps too.
Thanks for the advice!
Yeah. Most people don't have room for all that equipment. I know I dont.
You likely don't need all of it, I sure don't. You would need to get your water tested and from there, based on your water chemistry, we can make a recommendation. See waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
can you also add different micron filtration spin down filters? Get a 100 and put a 500 micron next etc. Will extend your filter life.
Yes you can but don't forget to flush them.