Who was riding two abreast? Are you blind or didn’t you bother to watch the video? I won’t bother to explain the benefits to drivers of riding two abreast as you are clearly one of those mindless cyclist haters who won’t see reason. The only thing that surprises me is that you didn’t mention road tax or Lycra, so I guess you engaged both your brain cells before commenting, so well done on that 🙂
@@RideWithRoy No one was riding 2 abreast, but that seems to be the no.1 issue that drivers have with cyclists! If THEY dont care about their own safety, then why should anyone else?
@@wellifthemediasaysit your initial comment was obviously too subtle for me 😀 it’s a game of stereotyping - ‘all cyclists ride two abreast and ‘all drivers are cycling haters’. I’ve encountered those groups that refuse to help traffic flow, so know they exist, but we aren’t all like that. Ironically, I’ve asked my groups to single out to avoid upsetting drivers, resulting in a line of cyclists twice as long that they will find it even harder to pass safely. I hope it’s a generational thing that the human race will outgrow.
@@RideWithRoy Perhaps! Im not bothered about cyclists jumping traffic lights, or paying tax! But the 2 abreast thing (so they can chat) is the only thing that winds me up!
A lovely video Roy, such a prety area. I have had 2 close passes caught on camera and I must say, Thames Valley police have been very good. It's taken several months but the outcome was the same as your one, driver awareness training.
Great video and superb ride! The close pass completely vindicates my decision to consider buying a gravel bike. I am just up the road in Derbyshire and am sick to death with the countless times this happens. It's sad because the roads are some of the most scenic, but I'm now willing to get off them more to explore the traffic free routes (or less tarmac) options.
This was tragically emphasised last Sunday when a 62 year old cyclist was killed on the A52 near Bingham. The more we fight back with video evidence and prosecutions the more the message will get through.
Another great ride! Wendy mentioned about missing the hills in France. When I moved from a hilly city in the Midwest (I'm in the USA) where I rode bikes and hated the hills to a flat city on the East Coast, I found the flat routes to be boring. However now that I'm riding an adult tricycle, I very much appreciate the flat ground. 😊 The pony was lovely. I would have stopped too. Maybe he was cautious about approaching because of the bikes. I envy your being able to ride 30, 40+ miles at a time. I just hit a distance goal of my own -- 21 miles. I rationalize my lack of regular long-distance rides on the fact my trike weighs 56 lbs, it's slow and I ride with 73 year old legs! 😅 Enjoy your riding. 😊
Yes where I had a house in France (Lot et Garonne) had hills that were just challenging enough - quite a few that were long but not massively steep - and great views at the top. Mind you that’s not to say there aren’t hills round here 😄
Another great ride and video Roy. I’m also having good results from video footage submitted to Northants Police. I’m having to attend court soon as a witness to a lorry driver that nearly squashed me! The police said he will definitely get done. Stay safe out there. 😊👍
Sorry to hear that, Steve, but pleased that it’s going to court - it must have been hair raisingly close!. Interestingly, many complain about cyclists reporting with video evidence but these are a very small percentage of reports - the majority being from drivers
@@RideWithRoy my view is, yes it’s gets the anti cycling motorists very fired up, but if we slowly educate drivers that they could easily kill us if they don’t leave enough space, the message will hopefully get through?? 🙏
As a cyclist and motorist, the problem is in a lot of cases due to the ignorance of the cyclist, riding three abreast with no consideration for the motorist stuck behind them, the other thing that baffles me is why do most of these club cyclist go out dressed in all black,there should be a law stating cyclist have to wear bright visible clothing.
I know what you mean, although, in my experience, it’s not a lot of cases. As you may have seen, I place a great emphasis on courtesy to drivers and pedestrians - a courtesy that is sometimes not reciprocated. If I’m leading a large group I’ll split it up between leaders to give drivers a chance, and also pull over if creating a hold up. Unfortunately, there are groups that want to dominate the road as if to emphasise their right to be there. I believe that Strava isn’t helping, with some riders so desperate to beat a PB or claim a Q/KOM that consideration for others is not an option. And it really annoys me when they create a segment on a shared path. We have to get the message across that we are not all sport cyclists and there are many bicycle users who are wrongly tarred with the same brush as the few that are ignorant and discourteous,
do you know what the yellow crop (?) is on the right at around 2:15 Roy..... brlliant!!!! also, what are the periodic bleeps? seem to occur when you change direction, so is it something to do with your navigation system? a very mellow ride! thanx.....
The crop is horribly named oilseed rape (OSR) the seeds of which are pressed to extract vegetable oil. There seems to be more of it this year. There has been a shortage of the oil as Ukraine are a major producer, so I wonder if this is why we are seeing more. It has quite a distinctive odour and is the scourge of hay fever sufferers. The beeps are either the radar warning of vehicles approaching from behind or the Wahoo indicating an upcoming turn.
@@RideWithRoy thank you..... I rather had in my mind "rapeseed", but didn't know why. ahh.... that 'fangled technology stuff then.... thought perhaps i was having a 1957 flashback.....
If Wendy likes Horses she should see the lovely herd of wild Konik ponies at wicken fen. It's a lovely flat area to explore especially if you take in Ely cathedral.
I’m retired and live on the island of Lanzarote,the coach and truck drivers here are very careful overtaking, it’s the law anyway. Only close passes are normally tourists in hire cars!
Hi how did you find out what action the Police took? It seems to be lottery as to which Police forces take any notice of close pass submissions or not.
I’ve dealt with Beds, Herts, Leics, Notts and Lincs and all have handled every report well. Notts were poor but I made a complaint to the Professional Standards Dept, after which they got their act together. My advice is if they don’t comply then make a fuss. Leicestershire automatically advise what the penalty was but not the others. I have a good relationship with the Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership and they supply me with a spreadsheet detailing the penalty, but only upon request.
I know it depends on what you're use to, but in Australia that would be called a wide berth the driver gave you there. I'm serious. If you're not on or within a few inches of that solid white line you'll be cleaned up eventually over here. Looks like a nice place to ride, take care everyone...
Yes, I’ve heard that. I was in Adelaide when someone told me that knocking cyclists off was a national sport he seemed proud to partake in. We report but it’s up to the police to decide if it was too close and what the penalty should be.
I have had a few issues with close passes and some very dangerous ones and sent footage to the police a I have been told that they it has been sent to the central ticket office with a view to prosecution I was riding in prime position due to cars parked at the road side and keeping out of the door zone and the police wrote back to me and agreed 100% I sent footage into them on line and have contacted the driver.
Nothing heard so don’t know. It didn’t actually take him off but it was so deliberate that the police were going to accept nothing less than a find and points. I’ve suggested that Paul chases it up as, even though four of us were targeted, only the owner of the video can do it.
That was a nice ride, it seems finding new routes in areas you know is always possible. We're off to Brittany shorty for a week's cycling. I love the area but will miss the comparative flatness of home. Good result on the idiot driver, really no need to drive like that, especially if you do it professionally. Thanks for the video.
It wasn’t stuck at all. Came up behind us at speed and came past close. No need for it as the road was clear. If ever we do appear to be holding anybody up unreasonably we will always pull over to help them, especially truck drivers who are usually very sensible.
Sounds like you doubt my word. Send me your email address and I’ll upload the lead up and send you the link. But you’ll only see that we had recently entered the main road from a side road, and there was no traffic at that point. The police saw the footage 2 minutes either side of the incident and were satisfied that we hadn’t contributed in any way. My radar picked up the truck approaching from 200m behind and the red colour of the alert showed it was approaching fast. Regardless of what we were doing before there is no excuse for a close pass with a clear road ahead. I didn’t show any more of the clip as I thought it unfair to show the registration plate, but I’m happy to do that privately.
Oh, and it’s not for me to explain such poor driving. Had the driver felt he was innocent he could have opted for a court appearance and risk a fine and points. The fact that he didn’t should tell you everything you need to know,
@@RideWithRoy Than just post what happen before. We never see what happened before in all these incidents cought on video. I'm not the one who will side on one side with one one version of what happened. I'd be curious to see 5 or 10 minutes before the truck passed by.
We had an alarming close pass on Sunday, Paul. I caught up with the middle aged female driver at the traffic lights. I politely told her she was far too close when she passed us and would be hearing from the police. Her reaction was to shrug as if she didn’t know what she had done wrong! I’ll just keep catching them one at a time 🙂
@@RideWithRoy yep know what you mean, happens to me most days they usually have the luck of the devil and flow through green lights so you can't catch them, but in this mad world you don't know who you are confronting, plus I'm getting to old now ide sooner put my energy into training than an argument
@paulhiggins9492 quite wise. I carry a bullet cam so just report with video evidence and they don’t usually know until the notice of prosecution drops through the door.
Sitting back enjoying the vlog with wine, cheese and crackers, well done on the close pass guy, hopefully he learned a lesson and lovely countryside too.
Looking at all the great activity at the cafe - plenty of cars and some motorbikes, as well as cyclists - makes you fearful for their future (not THAT far away), in a society which will be imposed on us by the 15 minute city/net zero lunatics, determined in their self righteousness to degrade the quality of life for the rest of us. These scenes will be a thing of the past.
@@rynabuns Nothing, provided you otherwise are still allowed to live your life as you wish. If you can walk or cycle for shopping and the like, and are happy to do so, then good for you - it may not suit everybody. What are the elderly or infirm supposed to do if they can't walk or ride a bike and are not permitted to use their car, which is what is intended? What about those who PREFER to use their car for things, which is their right, but will have limited use imposed on them? The idea will be to eventually prevent motorists from going to cafes like the one shown. Do your research - the fifteen minute cities will be an outrageous, evil infringement on people's liberties.
@@vincekerrigan8300 You are being too pessimistic. You're correct that driving in congested urban areas will be sicouraged even further. It's already been discouraged for decades. e.g. Parking restrictions and charges, park and ride, pedestrianisation, 20 mph speed limits, low traffic neighbourhoods and congestion charging. 15 minute cities are just another measure, but actually a more positive one, by aiming to provide the goods and service most people require much closer to their homes, so they don't need to travel significant distances. I don't believe we'll be prevented from travelling the length and breadth of the country as and when we wish though. The only limiter will be cost. I also believe cycling will always be a cheap means of travelling over modest distances (30-100 miles, depending on fitness). The dispensations for the disabled will also continue, so they can access places with powered private transport.
Just dont ride 2 abreast, and you wont piss anyone off!
Who was riding two abreast? Are you blind or didn’t you bother to watch the video? I won’t bother to explain the benefits to drivers of riding two abreast as you are clearly one of those mindless cyclist haters who won’t see reason. The only thing that surprises me is that you didn’t mention road tax or Lycra, so I guess you engaged both your brain cells before commenting, so well done on that 🙂
Highway code recommends people cycle 2 abreast, but how many ever take any notice?
@@RideWithRoy No one was riding 2 abreast, but that seems to be the no.1 issue that drivers have with cyclists! If THEY dont care about their own safety, then why should anyone else?
@@wellifthemediasaysit your initial comment was obviously too subtle for me 😀 it’s a game of stereotyping - ‘all cyclists ride two abreast and ‘all drivers are cycling haters’. I’ve encountered those groups that refuse to help traffic flow, so know they exist, but we aren’t all like that. Ironically, I’ve asked my groups to single out to avoid upsetting drivers, resulting in a line of cyclists twice as long that they will find it even harder to pass safely. I hope it’s a generational thing that the human race will outgrow.
@@RideWithRoy Perhaps! Im not bothered about cyclists jumping traffic lights, or paying tax! But the 2 abreast thing (so they can chat) is the only thing that winds me up!
A lovely video Roy, such a prety area. I have had 2 close passes caught on camera and I must say, Thames Valley police have been very good. It's taken several months but the outcome was the same as your one, driver awareness training.
The EGOmaniac (aka Idai Makaya) is local to me and often seen out and about, great to see that you shared the experience of encountering him.
I especially enjoyed this one! The bashful pony added to the picturesque theme.
Great video and superb ride! The close pass completely vindicates my decision to consider buying a gravel bike. I am just up the road in Derbyshire and am sick to death with the countless times this happens. It's sad because the roads are some of the most scenic, but I'm now willing to get off them more to explore the traffic free routes (or less tarmac) options.
This was tragically emphasised last Sunday when a 62 year old cyclist was killed on the A52 near Bingham. The more we fight back with video evidence and prosecutions the more the message will get through.
Another great ride!
Wendy mentioned about missing the hills in France. When I moved from a hilly city in the Midwest (I'm in the USA) where I rode bikes and hated the hills to a flat city on the East Coast, I found the flat routes to be boring. However now that I'm riding an adult tricycle, I very much appreciate the flat ground. 😊
The pony was lovely. I would have stopped too. Maybe he was cautious about approaching because of the bikes.
I envy your being able to ride 30, 40+ miles at a time. I just hit a distance goal of my own -- 21 miles. I rationalize my lack of regular long-distance rides on the fact my trike weighs 56 lbs, it's slow and I ride with 73 year old legs! 😅
Enjoy your riding. 😊
Whatever the distance, it’s the enjoyment that matters most to us. I think the pony was on its way over to Wendy and then it saw me 🥲
Yes where I had a house in France (Lot et Garonne) had hills that were just challenging enough - quite a few that were long but not massively steep - and great views at the top. Mind you that’s not to say there aren’t hills round here 😄
Another great ride and video Roy. I’m also having good results from video footage submitted to Northants Police. I’m having to attend court soon as a witness to a lorry driver that nearly squashed me! The police said he will definitely get done. Stay safe out there. 😊👍
Sorry to hear that, Steve, but pleased that it’s going to court - it must have been hair raisingly close!. Interestingly, many complain about cyclists reporting with video evidence but these are a very small percentage of reports - the majority being from drivers
@@RideWithRoy my view is, yes it’s gets the anti cycling motorists very fired up, but if we slowly educate drivers that they could easily kill us if they don’t leave enough space, the message will hopefully get through?? 🙏
As a cyclist and motorist, the problem is in a lot of cases due to the ignorance of the cyclist, riding three abreast with no consideration for the motorist stuck behind them, the other thing that baffles me is why do most of these club cyclist go out dressed in all black,there should be a law stating cyclist have to wear bright visible clothing.
I know what you mean, although, in my experience, it’s not a lot of cases. As you may have seen, I place a great emphasis on courtesy to drivers and pedestrians - a courtesy that is sometimes not reciprocated. If I’m leading a large group I’ll split it up between leaders to give drivers a chance, and also pull over if creating a hold up. Unfortunately, there are groups that want to dominate the road as if to emphasise their right to be there. I believe that Strava isn’t helping, with some riders so desperate to beat a PB or claim a Q/KOM that consideration for others is not an option. And it really annoys me when they create a segment on a shared path. We have to get the message across that we are not all sport cyclists and there are many bicycle users who are wrongly tarred with the same brush as the few that are ignorant and discourteous,
do you know what the yellow crop (?) is on the right at around 2:15 Roy..... brlliant!!!! also, what are the periodic bleeps? seem to occur when you change direction, so is it something to do with your navigation system? a very mellow ride! thanx.....
The crop is horribly named oilseed rape (OSR) the seeds of which are pressed to extract vegetable oil. There seems to be more of it this year. There has been a shortage of the oil as Ukraine are a major producer, so I wonder if this is why we are seeing more. It has quite a distinctive odour and is the scourge of hay fever sufferers. The beeps are either the radar warning of vehicles approaching from behind or the Wahoo indicating an upcoming turn.
@@RideWithRoy thank you..... I rather had in my mind "rapeseed", but didn't know why.
ahh.... that 'fangled technology stuff then.... thought perhaps i was having a 1957 flashback.....
If Wendy likes Horses she should see the lovely herd of wild Konik ponies at wicken fen. It's a lovely flat area to explore especially if you take in Ely cathedral.
It’s probably why you hear so much sniffing when we are cycling!
I’m retired and live on the island of Lanzarote,the coach and truck drivers here are very careful overtaking, it’s the law anyway. Only close passes are normally tourists in hire cars!
Nice video Roy, keep it coming!
Another one coming on Saturday 😀
Hi how did you find out what action the Police took? It seems to be lottery as to which Police forces take any notice of close pass submissions or not.
I’ve dealt with Beds, Herts, Leics, Notts and Lincs and all have handled every report well. Notts were poor but I made a complaint to the Professional Standards Dept, after which they got their act together. My advice is if they don’t comply then make a fuss. Leicestershire automatically advise what the penalty was but not the others. I have a good relationship with the Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership and they supply me with a spreadsheet detailing the penalty, but only upon request.
I know it depends on what you're use to, but in Australia that would be called a wide berth the driver gave you there. I'm serious.
If you're not on or within a few inches of that solid white line you'll be cleaned up eventually over here.
Looks like a nice place to ride, take care everyone...
Yes, I’ve heard that. I was in Adelaide when someone told me that knocking cyclists off was a national sport he seemed proud to partake in. We report but it’s up to the police to decide if it was too close and what the penalty should be.
I have had a few issues with close passes and some very dangerous ones and sent footage to the police a I have been told that they it has been sent to the central ticket office with a view to prosecution I was riding in prime position due to cars parked at the road side and keeping out of the door zone and the police wrote back to me and agreed 100% I sent footage into them on line and have contacted the driver.
What happened with the incident when a vehicle took Paul Green off his bike a few months back? Any action by the Police?
Nothing heard so don’t know. It didn’t actually take him off but it was so deliberate that the police were going to accept nothing less than a find and points. I’ve suggested that Paul chases it up as, even though four of us were targeted, only the owner of the video can do it.
That was a nice ride, it seems finding new routes in areas you know is always possible. We're off to Brittany shorty for a week's cycling. I love the area but will miss the comparative flatness of home.
Good result on the idiot driver, really no need to drive like that, especially if you do it professionally.
Thanks for the video.
Enjoy Brittany, Colin. I wish you beau temps
How long was that truck stucked behind you? Wanna share what happened?
It wasn’t stuck at all. Came up behind us at speed and came past close. No need for it as the road was clear. If ever we do appear to be holding anybody up unreasonably we will always pull over to help them, especially truck drivers who are usually very sensible.
@@RideWithRoy Than how do you explain such behavior from the driver if the road was clear? I'd like to see the 5 minutes prior these images.
Sounds like you doubt my word. Send me your email address and I’ll upload the lead up and send you the link. But you’ll only see that we had recently entered the main road from a side road, and there was no traffic at that point. The police saw the footage 2 minutes either side of the incident and were satisfied that we hadn’t contributed in any way. My radar picked up the truck approaching from 200m behind and the red colour of the alert showed it was approaching fast. Regardless of what we were doing before there is no excuse for a close pass with a clear road ahead. I didn’t show any more of the clip as I thought it unfair to show the registration plate, but I’m happy to do that privately.
Oh, and it’s not for me to explain such poor driving. Had the driver felt he was innocent he could have opted for a court appearance and risk a fine and points. The fact that he didn’t should tell you everything you need to know,
@@RideWithRoy Than just post what happen before. We never see what happened before in all these incidents cought on video. I'm not the one who will side on one side with one one version of what happened. I'd be curious to see 5 or 10 minutes before the truck passed by.
Where do you find a girl called “Wendy”
Easy, I know where she lives 🙂
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Christ the futures bright
Yes it is. If we can stop this sort of driving then we might have a future 🙂
@@RideWithRoy I've been riding 50yrs 10yrs old to pro, seen all these idiots I'ts hard to make an idiot think before the damage is done
We had an alarming close pass on Sunday, Paul. I caught up with the middle aged female driver at the traffic lights. I politely told her she was far too close when she passed us and would be hearing from the police. Her reaction was to shrug as if she didn’t know what she had done wrong! I’ll just keep catching them one at a time 🙂
@@RideWithRoy yep know what you mean, happens to me most days they usually have the luck of the devil and flow through green lights so you can't catch them, but in this mad world you don't know who you are confronting, plus I'm getting to old now ide sooner put my energy into training than an argument
@paulhiggins9492 quite wise. I carry a bullet cam so just report with video evidence and they don’t usually know until the notice of prosecution drops through the door.
Sitting back enjoying the vlog with wine, cheese and crackers, well done on the close pass guy, hopefully he learned a lesson and lovely countryside too.
Sounds perfect - the cheese wine and crackers I mean 😀
Looking at all the great activity at the cafe - plenty of cars and some motorbikes, as well as cyclists - makes you fearful for their future (not THAT far away), in a society which will be imposed on us by the 15 minute city/net zero lunatics, determined in their self righteousness to degrade the quality of life for the rest of us. These scenes will be a thing of the past.
What's wrong with living in a walkable city?
@@rynabuns Nothing, provided you otherwise are still allowed to live your life as you wish. If you can walk or cycle for shopping and the like, and are happy to do so, then good for you - it may not suit everybody. What are the elderly or infirm supposed to do if they can't walk or ride a bike and are not permitted to use their car, which is what is intended? What about those who PREFER to use their car for things, which is their right, but will have limited use imposed on them? The idea will be to eventually prevent motorists from going to cafes like the one shown. Do your research - the fifteen minute cities will be an outrageous, evil infringement on people's liberties.
Don’t you just love conspiracy theories!
@@Trevor.Adams640 This is not a 'conspiracy theory', it is what is going to happen unless a stop is put to it.
@@vincekerrigan8300 You are being too pessimistic. You're correct that driving in congested urban areas will be sicouraged even further. It's already been discouraged for decades. e.g. Parking restrictions and charges, park and ride, pedestrianisation, 20 mph speed limits, low traffic neighbourhoods and congestion charging. 15 minute cities are just another measure, but actually a more positive one, by aiming to provide the goods and service most people require much closer to their homes, so they don't need to travel significant distances. I don't believe we'll be prevented from travelling the length and breadth of the country as and when we wish though. The only limiter will be cost. I also believe cycling will always be a cheap means of travelling over modest distances (30-100 miles, depending on fitness). The dispensations for the disabled will also continue, so they can access places with powered private transport.