A beautiful depiction of religion and spirituality. The Rishi’s have given us a ‘manual’ based on the forces of nature. By adhering to them and bringing it into our daily practice becomes our religion . This consistent practices reveals our true nature.
Excellent. According to me for true understanding of Vedanta, spiritual practices, the prerequisite is practicing sadhan chatushtiya. For effortless practice, we need to put effort on balancing our food intake. The food I mean here whatever we consume through 5 senses are all food. A human has two sets of brain to get feedback on what is going excess in his food consumption. But we ignore it. Meditation etc helps us to improve our Vivek and help us to strengthen our intake so that we become an ideal person to realise the importance of balance, non duality , consciousness etc.
Thank You both of you. Definitely this discussion will help many spritual seeker like me and many individuals. Though basically we are one the same consciousness , and it is projecting this individual identity (ego) and playing the game called samsara . Very nice. Keep this going 🙏
Speak on Karma Sidhanth so people can understand how their nature manifest with science behind like "Karya-Karana Sambandha" Also on "Aham Kaar" both as in "Ahamkar" and as in "Aham Brhmaasmi"
I feel, any religion is a set of rituals with or without spirituality or beliefs. If we decide to do away with the rituals, it is no longer a religion, even if we believe strongly in the principles of the religion. Conversely, the religion flourishes as long as we practice the rituals even with no belief in its principles.
In its essence religion was supposed to be set of conduct to help us reach to our spiritual nature. And yes, with the essence it can merely become one more action.
Thank you for your note :) These topics are interesting and extremely technical. We intend to cover similar topics in the future and hopefully we will get some connect.
You both have succinctly and beautifully covered a topic which is difficult to summarise in 20 min 👏Very nice analogy of theoretical physics and applied physics 👌
With reference to your statement at 05:05, regarding "vibration", we have to recognize that it is only a provisional teaching concession made to satisfy the "intellect" that is wedded to causality and is looking for the "cause" of the "world". But in the ultimate understanding, this concession is rescinded and "YOU" are shown to be "Prapanchopashama" and there was never ever any "vibration".
Yes, at the absolute / Paramarthika level Om is Prapanchopashama ( as you mentioned) - "Om iti Brahma, Om iti Sarvam". From the perspective of our current reality (Vyavaharika Satyam), which is relative, I mentioned about the evolution of Universe. And while the Vyavaharika Satyam is Mithya, it is not unreal :) And yes, thank you for you notes, they are nice!
@@tvame1183 🙏. Yes, I agree. I prefer to use the word "relatively real" rather than "illusion", as the latter word might be construed as non-existent by those who are unfamiliar with the "language" of Vedanta. Thanks again🙏🙏
Ji My self Pr Veerappan from Madurai. Ur videos r very informative. Sincere thanks for ur efforts. Will u explain the difference between awareness and consciousness?
My question: I see many people around me practising various religious methods . Very consistent in their practise but it doesn’t reflect in their day to day life. I understand that one attains or cultivates certain qualities while being religious. But unfortunately, I see such people , showing no compassion or empathy towards others. Why is it so? A quick thought rushes to me saying that how come he is religious and I don’t see any changes while being with people.
Question Is there any dark side of spirituality, sometimes we come across such videos According to spirituality, what about cruel persons such as Hitler, Napolean,changhis khan etc , if everyone is god.
Power in the form of a gun may be in the hands of a criminal or police. Police uses the power to protect while criminal harms the other. Everyone is indeed the Atma but if one is disconnected with this "self", one acts like a criminal while one connected will act like a police
Spirituality leads to seeing our own divine essence and divinity & interconnectedness ever-where. So there cannot be cruelty in spirituality. And why cruelty exists inspite of all pervasive, all mighty God we are capturing in the future videos.
Awesome. Here is my current evolution: I do lot of contemplation. Advaitha is what I have come to in my current status. I do meditation (though not very regular these days). I go for walks listening to podcasts in philosophy and psychology. I love reading books on philosophy, psychology, evolution (loved Sapiens by Harari) I have started going to bhajans and I love singing (sai baba temple on Thursdays) - gives me peace and happiness. I believe in not believing something permanently. I want to grow in my understanding as time goes (I am turning 50 this year). My ultimate search is - to be content with what I am and accept myself and everything as they are.
My point is - when we use foriegn terms like God and ask questions, we often lose ourselves. Ancient Indians used the word परमात्मा, आत्मा, ईश्वर, हिरण्यगर्भ, महादेव, देवी, etc with each word having a distinct meaning with a specific purpose. In धर्म, ईश्वर became everything and is the real आत्मा present within all जीवs. And if you look at श्रृष्टि this way, then ईश्वर deliberately took the form of a जीव for अनुभव and as long as one is connected to the ईश्वर स्थिति, there is just act of observing the world as a साक्षी चैतन्य (and invention and discovery may not apply). But if one is connected to जीव स्थिति, then life becomes a journey to discover oneself - this becomes a case of rediscovery (and not discovery and certainly not an invention (since invention only applies to an idea that is not there before the invention) of one's innate ब्रह्म that is always there. Words like God, prayer, worship, etc tend to imply ideas which are not useful words to understand धर्म. My two bits of my ignorance 😂😂 🙏🙏🙏
I understand what u r trying to say 🙏....mine was a simple question....when human beings evolved from apes....I mean when man was evolving when and how did this idea of Ishwar dwan upon him? When did he realise the need of looking up to divinity or some higher power?
What do you mean by saying - what works for you. If abiding in your essential self is to experience spirituality then there is no need for any kind of techniques or tools you have mentioned. All it needs is to just become aware of the presence of being. Just felt like expressing myself...
Techniques are required till our essential understanding of our identity is the "not-self". Once we get rid of the non-self, then we abide in our essential self. And once we abide in that self, there is no tools required any further
@@sadhakadhristi3754 I would submit to you that in the ultimate "culmination" of "knowledge", we "see" that, there never was/is/will be "non-self" and all there was/is/will be "SELF" alone; in other words, "non-self" is "SELF" alone. In that final intuitive understanding, "saadhaka", "means of sadhana" and "saadhana" with their apparent "divisions", will all be SELF ALONE. In that plane of ABSOLUTE REALITY OF "I", there is neither religion nor Vedas, but "TOTAL SILENCE" (without even the bunch of thoughts expressed in the above words of mine).
@@sadhakadhristi3754 I am not sure what you are referring to by the term "techniques". Knowledge (Vidya) alone is the ultimate "means" to help us to cognize our ABSOLUTE NATURE, that transcends both Vidya and Avidya.
@ravindramurthy3486 नित्य/ नैमित्तिक कर्म is the initial technique which leads to चित्त शुद्धि, उपासना is the technique which gives ज्ञान योग्यता and lastly, ज्ञान योग is the technique will eventually culminates in ज्ञान. Trust the above clarifies
Pratiquer à travers le silence de la Présence et laisser passer les objections du mental La respiration consciente dépose l’esprit là où il y un appel du corps ( une raideur par exemple :)en effet dans l’approche Bouddhiste il faut les deux car le souffle (LUNG)sert de monture al’esprit (lumiere conscience)
What is the origin of Om There is no Om in Veda’s. First citation in gaudapada mandukya karika. There is no short vowel o in Sanskrit….long vowel inserted without short vowel?
@@MM-dh3wr But the point is Mandukya Upanishad existed prior to Gaudapada wrote the Karika. Therefore, the word "Aum" is prior the Mandukya Karika. Of course, ultimately, it does not make any difference as we cognize that TIMELESS ESSENCE.
@ mandukya karika is the fist citation for mandukya Upanishad with alum inserted. Like rig Veda Om inserted in gayatri mantra later. Original Tat savittur vareneyam….missing first line. Therefore aum is not the starting sound for vedas
Religion is a pious way to God but God is unknown & unknowable, religion also means faith which is accepting blindly..... Yet essentially religion is a way of Life providing sufficient cushioning to face the inevitable uncertainties of living. There's an imperative need for proper understanding of religion weeding out the many accumulation of huge unnecessary subjective factors........
Pour moi ma confiance et ma dévotion sont totales à l’égard du lumineux et insurpassable Ramana MAHARSHI Il dit pourquoi faire toutes ces pratiques ‘(j’ai pratiqué 40 ans surtout le Hatha yoga )car au bout vous arriverez à la question « qui suis-je;WHO AM’I » voie directe et essentielle et simple car elle noue ramène à cette Conscience que nous sommes EEt se révèle à Tavares notre organisme L’ÉVEIL c’est mourir (l’ego) avant de mourir (Kabir)what is i Hope becose i have 80years 🌸🙏🌸
A beautiful depiction of religion and spirituality. The Rishi’s have given us a ‘manual’ based on the forces of nature. By adhering to them and bringing it into our daily practice becomes our religion . This consistent practices reveals our true nature.
Absolutely!
Excellent. According to me for true understanding of Vedanta, spiritual practices, the prerequisite is practicing sadhan chatushtiya. For effortless practice, we need to put effort on balancing our food intake. The food I mean here whatever we consume through 5 senses are all food. A human has two sets of brain to get feedback on what is going excess in his food consumption. But we ignore it. Meditation etc helps us to improve our Vivek and help us to strengthen our intake so that we become an ideal person to realise the importance of balance, non duality , consciousness etc.
Thank you for sharing:)
Thank You both of you.
Definitely this discussion will help many spritual seeker like me and many individuals. Though basically we are one the same consciousness , and it is projecting this individual identity (ego) and playing the game called samsara .
Very nice.
Keep this going 🙏
Well said!
Dear sir superb explanation and presentation, all my spiritual doubts are getting cleared by your sessions and making me perfect.
So nice to hear this
Thank you for this series.
How do I get started on understanding upnishadas?
Kindly mail us on reachus@tvame.me
Thanks a lot for the beautiful explanation. 🙏
My pleasure!
"When I look inside, I move closer to my divine atma. When I look outside, I want to enquire what I can do for you? ".
So Nice :)
Speak on Karma Sidhanth so people can understand how their nature manifest with science behind like "Karya-Karana Sambandha" Also on "Aham Kaar" both as in "Ahamkar" and as in "Aham Brhmaasmi"
Yes, each one of them needs to be covered in great detail.
I feel, any religion is a set of rituals with or without spirituality or beliefs. If we decide to do away with the rituals, it is no longer a religion, even if we believe strongly in the principles of the religion. Conversely, the religion flourishes as long as we practice the rituals even with no belief in its principles.
In its essence religion was supposed to be set of conduct to help us reach to our spiritual nature. And yes, with the essence it can merely become one more action.
I am enjoying your episodes vey much
I want two topics for you to discuss
Quantum entanglement
Schizophrenia and spiritualism
Thank you for your note :) These topics are interesting and extremely technical. We intend to cover similar topics in the future and hopefully we will get some connect.
You both have succinctly and beautifully covered a topic which is difficult to summarise in 20 min 👏Very nice analogy of theoretical physics and applied physics 👌
Glad you liked it, thank you!
Also my second question is....
when and how did the concept of God originate?
With reference to your statement at 05:05, regarding "vibration", we have to recognize that it is only a provisional teaching concession made to satisfy the "intellect" that is wedded to causality and is looking for the "cause" of the "world". But in the ultimate understanding, this concession is rescinded and "YOU" are shown to be "Prapanchopashama" and there was never ever any "vibration".
Yes, at the absolute / Paramarthika level Om is Prapanchopashama ( as you mentioned) - "Om iti Brahma, Om iti Sarvam". From the perspective of our current reality (Vyavaharika Satyam), which is relative, I mentioned about the evolution of Universe. And while the Vyavaharika Satyam is Mithya, it is not unreal :) And yes, thank you for you notes, they are nice!
@@tvame1183 🙏. Yes, I agree. I prefer to use the word "relatively real" rather than "illusion", as the latter word might be construed as non-existent by those who are unfamiliar with the "language" of Vedanta. Thanks again🙏🙏
As you said i am doing jaba and listing to Bhagavat geeta , tattva bodha, atma bodha, bhajagovindam, dhanyastagam and upanishads by guru mugam.
thank you for sharing!
Ji
My self Pr Veerappan from Madurai. Ur videos r very informative. Sincere thanks for ur efforts.
Will u explain the difference between awareness and consciousness?
Thank you! Are you checking on these terms from Vedantic or Psychology perspective?
Super
Please check subtitles
It is giving synch for sink, bud for buddhi, and few more
thank you, noted
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If everything is ordained by God as by maharishi Ramana then what is the role of free will
My question: I see many people around me practising various religious methods . Very consistent in their practise but it doesn’t reflect in their day to day life. I understand that one attains or cultivates certain qualities while being religious. But unfortunately, I see such people , showing no compassion or empathy towards others. Why is it so? A quick thought rushes to me saying that how come he is religious and I don’t see any changes while being with people.
Practice is a great enabler however with understanding it creates transformation.
Question
Is there any dark side of spirituality, sometimes we come across such videos
According to spirituality, what about cruel persons such as Hitler, Napolean,changhis khan etc , if everyone is god.
Power in the form of a gun may be in the hands of a criminal or police. Police uses the power to protect while criminal harms the other. Everyone is indeed the Atma but if one is disconnected with this "self", one acts like a criminal while one connected will act like a police
Spirituality leads to seeing our own divine essence and divinity & interconnectedness ever-where. So there cannot be cruelty in spirituality. And why cruelty exists inspite of all pervasive, all mighty God we are capturing in the future videos.
Awesome.
Here is my current evolution:
I do lot of contemplation. Advaitha is what I have come to in my current status.
I do meditation (though not very regular these days).
I go for walks listening to podcasts in philosophy and psychology. I love reading books on philosophy, psychology, evolution (loved Sapiens by Harari)
I have started going to bhajans and I love singing (sai baba temple on Thursdays) - gives me peace and happiness.
I believe in not believing something permanently. I want to grow in my understanding as time goes (I am turning 50 this year).
My ultimate search is - to be content with what I am and accept myself and everything as they are.
Thank you so much for sharing!
I am so glad that I came across ur channel!
I am a curious soul too....
Was God invented or discovered?
For this, one has to probably clarify what does one mean by the word "God"? 😀
By God I mean super power, divine being, supreme being....
My point is - when we use foriegn terms like God and ask questions, we often lose ourselves. Ancient Indians used the word परमात्मा, आत्मा, ईश्वर, हिरण्यगर्भ, महादेव, देवी, etc with each word having a distinct meaning with a specific purpose. In धर्म, ईश्वर became everything and is the real आत्मा present within all जीवs. And if you look at श्रृष्टि this way, then ईश्वर deliberately took the form of a जीव for अनुभव and as long as one is connected to the ईश्वर स्थिति, there is just act of observing the world as a साक्षी चैतन्य (and invention and discovery may not apply). But if one is connected to जीव स्थिति, then life becomes a journey to discover oneself - this becomes a case of rediscovery (and not discovery and certainly not an invention (since invention only applies to an idea that is not there before the invention) of one's innate ब्रह्म that is always there. Words like God, prayer, worship, etc tend to imply ideas which are not useful words to understand धर्म. My two bits of my ignorance 😂😂 🙏🙏🙏
I understand what u r trying to say 🙏....mine was a simple question....when human beings evolved from apes....I mean when man was evolving when and how did this idea of Ishwar dwan upon him? When did he realise the need of looking up to divinity or some higher power?
What point in time did he start and how did this thought arise in his mind?
What do you mean by saying - what works for you. If abiding in your essential self is to experience spirituality then there is no need for any kind of techniques or tools you have mentioned. All it needs is to just become aware of the presence of being. Just felt like expressing myself...
Techniques are required till our essential understanding of our identity is the "not-self". Once we get rid of the non-self, then we abide in our essential self. And once we abide in that self, there is no tools required any further
@@sadhakadhristi3754 I would submit to you that in the ultimate "culmination" of "knowledge", we "see" that, there never was/is/will be "non-self" and all there was/is/will be "SELF" alone; in other words, "non-self" is "SELF" alone. In that final intuitive understanding, "saadhaka", "means of sadhana" and "saadhana" with their apparent "divisions", will all be SELF ALONE. In that plane of ABSOLUTE REALITY OF "I", there is neither religion nor Vedas, but "TOTAL SILENCE" (without even the bunch of thoughts expressed in the above words of mine).
@@ravindramurthy3486 True. What you have stated is valid as the "ultimate" culmination. Techniques are needed till we reach this ultimate state.
@@sadhakadhristi3754 I am not sure what you are referring to by the term "techniques". Knowledge (Vidya) alone is the ultimate "means" to help us to cognize our ABSOLUTE NATURE, that transcends both Vidya and Avidya.
@ravindramurthy3486 नित्य/ नैमित्तिक कर्म is the initial technique which leads to चित्त शुद्धि, उपासना is the technique which gives ज्ञान योग्यता and lastly, ज्ञान योग is the technique will eventually culminates in ज्ञान.
Trust the above clarifies
If everything is ordained by God as per Maharishi Ramana then what role free will plays
The most complicated question ever :))
Pratiquer à travers le silence de la Présence et laisser passer les objections du mental
La respiration consciente dépose l’esprit là où il y un appel du corps ( une raideur par exemple :)en effet dans l’approche Bouddhiste il faut les deux car le souffle (LUNG)sert de monture al’esprit (lumiere conscience)
What is the origin of Om
There is no Om in Veda’s. First citation in gaudapada mandukya karika.
There is no short vowel o in Sanskrit….long vowel inserted without short vowel?
Are you sure about your statement that there is no Aum in Veda? Please look up Mantra 1 of Mandukya Upanishad.
@ mandukya karika is the earliest citation of mandukya Upanishad
@@MM-dh3wr But the point is Mandukya Upanishad existed prior to Gaudapada wrote the Karika. Therefore, the word "Aum" is prior the Mandukya Karika. Of course, ultimately, it does not make any difference as we cognize that TIMELESS ESSENCE.
@ mandukya karika is the fist citation for mandukya Upanishad with alum inserted.
Like rig Veda Om inserted in gayatri mantra later.
Original
Tat savittur vareneyam….missing first line.
Therefore aum is not the starting sound for vedas
@@MM-dh3wr As long as "we both" know that "WE" are none other than " Aum" in Silence, we are OK. 🙏
Religion is a pious way to God but God is unknown & unknowable, religion also means faith which is accepting blindly.....
Yet essentially religion is a way of Life providing sufficient cushioning to face the inevitable uncertainties of living.
There's an imperative need for proper understanding of religion weeding out the many accumulation of huge unnecessary subjective factors........
Yes, Agree : Need for proper understanding of religion weeding out the many accumulation of huge unnecessary subjective factors
J’apprécie les questions simples mais perte votre interlocutrice
Pour moi ma confiance et ma dévotion sont totales à l’égard du lumineux et insurpassable Ramana MAHARSHI
Il dit pourquoi faire toutes ces pratiques ‘(j’ai pratiqué 40 ans surtout le Hatha yoga )car au bout vous arriverez à la question « qui suis-je;WHO AM’I »
voie directe et essentielle et simple car elle noue ramène à cette Conscience que nous sommes EEt se révèle à Tavares notre organisme
L’ÉVEIL c’est mourir (l’ego) avant de mourir (Kabir)what is i Hope becose i have 80years 🌸🙏🌸
Beautiful, thank you for sharing :)