One underappreciated advantage disc brakes brought is that it makes it much easier to experiment with different wheel sizes. How could you have one set of 700c wheels and one set of 650b:s with cantilever brakes? Oh, I guess you could, but switching wheels like that would most likely involve quite a lot of readjustment, and maybe even swapping out parts. With disc brakes, just pop one wheel out and install the other, it can easily be done in less than a minute.
You'd be surprised how great of a ride that curved steele fork is. My road bike has an aluminum frame with a og curved steele fork and i never changed it to carbon because how great it feels on road. Takes the bumps amazingly. At times i have to look down thinking my front tire is low but it never is haha. Heavier yes. Ride quality great.
The derailleur itself is an imperfect system and it hasnt been replaced widely in one hundred years. You have something that you need to keep pedaling exposed to rocks, sticks and just getting smashed when the bike falls to the right. Once internal gears are lighter we will all be riding without mechs period.
4 things for me 1. More than one size wheel choice. 26, 27.5, or 29er size now. 2. Hydraulic disc brakes. 3. Hollow Tech 2 cranks from Shimano in 2002 4. Dropper seat post option.
Beautiful bike! Please don't modernize it, keep it as it is but first get the original LX rear derailleur :) i'd love to see some more clips on this bike. Love these 90s mtbs i've also got a few GTs.
I remember in early 90s Scott where the best bikes here in my country sLOVEnia would love to have one of those in that times. Stay safe stay at home greetings from sLOVEnia east europe
one thing that hasnt changed is seats. a good seat is still a good seat. another thing that hasnt changed in XC is the quest for weight savings. eternal!
I'm surprised it has a threadless headset. I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and so you've pushed me a little closer to wanting to try tubeless.
Geometry has changed big time. Slacker angles all around. Top tubes were far shorter and stems were way longer. I rode a 130 or longer stem back then. Now you rarely see an mtb with a stem over 90 cause the top tubes are way longer. Those old bikes were twitchy.
You're right, but those oldschool short frames have one huge advantage today: you can easily build a gravel grinder with a drop bar due to the short upper tube. Modern gravel bikes have almost the same frame geometry like those old 90's MTB frames. And old MTBs are dirt cheap on second hand markets.
Interesting bike and I think it's identical to my 1995 Diamond back rigid mountain bike that I cannot find much information about, I have an aluminium never painted bike, it has the same crank and 3x also 7x at the rear, shimano alivio hub and araya rims, SS spokes... it is a real work of art, one of the differences i noted is the counterlever brake arms yours are cast aluminium mine has milled plates, also the still forks are Cr-mo, the aluminium tubing size top 38mm, bottom 44mm and has two drink bottle holders, it is a very limited edition because no body knows anything about this gorgeous bike, thanks for the upload 👌👍
I still have and ride a 1994 Cannondale M400 upgraded to Shimano XT in the rear and LX in the front and V Brakes. The ride is fast, hard and the CRoMoly front fork is somewhat forgiving. I also have a 1996 AMP Research B4 upgraded to a Risse central damper! But indeed the bikes have improved and increased in price as well!
I got Mavic Crossmax wheel set from 98 in stupendous good condition(only been used as Display wheelset no marks at all on the rims) if You need a super nice retro wheel set. No org QR though.
I rode MTB in the 80's and i dont miss the components and the poor brakes.last year i saved a mongoose hilltopper sx(chrome frame) from the rubbish tip($10 AUD i posted a pic on your FB page) and went to work getting it to ride for a mates birthday ride(buy a Tip shop bike and spend less than $50 fixing it) it was a reminder of how bad they were.....But! i decided to put 10spd shimano running gear that i had laying about and its better,if i can find a Reba or similar air fork that will be going on as well but the canti brakes still horrible. I have newer bikes but i like the old ones as well.
On occasion I switch rides and break out my 92 Diamondback for a week or so and think about how hell I withstood so many miles on it.. For me biking in the future is much better...
I have an early 90's DiamondBack Topanga that I am unfortunately riding while I get back into cycling. One day I will weigh it - when I'm near a public weigh bridge: it is heavy...
hey...my bike originally bought new in '97 came with LX cranc and XT rear derailleur...and mine is still like that...so maybe this one was originally done like this to...
I have 1x12, and really don't like it. Yes, it's simpler, but I really like having good chain line and more teeth engaged -- bigger chainring and bigger cogs -- for 90% of my pedaling. On my road bikes, it is noticeably more efficient for the same gear ratio.
Hi, could you ride this bike now and record your time for a track? Then you should update the bike and ride again the same track and compare your new time! Also tell us your feelings while you are riding this bike without improvings! Regards
My brother has a trail bike from the same era. It's a specialized Titanium frame with 2nd gen deore xt (not deer head) and friction shifters. Not the best for today's XC trails. But super fun on a rail-trail/touring ride. And so light. I agree with you about the derailleur fixes. First noticed the fixes with the original SRAM X7/9/0 series. Definite cool factor when you show up with a retro bike.
4:53 There is one discipline where V brakes or hydraulic rim brakes are still proffered, it's on bike trail bikes. Ali Clarkson has great videos in fixing up a old school bike, there is a video showing how to grind the braking surface on the rims. ruclips.net/video/2I38U75yePM/видео.html
@@JoeyG333 at least on smaller bikes, they usually had disk only on front or none, cus with bike trial you can easily damage a rotor. but yea, modern bikes usually have rotors, but some don't like it.
I have an old school mtb with Shimano m739 groupset which is 1x8 speed. The Shimano FC-M739-5 crankset is 42 teeths. I want to upgrade into 28 teeth for steep climbing. Will 28T 94 mm BCD for 5-bolt Crank from Wolf Tooth would fit? Thank you.
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One underappreciated advantage disc brakes brought is that it makes it much easier to experiment with different wheel sizes. How could you have one set of 700c wheels and one set of 650b:s with cantilever brakes? Oh, I guess you could, but switching wheels like that would most likely involve quite a lot of readjustment, and maybe even swapping out parts. With disc brakes, just pop one wheel out and install the other, it can easily be done in less than a minute.
I liked saying goodbye to the quill stem, major improvement!
You'd be surprised how great of a ride that curved steele fork is.
My road bike has an aluminum frame with a og curved steele fork and i never changed it to carbon because how great it feels on road. Takes the bumps amazingly. At times i have to look down thinking my front tire is low but it never is haha. Heavier yes. Ride quality great.
You should race that in a modern bike race to see how it does.
The derailleur itself is an imperfect system and it hasnt been replaced widely in one hundred years. You have something that you need to keep pedaling exposed to rocks, sticks and just getting smashed when the bike falls to the right. Once internal gears are lighter we will all be riding without mechs period.
4 things for me
1. More than one size wheel choice. 26, 27.5, or 29er size now.
2. Hydraulic disc brakes.
3. Hollow Tech 2 cranks from Shimano in 2002
4. Dropper seat post option.
Love retro bikes I remember these new. You really know your stuff
V-brakes were such a huge improvement from cantilever.
Beautiful bike! Please don't modernize it, keep it as it is but first get the original LX rear derailleur :) i'd love to see some more clips on this bike. Love these 90s mtbs i've also got a few GTs.
It's actually like modern gravel bike with a bit smaller wheels
yep, totally. and now you can get gravel specific suspension as well. So Basically old school mtb but with bigger wheels :P
Those old bikes are great. I have a 1993 Trek Singletrack. So supple and responsive. I still ride it but only on paths and easy trails.
During lock down I am building a Retro 90's MTB, great fun to build, as it happens a Yellow and Blue Diamondback.
Simon Woodward I rebuilt my 1995 Cannondale SuperV 700. I gave it to my nephew and he loves it as a commuter bike.
I ride my 1997 centurion no pogo in the same color as yours in the video .. :)
I remember in early 90s Scott where the best bikes here in my country sLOVEnia would love to have one of those in that times. Stay safe stay at home greetings from sLOVEnia east europe
sLOVEenia is cringe.
What hasn’t changed is, that the tyres are still round....🤔😂
Modern bikes have pedals
Great video! And you are so right about the whole situation and what will make more sense than to talk about ,look at ,and ride bikes.😁
one thing that hasnt changed is seats. a good seat is still a good seat. another thing that hasnt changed in XC is the quest for weight savings. eternal!
Yeah, seats have stayed the same, apart from some some weight savings. On my Nukeproof Scout I actually ride a saddle from 1998.
I'm surprised it has a threadless headset. I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and so you've pushed me a little closer to wanting to try tubeless.
Geometry has changed big time. Slacker angles all around. Top tubes were far shorter and stems were way longer. I rode a 130 or longer stem back then. Now you rarely see an mtb with a stem over 90 cause the top tubes are way longer. Those old bikes were twitchy.
You're right, but those oldschool short frames have one huge advantage today: you can easily build a gravel grinder with a drop bar due to the short upper tube. Modern gravel bikes have almost the same frame geometry like those old 90's MTB frames. And old MTBs are dirt cheap on second hand markets.
Interesting bike and I think it's identical to my 1995 Diamond back rigid mountain bike that I cannot find much information about, I have an aluminium never painted bike, it has the same crank and 3x also 7x at the rear, shimano alivio hub and araya rims, SS spokes... it is a real work of art, one of the differences i noted is the counterlever brake arms yours are cast aluminium mine has milled plates, also the still forks are Cr-mo, the aluminium tubing size top 38mm, bottom 44mm and has two drink bottle holders, it is a very limited edition because no body knows anything about this gorgeous bike, thanks for the upload 👌👍
Amazing bike!!! With my favorite group set.
Keep up the great work. I love the vintage stuff👊😁👍
The frame looks like new! Repainted?
I dream of riding my bike.
yeah I began MTB on a bike just like that, a good rigid bike is still fun! and the best learning tool
I still have and ride a 1994 Cannondale M400 upgraded to Shimano XT in the rear and LX in the front and V Brakes. The ride is fast, hard and the CRoMoly front fork is somewhat forgiving. I also have a 1996 AMP Research B4 upgraded to a Risse central damper! But indeed the bikes have improved and increased in price as well!
Back in the day i could set up my canti brakes so they would work like Vs, it's all in the straddle lengths !
I got Mavic Crossmax wheel set from 98 in stupendous good condition(only been used as Display wheelset no marks at all on the rims) if You need a super nice retro wheel set. No org QR though.
I rode MTB in the 80's and i dont miss the components and the poor brakes.last year i saved a mongoose hilltopper sx(chrome frame) from the rubbish tip($10 AUD i posted a pic on your FB page) and went to work getting it to ride for a mates birthday ride(buy a Tip shop bike and spend less than $50 fixing it) it was a reminder of how bad they were.....But! i decided to put 10spd shimano running gear that i had laying about and its better,if i can find a Reba or similar air fork that will be going on as well but the canti brakes still horrible. I have newer bikes but i like the old ones as well.
For what hasn't changed, I'm thinking you'll say the fact that we're still using basically the same rear shifting mechanism.
really nice bike
On occasion I switch rides and break out my 92 Diamondback for a week or so and think about how hell I withstood so many miles on it.. For me biking in the future is much better...
I have an early 90's DiamondBack Topanga that I am unfortunately riding while I get back into cycling. One day I will weigh it - when I'm near a public weigh bridge: it is heavy...
@@micdev42 Yeah man they do have that "classic" heft... 👍
That's a nice bike.
let us tune our bikes and have fun
hey...my bike originally bought new in '97 came with LX cranc and XT rear derailleur...and mine is still like that...so maybe this one was originally done like this to...
I have 1x12, and really don't like it. Yes, it's simpler, but I really like having good chain line and more teeth engaged -- bigger chainring and bigger cogs -- for 90% of my pedaling. On my road bikes, it is noticeably more efficient for the same gear ratio.
Do a video on why you dont think that changing to 29er in xc was not an improvement.
I had a (1993?) Benotto with shimano 300LX and oval chainring
Buen video Ciclista Enfermo XD! Aún conservo mi GT Zaskar de 1993 pero actualizada.
Still riding my 1986 Ritchey most days, still love it
6 speed, 26 inch wheels, no problem
But have gone to 2.2 inch tyres, although still tubed
Hi, could you ride this bike now and record your time for a track? Then you should update the bike and ride again the same track and compare your new time!
Also tell us your feelings while you are riding this bike without improvings!
Regards
My brother has a trail bike from the same era. It's a specialized Titanium frame with 2nd gen deore xt (not deer head) and friction shifters. Not the best for today's XC trails. But super fun on a rail-trail/touring ride. And so light. I agree with you about the derailleur fixes. First noticed the fixes with the original SRAM X7/9/0 series. Definite cool factor when you show up with a retro bike.
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That's a thing of beauty
you have some high pitch noise in video..
4:53 There is one discipline where V brakes or hydraulic rim brakes are still proffered, it's on bike trail bikes. Ali Clarkson has great videos in fixing up a old school bike,
there is a video showing how to grind the braking surface on the rims.
ruclips.net/video/2I38U75yePM/видео.html
They still prefer disc brakes like danny MacAskill rig has no rim brakes in sight it's just most trials frames dont have disc brake adapter
@@JoeyG333 at least on smaller bikes, they usually had disk only on front or none, cus with bike trial you can easily damage a rotor.
but yea, modern bikes usually have rotors, but some don't like it.
I have an old school mtb with Shimano m739 groupset which is 1x8 speed. The Shimano FC-M739-5 crankset is 42 teeths. I want to upgrade into 28 teeth for steep climbing. Will 28T 94 mm BCD for 5-bolt Crank from Wolf Tooth would fit? Thank you.
Tran H. Gia Nghia - buy a triple
Looks like a bike for children :)
First view
Korona can`t reach mtb rider in the woods
The problem is uf you fall and need to use a hospital.
They are crowded and are a source of virus them selfes.
It's a gravel bike!
Siemano
Bakac a bit mean