I’m so grateful I found your channel. I just feel an incredible sense of compassion and empathy + / sympathy emanating from the way you decode and delve into placements. Your voice is very calming. Chiron and Pluto in my 11th but just recently found out it’s 12th in whole sign and makes so much sense to me. This was very affirming. Thank you 🤍🤍
You are so welcome! I love that you find me like that. You have made my day. Im pretty sure, I've recorded a chiron pluto conjunction video especially for you and your peers. Its a tough old aspect, but like all aspects carries a strong gift too. Yes its interesting how different our astrology looks from a whole sign perspective. I use whole for my yt forecasts but not in my practise, unless someone requested it from me. As always i recommend that you feel into what feels right for you. You might find whole sign feels like one asoe t of you and placidus feels like a different asoect. I always err on the side of the astrology user rather than astrology rules! Its in your hands. Much love xxx
Hey! Thanks for connecting. Yes, Chiron brings up pain and in the 12th it is a very bittersweet position. SOOO tender and it can lead to our deepest hurts and our most treasured gifts. I hope it brings you this beauty and mastery too . Much love xxxxx
This placement for me is very painful since I also have the moon in the 12 H w/ my Chiron. I’ve been in solitude w/o friendships for a while now, I feel deeply, & have bad social anxiety. I’m only 18 but life so far has been tough all around. Learning about this is so validating though ❤
Hi Isabel, thanks for your deep sharing. Can I ask were you born with Chiron in Capricorn or Aquarius please? And what degree is your ascendant? Over the last 15 yrs pluto has been going through Capricorn, at the start of cv19 there was a big conj of saturn pluto and jupiter in cap, and since then both jup and Saturn have made their way through Aquarius. When pluto and Saturn go through our 12th and into our 1st, we go through a tough time of super sensitivity and try to make sense of who we are. The great thing about transits is that they eventually pass. I suspect these planets were exciting your chiron and moon conjunction. Write back if you want to share more. LOVE xxxxx PS I have had the outer planets go over my asc and all personal planets and square my moon. It was my toughest time. X
I have my Chiron, north node and moon all in libra, 12 house. Scorpio rising first house. I’ve been struggling a lot with my identity and having issues communicating more than ever
Thanks for sharing. They say misery loves company but I somewhat disagree because when someone is going through something, it's a relief to know that you although different but not alone. I have those placements as well.
Don't overthink it. If your Chiron is well placed, that Chiron energy will flow freely.....well placed Chiron can develop into mastery, and leadership (Healing in action)
I have moon and Chiron in my 12H Gemini. I’ve isolated myself for the last 25 years because people around me have been blind to my suffering and I have faced many medical emergencies alone without truly having one person to count on in life. It’s a dark and scary place but I’m strong enough to handle it. I just wouldn’t be cruel to people like they have been towards me.
You have got a very good understanding of Chiron! I am a double-Pisces with Sun/Merc/Saturn/Mars all in the 12th, but have Chiron on the Ascendant. I am a spokesperson for this mess.
Thanks for stepping up to do this Jerome! As someone with a shit ton of pisces myself, I get how strong and diciplined you might need to be to 'get this done', because this world doesn't always appreciate the sensitivity, imagination and openness that the pisces nature brings to the table. Espececially as pisces is also linked to the 12th house, it's like your pisces placements are EVEN MORE piscean. Where's your moon btw?
@@feelgoodastrology When I talk with people about whats going on in my body, and it seems totally normal to me, it sounds like crazy-talk to them. That's why I liked your insights, as few others I have seen understand it. I have fire so I don't drown. Moon is in Leo 6th, Sag MH, Jupiter/Venus conjunct in Aires 1st. Chiron is transiting (second time) over the latter soon. I am a bit nervous about it as the first time it did (7 yrs old) I was struck by lightning while on a horse in Montana and became allergic to about 90% of the world until we moved to the desert in New Mexico. I have done a lot of work on my body/immunity. I have to be very disciplined about eating and practicing with the body. I am about ready to move onto our land in Tanzania where I am going to start a retreat center, which has been my desired destination all along-- sorry this is so long. jeromearmstrong.substack.com/p/at-the-end-of-the-road
I agree it is different for everyone, and depends a lot on the actual chart. This is a generalised example to illustrate and help curious people explore Chiron in their chart x
Hearing this felt painful yet true. Thank you. I'm going to be looking into chiron placements/ aspects now bc I'm feeling this so hard rn. That's y I searched it. Exactly what I needed to hear, even if painful.
I'm sorry if this was hard to listen to. It was a good few years ago that I recorded it and I can't quite remember exactly what I shared. I have since come to learn that we can heal from all our positions, and I tihnk it is from seeing the gift in the placement, and not seeing it as something that is wrong. Every placement carries with it a super power of sorts. Yours is sensitivity, which may feel sucky sometimes, but is also a gift that few possess, nor would have the courage to live with x
Despite a strong Saturn in the 1stH, I have Chiron Aries in 12thH. Poor boundaries have been a lifelong issue - choosing the wrong people to connect to & been betrayed. Trauma bonding. Unbelievably strong intuition, it’s never been wrong, but my logical mind & wishful thinking convinces me otherwise. With Aries, serious wound of not being seen. Or, being seen incorrectly,. Even by my own child that I’ve been devoted to! That’s been the worst. Horrible heart pain. At 53 I’m working on stronger boundaries but have already had awful backlash. No matter how ‘nicely’ I put things around difficult situations I’ve been called ‘rude’ or hurtful. And have stuck around to clean up but it hasn’t worked. It seems others can be more truthful and get away with truly rude behaviour. It’s honestly amazing how much is projected onto me or simply misinterpreted. It’s confusing because it seems it’s what I ought to be doing (standing up for myself) but Chiron is transiting my 12thH & I already feel that speaking truth might have started my undoing!
I feel you and hear you soul sister!!! Am going through my Chiron return right this minute (Aries 19-20 degrees), and yes lots of pain has been coming up during this time. For me, via my 12th house uranus and some awkward uranian contacts for me. With Uranus over my DC, I've had 2 run ins with older women and their uranus return at 84............watch out for that one!! be very careflu around people with their uranus return, especailly if it is transiting someitnhg in your chart!! Anyway. back to your chart. So sorry to hear about your child and the horrible heart pain. I think 12th house aspects and 7th can really show projections, but the 12th seem to be truly shocking. And difficult to unpick regarding gaslighting etc..........where's neptune in all of this for you? as in your chart and also via transit? Speaking your truth is important, but sometimes better spoken just to yourself. Your chiron healing is felt by all members of your pack and beyond, and for people who aren't ready to join you in healing, you might be activating something they can't cope with and then there's the backlash. I hope that oyu are able to find a way to express your pain in a way that they can't react to openly, but can be felt etherically, so that they get the nudge to move towards you rather than away. Love to you and your child. I hope this can resolve gracefully and fully and peacefully for you xxxxxxxxx
Last night, I was thinking about why there is always sadness inside me, why even in addition to my own sadness, I quickly notice other people's sadness and I feel sad for others, there is always a voice in my mind that I want to kill for suffocating it. Last night by accident. I noticed chiron in the 12th house and today I realized that maybe because of the chiron in the 12th house, I also have the Moon and Saturn in the 5th house in Aries.
I am sorry that this aspect is so difficult to you. The 12th is a bit of a dark spot for us and a blind spot. So we cna't always put our finger on it easily. When we get good at understadnign our Chiron / hurts insecurities etc.......we can learn mastery, so please don't give up. As a fellow empath, it can feel desperate when we feel the suffering of others. I wonder how your sensitivity can be empowering for you.... Much love to you xx
I really liked this episode. Thanks. I can not quite put my finger on what it is, but with chiron in leo (also being my AC) in the 12th house cancer, moon (8th) and Mars in Pisces it feels pretty overwhelming a lot of the time with no idea how to integrate "it" or where to start..
That is dififcult. I think the big key to chiron is in accepting where you feel sore. One of the biggest difficulty with chiron is when we try to hide what makes us feel vulnerable. I notice that when we fully step into where we feel vulnerable, it begins to transform. It starts to change the patterns. Acknowledgement and courage to feel it fully is the changing point. Much love to you x
Very accurate. My child has this placement. He's diagnosed with a processing delay and highly sensitive. It's honestly very difficult for him to even be in school. But except he seems to be the opposite with boundaries. If he doesn't want to do something he just won't other people get very frustrated with him because he's not compliment but I think it's a gift
I agree, it is a gift, and how wonderful that you can see your son's needs so clearly. I can see it would be dififcult for him in school, especailly when if you don't do what they say, you get marked down for it, which is just a compliance issue and not representative of someone's intelligence. I think working things out for yourself and making up your own mind, is the height of intelligence. THanks for sharing this with me Maria x
I do have chiron in the 12th house together with pluto there. I do relate to what you were talking but I don't know how pluto further influence this placement...
Have you already listened to the pluto in 12th house podcast too? It's in the pluto playlist. Listen to them both and then imagine blending the meaning. I think I've also recorded a chiron/pluto conjunction reading too. x
Definitely an intense position. I have cancer moon trine pluto in scorpio, along with chiron in cancer in the 12th House of cancer....I literally have to get completely away from people for at least one part of the day.
So interesting. I háve chiron in Taurus 12th House.. My life is about healing myself really. Recently in my late 30s i finished psychology UNI, now helpin others. But Recently doc found thyroid nodule, still waiting for results.. And all my deepest fear of loss came about. So Hard. Hope to solve and come out stronger out of this❤
Hello. How did you get on with the doctor? Hope your results have come back in your favour. Completely understand your fear of loss coming out. Many years ago, my body suddenly broke down and I was in hopsital on morphine. I was being tested for all sorts of scary conditions. Suddenly thinking I was facing death was so deeply frightening, especially because I felt I had achieved nothing of what I 'felt I was here for' at age 34. Recently one of my elder friends in her 70s was suddenly in hospital for a week, again looking like she might die, with a double pnuemonia. I was chatting with her today, hearing about the shock of the feeling of loss. I imagine this is a time when lots of patterns are coming up for you, Katarina. I truly hope you are able to work through this, make sense of it and like you say emerge stronger, more confident and feeling like you are on the right path. I also imagine that your client work will be much deeper because of what you've been going through. Chiron really is the wounded healer, who masters it all. They go hand in hand, which is why so many people who face dififculties, recover to help people more and more. Much love to you on your deep journey x
Hello Louisa, thank you for this episode. I resonate a lot with your description about chiron in the 12th. I like the way how you describe things, for lack of better terms, it eases my mind. I am learning Astrology and I heard something about the chiron return at the age of ~ 50 or so. I saw chiron in the transit chart is passing through my 12th house in aries, actually at 17 degrees, my natal chiron is at 22 degrees, need more research on this. greetings from a 12th sun/jupiter cazimi and chiron in the 12th house. 🙂
Hey @Jupiter_is_Safe I'm going through ym chiron return right now. It can come in from 48-51, and often we feel it coming on for a while before it hits and then expereince the after effects of it for some time. It is a time where any residual continuing 'hurts and insecurities' that we still have, come popping up for us to notice and to heal and let go of. I see the Chiron Return as a rite of passage, clearing the way for the second part of our life, free from the wounds of childhood. Where we hold onto these, they tend to reemerge in a new form. I shall record something about this soon, seeing as I am in mine right now. With it going through your 12th, you might expect to experience intense dreams and unconscious upsets coming into your consciousness. This is a tricky placement. Mine is happening in my 6th. Good luck and thanks for writing. I appreciate this x
@@feelgoodastrology I see, we share this chiron return. I am still a novice in Astrology, but there is so much truth and wisdom in your words. The intense vivid dreams are happening for me on a daily basis, with spikes in the intensity. Yes, there is a lot going on in the mind, but I'll take the time to walk through these painful experiences in the past, and as you've said - -try- to release them. I think/feel that forgiveness plays a big role in this process, and at the same time it is also the hardest part in this journey, forgiving people and the special situations and so on. I would gladly listen to your thoughts about this in one of the next episodes. It's clear to me, that you are gifted. I appreciate that a lot and buona fortuna to you and your family. 🙂
I have Chiron conjunct Mercury in my 12th house, thank you for this information as so much resonated. 19:47 I would love to see a video on this soon as well!
I didn't actually record a video about it, but most likely will in the future.I have noticed that the outer planets and the 12th house podcasts get soooooooo many more hits than the others! Thanks xxx
@@feelgoodastrology Thank you for sharing what you study & know! I want to learn all I can about it as well. These podcast talks are validating to experiences that others don’t have, much less understand as 12 housers. Keep up the great work 💫
Yes and No. I think everything is significant for different reasons, and some people will 'use' the energy more than others. Jupiter can enhance and inflame what it is close to, the closer these are together, the more they'll work together. The 12th is like a huge place of what's hidden in your life. It is also deeply psychic, unconscious and tricky to work with. Chiron, showing us our hurt/insecurities and vulnerabilities can be magical about opening up your unconscious patterns and making them conscious, But on a negative, this could also mean that all healing and insecurity matters in your life, become overwhelming., I think what is most critical is how each of these planets is made conscious and express themselves through other aspects to planets in your chart, via sign and planet. These aspects can show what you do with this energy. I also have a video about the jupiter/chiron conjunction that happened in the recent past, this could also give you more clues to what this means for you. Sorry my answer is so involved!! Thanks for sharing xxxxxxxxxx ruclips.net/video/a9IS74vU-Ek/видео.htmlsi=IeXRPQ8ocFrI-Gxk
I started to have panic attacks and visions that something bad was gonna happen.. something very specific.. i could not understand what was happening with me.. a month or so later, a big terrorist attack happened with exactly the visions I was having, wich in the first place though it was about my own life.. the moment I saw the news I knew my body just channeled the terror and suffering in advance… collective events in advance.. first time something this heavy happens! Usually it’s more like.. paranormal subtle staff.. but never thiiis heavy.. very draining.. overwhelming. How to ground yourself? And put energetic boundaries?? It’s ther a way?? I also confuse my own thouwith others cause I can perceive them.. that’s how it feels.. people think I’m always like.. off.. I’m not! Just picking up everything and everyone’s motives and energies and emotions.. so it’s just tooo much! Also having Scorpio in Pluto in 4 house! And moon in Aquarius…….. help
Hi BertaVazquez4551, you have a v ery strongly empathic chart which many would see as a blessing and also at times, a curse. I havne't experienced quite the same as you, and that terror must have been difficult top cope with. I imagine there will be times when you are more susceptible and other times when it is more easily managed. I have many thoughts on this, from my own empathy trials and tribulations, and can see that when I have hid myself away and guarded my energy, it made matters worse because I lacked support and community around me. I'm not planning on recording a video on empathy / and ultra senstivity, but when I do, may I use your chart as an example please? I think I will be called to speak on this very soon. IN the mean time, I recorded an interview with someone a few years ago on my other channel 'The Barefoot Broadcast'. Ashley Dufresne, works with empaths. Here's a link, which you might find useful. ruclips.net/video/P8p4wbsE65I/видео.htmlsi=7MUFfg4Nc9lfh3xd Much love xxx. Please do stay in touch xxxxx
Maybe. I try not to say things are definite, but that is most likely the story I would hold about this influence. It's a great story/belief to hold, because it is creating the possibility for total healing. Much love to you on your BIG HELAING journey xxxxxxxx
Thank you for sharing this with me. I imagine the last 18 months with the NN in your 12th and taurus, would have had some challenges for you. Now it's in your 11th house, things should open up for you. THANKS for stopping by to sare that with me xxx
My 5 year old baby has this in pisces. She's a water sun sign. What's going on in her life cause I can feel it too... OMG. Her father as soon as she came out said she don't look like me put her back and she had her middle finger up. Lol He used her as a shield too. My mom is abusive. My aunt She's gotten the evil eye. She was attacked in my womb. There's videos teaching people how to dream walk and some have no morals. You are only supposed to if you know the person and have had consent. I am sookie Stackhouse, telepath. I have that with her. The southern vampire mysteries. I believe in miracles. My chiron is in the 9th. Her father had his eyes go black and I'm not really cool with the links between his music and the demon I know is behind the black eyes It made sure I could see it. Evil is real. And she's sensitive. I'm hurting and don't want to keep feeling like my life is in danger. Or hers A police officer said telepathically while sounding like he was attacked to protect her he's crazy. They're trying to make me seem like I'm crazy. My dad tried to kill me and my mom when I was little My brother chased me around the house with a knife..
Thank you mysticmagentamommy for sharing the disturbing aspects of whats going on for you and your gorgeous daughter. Any parent's nightmare for sure. Chiron in 12th and or Pisces can really seem like we have a blindside and/or hidden hurts, from a really dark place. She will be super sensitive for sure, and that's the gift and the curse of it. Your 9th House Chiron can be religious, investigative and protective. If so attuned (which you obviously are), we can hear our babies calling to us before even concieving. They can choose us as parent protectors, or even arrive to protect and epxlore with us. I hope you find yourself in a safe place, where your talents and calling can evolve in grace. Chiron truly is both the wounded healer and also the guru. Much love and thanks for writing x
The Sun and Jupiter are good bed fellows to chiron, keeping healing relevant and well aspected to explore. Have you moved around a lot? The 12th can also show us where we end our days, and I have noticed lots of migrants/expats have planets in the 12th house.
you mentioned,"a strong planet in the 12th house." How about aspecting the 12th and not actually in the 12th? Jupiter is aspecting my 12th with Aries there.
That's an insightful question Michael, and the answer is a strong YES! Is Jupiter conjunct your chiron in 12th? Or is transiting Chiron aspecting your natal Jupiter. Wasn't quite sure which you meant, or maybe something else. But Jupiter and Chiron conenctions can be both a huge blessing and a step towards mastering your emotions, AND it can also inflame your insecurities and things left to heal. There are significant spiritual healing themes with Jup and Chiron. Hope this is helpful, Michael. Thanks for connecting and good luck x
@@feelgoodastrology I'm trying to teach myself astrology. This teacher who follows sidereal said to count 9 places from where jupiter is placed in my chart. That means it would be aspecting that house. Jupiter is in my 4th house. 4 (counting the 4th house) takes me to the 12th house. I follow both systems and I'm just trying to learn by any means.
@@michaeljames2084 I think it is fascinating to learn many different ways and builds resiliency. With your jupiter in your 4th house, it would make a trine aspect with Chiron in your 12th. As someone who also has a 4th house Jupiter, most of my expansion has come from unpacking my upbringing and also from trying to expand as much at home as possible. I have moved many times and lived abroad many times. I would imagine that you are able to unwind your insecurities from your 12th house Chiron, by putting yourself into different livign environments. The contrast giving you lots of material to work with. Hope this is helpful. PS I think Sidereal v Tropical gets a lot of people confused. My observation is although the signs change, the relationship between the planets and aspects stay the same. Most of my energy is deeliberately focussed on both the planets and aspects and less so with the signs. x
@@michaeljames2084 you are so welcome! Let me know what you'd like me to focus on. I've got recording schedules, and am open to record or tailor my work. You can call me Louisa by the way! Have fun
Hello to all. I consider myself to be a social introverted person. With my ascendant in Gemini, i welcome friends but my 12th house placements are powerful yet mysterious. My sun, moon and chiron are there. At times, i think im too deep for my own good. Im very intuitive and feel everything. It draws me into isolation. Pisces is the ruler of the 12H and its mutable. Its like im here to uncover what goes on in the deep hidden place be it myself or in world. Thanks for reading and feel free comment or share insight. Asè ✨️🌞🫶
Hey! Thanks for sharing a little about your own chart. Yes a 12th Sun, Moon and Chiron could really create a sense of feeling everything and staying hidden. Are these three in a conjunction? And how are they connected to other planets in your chart. I always think the aspects can show us how it is safe to express.. BIg love xxx
Your loving approach to this is very appreciated. I’ve watched a number of videos on this and the negativity is less than inspiring 😅
I appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to write this to me. I think there are benefits to all placements xxx
I’m so grateful I found your channel. I just feel an incredible sense of compassion and empathy + / sympathy emanating from the way you decode and delve into placements. Your voice is very calming. Chiron and Pluto in my 11th but just recently found out it’s 12th in whole sign and makes so much sense to me. This was very affirming. Thank you 🤍🤍
You are so welcome! I love that you find me like that. You have made my day. Im pretty sure, I've recorded a chiron pluto conjunction video especially for you and your peers. Its a tough old aspect, but like all aspects carries a strong gift too. Yes its interesting how different our astrology looks from a whole sign perspective. I use whole for my yt forecasts but not in my practise, unless someone requested it from me.
As always i recommend that you feel into what feels right for you. You might find whole sign feels like one asoe t of you and placidus feels like a different asoect. I always err on the side of the astrology user rather than astrology rules! Its in your hands. Much love xxx
This was perfect, painful but. Thank you
Hey! Thanks for connecting. Yes, Chiron brings up pain and in the 12th it is a very bittersweet position. SOOO tender and it can lead to our deepest hurts and our most treasured gifts. I hope it brings you this beauty and mastery too . Much love xxxxx
This placement for me is very painful since I also have the moon in the 12 H w/ my Chiron. I’ve been in solitude w/o friendships for a while now, I feel deeply, & have bad social anxiety. I’m only 18 but life so far has been tough all around. Learning about this is so validating though ❤
Hi Isabel, thanks for your deep sharing. Can I ask were you born with Chiron in Capricorn or Aquarius please? And what degree is your ascendant? Over the last 15 yrs pluto has been going through Capricorn, at the start of cv19 there was a big conj of saturn pluto and jupiter in cap, and since then both jup and Saturn have made their way through Aquarius. When pluto and Saturn go through our 12th and into our 1st, we go through a tough time of super sensitivity and try to make sense of who we are. The great thing about transits is that they eventually pass. I suspect these planets were exciting your chiron and moon conjunction. Write back if you want to share more. LOVE xxxxx PS I have had the outer planets go over my asc and all personal planets and square my moon. It was my toughest time. X
I have my Chiron, north node and moon all in libra, 12 house. Scorpio rising first house. I’ve been struggling a lot with my identity and having issues communicating more than ever
Thanks for sharing. They say misery loves company but I somewhat disagree because when someone is going through something, it's a relief to know that you although different but not alone. I have those placements as well.
I have Chiron 12H & 12H cancer moon
I have exactly the same signs @@Bohemianrose888
Trying to understand what I have to heal 😂😂😂 ❤❤❤ I really don't know what I have to heal.. good analysis. thank you.
Don't overthink it. If your Chiron is well placed, that Chiron energy will flow freely.....well placed Chiron can develop into mastery, and leadership (Healing in action)
12:45 - this part was perfect, well said and will definitively check out the book recommendation.
Thank you so much. It's lovely to hear when it hits the mark! x
I have moon and Chiron in my 12H Gemini. I’ve isolated myself for the last 25 years because people around me have been blind to my suffering and I have faced many medical emergencies alone without truly having one person to count on in life. It’s a dark and scary place but I’m strong enough to handle it. I just wouldn’t be cruel to people like they have been towards me.
You have got a very good understanding of Chiron! I am a double-Pisces with Sun/Merc/Saturn/Mars all in the 12th, but have Chiron on the Ascendant. I am a spokesperson for this mess.
Thanks for stepping up to do this Jerome! As someone with a shit ton of pisces myself, I get how strong and diciplined you might need to be to 'get this done', because this world doesn't always appreciate the sensitivity, imagination and openness that the pisces nature brings to the table. Espececially as pisces is also linked to the 12th house, it's like your pisces placements are EVEN MORE piscean. Where's your moon btw?
@@feelgoodastrology When I talk with people about whats going on in my body, and it seems totally normal to me, it sounds like crazy-talk to them. That's why I liked your insights, as few others I have seen understand it.
I have fire so I don't drown. Moon is in Leo 6th, Sag MH, Jupiter/Venus conjunct in Aires 1st. Chiron is transiting (second time) over the latter soon.
I am a bit nervous about it as the first time it did (7 yrs old) I was struck by lightning while on a horse in Montana and became allergic to about 90% of the world until we moved to the desert in New Mexico.
I have done a lot of work on my body/immunity. I have to be very disciplined about eating and practicing with the body.
I am about ready to move onto our land in Tanzania where I am going to start a retreat center, which has been my desired destination all along-- sorry this is so long. jeromearmstrong.substack.com/p/at-the-end-of-the-road
My research implies that its different for everyone, because u need to see what planets are there. I am beginning to understand it better now. ❤
I agree it is different for everyone, and depends a lot on the actual chart. This is a generalised example to illustrate and help curious people explore Chiron in their chart x
Hearing this felt painful yet true. Thank you. I'm going to be looking into chiron placements/ aspects now bc I'm feeling this so hard rn. That's y I searched it. Exactly what I needed to hear, even if painful.
I'm sorry if this was hard to listen to. It was a good few years ago that I recorded it and I can't quite remember exactly what I shared. I have since come to learn that we can heal from all our positions, and I tihnk it is from seeing the gift in the placement, and not seeing it as something that is wrong. Every placement carries with it a super power of sorts. Yours is sensitivity, which may feel sucky sometimes, but is also a gift that few possess, nor would have the courage to live with x
Oh no, it was exactly what I needed to hear. I looked further in and heard about the gifts. I learned something I really needed to. Thank you
Chiron, Mercury, Jupiter and the Sun all in 12th house in Cancer. I am very sensitive ❤
Despite a strong Saturn in the 1stH, I have Chiron Aries in 12thH. Poor boundaries have been a lifelong issue - choosing the wrong people to connect to & been betrayed. Trauma bonding.
Unbelievably strong intuition, it’s never been wrong, but my logical mind & wishful thinking convinces me otherwise.
With Aries, serious wound of not being seen. Or, being seen incorrectly,. Even by my own child that I’ve been devoted to! That’s been the worst. Horrible heart pain.
At 53 I’m working on stronger boundaries but have already had awful backlash. No matter how ‘nicely’ I put things around difficult situations I’ve been called ‘rude’ or hurtful. And have stuck around to clean up but it hasn’t worked. It seems others can be more truthful and get away with truly rude behaviour.
It’s honestly amazing how much is projected onto me or simply misinterpreted. It’s confusing because it seems it’s what I ought to be doing (standing up for myself) but Chiron is transiting my 12thH & I already feel that speaking truth might have started my undoing!
I feel you and hear you soul sister!!! Am going through my Chiron return right this minute (Aries 19-20 degrees), and yes lots of pain has been coming up during this time. For me, via my 12th house uranus and some awkward uranian contacts for me. With Uranus over my DC, I've had 2 run ins with older women and their uranus return at 84............watch out for that one!! be very careflu around people with their uranus return, especailly if it is transiting someitnhg in your chart!! Anyway. back to your chart. So sorry to hear about your child and the horrible heart pain. I think 12th house aspects and 7th can really show projections, but the 12th seem to be truly shocking. And difficult to unpick regarding gaslighting etc..........where's neptune in all of this for you? as in your chart and also via transit? Speaking your truth is important, but sometimes better spoken just to yourself. Your chiron healing is felt by all members of your pack and beyond, and for people who aren't ready to join you in healing, you might be activating something they can't cope with and then there's the backlash. I hope that oyu are able to find a way to express your pain in a way that they can't react to openly, but can be felt etherically, so that they get the nudge to move towards you rather than away.
Love to you and your child. I hope this can resolve gracefully and fully and peacefully for you xxxxxxxxx
Last night, I was thinking about why there is always sadness inside me, why even in addition to my own sadness, I quickly notice other people's sadness and I feel sad for others, there is always a voice in my mind that I want to kill for suffocating it. Last night by accident. I noticed chiron in the 12th house and today I realized that maybe because of the chiron in the 12th house, I also have the Moon and Saturn in the 5th house in Aries.
I am sorry that this aspect is so difficult to you. The 12th is a bit of a dark spot for us and a blind spot. So we cna't always put our finger on it easily. When we get good at understadnign our Chiron / hurts insecurities etc.......we can learn mastery, so please don't give up. As a fellow empath, it can feel desperate when we feel the suffering of others. I wonder how your sensitivity can be empowering for you.... Much love to you xx
I really liked this episode. Thanks.
I can not quite put my finger on what it is, but with chiron in leo (also being my AC) in the 12th house cancer, moon (8th) and Mars in Pisces it feels pretty overwhelming a lot of the time with no idea how to integrate "it" or where to start..
That is dififcult. I think the big key to chiron is in accepting where you feel sore. One of the biggest difficulty with chiron is when we try to hide what makes us feel vulnerable. I notice that when we fully step into where we feel vulnerable, it begins to transform. It starts to change the patterns. Acknowledgement and courage to feel it fully is the changing point. Much love to you x
Descerning , navigating my Chiron, venus, southnode and antiveetwx ALL in ARIES , ALL in 12th House...(Pisces Sun, Mercury and 12thhouse)
Very accurate. My child has this placement. He's diagnosed with a processing delay and highly sensitive. It's honestly very difficult for him to even be in school. But except he seems to be the opposite with boundaries. If he doesn't want to do something he just won't other people get very frustrated with him because he's not compliment but I think it's a gift
I agree, it is a gift, and how wonderful that you can see your son's needs so clearly. I can see it would be dififcult for him in school, especailly when if you don't do what they say, you get marked down for it, which is just a compliance issue and not representative of someone's intelligence. I think working things out for yourself and making up your own mind, is the height of intelligence. THanks for sharing this with me Maria x
I love how you want to understand your child's birth chart ❤ I wish my mom was as understanding of mine.
I do have chiron in the 12th house together with pluto there. I do relate to what you were talking but I don't know how pluto further influence this placement...
Have you already listened to the pluto in 12th house podcast too? It's in the pluto playlist. Listen to them both and then imagine blending the meaning. I think I've also recorded a chiron/pluto conjunction reading too. x
Definitely an intense position. I have cancer moon trine pluto in scorpio, along with chiron in cancer in the 12th House of cancer....I literally have to get completely away from people for at least one part of the day.
That is such a great description of what I imagine is needed. You're a super sensitive soul x
@@feelgoodastrology it helps with knowing what the other needs. I work in a hospital, physical rehabilitation, 10 years now.
So interesting. I háve chiron in Taurus 12th House.. My life is about healing myself really. Recently in my late 30s i finished psychology UNI, now helpin others. But Recently doc found thyroid nodule, still waiting for results.. And all my deepest fear of loss came about. So Hard. Hope to solve and come out stronger out of this❤
Hello. How did you get on with the doctor? Hope your results have come back in your favour. Completely understand your fear of loss coming out. Many years ago, my body suddenly broke down and I was in hopsital on morphine. I was being tested for all sorts of scary conditions. Suddenly thinking I was facing death was so deeply frightening, especially because I felt I had achieved nothing of what I 'felt I was here for' at age 34.
Recently one of my elder friends in her 70s was suddenly in hospital for a week, again looking like she might die, with a double pnuemonia. I was chatting with her today, hearing about the shock of the feeling of loss. I imagine this is a time when lots of patterns are coming up for you, Katarina. I truly hope you are able to work through this, make sense of it and like you say emerge stronger, more confident and feeling like you are on the right path. I also imagine that your client work will be much deeper because of what you've been going through. Chiron really is the wounded healer, who masters it all. They go hand in hand, which is why so many people who face dififculties, recover to help people more and more. Much love to you on your deep journey x
you spoke my life experience 💯
Thanks. Much love to you xxxx
Hello Louisa, thank you for this episode. I resonate a lot with your description about chiron in the 12th. I like the way how you describe things, for lack of better terms, it eases my mind.
I am learning Astrology and I heard something about the chiron return at the age of ~ 50 or so. I saw chiron in the transit chart is passing through my 12th house in aries, actually at 17 degrees, my natal chiron is at 22 degrees, need more research on this. greetings from a 12th sun/jupiter cazimi and chiron in the 12th house. 🙂
Hey @Jupiter_is_Safe I'm going through ym chiron return right now. It can come in from 48-51, and often we feel it coming on for a while before it hits and then expereince the after effects of it for some time. It is a time where any residual continuing 'hurts and insecurities' that we still have, come popping up for us to notice and to heal and let go of. I see the Chiron Return as a rite of passage, clearing the way for the second part of our life, free from the wounds of childhood. Where we hold onto these, they tend to reemerge in a new form. I shall record something about this soon, seeing as I am in mine right now. With it going through your 12th, you might expect to experience intense dreams and unconscious upsets coming into your consciousness. This is a tricky placement. Mine is happening in my 6th. Good luck and thanks for writing. I appreciate this x
@@feelgoodastrology I see, we share this chiron return. I am still a novice in Astrology, but there is so much truth and wisdom in your words. The intense vivid dreams are happening for me on a daily basis, with spikes in the intensity. Yes, there is a lot going on in the mind, but I'll take the time to walk through these painful experiences in the past, and as you've said - -try- to release them. I think/feel that forgiveness plays a big role in this process, and at the same time it is also the hardest part in this journey, forgiving people and the special situations and so on. I would gladly listen to your thoughts about this in one of the next episodes. It's clear to me, that you are gifted. I appreciate that a lot and buona fortuna to you and your family. 🙂
Whole sign or placides? Ist or 12th house depending…
I would listen to both and see which resonates. I used WS in these forecasts but with clients use placidus. xx
I have Chiron conjunct Mercury in my 12th house, thank you for this information as so much resonated.
19:47 I would love to see a video on this soon as well!
I didn't actually record a video about it, but most likely will in the future.I have noticed that the outer planets and the 12th house podcasts get soooooooo many more hits than the others! Thanks xxx
@@feelgoodastrology Thank you for sharing what you study & know! I want to learn all I can about it as well. These podcast talks are validating to experiences that others don’t have, much less understand as 12 housers. Keep up the great work 💫
@@kmbrlia Thank you so much xxx I will do xxx
Hi, I have Jupiter(leo) and Chiron(cancer) in my 12th house. Are those significant placements?
Yes and No. I think everything is significant for different reasons, and some people will 'use' the energy more than others. Jupiter can enhance and inflame what it is close to, the closer these are together, the more they'll work together. The 12th is like a huge place of what's hidden in your life. It is also deeply psychic, unconscious and tricky to work with. Chiron, showing us our hurt/insecurities and vulnerabilities can be magical about opening up your unconscious patterns and making them conscious, But on a negative, this could also mean that all healing and insecurity matters in your life, become overwhelming., I think what is most critical is how each of these planets is made conscious and express themselves through other aspects to planets in your chart, via sign and planet. These aspects can show what you do with this energy. I also have a video about the jupiter/chiron conjunction that happened in the recent past, this could also give you more clues to what this means for you. Sorry my answer is so involved!! Thanks for sharing xxxxxxxxxx ruclips.net/video/a9IS74vU-Ek/видео.htmlsi=IeXRPQ8ocFrI-Gxk
I have Chiron in pisces in twelfth house conjunction Saturn
I started to have panic attacks and visions that something bad was gonna happen.. something very specific.. i could not understand what was happening with me.. a month or so later, a big terrorist attack happened with exactly the visions I was having, wich in the first place though it was about my own life.. the moment I saw the news I knew my body just channeled the terror and suffering in advance… collective events in advance.. first time something this heavy happens! Usually it’s more like.. paranormal subtle staff.. but never thiiis heavy.. very draining.. overwhelming. How to ground yourself? And put energetic boundaries?? It’s ther a way?? I also confuse my own thouwith others cause I can perceive them.. that’s how it feels.. people think I’m always like.. off.. I’m not! Just picking up everything and everyone’s motives and energies and emotions.. so it’s just tooo much! Also having Scorpio in Pluto in 4 house! And moon in Aquarius…….. help
My own thoughts*
CHIRON in Cancer
VENUS-MARS in Pisces
Hi BertaVazquez4551, you have a v ery strongly empathic chart which many would see as a blessing and also at times, a curse. I havne't experienced quite the same as you, and that terror must have been difficult top cope with. I imagine there will be times when you are more susceptible and other times when it is more easily managed. I have many thoughts on this, from my own empathy trials and tribulations, and can see that when I have hid myself away and guarded my energy, it made matters worse because I lacked support and community around me. I'm not planning on recording a video on empathy / and ultra senstivity, but when I do, may I use your chart as an example please? I think I will be called to speak on this very soon. IN the mean time, I recorded an interview with someone a few years ago on my other channel 'The Barefoot Broadcast'. Ashley Dufresne, works with empaths. Here's a link, which you might find useful. ruclips.net/video/P8p4wbsE65I/видео.htmlsi=7MUFfg4Nc9lfh3xd Much love xxx. Please do stay in touch xxxxx
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My Chiron is in the last degree of the 12th house (in Taurus). Does this suggest that I'm healing every wound from every past life?
Maybe. I try not to say things are definite, but that is most likely the story I would hold about this influence. It's a great story/belief to hold, because it is creating the possibility for total healing. Much love to you on your BIG HELAING journey xxxxxxxx
That's a great perspective. I will hold to that belief! Thanks so much for replying!
@@astrallioness206 you are so welcome x
Spot on, Thanks🙏🏼🥰
Thanks for letting me know Idaluciah! x
Chiron and moon 12th house Taurus. Spot on video 😕
Thank you for sharing this with me. I imagine the last 18 months with the NN in your 12th and taurus, would have had some challenges for you. Now it's in your 11th house, things should open up for you. THANKS for stopping by to sare that with me xxx
My 5 year old baby has this in pisces.
She's a water sun sign.
What's going on in her life cause I can feel it too... OMG.
Her father as soon as she came out said she don't look like me put her back and she had her middle finger up.
Lol
He used her as a shield too.
My mom is abusive.
My aunt
She's gotten the evil eye.
She was attacked in my womb.
There's videos teaching people how to dream walk and some have no morals.
You are only supposed to if you know the person and have had consent.
I am sookie Stackhouse, telepath.
I have that with her.
The southern vampire mysteries.
I believe in miracles.
My chiron is in the 9th.
Her father had his eyes go black and I'm not really cool with the links between his music and the demon I know is behind the black eyes
It made sure I could see it.
Evil is real. And she's sensitive.
I'm hurting and don't want to keep feeling like my life is in danger. Or hers
A police officer said telepathically while sounding like he was attacked to protect her he's crazy.
They're trying to make me seem like I'm crazy.
My dad tried to kill me and my mom when I was little
My brother chased me around the house with a knife..
Thank you mysticmagentamommy for sharing the disturbing aspects of whats going on for you and your gorgeous daughter. Any parent's nightmare for sure. Chiron in 12th and or Pisces can really seem like we have a blindside and/or hidden hurts, from a really dark place. She will be super sensitive for sure, and that's the gift and the curse of it. Your 9th House Chiron can be religious, investigative and protective. If so attuned (which you obviously are), we can hear our babies calling to us before even concieving. They can choose us as parent protectors, or even arrive to protect and epxlore with us. I hope you find yourself in a safe place, where your talents and calling can evolve in grace. Chiron truly is both the wounded healer and also the guru. Much love and thanks for writing x
i have sun, jupiter and chiron in 12th
The Sun and Jupiter are good bed fellows to chiron, keeping healing relevant and well aspected to explore. Have you moved around a lot? The 12th can also show us where we end our days, and I have noticed lots of migrants/expats have planets in the 12th house.
you mentioned,"a strong planet in the 12th house." How about aspecting the 12th and not actually in the 12th? Jupiter is aspecting my 12th with Aries there.
That's an insightful question Michael, and the answer is a strong YES! Is Jupiter conjunct your chiron in 12th? Or is transiting Chiron aspecting your natal Jupiter. Wasn't quite sure which you meant, or maybe something else. But Jupiter and Chiron conenctions can be both a huge blessing and a step towards mastering your emotions, AND it can also inflame your insecurities and things left to heal. There are significant spiritual healing themes with Jup and Chiron. Hope this is helpful, Michael. Thanks for connecting and good luck x
@@feelgoodastrology I'm trying to teach myself astrology. This teacher who follows sidereal said to count 9 places from where jupiter is placed in my chart. That means it would be aspecting that house. Jupiter is in my 4th house. 4 (counting the 4th house) takes me to the 12th house. I follow both systems and I'm just trying to learn by any means.
@@michaeljames2084 I think it is fascinating to learn many different ways and builds resiliency. With your jupiter in your 4th house, it would make a trine aspect with Chiron in your 12th. As someone who also has a 4th house Jupiter, most of my expansion has come from unpacking my upbringing and also from trying to expand as much at home as possible. I have moved many times and lived abroad many times. I would imagine that you are able to unwind your insecurities from your 12th house Chiron, by putting yourself into different livign environments. The contrast giving you lots of material to work with. Hope this is helpful. PS I think Sidereal v Tropical gets a lot of people confused. My observation is although the signs change, the relationship between the planets and aspects stay the same. Most of my energy is deeliberately focussed on both the planets and aspects and less so with the signs. x
@@feelgoodastrology Thank you for the advice. I'm grateful for any morsel of knowledge I can get.
@@michaeljames2084 you are so welcome! Let me know what you'd like me to focus on. I've got recording schedules, and am open to record or tailor my work. You can call me Louisa by the way! Have fun
I have venus, and chiron in here
Bless you, sweet sensitive soul x
@@feelgoodastrology my Chiron is at 18 degrees in virgo but I read that 18 is a karmic degree do you know why that is, as I'm really confused by it
Hello to all. I consider myself to be a social introverted person. With my ascendant in Gemini, i welcome friends but my 12th house placements are powerful yet mysterious. My sun, moon and chiron are there. At times, i think im too deep for my own good. Im very intuitive and feel everything. It draws me into isolation. Pisces is the ruler of the 12H and its mutable. Its like im here to uncover what goes on in the deep hidden place be it myself or in world. Thanks for reading and feel free comment or share insight. Asè ✨️🌞🫶
Hey! Thanks for sharing a little about your own chart. Yes a 12th Sun, Moon and Chiron could really create a sense of feeling everything and staying hidden. Are these three in a conjunction? And how are they connected to other planets in your chart. I always think the aspects can show us how it is safe to express.. BIg love xxx
Wow! Thank you so much!
Glad it helped! You are so welcome xxx I also have similar playlists for pluto, saturn, north node and uranus. xx