after watching this i listened to Blue Sugar again and the lyrics suddenly took on a whole new meaning that i hadn’t noticed before :’) who knew that such a happy-sounding, upbeat song had its roots in a rough period in ren’s life, that makes my respect for him increase tenfold fr i’m glad he is where he is now
Same. I’m so glad he’s much better now and that the song is so happy sounding even if it stems from such a hard time that we’ve all been through somewhere in our life. So happy he’s part of Nijisanji EN!!!
Yeaaah, and you what it kinda reminds me for Lemon from Kenshi Yonezu. His song was kinda upbeat but the lyric is kinda sad. And when i know the fact about that song was wrote it for his grandpa/father who passed away before that song got released, that song was even more hurting.
Ever since a few years back i never really take happy and upbeat songs as truly being happy and upbeat. I've noticed with a lot of Songs (mostly Vocaloid or Japanese ones, but that's also a huge part of my Music-Library) that the Song may be Upbeat and 'happy' sounding, but the lyrics are about people in a rough place or with mental conditions etc. Like.. Look no further than DECO*27. A lot of those sound very upbeat and happy but topic minor and major things. Cinderella for example sounds quite upbeat and happy, but the lyrics are kind of about a Girl who just hates herself and feels 'not enough' for the one she has a crush on.
The lyrics really don’t help make me not think it’s not about crack lolololol I still think it could be even with his sad life story as a backdrop for it.
I personally love blue sugar not only because it’s simply a good song but it’s a song by someone that I’m inspired by and love. It’s also a song that I can relate to and not cry while listening to it. We all have had times in our lives when everything simply wasn’t ok. I’m still going threw those stages in my life but I’m glad that I can listen to this song without getting emotional
This reminds me of that analysis by one commenter’s mom. The relayer of the information said it blew their mind. Now with Ren’s explanation, that mom was definitely onto something.
Why does this man reminds me of Porter Robinson specifically, even his voice. Anyways, this type of struggles are very common for musicians especially composers, and im speaking from experience. And yes it sucks. Context: Porter is an edm producer / musician (mostly emotional and melodic). He has gone through difficult time after his first album and live shows gain huge success. He struggles with creative block while fearing that he can never recreate or surpassed his previous works and will never create something as good. Untill he made his second album which has more personal concepts as well. And now he's back on track.
When I began to look into blue sugar more I slowly did looking between the lines of the lyrics and thanks to Ren I feel like these lyrics tell a story like he said of being alive and finding true passion in something. Its lyrics also just scream "hey I procrastinate and have no motivation anymore" in a light way (i don't mean it at all in a rude way)
i was actually pretty confused on the lyrics when i listened to it at debut. i was pretty concerned about the meaning but left it. after seeing this and listening to blue sugar again, it makes so much sense
i actually relate to him a lot. i feel the same way with my writing, once i form and let out my emotions, it feels like i've at leasted sorted it out and it's easier to move on and recharge
First listen to Blue Sugar and I love it already✨💙✨ that glitchy intro that sounds like a MOBA Skin SFX and the lyrics and beat and everything I love it
I was wondering about the contrast between the lyrics and the upbeat vibe of the song. I initially thought he wrote it as a fck you to others not himself lmao.
ok, some ahem promotion on a song-- hearing ren say this reminds me of this song called Alien by Han from SKZ! that song is about feeling alone, and well, like an "alien" who doesn't fit in with the humans on earth. it's a song about just being exhausted of life and being in a dark mindset in your life. basically, if you like blue sugar then give alien a listen too!
"I want that that blue sugar high" and here he says he wanted to feel alive again with this song. So when he describes how therapeutic music is, I really want to believe the "sugar high" is exactly that--music. For the "blue" part, I'm subscribed to the popular fan theory that it's related to our planet Earth which Ren arrived on and lore-wise, it's here that he discovered music. Now to say music is his "high" may not be the deepest interpretation, but it does check of all of boxes and is honestly one of the healthiest highs imo. The right song can hit you where it feels best, address what's in your choice, and even connect you with an audience who will love it. I do have other thoughts that follow this, but I'm still organizing them and I shared enough of my insight on Blue Sugar for now.
When I first listened to Blue Sugar, I figured that that was the meaning of the song. I immediately felt a connection to Blue Sugar as I've felt the ways he has before as well. I REALLY, TRULY, WHOLEHEARTEDLY, LOVE THIS SONG!😊😭🥰
It's interesting that I've understood the meaning of the song before seeing this, some of us were like Ren before in our lives. Ren saying music can be like therapy is actually true, It's very helpful
When i heard of the song, the was the music is so upbeat but the lyrics were different from how the music protrayed. The music went well with the lyrics not to say it was bad but I was confused with this part of the lyrics,“To cut me up, paint my inside”. I’m guessing “to cut me up” meaning him(Ren) criticizing and bringing himself down. And the last part, “paint my inside”, it sound weird out of context. I’m really stuck on that part of the meaning. I want to understand what it mean but I really don’t know.
My two cents on "cut me up, paint my insides", read this or don't (be warned it gets VERY heavy): Looking back on my own experiences with depression, one thing that was really big, and I don't know if it's a depression thing or just a me thing, was that during my depressive episodes, when my mind would fog over, my body was the only way I could really feel much of anything. So I, at least, read that line as wanting to feel something, either by physicalizing the pain so it's easier to wrap your head around ("cut me up") or by drowning it out with sensation ("paint my insides"). That may well be completely different from Ren's original intent, but it's what I hear.
He's the 2nd from niji that i know went through a rough patch.. i know kanae [from niji jp] he said before he joined niji jp he also went through his own mental circus.. and like Ren he's better now too. ^w^ I can relate to them.. while they aren't my oshis' they have a special place in my heart.
I noticed the deep meaning right away actually.. since i only listen to songs with deep meanings or that make a deep meaning in my head, such as sugar crash and god-ish
I thought that blue sugar was referring to the blue packets of sugar that are really sweet (its called aspartame) and that it literally meant that he needed something really sweet in life?
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after watching this i listened to Blue Sugar again and the lyrics suddenly took on a whole new meaning that i hadn’t noticed before :’) who knew that such a happy-sounding, upbeat song had its roots in a rough period in ren’s life, that makes my respect for him increase tenfold fr i’m glad he is where he is now
Same. I’m so glad he’s much better now and that the song is so happy sounding even if it stems from such a hard time that we’ve all been through somewhere in our life. So happy he’s part of Nijisanji EN!!!
Yeaaah, and you what it kinda reminds me for Lemon from Kenshi Yonezu. His song was kinda upbeat but the lyric is kinda sad. And when i know the fact about that song was wrote it for his grandpa/father who passed away before that song got released, that song was even more hurting.
Ever since a few years back i never really take happy and upbeat songs as truly being happy and upbeat. I've noticed with a lot of Songs (mostly Vocaloid or Japanese ones, but that's also a huge part of my Music-Library) that the Song may be Upbeat and 'happy' sounding, but the lyrics are about people in a rough place or with mental conditions etc.
Like.. Look no further than DECO*27. A lot of those sound very upbeat and happy but topic minor and major things. Cinderella for example sounds quite upbeat and happy, but the lyrics are kind of about a Girl who just hates herself and feels 'not enough' for the one she has a crush on.
Sorry for thinking blue sugar was slang for crack, homie
NAUR 💀
u werent alone lol
PLS 😭
The breaking bad effect. 😂
The lyrics really don’t help make me not think it’s not about crack lolololol I still think it could be even with his sad life story as a backdrop for it.
'It doesnt make us weak, it makes us human.' .... didnt know I needed to hear this today but now I did and I feel better
or alien😉 smooth talker Ren
I personally love blue sugar not only because it’s simply a good song but it’s a song by someone that I’m inspired by and love. It’s also a song that I can relate to and not cry while listening to it. We all have had times in our lives when everything simply wasn’t ok. I’m still going threw those stages in my life but I’m glad that I can listen to this song without getting emotional
As Someone who's also had some rough mental bits in my life, I Can appreciate this story, and this brave fellow for sharing ^.^
“It doesn’t make us weak… it makes us human” will be added to my favorite frases. It holds so much power and acceptance
ren is such a precious guy!! iluna's members are just so wholesome(with a tablespoon of savagery but thats what makes them even better LMAO)
i love this song so much and now i love it more knowing what inspired him to write it ‹3
- ren deserves the world fr ! !
This makes me want to hug Ren even more...
he transformed something sad to a masterpiece. im glad he feels better now 💚
This reminds me of that analysis by one commenter’s mom. The relayer of the information said it blew their mind. Now with Ren’s explanation, that mom was definitely onto something.
I cried during this part of the stream I love him so much! blue sugar is such a good song can’t wait for his next original coming up 💚
His experience reminds me of what Sonny shared during one of his streans before
Why does this man reminds me of Porter Robinson specifically, even his voice. Anyways, this type of struggles are very common for musicians especially composers, and im speaking from experience. And yes it sucks.
Context:
Porter is an edm producer / musician (mostly emotional and melodic). He has gone through difficult time after his first album and live shows gain huge success. He struggles with creative block while fearing that he can never recreate or surpassed his previous works and will never create something as good. Untill he made his second album which has more personal concepts as well. And now he's back on track.
TRUEEEE, im so excited for Ren to create more music. This man genuinely has so much potential like Porter.
Ren was a pretty cool musician in his past life
When I began to look into blue sugar more I slowly did looking between the lines of the lyrics and thanks to Ren I feel like these lyrics tell a story like he said of being alive and finding true passion in something. Its lyrics also just scream "hey I procrastinate and have no motivation anymore" in a light way (i don't mean it at all in a rude way)
Am I the only one who thinks that this song sounds more sad/bittersweet than happy? The first time I heard it I felt like crying
Awww Ren is so talented, able to make songs from struggles
Sometimes making fun of yourself is a good thing!
REN ZOTTO CMERE IM GONNA HUG Y
i was actually pretty confused on the lyrics when i listened to it at debut. i was pretty concerned about the meaning but left it. after seeing this and listening to blue sugar again, it makes so much sense
i actually relate to him a lot. i feel the same way with my writing, once i form and let out my emotions, it feels like i've at leasted sorted it out and it's easier to move on and recharge
First listen to Blue Sugar and I love it already✨💙✨ that glitchy intro that sounds like a MOBA Skin SFX and the lyrics and beat and everything I love it
it's kind of like Kikuo, even though the music is really upbeat, the lyrics have a dark or sad undertone.
Literally why is he the best guy to ever exist.. there is so much I love about his mentality
Awww, I love him sm even if he got cats and dogs confused
I’m happy that he feels alive again cause it’s kinda hard too get back to being yourself after difficult things happen
I was wondering about the contrast between the lyrics and the upbeat vibe of the song. I initially thought he wrote it as a fck you to others not himself lmao.
I will be honest, I do feel that Blue Sugar have some sort of booster vibes. and after I watches this clip, now I really like Blue Sugar even more
this made me cry
Happy for him 🥺
I love him so much more now
ok, some ahem promotion on a song-- hearing ren say this reminds me of this song called Alien by Han from SKZ! that song is about feeling alone, and well, like an "alien" who doesn't fit in with the humans on earth. it's a song about just being exhausted of life and being in a dark mindset in your life. basically, if you like blue sugar then give alien a listen too!
I’m glad to know the meaning of the song
the fact i thought the exact thing when ie first listened to it says a lot about me but im happy hes finally find his spark again !!
"I want that that blue sugar high" and here he says he wanted to feel alive again with this song. So when he describes how therapeutic music is, I really want to believe the "sugar high" is exactly that--music. For the "blue" part, I'm subscribed to the popular fan theory that it's related to our planet Earth which Ren arrived on and lore-wise, it's here that he discovered music. Now to say music is his "high" may not be the deepest interpretation, but it does check of all of boxes and is honestly one of the healthiest highs imo. The right song can hit you where it feels best, address what's in your choice, and even connect you with an audience who will love it.
I do have other thoughts that follow this, but I'm still organizing them and I shared enough of my insight on Blue Sugar for now.
When I first listened to Blue Sugar, I figured that that was the meaning of the song. I immediately felt a connection to Blue Sugar as I've felt the ways he has before as well. I REALLY, TRULY, WHOLEHEARTEDLY, LOVE THIS SONG!😊😭🥰
It's interesting that I've understood the meaning of the song before seeing this, some of us were like Ren before in our lives. Ren saying music can be like therapy is actually true, It's very helpful
why do i relate to him😂😂😂😂
I was never sure if I should just take Blue Sugar at face value or if there was a deeper meaning behind it. All I know is that prozac is blue.
When i heard of the song, the was the music is so upbeat but the lyrics were different from how the music protrayed. The music went well with the lyrics not to say it was bad but I was confused with this part of the lyrics,“To cut me up, paint my inside”. I’m guessing “to cut me up” meaning him(Ren) criticizing and bringing himself down. And the last part, “paint my inside”, it sound weird out of context. I’m really stuck on that part of the meaning. I want to understand what it mean but I really don’t know.
My two cents on "cut me up, paint my insides", read this or don't (be warned it gets VERY heavy):
Looking back on my own experiences with depression, one thing that was really big, and I don't know if it's a depression thing or just a me thing, was that during my depressive episodes, when my mind would fog over, my body was the only way I could really feel much of anything. So I, at least, read that line as wanting to feel something, either by physicalizing the pain so it's easier to wrap your head around ("cut me up") or by drowning it out with sensation ("paint my insides"). That may well be completely different from Ren's original intent, but it's what I hear.
“I wrote this song myself”
*that’s it that’s the end of the stream*
He's the 2nd from niji that i know went through a rough patch.. i know kanae [from niji jp] he said before he joined niji jp he also went through his own mental circus.. and like Ren he's better now too. ^w^ I can relate to them.. while they aren't my oshis' they have a special place in my heart.
I noticed the deep meaning right away actually.. since i only listen to songs with deep meanings or that make a deep meaning in my head, such as sugar crash and god-ish
so thats why "to cup me up, paint my insides" is like meaning that his empty and his life has no emotions(?)
Why is it always the song that seems Happy is the sad songs
Wow, I thought it was about drugs and someone getting high. LOL.
I thought that blue sugar was referring to the blue packets of sugar that are really sweet (its called aspartame) and that it literally meant that he needed something really sweet in life?
I initially thought Blue Sugar was a Breaking Bad reference lol
No it's not, It's a drug and Ren's mental illness
I honestly thought it was abt a break up💀