The full truth of the story may never come out, but what we can all agree on is Bellamy has form for being a horrible little man. If it was another player who’s always been seen as a good role model, maybe some people would be more inclined to think it was exaggerated. But based on his track record I’d say it’s absolutely true. Bellamy has always come across as a little toerag with a bad temperament.
Well ,multiple witnesses says it happened and bellamy walked .it was probably much worse Good job he got caught and out of a job,let's hope it impacts his commentary jobs too
@@cymro9559 if it's found to be true then I would suggest Mr Bellamy will be the loser ...job as coach and Sky Sports pundit to start. It's opinions and you have yours like the rest of people here
I believe Bellamy has previous, Jamie Carragher's autobiography talks about how Bellamy verbally abused a youngster at Liverpool so badly that he left the club.
@@derekciwell4733 Fuck off Derek the da was told to stop it by his own kid and he ignored her. He was clearly taunting Jamie for ages prior to recording it. Yes Jamie was an idiot, but the Father was no angel.
@@MrJohnnydublin I said he was an idiot. And I'll tell someone to fuck off when they're trying to score cheap points. Additionally, driving while using the phone is a low thing to do you could kill it's worse than spitting. Also, seeing as you're from Dublin I'm sure you hear worse on a daily a basis.
But not true. Souness actually said "come on then, you and me" ... Bellamy turned his back. What? he wants to have a stand up with a man with a dicky heart? No.. he didnt.
Why has Bellamy even been given a chance to work with youth player's when as a player he had issue's with player's, managers coaches. Disgraceful let us coaches have a chance who actually work with young player's
This story doesn't suprisse me going by the way Bellamy has been spoken about by ex players that he played with or came up against, innocent until proven guilty but in this case I think he will be shown to indeed be a bully
Well said Simon. My 10 year old is in his 4th season of rugby. The coach shouts at them when he needs to and the parents leave him to it. We have no prima donnas or snowflakes, just a great bunch of kids who respect the coach, the sport, each other and the opposition. I talked my son out of playing football last year (he was playing both) because the parents were screaming at the kids in-match, wanting to fight opposition parents and constantly moaning st the coach if their kid didn’t play as the parent wanted.
With Suarez the whole squad wore shirts with his face on it lol even though the guy said himself the racial word he used towards evra is what his wife calls him sometimes as a joke so it shouldn't be taken wrongly...
Because there is no 'racism' in football. Nobody gives a shit what colour their top striker or winger are. You live in a fantasy world created by groups like Kick it out to justify their funding.
@@freedomisslavery6840 you have got me wrong I am saying players that claim racism are not being told just tough up like Jordan is saying. ae we going to wrap all players up in cotton wool or just players that claim racism
Agree with the general PC stuff that Jordan talks about, but this does sound like Bellamy has made this young lads’ life hell for no other reason than Bellamy being egotistical and acting the big man. If so, he deserves all he’s about to get
@@KyleB978-0 i would agree with this. The difference between tough love and bullying is as wide as the gran canyon. You know when your being bullied or taken down a peg or two. There not the samething.
Jordan, there is nothing that justifies being treating that way. Bellamy is supposed to be a professional. If the kid was doing something wrong then Bellamy should have pulled him aside and had a word.
Jordan’s sense of self importance and thinking his opinions are more valuable and insightful compared to everyone else. He’s a footballing know nothing, and everything he does and displays is in the height of bad taste
The guy took a golf swing to Riise cause he felt insulted in front his teammates. Maybe wait for the investigation to finish before you say you have some magical knowledge
If the aim is to better the player you understand, if the aim is to humiliate, scare, scar and be little it is bullying the key is earning respect as the coach if you frighten rather teach you failed. I get the argument but any coaching aim is to improve the players so they improve and learn from you. A place of power is to help others.
It’s funny how people complain about talkSPORT and supposedly don’t like it, yet they actually still tune in to listen and continue to wind themselves up. Makes total sense....
I’m surprised someone can just make an allegation and all of a sudden the name is outed in the media , hence he says trial by media. Already he is gonna be guilty regardless of the outcome . He will always be branded a bully .
It would take a lot of planning to make up a story like that. I completely believe what that boys father said during that piece. As for Bellamy, I, like a lot of other people, think he’s a complete and utter thug.
The Suzanne vega song Lula is a classic song about child abuse. I do think bullying is evil. I do not know what happened between Bellamy and the child in terms of bullying . But bullying needs to be stopped.
The way he was treated wasn’t right but the bad language etc he heard was no different from my 16yr old in prem league basketball from his coaches. Sometimes things don’t work out and kids ain’t good enough....simple as. I’ve heard Craig Bellamy s version and it gives a different perspective altogether. People shouldn’t judge without hearing both sides.
I can just picture that arrogant twat Bellamy bulling a kid and of course his version would be different what do u think his gonna openly admit to that type of behaviour .
Most players don't like Bellamy and his attitude on the pitch stunk. Why you would have him in a position of influence over youth players is beyond me.
Sounds like he was not going to make it as a footballer but no excuse to treat people like that, but if the English national anthem came on tv in Wales it gets turned off or booed.
What nonsense. So if your child was humiliated in front of their colleagues over and over by their boss, so that the boss looks clever in front of his staff. What would you call it? It’s bullying and nobody should be bullied in their work environment. You don’t just put up with it.
I make this bloke right. I was a youth worker for many years and the best way of building a young persons character is to take a group of them camping somewhere in the middle of nowhere where they have to face challenges and hardship and learn to work together (i.e put them in the shit together and they will find a way). However, this kind of youth work has disappeared completely and it's another example of young people not being shown the inevitable obstacles adult life will throw at them and not being made to take personal responsibility. I feel sorry for so called millenials, they are so entitled because they are products of piss poor and lazy parenting. We can't blame them, we made them that way.
Football is a cut throat business and Bellamy is never one to beat around the bush, he will tell you what he thinks regardless of feelings. Maybe things could've been handled a bit better but what I will say is there is nothing worse for a kid on the football pitch than a pushy parent on the sidelines.
He said about Bristol, "I hate them more because they are English" Completely unacceptable, think about what would've happened if he said that about blacks or any other racial or ethnic groups.
People these days are way too precious and sheltered. We got a good hiding when I was a kid. The kids these days wouldn’t have lasted 2 minutes, back then. Snowflakes everywhere.
Coaching is unlocking a person's potential, to maximise their growth. (John Whitmore) As a coach lead by example, motivate and listen to the young people. You can build character, challenge and develop the person. As a coach you need to be a roll model. Inspire them, you never know who walks in your shadow.
totally get what Jordan is saying...loss of the apprentice culture and earning your spurs is a huge loss to young men developing respect and a work ethic
I have worked in child protection and safeguarding. How Craig Bellamy secured the role at Cardiff City FC is beyond me. Employers have a legislative duty of care to pursue references from previous employers and a fully enhanced DBS Disclosure. Once references and a DBS have been secured, only then would a decision be made as to whether an individual is appropriate for the role and whether to one, interview the candidate and two, make a formal offer of employment. Employers ought to be acutely aware of their due diligence obligations, future litigation and potential safeguarding risk. In my capacity as a parent, would I be comfortable with Craig Bellamy coaching my children? No, absolutely not. His biography contains little suggestion of any remorse for what occurred while he was employed by Liverpool FC. In view of that, Craig Bellamy represents a significant risk of well-being to others.
The book was released months ago! It's not like the story has just come out. It's been in print since September, well before this bullying claim came to light.
If Bellamy is guilty of what was said then the guy is a bully. It's fine in my opinion to give negative comments when it is warranted but it's got to be done in the right way. To do it continually and for no legitimate reason is psychologically abuse. Bellamy should stay away from coaching youngsters as he obviously has issues if stories about him are true. Bullys who pick on young kids are just cowards. As for Simon Jordan. He's just another ego given a microphone by Talksport. Some of their presenters are beyond s**t.
I don't know the full story of what happened here but I joined the Army in the late 70s and then the Police later on . What used to be called discipline in those days is now called bullying ! Character is not built on Lilly livered liberal society based values . Simon is right 100%.
@@thomasskeffington4539 the thing I find hilarious is that, they blame the kids for being weak. Yet is it not the adults, who are the ones making the rules. It's got nothing to do with the kids
Stupid comment re Pogba. If your boss keeps telling you that you are rubbish then you will become rubbish. Players do not need treating with kid gloves but need a bit of carrot AND stick not just stick all the time.
Alan Butterworth try telling that to all the players that played under Fergie. He spoke the truth and the players that couldn’t handle it were cast out and too right!
@@stephenparker8250 But SAF also put his arm around his players and never blamed them for anything in public. When Mourinho was basically telling Pogba to fuck off in training and singling him out for things like Instagram posts (when it wasn't just him) and embarrassing him by calling the bloody club's head of media into an open training session, why would any player want to try their best for that person?
Exactly - Fergie wasn't just blowing his top & "hairdrying" constantly. You can't foster loyalty or generate performances for the duration he did by being a prick all the time. He knew how to make them feel like world beaters first & then would rip into them if they got complacent.
Why is Jordan even on the show. Even after listening to the fathers story he tried to blame the victim. Jordan is probably a bigger bully than even Bellamy.
Trial by radio, the lad didn't make it and can't handle it. Craig went to Norwich 300 miles away from home when he was a kid, knuckled down and made it in the game.
Two sides to every story football has gone soft. Craig is a proud Cardiff boy and Welshman hope one day he gets a job back at Cardiff one day has a lot to give back to football after retiring
Simon Jordan is so far gone with his ego it’s literally not worth listening to a word he says, as for the situation, sounds totally believable. Bellamy always has had a chip on his shoulder, toxic man.
What is Craig Bellamy's problem he had to start somewhere! He had to go to Norwhich to get a chance. Arrogant prick that he is. Talk sport need to get him on for a chat
Honestly how many clubs does this lad need to get rejected from for Dad to get the message, clearly Alfie is a trier however not good enough for proffesional football and it comes across your massivly in denial Im sorry but this is a young man not a child , not an infant and sadly needs to realise he might not play at the level he wants to
Not excusing Bellamy's actions as I wasn't actually there to see it, but maybe this kid just wasn't cut out for the demands of English football. We all know that the weaker boys can easily make themselves a target and get swallowed up, I was one of those. It also sounds like he wasn't impressing any of the previous clubs either so did he think that the red carpet would be laid out for him into the first team or what?
can i just say - never really liked him, but have massive respect for simon jordan and what he said at the start of this clip. he was spot on. sounds like bellamy at the moment has alot to learn about youth coaching. reckon it's a tough job.
So what happens when a player is outcasted by a club they train with the younger ages. The manager/coach doesnt want anything to do with them. 17 your still a adult no matter what, to me this seems like too many immature MEN are still getting mummy and daddy to fight there battles for them. Try playing rugby your ego is smacked out of you from 10. MEN NEED TO MAN UP
That whole station's full of middle aged Bigots, with a history of Bullying and Political posturing. Whether it be Alan Brazil's scathing of absolutely anything or anyone left leaning on a daily basis, or Bob Mills inability to get through a show without derogatizing a Northern accent at every opportunity. Add to that the pompous privilaged opinions of the likes Simon Jordon, Mike Parry and Mike Graham. Unfortunately, Talksport is a modern day version of the draconian BBC of the 70's, 80's and 90's and in my humble opinion, has absolutely no regard for impartiality in it's broadcasting.
Too much speculation here. Either side might be speaking the truth or the third option is that the truth lies somehere in the middle (as mentioned by Oneman Oneman).
So glad the dad came in and told the actual story. Jordan chatting crap before he came on and still had the nerve to ask did he do anything to deserve the abuse and bullying he was being subjected too. No matter what he did there is no reason to treat someone like that. To single someone out on a daily biased. To slag him off to the other players. No excuses!
Everyone’s battering Craig like you know what’s going on. Chelsea released his lad, spurs did, West Ham did...he’s now in America right? So presumably Cardiff did too...now the old boy has got the hump and wants to stain Craig’s character. I remember Nicky Butt saying the first team zipped him into a kit bag once and packed him with the luggage on the team coach. I feel like the games gone soft and everyone at 16 thinks they’ve already made it. I guess we will see what comes out.
Do you think being zipped in a kit bag and put it to the luggage compartment of a coach made him a better player, or that sort of thing is ok to do. If anyone did that to a child of mine they'd be getting something heavy smashed over their head as I see that as an equivalent response that they should accept in the same jolly spirit.
SUMMARY: Bellamy = nasty arse hole. Alfie = thinks he’s the next big thing. Dad = pushy, ex pro talking in his son’s ear about football etiquette and what to do to get ahead of the game and stand out. Alfie sets up his own micro training sessions, comes across arrogant, rubs Bellamy the wrong way. Words are said, parents don’t like it. This is the world we live in. All parties are in the wrong. Misguidance, parents trying to vicariously be professional footballers (again) through their kids. All very petulant... but this is generation victim.
i dont know bellamy deosn't have the best track record for a man who tried to smash riise with a golf club wouldn't suprise that he bullys young players
He was told by Alan shearer if he ever returned to Newcastle he was going to bray fuck out of him. Don’t think this kid had to do much wrong to have Bellamy turn on him. Probably took one look and thought. I don’t like this kid
Who knows but Bellamy always did come across as the local village scallywag/bully to me. I warmed to him on sky sports as he generally kept my interest. But I find this fairly believable. Again though, who knows.
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The full truth of the story may never come out, but what we can all agree on is Bellamy has form for being a horrible little man. If it was another player who’s always been seen as a good role model, maybe some people would be more inclined to think it was exaggerated. But based on his track record I’d say it’s absolutely true. Bellamy has always come across as a little toerag with a bad temperament.
Well ,multiple witnesses says it happened and bellamy walked .it was probably much worse
Good job he got caught and out of a job,let's hope it impacts his commentary jobs too
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The lads father speaks sense and sounds as if it’s the truth, it shows Bellamy what I have always thought and that he is a first class wanker
agreed - he comes across like a right tool
I read referee Howard Webb's book and he says he was the one player in his time who came across as a wanker and gave him non stop hassle
Bellamy tells it how it is, you guys are losers
@@cymro9559 if it's found to be true then I would suggest Mr Bellamy will be the loser ...job as coach and Sky Sports pundit to start. It's opinions and you have yours like the rest of people here
@@paulbradynsno8513 original
Calls in at 7:30
Not all heros wear capes .. salute
Thanks! Couldn’t listen to anymore drivel from Jordan!
Thank you
Star man, thank you
Anyone who attacks a team mate with a golf club and has his record shouldn't be working with kids
Golfers can attack team mates with golf clubs but i believe footballers should attack teammates with footballs. Same principle goes with all sports
Yeah hes supposed to be a hard man,why use a golf club if hes so tough.....
@@williamking1905 coz it was John Arne Riise who would have smashed him into next week!
@Kevin Davies lol yeah good point
@@williamking1905 Go and ask him, him he's not hard to find.
I believe Bellamy has previous, Jamie Carragher's autobiography talks about how Bellamy verbally abused a youngster at Liverpool so badly that he left the club.
paul kirk , carragher who spits at children , has no say on morals
@@derekciwell4733 Fuck off Derek the da was told to stop it by his own kid and he ignored her. He was clearly taunting Jamie for ages prior to recording it. Yes Jamie was an idiot, but the Father was no angel.
He did spit thought and it’s low thing to do.telling someone to F off online is not a nice thing either
@@MrJohnnydublin I said he was an idiot. And I'll tell someone to fuck off when they're trying to score cheap points. Additionally, driving while using the phone is a low thing to do you could kill it's worse than spitting. Also, seeing as you're from Dublin I'm sure you hear worse on a daily a basis.
@@colmfarrel4742 he shoulda have took a shit on his car bonnet
Empty vessels make the most noise.... Jordan sounds like he's Bellamy's mate out to discredit the story...
John Smith Think you misread his comment
Craig Bellamy always came across as rather a nasty character, and not the sort of person you would want around you.
Bellamy always struck me as a CLASSIC WANKER, good to see my instincts are sharp if this is true.
Jimbobjim jim are u Jimbib from periscope 😂
Love the story about Souness offering him out and Bellamy bottling it.
But not true. Souness actually said "come on then, you and me" ... Bellamy turned his
back. What? he wants to have a stand up with a man with a dicky heart? No.. he didnt.
Why has Bellamy even been given a chance to work with youth player's when as a player he had issue's with player's, managers coaches. Disgraceful let us coaches have a chance who actually work with young player's
And we watching and listening suck it up.
This story doesn't suprisse me going by the way Bellamy has been spoken about by ex players that he played with or came up against, innocent until proven guilty but in this case I think he will be shown to indeed be a bully
Well said Simon. My 10 year old is in his 4th season of rugby. The coach shouts at them when he needs to and the parents leave him to it. We have no prima donnas or snowflakes, just a great bunch of kids who respect the coach, the sport, each other and the opposition. I talked my son out of playing football last year (he was playing both) because the parents were screaming at the kids in-match, wanting to fight opposition parents and constantly moaning st the coach if their kid didn’t play as the parent wanted.
And I imagine football is exactly the same. But this seems to be beyond that.
Ask John Arne Riise how he views Bellamy.
This aint the attitude they have with racism in football.
KICK IT OUT!
With Suarez the whole squad wore shirts with his face on it lol even though the guy said himself the racial word he used towards evra is what his wife calls him sometimes as a joke so it shouldn't be taken wrongly...
Because there is no 'racism' in football. Nobody gives a shit what colour their top striker or winger are. You live in a fantasy world created by groups like Kick it out to justify their funding.
@@freedomisslavery6840 you have got me wrong I am saying players that claim racism are not being told just tough up like Jordan is saying. ae we going to wrap all players up in cotton wool or just players that claim racism
Agree with the general PC stuff that Jordan talks about, but this does sound like Bellamy has made this young lads’ life hell for no other reason than Bellamy being egotistical and acting the big man. If so, he deserves all he’s about to get
100%! Not everything is to do with pc and general liberal softness, sometimes people are out of order and need dealing with.
@@KyleB978-0 i would agree with this. The difference between tough love and bullying is as wide as the gran canyon. You know when your being bullied or taken down a peg or two. There not the samething.
Bullying is a different thing to coaching. Bellamy has always been a dick, everyone in football knows that.
Jordan, there is nothing that justifies being treating that way. Bellamy is supposed to be a professional. If the kid was doing something wrong then Bellamy should have pulled him aside and had a word.
Austerity is a con you opinions are the reason why we have snowflakes and the game is now spoilt.
Jordan’s sense of self importance and thinking his opinions are more valuable and insightful compared to everyone else. He’s a footballing know nothing, and everything he does and displays is in the height of bad taste
Mark Richardson Bellamy is a thug and a bully, I know I seen him
TELE6220 😂😂
@@me4374 elaborate please.
Seems to me he's just giving his opinion.
Paul Daniels How’s Debbie?
The guy took a golf swing to Riise cause he felt insulted in front his teammates. Maybe wait for the investigation to finish before you say you have some magical knowledge
Bellamy now playing the depression card to gain sympathy. Plays the victim card like many bullys.
Scary thing about this is...sounds like things Bellamy would say😂 I can literally hear his voice saying those things
........'' theres no more robust industry than football''
What an utter,utter tool Jordan truly is!
7.18 - When the Bully Accuser calls.
Shame the line isn't great and also Jim white s continual insistence on interrupting him.
you can see Bellamy is bully by the way he talks to kids when Jimmy Bullard took 'know the drill' to the training ground.
Craig Bellamy: Wanker
Jim White: Wanker
Simon Jordan: Wanker
Wankers, all of them.
Sounds like this guy is trying to stick up for Bellamy while trying to sit snug on the fence lol
If the aim is to better the player you understand, if the aim is to humiliate, scare, scar and be little it is bullying the key is earning respect as the coach if you frighten rather teach you failed. I get the argument but any coaching aim is to improve the players so they improve and learn from you. A place of power is to help others.
It’s funny how people complain about talkSPORT and supposedly don’t like it, yet they actually still tune in to listen and continue to wind themselves up. Makes total sense....
Interesting how Paul Pogba managed to make into the conversation
I’m surprised someone can just make an allegation and all of a sudden the name is outed in the media , hence he says trial by media. Already he is gonna be guilty regardless of the outcome . He will always be branded a bully .
We all know Bellamy is a melt
It would take a lot of planning to make up a story like that. I completely believe what that boys father said during that piece. As for Bellamy, I, like a lot of other people, think he’s a complete and utter thug.
Surely this compromises any investigation
The Suzanne vega song Lula is a classic song about child abuse.
I do think bullying is evil.
I do not know what happened between Bellamy and the child in terms of bullying .
But bullying needs to be stopped.
The way he was treated wasn’t right but the bad language etc he heard was no different from my 16yr old in prem league basketball from his coaches.
Sometimes things don’t work out and kids ain’t good enough....simple as.
I’ve heard Craig Bellamy s version and it gives a different perspective altogether.
People shouldn’t judge without hearing both sides.
I can just picture that arrogant twat Bellamy bulling a kid and of course his version would be different what do u think his gonna openly admit to that type of behaviour .
As a newcastle fan we know what Beardsley was like and he embarrassed himself and fucked his legacy with that nonsense.
It's Craig Bellamy. Of course it's true.
Bit random but what was that song at the beginning of this you tube clip?
"Luka" is a song written and recorded by Suzanne Vega,
@@dneilmusic1434
Brilliant. Thank you for that 😁
Most players don't like Bellamy and his attitude on the pitch stunk. Why you would have him in a position of influence over youth players is beyond me.
Sounds like he was not going to make it as a footballer but no excuse to treat people like that, but if the English national anthem came on tv in Wales it gets turned off or booed.
Jordan is right on PC culture and the radical liberals it drives me up the wall
What nonsense. So if your child was humiliated in front of their colleagues over and over by their boss, so that the boss looks clever in front of his staff. What would you call it? It’s bullying and nobody should be bullied in their work environment. You don’t just put up with it.
Sounds like a spot on dad
Typically spineless Talksport. They complain about trial by media then tell only one side of the story.
The TMZ of English sport.
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Simon Jordan is a typical TalkSport presenter - he talks a lot without saying anything
When it comes to coaching youngsters it’s not about the calibre of player it’s about the calibre of coach and, even more so, the calibre of man.
wonder where the kid is playing now
#prayforalfie
I make this bloke right. I was a youth worker for many years and the best way of building a young persons character is to take a group of them camping somewhere in the middle of nowhere where they have to face challenges and hardship and learn to work together (i.e put them in the shit together and they will find a way). However, this kind of youth work has disappeared completely and it's another example of young people not being shown the inevitable obstacles adult life will throw at them and not being made to take personal responsibility. I feel sorry for so called millenials, they are so entitled because they are products of piss poor and lazy parenting. We can't blame them, we made them that way.
Football is a cut throat business and Bellamy is never one to beat around the bush, he will tell you what he thinks regardless of feelings. Maybe things could've been handled a bit better but what I will say is there is nothing worse for a kid on the football pitch than a pushy parent on the sidelines.
How would they be i they wokred in an office? A pub. A call centre being shouted at all the time.
He said about Bristol, "I hate them more because they are English" Completely unacceptable, think about what would've happened if he said that about blacks or any other racial or ethnic groups.
Whoa, the liberals won't like it but Simon is spot on.
People these days are way too precious and sheltered. We got a good hiding when I was a kid. The kids these days wouldn’t have lasted 2 minutes, back then. Snowflakes everywhere.
Does that make it right? Or, better?
Pogba is a world champion unlike any current English players! Leave him out of your bullshits.
Coaching is unlocking a person's potential, to maximise their growth. (John Whitmore)
As a coach lead by example, motivate and listen to the young people. You can build character, challenge and develop the person.
As a coach you need to be a roll model. Inspire them, you never know who walks in your shadow.
Coaching is national express
How many clubs did Bellamy have, that my tell a story.
totally get what Jordan is saying...loss of the apprentice culture and earning your spurs is a huge loss to young men developing respect and a work ethic
If his son was a striker then i could maybe understand bellamys harsh critic of the boy . Bellamy was top player
This is normal, I've seen and heard worse. Most coaches are like this. Thats the culture of youth fball in this country.
Jim white. The king of trial by media
Laughable looking little Bellamy
I have worked in child protection and safeguarding. How Craig Bellamy secured the role at Cardiff City FC is beyond me. Employers have a legislative duty of care to pursue references from previous employers and a fully enhanced DBS Disclosure. Once references and a DBS have been secured, only then would a decision be made as to whether an individual is appropriate for the role and whether to one, interview the candidate and two, make a formal offer of employment. Employers ought to be acutely aware of their due diligence obligations, future litigation and potential safeguarding risk. In my capacity as a parent, would I be comfortable with Craig Bellamy coaching my children? No, absolutely not. His biography contains little suggestion of any remorse for what occurred while he was employed by Liverpool FC. In view of that, Craig Bellamy represents a significant risk of well-being to others.
My name is Luka ♫
Simon is right, very strange how that Jon Arne rise story comes out then few days later this comes out, like the media picks someone out
Jon Arne rise has got a book coming out?
dneilmusic14 yeah that is genuine but now this suddenly comes out
I think theres gonna be a lot more coming out, everyone who knows bellamy has witnessed things like this.
There's a story in his book, about Bellamy smashes Rise with a golf club.
The book was released months ago! It's not like the story has just come out. It's been in print since September, well before this bullying claim came to light.
If Bellamy is guilty of what was said then the guy is a bully. It's fine in my opinion to give negative comments when it is warranted but it's got to be done in the right way. To do it continually and for no legitimate reason is psychologically abuse. Bellamy should stay away from coaching youngsters as he obviously has issues if stories about him are true. Bullys who pick on young kids are just cowards.
As for Simon Jordan. He's just another ego given a microphone by Talksport. Some of their presenters are beyond s**t.
no one knows what happened. FACT.
what happened to innocent untill proven guilty.
Bombed out of 3 clubs and Bellamy doesn’t like the lad for no reason at all. 🤷♂️
Pogba is the role model of today's cry baby generation... god help them.
Thoughts on that Simon Jordan?
They should never have let him out of the coach toilet he was locked in.
All comments from people under the age of thirty five , Jordan is bang on.
I don't know the full story of what happened here but I joined the Army in the late 70s and then the Police later on . What used to be called discipline in those days is now called bullying ! Character is not built on Lilly livered liberal society based values . Simon is right 100%.
What so your idea of having character is letting someone be bullied. That's not character and its not tough if anything it's more weak
So that’s why everything has turned out so well then. Because everyone loves the police and army.
@@thomasskeffington4539 the thing I find hilarious is that, they blame the kids for being weak. Yet is it not the adults, who are the ones making the rules. It's got nothing to do with the kids
What a load of bollocks
Yeah, being shouted at abused & hit is a great way to build confidence. Numpty.
Stupid comment re Pogba. If your boss keeps telling you that you are rubbish then you will become rubbish. Players do not need treating with kid gloves but need a bit of carrot AND stick not just stick all the time.
Alan Butterworth it’s true though You 🛎 end
Alan Butterworth try telling that to all the players that played under Fergie. He spoke the truth and the players that couldn’t handle it were cast out and too right!
@@stephenparker8250 But SAF also put his arm around his players and never blamed them for anything in public. When Mourinho was basically telling Pogba to fuck off in training and singling him out for things like Instagram posts (when it wasn't just him) and embarrassing him by calling the bloody club's head of media into an open training session, why would any player want to try their best for that person?
Exactly - Fergie wasn't just blowing his top & "hairdrying" constantly. You can't foster loyalty or generate performances for the duration he did by being a prick all the time. He knew how to make them feel like world beaters first & then would rip into them if they got complacent.
Pogba is an absolute bellend though.
bellamy is a bellend
Why is Jordan even on the show. Even after listening to the fathers story he tried to blame the victim. Jordan is probably a bigger bully than even Bellamy.
What did Bellamy do?
Trial by radio, the lad didn't make it and can't handle it. Craig went to Norwich 300 miles away from home when he was a kid, knuckled down and made it in the game.
Two sides to every story football has gone soft. Craig is a proud Cardiff boy and Welshman hope one day he gets a job back at Cardiff one day has a lot to give back to football after retiring
David madden former Crystal Palace player.
Simon Jordan is so far gone with his ego it’s literally not worth listening to a word he says, as for the situation, sounds totally believable. Bellamy always has had a chip on his shoulder, toxic man.
These footballers seem a very unpleasant bunch.
What is Craig Bellamy's problem he had to start somewhere! He had to go to Norwhich to get a chance. Arrogant prick that he is. Talk sport need to get him on for a chat
Honestly how many clubs does this lad need to get rejected from for Dad to get the message, clearly Alfie is a trier however not good enough for proffesional football and it comes across your massivly in denial
Im sorry but this is a young man not a child , not an infant and sadly needs to realise he might not play at the level he wants to
Honestly Bellamy would get a slap
Not excusing Bellamy's actions as I wasn't actually there to see it, but maybe this kid just wasn't cut out for the demands of English football. We all know that the weaker boys can easily make themselves a target and get swallowed up, I was one of those. It also sounds like he wasn't impressing any of the previous clubs either so did he think that the red carpet would be laid out for him into the first team or what?
Craig should give alfie a slap
can i just say - never really liked him, but have massive respect for simon jordan and what he said at the start of this clip. he was spot on. sounds like bellamy at the moment has alot to learn about youth coaching. reckon it's a tough job.
So what happens when a player is outcasted by a club they train with the younger ages. The manager/coach doesnt want anything to do with them. 17 your still a adult no matter what, to me this seems like too many immature MEN are still getting mummy and daddy to fight there battles for them. Try playing rugby your ego is smacked out of you from 10. MEN NEED TO MAN UP
That whole station's full of middle aged Bigots, with a history of Bullying and Political posturing. Whether it be Alan Brazil's scathing of absolutely anything or anyone left leaning on a daily basis, or Bob Mills inability to get through a show without derogatizing a Northern accent at every opportunity. Add to that the pompous privilaged opinions of the likes Simon Jordon, Mike Parry and Mike Graham. Unfortunately, Talksport is a modern day version of the draconian BBC of the 70's, 80's and 90's and in my humble opinion, has absolutely no regard for impartiality in it's broadcasting.
Bellamy told him he wasn't good enough I assume. Cardiff haven't had any good youngsters for years....Bellamy there to do a job.
welshie1979 rubbish he's a known thug
@@paulbradynsno8513 you know well neil ? Tell me more
Neil Rogers wankers in football are usually labelled that by being brutally honest on all levels
Lewis Cook what about when he attacked Jon arrne riise with a golf club he's a known thug
@@Fd20y wise and wise
Too much speculation here. Either side might be speaking the truth or the third option is that the truth lies somehere in the middle (as mentioned by Oneman Oneman).
So glad the dad came in and told the actual story. Jordan chatting crap before he came on and still had the nerve to ask did he do anything to deserve the abuse and bullying he was being subjected too. No matter what he did there is no reason to treat someone like that. To single someone out on a daily biased. To slag him off to the other players. No excuses!
Exactly. Just because you know Bellamy the mate, don't mean you know Bellamy the coach.
What did Bellamy actually do?
Everyone’s battering Craig like you know what’s going on. Chelsea released his lad, spurs did, West Ham did...he’s now in America right? So presumably Cardiff did too...now the old boy has got the hump and wants to stain Craig’s character. I remember Nicky Butt saying the first team zipped him into a kit bag once and packed him with the luggage on the team coach. I feel like the games gone soft and everyone at 16 thinks they’ve already made it. I guess we will see what comes out.
He was highly thought of at Cardiff!
dneilmusic14 fair play. Hopefully it’s not bullying though I guess we’ll see
Do you think being zipped in a kit bag and put it to the luggage compartment of a coach made him a better player, or that sort of thing is ok to do. If anyone did that to a child of mine they'd be getting something heavy smashed over their head as I see that as an equivalent response that they should accept in the same jolly spirit.
Making someone feel unwelcome and embarrassed everyday, is different to a prank.
danfire70 you completely missed the point. 😂👍
Bellamy is an UXB
Never used to like Simon Jordan but hearing him talk on talk sport the more I like him
mark nye he speaks for the fans
SUMMARY:
Bellamy = nasty arse hole.
Alfie = thinks he’s the next big thing.
Dad = pushy, ex pro talking in his son’s ear about football etiquette and what to do to get ahead of the game and stand out.
Alfie sets up his own micro training sessions, comes across arrogant, rubs Bellamy the wrong way. Words are said, parents don’t like it.
This is the world we live in. All parties are in the wrong. Misguidance, parents trying to vicariously be professional footballers (again) through their kids. All very petulant... but this is generation victim.
That sounds spot on there!
i dont know bellamy deosn't have the best track record for a man who tried to smash riise with a golf club wouldn't suprise that he bullys young players
He was told by Alan shearer if he ever returned to Newcastle he was going to bray fuck out of him. Don’t think this kid had to do much wrong to have Bellamy turn on him. Probably took one look and thought. I don’t like this kid
So, speaking as someone who knows fuck all about the situation, you thought you'd summarise? Well done.
I was unsure but listening to the father bellamy sounds like a bully. Has jamie Carragher spat on anyone lately?
Who knows but Bellamy always did come across as the local village scallywag/bully to me. I warmed to him on sky sports as he generally kept my interest. But I find this fairly believable. Again though, who knows.