I like 2x11 so much. Especially 40t cassete and short cage derailiuer. Super quick shifting, always accurate, resistant to hits, replaceble lowest cogs, gears close to each other, front shifting work even in horrible mud, no chainfall thanks front derailleuer...
My hanger was not bent, but it's mounting surface portion was misshapen and worn. I shimmed here and there til I got it straight. Chain jumping solved.
Just buy a spare hanger for your specific bike. When in doubt its easily changed and if it doesn't fix your problem you can at least rule that component out.
I bought a brand new bike 2 years ago, and together with the bike I told the shop to order a new derailleur hanger. They questioned why I would want that with a new bike... I'm just lost for words by people like that and especially when people like that service bikes all day every day. You can bend the hanger and/or derailleur on your first ride so of course it's wise to just get one and be prepared.
@@a8f235 ??? No, my point is that you can’t trust the alignment on a new hanger, so it may not give you the correct read on your alignment issues. Hanger gauge/adjuster tool is your friend.
My symtom for a bent hanger was I set the cable tension so the middle gears work, then going up the cassette I would have too much cable tension, then for the smaller gears I had too little cable tension! Remember with cable tension you can only have too much or too little, not both! This problem made me swap out my whole garbaruk 11spd groupset for 12spd sram eagle and I still had the same problem. It was a brand new frameset so a bent hanger didn't even cross my mind.
Also, I understand you set the tension while in the smallest cog but since I was having issues, I set the tension so middle was aligned because I could visually see it better.
My 11sp skips past gear #5. No adjustment fixes it. I replaced chain, cassette, cable and problem is still there. Looks like a bent hanger causes this kind of issue, so a hanger alignment tool is coming from aliexpress. Hope that fixes it.
I have a 7 gear bike that isnt going up to the highest gear im not experienced with the derailleur but ive an idea about them the hangers straight the chain looks straight when lined up to a appropriate gear and the changeing cable already looks pretty tight ,there is a back turn adjuster on the cable which has helped with all the other gears they sound and jump into gear proper its just the highest or the biggest sproket on the rack
Muito boa a sua explicação, eu gosto muito de 2x10 com coroas 24/38 e cassete 11/46. E o 2x11 com coroas 26/36 e cassete 11/46 ❤. Se fosse coroa 26/38 ou 26/40 iria gostar muito mais!🤗
My sram eagle setup (sx derailleur lol) was working perfectly. It had been a while so I replaced the shift cables and took the pulley wheels off the derailleur to clean and regrease them. Now it doesn't want to stay in the 42t (11th) gear. Either wants to shift to the 10th or 12th. Super annoying..
I get noise when on the large cog, but the noise comes from the single front ring. Just looks like it's because of the alignment issue on the large cog with these 1x drivetrains.
I have a 1x12 drivetrain with XTR derailleur. I did have a bent derailleur and have bent it back in shape. It did fix my derailleur for the most part, but now I have nothing to adjust when it's on the largest cog to avoid the chain going too far. The adjustment screw is all the way out so I can only adjust the cage outward. If I backpedal at the largest cog there will be slight click-click noises, so I would just like to know if the cage really should be slightly more inward to get a better alignment with the upper cog. It's such and extreme angle so I just find it hard to really evaluate if the pulley is centered with the cog or what the cause really is.
@@jeromep4148 If I need the derailleur moved in towards the wheel, how will it help to move it *_away..._* Please read the comment as well as explaining why you think your solution is a problem if you want to answer other people's questions.
@@jeromep4148 If there was anything to adjust with the screw I would just do that and I would have nothing to post. Your posts contradict themselves because you have failed to try to understand and now blame me for your own choice of not really reading what I wrote. I am only responsible for finding my own answers in life, and blaming others for our own mistakes is for cowards.
I have a 1 by 10 conversion, when pedaling the noise from the chain is very distinctive even tho it's lubed, been to few bike shops and they told me that, there are no bends and cracks and it's fine but I am just not feeling it...
I’m pretty sure my derailleur hanger isn’t bent. Because it’s in two pieces. Oh, and my derailleur is bent for sure because it looks like number 7 from the side.
I like 2x11 so much. Especially 40t cassete and short cage derailiuer. Super quick shifting, always accurate, resistant to hits, replaceble lowest cogs, gears close to each other, front shifting work even in horrible mud, no chainfall thanks front derailleuer...
My hanger was not bent, but it's mounting surface portion was misshapen and worn. I shimmed here and there til I got it straight. Chain jumping solved.
Just buy a spare hanger for your specific bike. When in doubt its easily changed and if it doesn't fix your problem you can at least rule that component out.
I bought a brand new bike 2 years ago, and together with the bike I told the shop to order a new derailleur hanger. They questioned why I would want that with a new bike...
I'm just lost for words by people like that and especially when people like that service bikes all day every day. You can bend the hanger and/or derailleur on your first ride so of course it's wise to just get one and be prepared.
@@a8f235that’s when you walk out and never do business with them again lol
New hangers can arrive bent.
@@MehYam2112 So you're just going to throw away the whole bike when you get gear shifting issues then. Nice.
@@a8f235 ??? No, my point is that you can’t trust the alignment on a new hanger, so it may not give you the correct read on your alignment issues. Hanger gauge/adjuster tool is your friend.
Super nice Tipp. This explanation fixed my Problem.
My symtom for a bent hanger was I set the cable tension so the middle gears work, then going up the cassette I would have too much cable tension, then for the smaller gears I had too little cable tension!
Remember with cable tension you can only have too much or too little, not both! This problem made me swap out my whole garbaruk 11spd groupset for 12spd sram eagle and I still had the same problem. It was a brand new frameset so a bent hanger didn't even cross my mind.
Also, I understand you set the tension while in the smallest cog but since I was having issues, I set the tension so middle was aligned because I could visually see it better.
When in doubt, ALWAYS follow the park tool guide 😅
My 11sp skips past gear #5. No adjustment fixes it. I replaced chain, cassette, cable and problem is still there. Looks like a bent hanger causes this kind of issue, so a hanger alignment tool is coming from aliexpress. Hope that fixes it.
Nice vid, will certainly use the tip on future restoration projects. Greetings from the Netherlands!
I have a 7 gear bike that isnt going up to the highest gear im not experienced with the derailleur but ive an idea about them the hangers straight the chain looks straight when lined up to a appropriate gear and the changeing cable already looks pretty tight ,there is a back turn adjuster on the cable which has helped with all the other gears they sound and jump into gear proper its just the highest or the biggest sproket on the rack
It's good to see someone call out SRAM and Shimano for these stupid, expensve 1x drivetrains. The chainline is horrible.
Muito boa a sua explicação, eu gosto muito de 2x10 com coroas 24/38 e cassete 11/46. E o 2x11 com coroas 26/36 e cassete 11/46 ❤. Se fosse coroa 26/38 ou 26/40 iria gostar muito mais!🤗
My sram eagle setup (sx derailleur lol) was working perfectly. It had been a while so I replaced the shift cables and took the pulley wheels off the derailleur to clean and regrease them. Now it doesn't want to stay in the 42t (11th) gear. Either wants to shift to the 10th or 12th. Super annoying..
I get noise when on the large cog, but the noise comes from the single front ring. Just looks like it's because of the alignment issue on the large cog with these 1x drivetrains.
I have a 1x12 drivetrain with XTR derailleur. I did have a bent derailleur and have bent it back in shape. It did fix my derailleur for the most part, but now I have nothing to adjust when it's on the largest cog to avoid the chain going too far. The adjustment screw is all the way out so I can only adjust the cage outward. If I backpedal at the largest cog there will be slight click-click noises, so I would just like to know if the cage really should be slightly more inward to get a better alignment with the upper cog. It's such and extreme angle so I just find it hard to really evaluate if the pulley is centered with the cog or what the cause really is.
@@jeromep4148 If I need the derailleur moved in towards the wheel, how will it help to move it *_away..._*
Please read the comment as well as explaining why you think your solution is a problem if you want to answer other people's questions.
@@jeromep4148
If there was anything to adjust with the screw I would just do that and I would have nothing to post. Your posts contradict themselves because you have failed to try to understand and now blame me for your own choice of not really reading what I wrote.
I am only responsible for finding my own answers in life, and blaming others for our own mistakes is for cowards.
Great video thank you.
I have a 1 by 10 conversion, when pedaling the noise from the chain is very distinctive even tho it's lubed, been to few bike shops and they told me that, there are no bends and cracks and it's fine but I am just not feeling it...
What gloves you use ? I liked the ones in the video
Good points
If the spring between pulleys which pulls them vertically is frozen and doesnt move freely,does it mean it's bent?
Take into consideration that newer 12 speed derailleurs have a slight pulley misalignment from factory.
He does
Easy to tell
Have the problem where chain gets off the lower pulley. Swapped to a new derailur and the problem persists. Guess I’m the faulty 10%. 😢
I’m pretty sure my derailleur hanger isn’t bent. Because it’s in two pieces.
Oh, and my derailleur is bent for sure because it looks like number 7 from the side.
I use the old AXS derailleur + full aluminum UDH, problem solved
0:29 let's GO TO the bike . . . proceeds to walk AWAY from the bike!
haha
Glad to see the oiled chain, not the waxxed chain.
Hi
Is Canyon Exceed better or Scott Scale 940?
Please if you can share your experience
badly designed?