This Might Be How Total War Star Wars Will Play
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Total War: Star Wars - it's a title I never thought I'd seriously talk about, yet one that fascinates me now that it has become a real possibility. Whether you're excited for the idea or not, one must wonder what such a title would bring to the series, and what Creative Assembly would need to change up in terms of battles, mechanics, and campaigns to represent the Star Wars universe to the best of its ability.
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I think the biggest change will occur on the battle map, due to the different ways I assume Star Wars battles are fought compared to the more pre-modern warfare or gunpowder eras of prior Total War games. But what about naval battles? Will they make a grand return, and spawn a revival of naval battles in Total War games? And what will the campaign map look like? Let me know your thoughts on this video and this topic in the comments, and make sure to leave a like and subscribe to the channel!
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Have they finally created a brand new engine? I just cannot see how any of those new games would work on the current engine.
its like they are going out of their way to avoid giving us games we actually want
Don’t want
Well, they know if they mess up it is very difficult to recover, so might as well keep those aces. (Yes I am extremely coping right now)
Nah bro imagine a total war with star wars. It can be incredible
I would like to know what did you imagine coz I can't. Not in the frame of of total war I know for 20+ years @@amisicro955
As if history buffs are the only people who love total war lmao
I'm kinda skeptical for this one. It could be a great thing or just a meh title.
Personally i'll choose an Empire 2, but if the game is well done could really work.
My only concern is the factions, a friend of mine is a huge fan of SW and not everybody in the galaxy has quite the large army, maybe 4 factions at least (this based on Clone Wars setting which can be Republic, Separatists, Mandalorians & The Hutts)
Yes, it feels like it would primarily be a Republic versus Separatist game, but perhaps with various factions represented by different senators/political groups or even generals or the Jedi council itself? Idk will be interesting to see
@@AndysTake hopefully we'll know more about it in a near future.
Awesome video, as always.
It's going to be Troy reskinned Star Wars. 😂
@@AndysTakethere are also the crime syndicates and neutral factions (one lead by Mandalor). There could be a mechanic to get the support of the mid-rim planets (who follow the lead of Kashyyyk) or play as them and choose a side.
For the separatist and republic, you could play as a certain general :
Grievous, Trench, Poggle the Lesser, ... for the separatist
And the systems armies generals (Kenobi, Mace Windu, Plo Koon?...) for the republic.
That way you have different specialisations at different places on the map.
Then you could have the main republic (Palpatine/senate/jedi council) and separatist (Dooku/separatist senate) factions be a bit like the Emperor in three kingdoms TW.
If there is a transition to the Empire, there should be a choice between the jedi general of the systems army or the army commander (so you choose to continue for or against the empire afterwards).
@@FS-mi9sn this sounds awesome dude haha
"bringing a game that respects the source material" - Well, Star Wars itself is not respecting its own source material. I don't see much chance.
If the developers respect it more than Disney it will be funny
CA has brought warhammer fantasy from the grave with a faithful representation into the total war formula. Who says they can’t do the same with star wars? Disney has seemingly disrespected star wars as much as game workshop had did to warhammer fantasy. Who knows, it might work out.
@@mesuper455They can’t do the same with Star Wars because star wars will inevitably be based on Disney Canon which is shit.
Except Disney has guidelines that you have to follow and they wouldnt Bring in Legends Material since that would Exposé how Shit their own Disney Canon is
@tacoblude8208 thats an assumption tho 😊
just make empire 2 or medieval 3. its really the simple. they will make heaps.
pls, do this, sw tw will be a great sh*t, just do empire 2!!!
This is why you guys are the worst community
how will this help? have you seen how dogshit the series has been the last few years? Do you think they would suddenly fix their shit if they made those games?
@thomassmith8140 I'd happily take them because Modders will make it a thousand times better.
The old Republic scenario vs the sith empire would be also nice.
Nah Idc what these people saying...."oh plz give us lotr tw we want that" like gimme a break we got warhammer (a blades and sorcery like total war) a star wars total war is a breathe of fresh air
CA will go to mars but not go to medieval 3 won't they :(
I don't even trust them to pull a good medieval game anymore. Can you imagine the amount of BS DLCs for factions and start dates.
They will make Mongol, Jihad, and Crusader as DLC, you must spend more money to open more faction🗿😂🤣
AS much as I want a historical total war, i've been wanting a Star Wars strategy game for eons now. Pretty much ALL of them were weighted to the Early 00's.
Play empire at war then with mods you wont get a better strategy Game than this.
I'm pretty excited for something like this. I'm really hoping it's got some cool diplomacy and some cool diverse factions
Better to have a Total War set in Middle Earth.
If you were not already aware, there is a mod for Medieval 2 called "Divide And Conquer" (currently in its "V5" ) that takes place roughly around the war of the ring in LOTR.
Now, there is also "Third Age Total War" which is the OG LOTR mod for Medieval 2... but it hasn't been updated for over a decade (i think) and thus does not have as much content as one might expect. TATW does have a literal campaign for the war of the ring where you play as the Fellowship itself and get to experience battles from the books/movies such as the battle of the Pelennor fields ( i won't spoil more than that though).TATW only has like 10-15 factions though (ish, i cannot guarantee that there is more than 10)
Meanwhile, Divide and Conquer has a ton of factions (more than 20 at least) , thus also tons of units and to an extent also a bunch of scripted events, such as being able to reform/remake Arnor or the Reunited Kingdom as the Northern Dunedain (a faction in DAC) ... but again, i do not want to spoil too much lol. IMPORTANT: This mod does have a ton of fan made content including a black numenorean faction that starts as a horde around Umbar... so the mod isn't 100% faithful to tolkien canon, but it's still majority canon-friendly. :)
TATW has something similar to this as you can at least form Arnor in that mod (maybe RK too, but idk for sure).
My point with this essay being that a Middle Earth Total War / Total war set in the third age of LOTR/ Middle Earth already exists which is something i doubt even CA could do better than these modders already have.
Now, there is a 4th age mod for Rome 1 ... but i forgot what it's called but i can look it up if you want to know this too (it is basically almost entirely fan-made stuff tho, but with as much as possible from actual Tolkien canon included as far as i know)
In addition, there is a 2nd age mod for Medieval 2 but i haven't seen anything on that one for at least 2-3 years (almost certainly is still up tho).
And finally, there is a 1st age mod currently in development (no properly functional campaign but they do have skirmish more or less set up) which is called 'Silmarillion total war'. I forgot which creator/YTber usually posts skirmish replays on STW but it's something along the lines of 'monster' so if you search 'Silmarillion total war monster' / 'Monster Silmarillion total war' or something like that... you should find him with ease, as he could serve as an introduction to STW to some extent (at least for the unit rosters.
And honorable mention, there are 3 DAC / LOTR mods creators i recommend
- Ligizd (seemingly borderline retired unfortunately- or something happened IRL, idk. Crap ton of content to watch.)
- Izzy (basically on break/ quit / retired... one of the three, but there is a crap ton of letsplays from this man.)
- Augimund (more of a 'i impose restrictions on myself to make a difficult mod even harder' creator but you might enjoy this content aswell)
@@classical4872 Im know and played the Third Age mod some years ago. But the other I didnt know of, thanks I will check it out!
@@azoniarnl3362 I went and double checked
(Med2) 2nd age mod: DCI Last Alliance
(Rome 1) 4th age mod: Fourth Age: Total War
For the 4th age mod, there is a youtuber called 'Count MRVHS' that iirc is also a dev/maybe even the sole dev for FATW and he usually uploads content at least weekly/monthly but i cannot guarantee anything.
I imagine the Company of Heroes style game, with hiding inside buildings, destruction etc but without base and unit production (this would be done like in any other Total War) and on a bigger scale.
I have been talking about a TW Star Wars and would fucking love to have that.
I’m convinced that I won’t live long enough to get a Medieval 3 or Empire 2!!!! CA just forgot about their original fan base.
Is it so hard for them to focus on what the fan base wants?
Creative Assembly will literally come up with anything before making Medieval 3 lmfao
CA devs are simply geniuses! You can't have pathfinding issues in space! There, they fixed their longest standing bug without even hiring a coder!
You see Star Wars' battles aren like WWII they are like WWI and that's what make this rumour all the way more plausible.
They will give us historical title and in the same time try key mechanics they want SW:TW operates on (it could make a lot of people happy).
Then they will go with Warhammer 40K to try all the space stuff how does it work with Total War and after that they will know exactly how to model Star Wars Total War.
It has potential to overcame Warhammer I and II.
Side effect of that is that we won't get Medieval III or Early Modern TW any time soon..
Curious if it will be the old republic, the prequels, sequels or disney star wars. I really hope it's not the latter.
this has the potential to be my dream game!!
If it doesn’t have naval battles I won’t be playing
The things that need to change for Total War go beyond whatever the theme is.
We need a dev team thats actually allowed to create a FULL GAME. Not 80% of a video game and then the last 20% is only included in the pre-order. No coming out with DLC 2 months after release that could have been in the base game. No more of this "17% of the entire funding goes into the pockets of ceos that dont do anything"
We. Want. A. Video. Game. Not. A. Virtual. Store. Shelf.
If the make total war Stars Wars like Empire at War but modern, it could be a decent game. However, they just need to focus on Medieval 3 and a new and improve diplomatic tree and religion.
Surely they'd be combining the FPS stuff they would have been developing with Hyenas with Total War-esque gameplay to create battles where you can actually partake on an individual level?
To me this would be the most logical reason why they chose Star Wars in the first place. If it were the case then it would be great, so long as they can find a way to make it work.
I am sad for them abandoning a medieval or new shogun game. Actually a new Napoleon with much larger battles and more realistic map for grand tactics would be best for me
I will play star wars total war to death listen I'm a history geek especially total war historical but if they're making star wars total war I'm ALL IN let them make BIG MONEY I will buy a new pc if they do this right. Space battles galactic map heroes huge planetary invasions it can be done it can be done well they need tp listen and il spend money
I would love to see a Star Wars the Clone Wars Total War Game.
If creative assembly want to go nuts why not a Fate total war.?
A) they already make a game for the specific tastes of a country.
B) put Alexander plus Genghis khan and Joanne of arc on the same map sounds crazy fun
C) why not make Aristotle a life wizard? Fate would work just fine with the Warhammer 3 magic system.
I think star wars it's just on that point where it's still way far from what they usually do yet still too conservative to knock it out of the park.
I don't like Star Wars, so I won't get it, BUT I respect this if it's a title. Now, I see only one way it could work: if they focused on just one or a few very important planets, maybe divided like the Empire map was between Eurasia and the Americas. That's the only way it could work with the total war formula and, even then, it'll probably have the single-unit and character focuses, which I despise, so eh. Good luck for those that would enjoy it, though.
CA has only made Warhammer games or crap for the past 10 years.... 0 interest in this
Why can’t we just get a ww1 total war game? Or medieval 3? Or literally any historical setting?
IDK why he keeps on going to that random forum post. The information that post is compiling comes from Legend, Darren, and established Star Wars leakers.
Can't wait to see how CA will royally fuck this up
Hear me out, Its not set in the films time period, people hear "Star wars" and think the films, What if its set long ago in the war between the jedi and the sith, largely with sabers and such
i think star wars as a concept for TW is awesome/something to look forward to by CA but it also depends.
if star wars gets made by CA then the engine should be so far away, so "alien" from what we are used to in total war games that it shouldn't be even considered a "total war." game, or branded as such and put in the same series as the other total wars.
it should just be branded as a completely different series/game line/franchise, whatever you call it, if the game engine is radically different from what the total war series already is then it should be something other than "total war." and if its not radically different from the total war franchise in terms of engine then it'll already probably fail as a total war and star wars strategy game.
I like to be optimistic for the sake of "possibilities." but I'm also quite cautious and skeptical especially considering from my pov that warhammer 40k would be a better starting off choice for a new engine as there is already quite a melee focus in 40k so its not just "guns gun guns and maybe some lightsabers here n there." (since star wars was not really melee focused in comparison excluding the jedi/sith/mandalorian's whose beskar could compete with lightsabers... if they had beskar that is)
If we go just by the movies, tactics don’t exist. If we look at the clone wars, clones are clearly segmented into squads, platoons, Companies, etc….
I dont want disney touching my total war games is all im saying
or you can play modded Empire at War for a great game now
I think those are great news. We shouldn't be so negative about it. Let's think about it this way: CA is literally trying to get out of the failure that was Pharaoh, and they KNOW we want an historical total war, if they just tackled that request, after so many "meh" titles, they could release a terrible game, and we all would be disappointed after waiting so much time for those historical titles. Instead, with this star wars game, they can try new mechanics, ideas and make an experience so they can get feedback and follow a path that makes us comfortable and then release a very good and polished historical title. I personally think this is a better idea so we don't get a bad medieval 3 or empire 2 or any historical title based on Pharaoh mechanics.
All they had to do was make a truly good historical title like Medieval 3 and all mistakes would be forgiven. But no. Instead we get a game set in the dying fantasy franchise of Disney's Star Wars.
I don't think this what Total War fans need tbh, the last few installments have been so expensive and lacking at the same time. I would love to see a modernized empire with amazing graphics/sounds, smooth tactical gameplay and heavy feeling cavalry.
I see a copy and paste coming. CA will just use these names to hype us up and hand us nothing that special. I could be wrong, I hope I am. Based on what we've gotten in the last 10 years, I'm not optimistic.
And again CA is going for big names in the hope for big money and leaving long time fans who kept the lights on at CA all those years in the dust .... again...yes CA needs to make money but is it too much to ask to give fans first a big historical title and then jump into new things......
Star Wars is the most basic sci-fi IP. This would just make TW appeal to the normies making it shit.
I want a medieval total war as well just much as the next total war fan, but the idea of this does intrigue me being that I’m a huge Star Wars fan! Not really sure “how” it will work within the total war format seeing that melee combat is a focal point in almost every total war game. But hey we’ll see. Still don’t understand why they won’t just make a medieval 2 though.
And how many factions will we have ? 2 ? And maybe 10 non playable factions like Jabba or the remainder of the trade federation ? Wow unbelievable. And again stupid heroes, jedis....solo who takes on 20 000 stormtroopers.....wow......will buy it for sure lol
i wanted DUNE but ill take it
I doubt its total war
Probably just a star wars rts from the same devs
I have no idea how they would do the star wars combat with total wars formulas
If it is it definitely will not be galactic civil war because that had almost only small scale conflict
And they would NEED to bring back naval combat in some space type of form
Look at Empire at war and say again Galactic CIVIL war has only small scale also Not to mention the EU content
@@laisphinto6372 my friend that ground combat in empire at war is small scale compared to anything in any total war game
And sure legends has some large scale ground combat in the civil war but all of that is post endor and even then still very rare as most combat we see in those stories focus on space or elite units
Pretty sure total war SW would just be a EaW style game 😂
And probably worse a modern Star wars strategy Game has to BE better than Empire at war and its mods i dont See IT happening
Oh he'll I like star war but not in total war give me medieval 3
I hope you aren't again going to hype up Total War and CA like crazy untill we have a disastrous release when you will pretend you haven't been hyping it up and saying it is "revolutionary", "amazing" and "looking great" when everyone is reticent about what will be done.
Him and the Terminator do this all the time. They were spouting for months "Medieval 3 confirmed" and that it was going to a "series revival". We instead got mediocre crap in Pharoh.
SMH, they needed LOTR. . .
If you were not already aware, there is a mod for Medieval 2 called "Divide And Conquer" (currently in its "V5" ) that takes place roughly around the war of the ring in LOTR.
Now, there is also "Third Age Total War" which is the OG LOTR mod for Medieval 2... but it hasn't been updated for over a decade (i think) and thus does not have as much content as one might expect. TATW does have a literal campaign for the war of the ring where you play as the Fellowship itself and get to experience battles from the books/movies such as the battle of the Pelennor fields ( i won't spoil more than that though).TATW only has like 10-15 factions though (ish, i cannot guarantee that there is more than 10)
Meanwhile, Divide and Conquer has a ton of factions (more than 20 at least) , thus also tons of units and to an extent also a bunch of scripted events, such as being able to reform/remake Arnor or the Reunited Kingdom as the Northern Dunedain (a faction in DAC) ... but again, i do not want to spoil too much lol. IMPORTANT: This mod does have a ton of fan made content including a black numenorean faction that starts as a horde around Umbar... so the mod isn't 100% faithful to tolkien canon, but it's still majority canon-friendly. :)
TATW has something similar to this as you can at least form Arnor in that mod (maybe RK too, but idk for sure).
My point with this essay being that a Middle Earth Total War / Total war set in the third age of LOTR/ Middle Earth already exists which is something i doubt even CA could do better than these modders already have.
Now, there is a 4th age mod for Rome 1 ... but i forgot what it's called but i can look it up if you want to know this too (it is basically almost entirely fan-made stuff tho, but with as much as possible from actual Tolkien canon included as far as i know)
In addition, there is a 2nd age mod for Medieval 2 but i haven't seen anything on that one for at least 2-3 years (almost certainly is still up tho).
And finally, there is a 1st age mod currently in development (no properly functional campaign but they do have skirmish more or less set up) which is called 'Silmarillion total war'. I forgot which creator/YTber usually posts skirmish replays on STW but it's something along the lines of 'monster' so if you search 'Silmarillion total war monster' / 'Monster Silmarillion total war' or something like that... you should find him with ease, as he could serve as an introduction to STW to some extent (at least for the unit rosters.
And honorable mention, there are 3 DAC / LOTR mods creators i recommend
- Ligizd (seemingly borderline retired unfortunately- or something happened IRL, idk. Crap ton of content to watch.)
- Izzy (basically on break/ quit / retired... one of the three, but there is a crap ton of letsplays from this man.)
- Augimund (more of a 'i impose restrictions on myself to make a difficult mod even harder' creator but you might enjoy this content aswell)
yooooooooooooooooooo
I’m sorry but like historical total war was so much better
Idk it will be Disneys Star Wars… eww 🤮
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tfw all the salty Med 3 dreamers in the comments :DD
I need star wars total war to go "MY ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE REPUBLIC TO DEMOCRACY" "If your not with me then your my enemy!" "Only a sith deals in absolutes, I will do what I must" *epic battle total war*
Yeeeees lmao
Wut? 🤦
@@devapath8951 epic speech of obi wan vs anakin from the third star wars movie
@@gavinsepicgaming9835 and how could the meaning of this sentences be applied to the game itself?
@@devapath8951 if anakin and obi wan fight idk its just a star wars reference
What can work is making ground battles sort of like Men of War but bigger, and space battles like Empire at War. The total war style of battle just won't work. WW1 battles with total war style units has been done with The Great War: Western Front though they might make it work
Yeah but then it won't be... you know... total war. It'd just be a generic Star Wars strategy game that's called Total War but it's not Total War, like Resident Evil 8 or Village, which have shit to do with the other titles
@@goncalves4269 re7 and 8 has pretty much nothing to do with the previous re games but especially 7 is scary as hell and a good game. But even though I might be the biggest star wars fan around with hunderds of hours in EaW I'd much prefer a good medieval 3 over a star wars total war but let's face it: As sad it is the total war formula won't work with star wars or anything newer than WW2
I'm unsure how to feel about this, I do enjoy Star Wars but with the current how TW is played I just dont really see how Star Wars can work. I would probably feel better if it was made by CoH dev's or MoW Style of game play with smaller combat groups taking and holding points or in the style of Halo Wars or Empire at War.
I dont know how they will make it feel like TW when there are only a small amount of faction/groups on the campaign map and will they still make it a turn based system/ real time or turn based with all actions taking place at the same time?
There are too many unknowns and differences that Star Wars can bring for TW, Will it feel too different for TW style that we have grown to enjoy? How and If we will get Naval/Space battles?
(I spent at least 20 minutes typing all this and i'm pretty sure that even with grammar-checking etc through it twice i screwed up somewhere but i'm not sure where i did)
There is a mod for Medieval 2 called "Divide And Conquer" (currently in its "V5" ) that takes place roughly around the war of the ring in LOTR.
Now, there is also "Third Age Total War" which is the OG LOTR mod for Medieval 2... but it hasn't been updated for over a decade (i think) and thus does not have as much content as one might expect. TATW does have a literal campaign for the war of the ring where you play as the Fellowship itself and get to experience battles from the books/movies such as the battle of the Pelennor fields ( i won't spoil more than that though).TATW only has like 10-15 factions though (ish, i cannot guarantee that there is more than 10)
Meanwhile, Divide and Conquer has a ton of factions (more than 20 at least) , thus also tons of units and to an extent also a bunch of scripted events, such as being able to reform/remake Arnor or the Reunited Kingdom as the Northern Dunedain (a faction in DAC) ... but again, i do not want to spoil too much lol. IMPORTANT: This mod does have a ton of fan made content including a black numenorean faction that starts as a horde around Umbar... so the mod isn't 100% faithful to tolkien canon, but it's still majority canon-friendly. :)
TATW has something similar to this as you can at least form Arnor in that mod (maybe RK too, but idk for sure).
My point with this essay being that a Middle Earth Total War / Total war set in the third age of LOTR/ Middle Earth already exists which is something i doubt even CA could do better than these modders already have.
Now, there is a 4th age mod for Rome 1(it is basically almost entirely fan-made stuff tho, but with as much as possible from actual Tolkien canon included as far as i know). EDIT: 4th age mod: Fourth Age: Total War . There is a youtuber/maybe even dev of the mod called 'Count MRVHS' that i recommend for those interested in this mod.
In addition, there is a 2nd age mod for Medieval 2 but i haven't seen anything on that one for at least 2-3 years- EDIT: 2nd age mod is called "DCI Last Alliance"
And finally, there is a 1st age mod currently in development (no properly functional campaign but they do have skirmish more or less set up) which is called 'Silmarillion total war'. I forgot which creator/YTber usually posts skirmish replays on STW but it's something along the lines of 'monster' so if you search 'Silmarillion total war monster' / 'Monster Silmarillion total war' or something like that... you should find him with ease, as he could serve as an introduction to STW to some extent (at least for the unit rosters.
And honorable mention, there are 3 DAC / LOTR mods creators i recommend
- Ligizd (seemingly borderline retired unfortunately- or something happened IRL, idk. Crap ton of content to watch.)
- Izzy (basically on break/ quit / retired... one of the three, but there is a crap ton of letsplays from this man.)
- Augimund (more of a 'i impose restrictions on myself to make a difficult mod even harder' creator but some might enjoy this content aswell)
To those who read this whole thing, you are legends.
Someone is updating the original Third Age mod. Or at least, continuing the original intent.
OMG, me as a great fan of SW, spect that no way it’ll be a SW total war, please NO! Enough with Disney SW at all, I would prefer an Empires 2 or Medieval 3!
@@Keyt-z6g really, it could be good, the unique SW Disney-age really good was Rogue One, at least one good, so we have a less than 10% chance? Idk…
It seems like CA is in trouble.They're trying to get the most profit with the least effort, which isn't good for making quality video games. Honestly, I don't think this studio has the skill or the money to make a good Total War game anymore.
Time to say goodbye! If its true.
I hope it's Based on the prequels and not on the current Disney shit show .
if they can make battle of naboo and battle of endor like correctly we would really have a decent star wars total war game...
May the thread be with you
The Phantom Menace featured a battle that was pretty total war-sy, and it was kindof dumb.
I think dune would work better
Why making a star wars total war would just be reinventing the wheel.
Reinventing which wheel? And why?
Personally, I feel they should have the era focused on in this Total War be the Old Republic; perhaps High Republic. While the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War eras are what started the whole franchise, there are ALOT of mediums where those stories are the focus, or touched upon. May be time for a new feel.
I would also be happy with starting out in the Clone Wars era, for familiarity, but expanding to other eras as well; Mandalorian Wars, Sith Wars. Could be a nice way for Disney to also start making some things canon again.
To be completely honest with you I just don't see this working out in the total war formula but I can see CA doing something like they did with Halo wars 2. Shoot when they pitched the idea of halo wars 3 to Microsoft they wanted to include space battles
CA heard us say we wanted Empire 2 and thought we meant Empire at War 2
I think at least some factions are gonna play like Nakai the Wanderer. Let's be honest here, Darth Vader is not gonna be administrating any planets. He's gonna put loyal stormtrooper garrisons in charge of captured planets, and move around with the Executor as his headquarters.
i think in general if you want a good star wars game just look up one of the older games with a modding scene. for instance the giant update mod for X-wing Alliance/Tie-fighter is miles better than star war squadrons
Star Wars is cool and all but man...Empire 2? World War 1? Medieval 3? Hell, Rome 3? SOMETHING?!
World war 1 was in the leaks and should be the closest game
Why dont they make Medieval 2, Empire and Napoleon total war Remake, Wouldnt it be big hype in strategy universe :D?
Oh boy, they better get the space combat right because ppl WILL be comparing it to Empire at War
They will lose mods for Empire at war IS so good they even Made ground Combat more exiciting which already was great in my opinion for the time
The Total War community is so negative all the time.
I am looking forward to this, and even more so to a historical WW1 Total War game.
No wonder, we've been fed Warhammer or sht for 10 years...
I would like to see more combination of space battle with ground battle, it would be probably hard to do both at the same time, but they could use the timer to determine at what time the battleship was able to bombard troops on the ground if the landing was before the space battle was won, like lets say your battleship or carriers lived until certain minute and had certain amount of amunition or fighters in excess, and those can be used in the ground battle :D , probably the most used would be if we talk about Rebels against the Empire, where space battle would be about giving time to the ground forces to complete their capture or task they needed to fulfill
Not a huge fan of the idea tbf.
Essentially a Star Wars Total War will not be a Total War game, but a Star Wars game by the team of Total War.
The IP is actually quite limited in factions (like, 4? max? maybe some additional internal strife mechanics to have emergent factions?) but quite large in territorial scope, a whole Galaxy...
I could envision it being a fleet-focused title, that is a hybrid of WarNo and Ultimate Admiral. i.e. not quite base-building RTS, but assigning land units to ships/fleets and some sort of battlegroup system to assign those units to landing divisions, boarding parties and garrisons. And the companies/battallions of said battlegroups then being controllable in real-time battles.
And there are ideas unconsidered, like with the size of the space ships: a space ship battle can be real-time, but one could also make that the turn-based campaign system where attacks get a choice of combat styles between fighter duels, boarding action or broadside bombardment. 2 of which are Real Time battles with units (fighter duels and boarding).
Something that could be done with 40K too...
If I think positively about it, it basically comes down to how fun and practical it could be to expand the tiers of conflict of this style of game with multiple map-levels: Galaxy (turn-based, fleet movement), Star-System (turn-based, ship movement) and Planet/Ship (real-time, unit movement). Leaning into the idea that Space Going Warships in SW and 40K are the size of continents, rather than just flying aircraft carriers/battle cruisers.
Empire II would be my preference still ;)
They’re only doing this because Star Wars has a big fanbase. Due to CA messing up on a “historical base game” “called Pharaoh” failed launch which costed them a substantial amount of money loss. They are now then having to go find a bigger fanbase to make up for the losses. So a historical game will have to come later in years to come. As this Star Wars will be focused on a 1, 2, 3, and probably even 4th game series. Like what Warhammer is today for them. They’re playing a risky game into creating this/these series. If this is a success for them. They’ll either keep going with the same mechanics for whatever historical game to come. For example… TW TROY with TW Warhammer mechanics
Total War's very idea doesnt fit to any science fiction realm. Total War excells in medieval or ancient or maybe modern, but early modern warfare. I dont see this comming. And Im not really waiting for game that will feel 2d (even if it will pretend being 3d) and will be kind of medieval science fiction... I guess there are already really good games with realistic space warfare, like for example Nebulous... or even older Homeworlds. These games show how it should be done. Homeworld 3 failed by not adding anything interesting to this core and by being boring. So what will Star Wars deliver?
Not to mention that Star Wars universe is bit stupid. If we stick to the lore we have single Xwings annihilating full squadroons of Ties. Or we have Millenium Falcon easily doing whatever Han Solo wants to do no matter how strong enemy is. And we have rebel capital ships known for... well... looking interesting, but not having much sense in any battle. And we have star destroyers or super star destroyers much more powerfull than anything rebel has. Star Wars cant be balanced and remain Star Wars.
If it is clone wars there needs to be an order 66 mechanic
It will be more worthwhile if it has: Galactic grand strat map like in EaW and to a degree like with Stellaris.
-Space combat like in Homeworld.
-Ground combat like in Close Combat or Deserts of Kharak.
-MODDABILITY! Modders need to be allowed to make mods not just set in the Star Wars IP.
It’s not going to happen.
1. They just let a bunch of ch of people go. Where will the resources for this come from.
2. Space Total war is going to be challenging but if they are going to do it it’s going to be 40k and GW doesn’t like competition.
I estimate the chances for a Star Wars Total War in the next 20 years between 0,25 - 0,5 %.
Bro we’re not going to get a new total war Star Wars game in 2-3 years lmao at the very least the next total war game will be 3 years away. Star Wars which unless they’ve been working on this already for a 1-2 years would prob have a 5 year development time period.
They can't even fix the games they already have made and now they are 'innovating'? I don't think this is gonna go well.
They don't even bring back old mechanics into the new games... Now they are gonna (probably) make fully new ones? Oof
We need Company of Heroes/ Dawn of War 1 dynamic cover systems. Unit AI needs to prioritize hiding behind crap and laying down suppressive fire.
They have very limited experience here....I forsee this being a disaster.
Current CA and the current video engine Warscape need to change a lot in order to do a good SW TW. Meanwhile we have SW Rebellion aka Supremacy and fantastic mods to Sins of a Solar Empire (yeah, I don't like EaW that much because of the small space battles)
Really hoping they don't do this, I'll never buy a TW game again. (Haven't purchased anything since WH3). If anything, I'll purchase the Star Wars Total War just to leave it a negative review, and immediately refund it, lol.
I cannot see this happening without a new engine. The problem is that CA has been consistently dumbing down its games for more than a decade. This could be magnificent but in reality will probably be arcadey AF.
Srly put your Star Wars Total Bullshit to... somewhere. U guys are making me mad for being excited for such non-sense. Looks like mammothrepts are gonna get what they want... again.
You can't ignore Lord of the rings mods are all successful through different games and you just refuse to create one and milk the hell out of it...... Star wars gonna be insane too and im looking forward to. General Grevious with a droid army is dope af
while i love historical total war games but i feel like a star wars RTS game would be so much fun as i love star wars: empire at war but it is not as big or good as total war and i feel like a mix of these 2 would be amazing
Disney wars and current year CA "total war" is like a double negative. But not of the multiplying variant that will make a positives result in the end.
I disagree, i don't think CA has the tech, nor skill to do this. Maybe thirteen years ago i'd say they lack the tech but they have the skill. That has changed.
I'd rather a sequel to star wars empire at war
I’m clearly not looking forward to this game, but if it can bring a new engine and overall better quality I’m all for it.
Very simple, if there’s no space ships then I’m not going to buy it and I think most people will feel like that
It’s going to be awful. Shame about WW1 news, the only interesting candidate on this line up for me