i was told of the the trans allegory afterwards. i honestly had connected with it by way of "im not where I'm supposed to be and what if it's too late". what i mean to say, even tho there is a clear intent, I think many people can understand or even relate. truly haunting on an existential level I haven't experienced since A Ghost Story.
I had connected with the story on through the idea of escapism. Being an awkward kid, I'd think about fiction more than actual people. I had a fictional alter ego that I would draw. Who was cooler, more powerful, and more important than I was. I've had friends that I would literally only talk to about fandom stuff with. I've even had the thought of "What if this show is real and I need to find my way out of this fake one so I can meet my real friends?" Also, the idea that normal life can be monotonus, tough, and isolating in comparison to fiction. And that dealing with normal life every day can be a struggle. That It's tempting to just jump back into a fictional world to escape it. That's my interpretation and angle that connected with me, at least. Side note: This movie reminded me of "They look like people" which was also really good.
The strangest thing to me that came with watching the movie was my reaction afterwards. Not in anything of the movie itself, but in that I had this desire to talk about it to others. It's probably the closest I'd ever get to a 'King in Yellow' experience. It was so good
Having only recently discovered that I’m Ace & Autistic within the last few years, just hearing you guys discuss some of the themes and images of the film really appeals to me. The sense of feeling misplaced and confused but also lost on how you’re supposed to fit was present all throughout my teen years and has even bled a little into my 20s. Plus only having half the support in terms of family hits pretty close to home as well. On another note, #PinkOpaque sounds like something I probably would have come across during my teens and gotten slightly obsessed over in terms of story.
A friend called me in tears after watching this, so we watched it together... I bawled. They started a gender journey THAT DAY. I felt the ending was bleak. They felt there was hope... I want there to be hope. It reminded me of coming out as bi in high school in the 90s, but it also reminded me that I was undignosed with Bipolar and Generalized Anxiety disorder for decades! I knew something was wrong, but not how to say it. I love this movie.
I feel you so much on this it’s painful. I also went to HS in the 90s in Ohio and always knew something was wrong and needed something. Back then my parents and doctor said the same thing “you’re not depressed you just need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps!” I could not get a diagnosis, help and medication until 2020 when I had to move back to Ohio from NYC after my 15 year relationship ended and I couldn’t get work bc of Covid. For years I beat myself up like “yeah why aren’t I stronger, why can’t I pull myself up.” And when I moved back my dad was like “see told you NYC wouldn’t work out with your worthless degree. Every decision you made in your life has been wrong. Should have listened to us and got a practical job like your sisters.” Thanks dad wonder why I was diagnosed with clinical depression lol. And every time they want to talk to me it’s like I’m an alien “now, this isn’t a depression thing but…” like I’m going to break down every time they want to talk. I should be used to this but family drama never goes away. Hopefully one day we will get along. I don’t want to live the Mike + The Mechanics song “The Living Years.”
#PinkOpaque. If there is a possible sequel to this film in the works then I'm left wondering if the explicit mentioning of "Season Six," by one of the main characters is a tip off to where that movie might go. When I first saw Buffy: Season Six as it initially aired years ago I wasn't that engaged by it. Going back to it years later though, it became one of my favorite seasons.
Huh, I read it as much more tragic, but your interpretation actually makes a lot of sense. I need to rewatch the movie sometime and look out for the parallels. I'm not trans, but I am queer and the idea of Owen staying in the closet that's literally killing her... the idea still hurts when I think about it. Made me sad for the entire evening and now still when I remember it. #pinkopaque - also really love that combination of words a lot.
+PinkOpaque Not so much Buffy but very much Charmed and Sabrina the Teenage Witch were pretty much my introduction to witchy stuff and it not being all evil old crones and junk.
#pinkopaque I was literally going to ask Jack if you two saw this yet on the stream last night, my favorite film of the year so far. Me and my friend both want to get the ghost tattoos now 🏳️🌈
Good job with trying to represent the trans experience; just a quick tip: the thing you mixed up there is you mentioned “body dysmorphia” instead of “Gender dysphoria”, that’s the term that’s commonly mentioned in the trans community. completely different things. I totally understand how those are similar, though. 😂
might feel heavy handed for you but a shocking amount of people completely missed it. never underestimate a general audience's ability to miss a message about a marginalized group
#pinkopaque i was told this film was about nostalgia and looking for a missing person, but I figured out the trans metafor watching it. The loneliness and disfunctional families were hard to bear, so I will not watch it again. Not a horror, though.
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i was told of the the trans allegory afterwards. i honestly had connected with it by way of "im not where I'm supposed to be and what if it's too late". what i mean to say, even tho there is a clear intent, I think many people can understand or even relate. truly haunting on an existential level I haven't experienced since A Ghost Story.
I had connected with the story on through the idea of escapism.
Being an awkward kid, I'd think about fiction more than actual people. I had a fictional alter ego that I would draw. Who was cooler, more powerful, and more important than I was.
I've had friends that I would literally only talk to about fandom stuff with. I've even had the thought of "What if this show is real and I need to find my way out of this fake one so I can meet my real friends?"
Also, the idea that normal life can be monotonus, tough, and isolating in comparison to fiction. And that dealing with normal life every day can be a struggle. That It's tempting to just jump back into a fictional world to escape it.
That's my interpretation and angle that connected with me, at least.
Side note: This movie reminded me of "They look like people" which was also really good.
The strangest thing to me that came with watching the movie was my reaction afterwards. Not in anything of the movie itself, but in that I had this desire to talk about it to others. It's probably the closest I'd ever get to a 'King in Yellow' experience. It was so good
Having only recently discovered that I’m Ace & Autistic within the last few years, just hearing you guys discuss some of the themes and images of the film really appeals to me. The sense of feeling misplaced and confused but also lost on how you’re supposed to fit was present all throughout my teen years and has even bled a little into my 20s. Plus only having half the support in terms of family hits pretty close to home as well.
On another note, #PinkOpaque sounds like something I probably would have come across during my teens and gotten slightly obsessed over in terms of story.
I really liked the directors previous movie We're All Going to the World Fair, so will check out.
A friend called me in tears after watching this, so we watched it together... I bawled. They started a gender journey THAT DAY. I felt the ending was bleak. They felt there was hope... I want there to be hope. It reminded me of coming out as bi in high school in the 90s, but it also reminded me that I was undignosed with Bipolar and Generalized Anxiety disorder for decades! I knew something was wrong, but not how to say it. I love this movie.
I feel you so much on this it’s painful. I also went to HS in the 90s in Ohio and always knew something was wrong and needed something. Back then my parents and doctor said the same thing “you’re not depressed you just need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps!”
I could not get a diagnosis, help and medication until 2020 when I had to move back to Ohio from NYC after my 15 year relationship ended and I couldn’t get work bc of Covid. For years I beat myself up like “yeah why aren’t I stronger, why can’t I pull myself up.” And when I moved back my dad was like “see told you NYC wouldn’t work out with your worthless degree. Every decision you made in your life has been wrong. Should have listened to us and got a practical job like your sisters.”
Thanks dad wonder why I was diagnosed with clinical depression lol. And every time they want to talk to me it’s like I’m an alien “now, this isn’t a depression thing but…” like I’m going to break down every time they want to talk. I should be used to this but family drama never goes away. Hopefully one day we will get along. I don’t want to live the Mike + The Mechanics song “The Living Years.”
this doesn't sound up my alley (don't really like melancholic movies) but I'm glad it exists :) #pinkopaque
We're All Going to the World's Fair is more of a Creepypasta/Analog Horror movie. I'm interested in seeing I Saw the TV Glow. #pinkopaque
That was a great discussion.
#PinkOpaque. If there is a possible sequel to this film in the works then I'm left wondering if the explicit mentioning of "Season Six," by one of the main characters is a tip off to where that movie might go. When I first saw Buffy: Season Six as it initially aired years ago I wasn't that engaged by it. Going back to it years later though, it became one of my favorite seasons.
I felt like this movie is just a better version of We're All Going to The World's Fair by the same director.
Huh, I read it as much more tragic, but your interpretation actually makes a lot of sense. I need to rewatch the movie sometime and look out for the parallels.
I'm not trans, but I am queer and the idea of Owen staying in the closet that's literally killing her... the idea still hurts when I think about it. Made me sad for the entire evening and now still when I remember it.
#pinkopaque - also really love that combination of words a lot.
I loved Eerie, Indiana but no one around me seems to remember it😅.
I adored that show as a kid. It was my favorite of the Goosebumps, Are You Afraid of the Dark? Era.
So "Todd & the Book of Pure Evil" is basically #pinkopaque for metalheads?
Yes
I personally very much read the ending as a tragedy, as a trans person. In a way that is a call to action and a warning, but deeply sad. I wept.
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Not so much Buffy but very much Charmed and Sabrina the Teenage Witch were pretty much my introduction to witchy stuff and it not being all evil old crones and junk.
#pinkopaque I was literally going to ask Jack if you two saw this yet on the stream last night, my favorite film of the year so far. Me and my friend both want to get the ghost tattoos now 🏳️🌈
Good job with trying to represent the trans experience; just a quick tip: the thing you mixed up there is you mentioned “body dysmorphia” instead of “Gender dysphoria”, that’s the term that’s commonly mentioned in the trans community. completely different things. I totally understand how those are similar, though. 😂
Thank you for the correction.
I’ve been waiting for this one
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#PinkOpaque I definitely want to check the movie out
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That ending got stuck with me for days.
This movie was alright, but the allegory was a little heavy handed for me. I mean, I don’t mind the message but I felt like it was yelling at me. 😂😂
might feel heavy handed for you but a shocking amount of people completely missed it. never underestimate a general audience's ability to miss a message about a marginalized group
@@jareds2619 I like to think I’m intelligent but I did read an article about the filmmaker before I watched it so maybe that clued me in 😂
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So the movie ends with the closeted character getting corrective surgery and going on their way to be their true self. Beautiful. #PinkOpaque
That's a great way of putting it!
#pinkopaque i was told this film was about nostalgia and looking for a missing person, but I figured out the trans metafor watching it. The loneliness and disfunctional families were hard to bear, so I will not watch it again. Not a horror, though.
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