Banshee Review, Kings Island Bolliger & Mabillard Inverted Coaster | World's Worst B&M Invert?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Banshee at Kings Island is the longest and fastest inverted coaster built by Bolliger & Mabillard. This invert features a unique layout with seven giant inversions and a brilliant use of terrain. That sounds good on paper, but I think Banshee is the worst B&M invert because of how it runs today. Find out why in this review!
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I'd like to note that this review was filmed after my 2020 rides. My rides that have taken place since have been much smoother and enjoyable.
Good cause I was about to say...
I visit this park 2-3 times a year... literally NEVER had a rough ride, ever. In fact this is generally way smoother than the other invert in ohio, raptor at cedar point. Never even heard of this being a rough coaster from anyone i know. Very weird hearing that others have had consistent rough rides and rate it so low.
I think it's train related.
Hey ride the beast LOL
And youll find out what “rough” on a coaster means
I almost hit my head on my cousin ridding it
@@marvffin1677 well of course, it’s an old wooden coaster dumbo
@@brucegibson1813 why are you so sensitive. Plus this comment was 1 ago legit move on
This is a very polarizing invert. Some people love it and some people hate it. It depends on who you are!
It depends how its running to me.
I love the ride but a little rattle
Personally I’ve ridden on every train and the rattle doesn’t bother me, so I’d say it depends on preference too
It’s because it’s more akin to one of their fliers or wingriders than their typical inverts. They tried to do something different
Restraints suck, great ride
Seeing some old footage of Son of Beast just made me wonder of what RMC could have done with such a massive structure...
The crappy RCCA structure would have collapsed on the first test run 😂
It could have been an elite ride.
Probably not much, considering many of SOB's problems stemmed directly from cost saving measures related to limiting the number of concrete footers in high stress areas. Reusing footers is where RMC makeovers save millions. With RMC Ibox coasters featuring lots of negative Gs which = tension on the foundation, that limitation would probably be even more apparent
RMC sob would be great, but the structure kinda was the cause of all of SOB’s problems
I love the frequency of your videos. I feel like there’s always something new to watch!
Thanks!
IKR
Interesting, I always love seeing just how different everyone’s opinions are of this roller coaster. I think it’s an amazing ride and super fun, but I can see if some people are more into non stop intensity it wouldn’t be everyone’s favorite
I don't mind rides that aren't super forceful. When comfort becomes an issue, I take issue.
Hahaha I literally posted my new video 2 1/2 hours ago called “This is Why Banshee is the Best B&M Invert.” I love this ride! The rattle isn’t bad at all.
Fr I never had a problem with this ride
Smooth rides on Banshee makes it a mid tier invert.
@@CanobieCoaster I just think that with no pre-drop, so many massive inversions, and that insane in-line twist, it’s so much more unique and exhilarating compared to other inverts.
@@CanobieCoaster I think I only rode it in the smooth blue train bc I had great
rides on it. My mom rode after me and thought it was rough so that could be it.
I grew up riding mean streak....so riding Banshee was butter smooth for me lol...I don't understand what rattle or shakiness people are talking about....I rode at probably 4x so far and it's a great coaster
A lot is smoother than Mean Streak.
Banshee is without a doubt starting to get rough. It was glass smooth at first. Ultimately the trains are directly at fault and not the track
Banshee is great, especially in the front row. The first drop in the back row is one of my favorite first drops! I never notice the B&M rattle on Banshee.
Some trains are fine.
The first drop in the back left is the greatest drop on an inverted coaster period. You actually get a stomach drop
I have never had a rough ride on Banshee. This is my first year riding it. I’ve ridden it in the front, back, middle, I’ve ridden on all the trains. I haven’t felt anything.
@@frannie1815 this is just bitching to bitch lol
@theninthheart4736 nothing like looking at the back on someone's head what an experience.
I think the roughness is because of the ground, KI always had a problem with B&M rattles because apparently, the ground isn't stiff enough, I think this same issue also contributed to Son of Beast's nasty ride.
Has this been confirmed the ground is different in some way?
@@CanobieCoaster I think Coaster Studios mentioned it in his Orion review. He gave a better explanation than I did
This is actually my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu. I can't say i've had a bad run on it.
Even a smooth ride is a mid tier invert for me.
I really don’t think the rattle on Banshee is nearly as bad as some people claim it to be. The pretzel element is also a lot more forceful than I think you gave it credit for.
It depends on the day and train.
@@CanobieCoaster nonsense
I think the problem is Kings Island's ground. All the the B&M's there have issues with a rattle. It's strange for sure
I'd say that is EXACTLY the issue! I've done commercial construction in Mason, and every site I've been on in Mason has terrible ground. In fact I heard one guy tell me on one of his sites they had to sink pilings into the ground to stabilize the structure due to how soft/unstable the ground is. But then again Im sure this isn't an issue just isolated to Mason. Mt. Adams in Cincinnati constantly has landslides.
Orion tracked smoothly to me.
@@CanobieCoaster it’s brand new
The rattle on diamondback is absolutely comical
@@CanobieCoaster i only got one ride on Orion so, grain of salt, but i think it's going to rattle too, and pretty quick. It didn't feel as glass smooth as Leviathan to me and i rode it in its first month.
My favourite coaster, Nitro, is a victim of the B&M rattle 😔 One day, I'd like Six Flags to retrack it
The only shaky part for me with Nitro is the first drop pullout.
I thought the rattle might have been because of the dirt at KI. I've heard some that have said that Orion has a slight rattle when it's literally brand new. I also have heard of Diamondback's rattle also, so I don't think the trains are the biggest problem.
Orion was smooth for me last year.
The vest restraints really staple you to the seat and you feel every imperfection of the coaster. It has been running very well this year, signed a long time local.
I agree it ran well in 2021.
I still have yet to ride a rough B&M! I think a lot of people like to complain about B&M’s coasters having roughness hence why B&M get hate- which is why I think they are underrated! Likewise this makes me think Banshee is another example of this...
(I’ve ridden X-Flight which people claim to be bouncy yet it’s butter smooth)
Most are fine.
I love Banshee. I especially think the pretzel knot is so cool; in an industry that always uses the same cookie cutter loops and corkscrews and cobra rolls ad nauseam! I haven't ridden Banshee since 2015 though, so it's a shame to hear about the rattle trains.
My smooth ride in 2020 was great but most beat me up.
Banshee is my fourth favorite coaster of all time. I love it so much.
Glad you like it!
1:04 “It always seems strange that the park didn’t have a full circut inverted coaster” *shows and off ride shoot of The Bat*
That's not an inverted coaster, it is a suspended coaster.
I view that one as suspended. I agree it hangs below the track.
The gp can't tell the difference tho. Just because you view it as this or that as an enthusiast that runs a channel on coasters.... Doesn't mean they were missing this before. ;) Good vid tho
I was just at kings island this past Labor Day and I thought banshee is probably the most intense invert I’ve ridden and that includes a pretty solid list. I loved it. Very smooth ride
I've heard it's running smooth this year.
I've never felt any rattle on a B&M except a little while going down Diamondbacks first drop- and it's never bothered me or taken away from the experience at all. I love Banshee, not familiar with the rattle you mention- hope you get better rides on it next time!
It rode well in 2021.
I was at the TPR Banshee Bash the year this opened. Even that early in it’s life, the bash was dominated with conversations of how bad a brand new invert was rattling. Damn shame too, layout it great.
I agree the layout is awesome. It ran smoother for me in 2021 than 2020.
The 3rd seat in each row is butter smooth. Sit there, and it’s fantastic.
Interesting!
I'll have to give that a try
For whatever reason, I really feel like kings island is such a polarizing park and people judge the rides more because of that. In no way is banshee rough. Is it smooth? Of course not, but rough? No. The worst invert? Absolutely not. I respect the opinions of others, I just don’t agree at all and think people really judge kings island over harshly.
Personally, I have ridden 3 inverts, Banshee, Afterburn at Carowinds and Raptor. I consider Banshee to be the best just barely over raptor and substantially over Afterburn.
Banshee when smooth is a mid tier invert.
It's rough to me. I wouldn't discount people's opinion just because the park is polarizing. I'll genuinely get a headache if i ride it more than once. And it's not some kind of bias against the park because Diamondback doesn't have that problem and it's a great ride. Mystic Timbers is my favorite woodie I've ever ridden. But Banshee is just a rough ride
Yeah I heard about banshee and Diamondback both have a rattle. Also thanks your channel is helping me update my list of things to ride and where to sit
Diamondback shakes at the base of the drop but that doesn't ruin the ride.
@@CanobieCoaster I’m not saying it does just saying what I heard
I probably had the worst experience on this ride. I only got 1 ride in 2020, and I don’t remember which train it was. I do know that I was stuck with row 5 since the worker didn’t accept my request for the front. As a result, it’s my 2nd worst coaster I’ve ever ridden.
At least the vests prevent headbanging.
@@CanobieCoaster true, but it still wasn’t a good experience by any means. I desperately need the front row of the blue train to get a better experience
Unfortunately I had a real rough ride yeah banshee is rough but my ride was much rougher then you would think. It was rough like the Boss at Six Flags st louis! I find the Batman clones to be better then Banshee
Banshee has a good layout
I don't find Banshee to be smooth but I also didn't think the rattle was terrible. I thought Diamondback's rattle was worse. The rattle is enough to knock Banshee down to my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu. Banshee has my favorite layout for an invert, but that's just my preference. I know not everyone would agree.
I also love the vest restraints. I have had many issues with headbanging on B&M inverts in the past, so they were one-and-dones for me back then, except Montu. I have since gotten better at avoiding headbanging with B&Ms hard OTSR, so I can enjoy the others now as well, but it took some practice.
I don't mind the rattle on Diamondback since it's only in a few valleys for a second. Banshee in a bad train rattles for a large chunk of the ride.
The B&M’s at Kings Island are the ones with the rattle but every other B&M does not have a rattle and if they ever did it might be the train wheels that might need to be replaced but most B&M’s are very smooth
I agree most B&Ms are very smooth.
Dam worst B&M invert I defently dont think that but i respect your opinion. I'm acually fine with rattles they dont bother me and banshee has great elements so yea 2nd best invert in my opinion after Montu
When smooth, it's a mid tier invert.
I don’t dislike Banshee, but I prefer the older, snappier B&Ms like Raptor or Kumba. Sometimes Banshee’s positive forces are too much for me and in the middle of the pretzel knot, I’m ready for the ride to be over. I rode it twice on opening day 2021 and it wasn’t as rough as it had been in 2020.
I do enjoy Banshee's layout.
Y'all are DRAMA about the "rattle". You make it sound like a Vacoma SLC.
My rides since I have made this review have all been pleasant.
This whole comment section is made up of angry KI fanboys lol. I've been going to KI for 5 years now, and every single time I get at least one unimaginably rough ride on banshee. As in, shaking my teeth out of my skull rough. I'm glad you have the courage to voice your honest opinion, thoosies just love KI/CP way too much.
My home park is Kentucky Kingdom, and I can say with 100% confidence that apart from the thigh crushing, T3 was smoother than Banshee. And it's not even close.
I got better rides in 2021, but the ones in 2020 were not ideal.
If the inversions had more whip it seems like b and m is using different heart lining? Seems a bit less whipping compared to other inverts
Yes, but the Gs in the valleys are strong still.
I don't see this topping Montu for me when I get to ride in June, but damn is that a top 5 color scheme.
Montu is one of the best inverts.
Man Banshee disappointed this weekend. Such a bad rattle this year.
That stinks it's not riding well this year.
The rattle can be quite bad 😕 Is the service looking road behind Banshee/Son of Beast where the animal section was in the 70s?
It ran better in 2021 for me.
Rode Banshee for the first time wednesday before the incident occurred. I absolutely loved it, I didn’t experience a rattle, I rode on the teal train.
Glad it was running smooth and it was tragic what happened.
@@CanobieCoaster it was unbelievable that i had rode it before it shut down for a couple days
I've ridden Banshee a lot since this video (most recently in August 2022) and haven't noticed a rattle. Maybe they fixed it? This is my favorite U.S. B&M Invert, ahead of Montu, Afterburn, and Talon. Banshee even cracks my top 20 coasters overall. Love the experience it provides: 3 trains, friendly staff, quick dispatches, long ride, awesome first drop, nice scenery, and I can marathon it vs. I'm usually done after 2 rides on other B&M inverts.
The trains on Banshee feel well designed - like B&M learned from past mistakes and listened to feedback. Usually if you sit anywhere but the front row on a B&M invert, your view is the support of the seat in front of you - not ideal, so the best seat by far is always the front row. But Banshee trains have 2 supports per row instead of 4, so you get a decent view in any row. I still prefer the front row on Banshee, but barely, as the back row is more intense but without the substantial "view" penalty like on other B&M inverts.
My only complaint with Banshee is they still have a bunch of unused Son of Beast land. Add a B&M Wing in there Kings Island!
My 2021 rides were smooth.
Have you read it this year? I dont know what they did, but although i might have agreed with you last year, this year the few rides i got on it were really smooth! It still has a slight rattle but i barely noticed it.
I plan to go back to Kings Island later this year so I hope it runs better!
I usually love inverts, especially the 7 inversion monsters, but this ride is a bit much for me. The valleys are super forceful and the inversions are very drawn out, these combined with the rattle make me pretty dizzy by the end. And it’s not helped by the vest restraints which really don’t belong on inverted coasters.
I do love the layout.
3/4 of of the time this thing just doesn’t do it for me! Dunno why, It’s very temperamental but beautiful to look at.🤌🏽
I do love the layout.
How many trains are there on Banshee? Which colors are all the trains?
3, purple, teal, blue.
I’m glad everyone agrees that this is rubbish
I got better rides in 2021 after publishing this.
I remember going on banshee on the first half. But the second half I didn’t remember a thing except the zero-g roll. Maybe I blacked out I have no idea.
That's strange. It does have some force.
Rode Banshee today at season pass holder preview day. Even rode the teal train. No rattle, no chatter. It was my daughter's first time on it and she said it was so smooth!
It ran much better in 2021 onwards.
The shaking and tight vest restraints ruined it for me. Definitely my least favorite invert
It has a lot of potential if smooth.
I've always found Banshee a little rough. I found it rougher in 2016 than 2017 so I think the theory that it has to do with the trains is likely correct, although I'll also mention the possability of it being the ground it's built on. Son of Beast was built on the same ground so that's the constant.
I got good rides this year.
@@CanobieCoaster The inconsistancy probably has to do with the trains and how they're rebuilt in the offseason (as we know they are). The constant rattle is probably related to the ground the coaster sits on, and that same ground probably contributed to the roughness on Son of Beast too. It's nothing that makes it unridable but let's say I could not do multiple-ride ERT on Banshee without taking 15 minutes between rides.
The restraints are the biggest killer for me. Love Banshee, but I absolutely can not stand those stupid vest restrains!
The vest restraints are fine to me. It's how it tracks.
Maybe I should try other seats to feel the rattle. I'm always in the front. Idk its tied for my favorite ride. I just don't like the tight feeling after the ride waiting to un load.
It seems to be train related.
Guys remember this is an opinion dont get mad
It ran better in my 2021 rides thankfully.
What banshee gets hate bro banshee is awesome one of if not the best invert coaster in my opinion
I got better rides in 2021 thankfully.
I hate being a coaster enthusiast with motion - sensitivity, the rides layout is amazing but I wish B&M fixed the rattle on these things
It was better on my rides after this was filmed.
Ive riden every train just this summer alone and have never felt a rattle in fact its become a family favorite coaster. But thats the cool thing bout coasters each persons experience can be different
I've gotten wildly different rides by year.
My honest opinion of banshee is that kings island could've done better with the design of it. I know son of beast was rough. But you take away a mega 200 foot tall woodie and in its place give it a mild invert. They had so much land available. I think they should've done the world's first hyper invert. That would've been awesome and imagine the layout of it. They had a chance to get another record breaker but instead just got the bare minimum of an invert. It's sad that I consider any other invert over this ride. 2 decades between the most intense and best layout inverts to this. It should be opposite. Not in terms of intensity but on every other level
I like the design of the coaster and hope it can run consistently smooth.
This is my favorite invert I've ridden 😂
The drop is great. I didn't find it rough but there was a slight rattle.
My rating:
1. Banshee
2. Montu
3. Top gun at carrowinds???
4. Alpengeist
5. Silver bullet
6. Batman clone at sfmm
7. Batman clone fiesta texas
8. Batman clone seaworld san antonio
🙂
Raptor was closed during my 3 days last August:(
It rode much better on my 2021 rides thankfully.
I'm curious about your thoughts on Banshee vs Alpengeist. I find that I absolutely love Alpengeist in the front row but everywhere else I really don't like it. I don't find the difference to be quite as dramatic with Banshee between rows but I think they have some similar advantages and disadvantages overall.
Alpengeist's first half is super intense and I find it's smoother more consistently.
I don’t mind the roughness on banshee, but my thighs and the surrounding areas were completely crushed. It completely ruined the ride and that’s honestly really sad, because the layout is one of the best on any invert. Especially when the crew was in no rush for checking restraints and I was stuck on the brakes for 3-4 minutes, practically suffocating.
Sorry to hear that.
I used to consider this ride having a teeny little rattle, like in comparison to diamondbacks rattle that you can hardly notice. I had this same opinion for a while, and I even considered banshee better than Orion. Then, in 2023, I rode it a couple times, and it was ROUGH. I don’t know if I got bad rides mixed with bad luck, but I eventually started passing opportunities to ride it. Now I genuinely prefer invertigo over banshee. I can’t wait to get back to kings island this year and see if it’s smoother again, because I used to love banshee so much.
My 2021 rides (after this was made) were mostly smooth, but that's a shame you got bad rides.
They need to change out the wheels of the trains. That’s probably why the trains got a little rattle.
I would not be surprised if that is an issue.
Great ride, but I couldn’t breath and got my hips destroyed at the end because it tightened on me, horrible restraints. Felt like I was being compressed by a hydraulic press right as the ride started
Ouch!
I went to kings island yesterday. The rattle was loud but I honestly thought it went well with the theme. Because it does kind of sound like a scream
It ran well for me in 2021.
I normally ride inverts once for tge credit then move on as they’re not my cup of tea. But Banahee really wowed me when I finally got to ride it in 2022. It was butter smooth in the back row but also, that layout was great! Definitely the only invert I’d like to revisit.
It rode better in my rides after I made this review.
I think enthusiasts these days are becoming spoiled. Sure, Banshee might not be the smoothest, but it’s a breeze next to those old head-banging, rough Arrow coasters. Imagine being an enthusiast in the days of Arrow loopers, marathoning Viper at SFMM, or some other jank machine. And yet you instantly criticize the ride when your B&M instantly develops a slight rattle? My home park invert (Alpengeist) seems to fall under the same category as Banshee in terms of smoothness, yet I’ve never found it to be rough. A few minor spots of vibrations, but that’s it. And I’ve formulated that conclusion over 60+ rides on it, in all conditions. Maybe Banshee is/was rougher, and caused problems for some people, but still. A small rattle does not ruin the ride.
But that’s just me. You’ll probably have a different opinion, and I respect that
Banshee definitely has smoother transitions compared to the older rides from someone like Arrow. But it's shocking how this one doesn't ride smoothly like the other inverts. The old Arrows don't bother me since my head clears the top of the OSTR.
Somehow this ride lost to Flying Turns at Knoebels for best new 2014 ride. But if that ride wasn't in the poll, which coaster do you think would've won? This or Goliath at Six Flags Great America?
Probably Goliath.
I wonder how this would be if it was built in the 90’s it would definitely be whippy
Probably.
I rode banshee in October 2019 and it was perfectly smooth. I wonder if I lucked out with the train or if they got all the trains running smooth that fall. I hope it's not rough next time I ride.
I got some bad rides in 2019 and 2020, but got a few good ones too
Looks like an amazing ride but the rattle is a major turn off!!
Sadly it's the Achilles heel.
The restraints absolutely ruin it for me. Those vests don't give off the same intensity as a normal OTSR would. It's a shame, Banshee could have been world class.
I don't mind the vests.
Kings Island isn’t far from my house and I ride Banshee all the time. The rattle never bothered me much and it always takes me by surprise when people call it rough. Regardless, it’s still my least favorite invert because the elements are too drawn out to do much for me. I prefer smaller, more compact inverts for the whippy and feet ripping inversions.
2020 was the worst year for it. It was fine in 2021 when I rerode it.
Row 2 this past Sunday was extremely smooth.
@Tyler Lindgren Blue
@Tyler Lindgren I've tried narrowing it down by train but the "rattle" is so inconsistent that I think it has more to do with the weight distribution among the length of the train. Rows 4 and 5 accommodate bigger riders and I believe it's for a reason. Ops should direct larger riders to those rows if possible. Not an engineer or anything just a theory of mine.
I hope it rides better when I go back.
I rode it twice yesterday and it felt like it was going to rattle itself apart. Unsurprisingly it was a walk-on all day. Cedar Fair needs to fix it because it didn’t use to be this way.
It seems so hit or miss.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I can't even re-ride this
It's frustrating since some trains are fine.
I dont feel rattles i feel like im missing somthing or not normal
I enjoyed Banshee over Raptor. I’ve only ever had 1 ride that rattled to the point where I got a headache. Every other time has been very smooth, or had a slight vibration, but nothing bad. It’s one of my favorite B&M coasters!
I usually like this ride.
I love Banshee, don’t understand the hate some enthusiasts throw at it. Other than most so-called coaster enthusiasts hyper analyze every inch of a coaster and criticize the tiniest little bump, shake, or shimmy. Just sit back and enjoy the ride and be happy parks keep building these awesome machines.
My 2020 rides were brutal, but I liked it again in 2021.
Sorry but it's not that bad and IMO doesn't detract from the ride. I've ridden this 100's of times in different rows and trains and have never had a rough ride. It vibrates in the valleys as does many rides, but is butter smooth on 80% of the ride. I just don't get the hate. There's no janky transitions, nothing that slams you, no jackhammering, just a bit of vibration.
If it was just one ride, I'd write it off. But I've had multiple bad rides across multiple visits. Then good ones mixed in too.
I think both the teal train and the blue train look similar in terms of shade, but there are differences. What do you think?
For shade? They're the same.
The restraints SUCK!! The first drop always staples my thighs. If it wasn’t for that I’d like the first half but the second half after the zero G roll is a replay of the first half just not as fun. IDK
I don't mind them.
Banshee is my number 1 B&M Invert, and my number 8 overall. I love high intensity and Banshee delivers. My only issue is the vest restraints, but not much as i just move around as needed.
It rode better for me in 2021.
Imma say this, it definitely isn't the worst invert, if you don't like it yoy obviously don't like forceful coasters
My issue isn't the forces or elements, it's the commonality of rough trains.
This was the first coaster I followed the construction of.. checking those livestreams everyday ☺️
Nice!
Try building it on rct2 what a challenge mine crashed the 12th year in the game it took 3 seasons in the game for any guest to ride they said it was too intense
Oh my!
Banshee crew here… we don’t like you 💙 ride 👏 the 👏 blue 👏 train 👏 if 👏 you 👏 can’t 👏 handle 👏 the 👏 rattle
The crew working the ride is great. I just wish all the trains ran smoothly.
I was at Kings Island 2 months ago and I rode Banshee 4 times my first 3 rides were in the purple train and it seemed very smooth, but when I took my forth ride I was in the blue train and it seemed a little rough but other than that Banshee is my favorite roller coaster at Kings Island next to Orion and Diamondback.
It ran better for me in 2021.
Banshee is easily my least favorite B&M invert I’ve ridden.
It has speed and good elements in a smooth train.
Just rode this yesterday. It was smoother than Diamond back in my opinion. We sat in the back on both
That's good to hear.
Best ride at kings island hands down. I have vertigo and I have ride this several different times and it has no affect on it at all. Wooden coasters seem to have a lot worse affect on it. If given a choice between one coaster to ride through out the day this would be it. Also detected no rattle at all
The bad rattle I described in 2020 was not present in 2021 thankfully.
That's a lie this coaster makes raptor at cedar point seem average and way better than Dorney's talon😂😂❤
I prefer it to those two when Banshee runs smooth.
TBH ,I like Banshee but I really don't like Orion. Orion is crap. they'll need to re-edit that coaster by turning it into an 187 ft tall B&M Mega Coaster with an 198 ft drop with more airtime hills and turns. However it would be neat if they painted the track Magenta and paint Delirium back to its original self.
I really like Orion myself. I love the speed and elements.
@@CanobieCoaster There's nothing wrong with the elements and the speed of the coaster I thought they were well done, it's the Layout is why Orion is crap. That's why they need to re-edit it. To add more airtime ,elements and have plenty of time for more speed. If They're not going to tear more trees down to expand it then they'll need to turn it into an 187 ft tall Mega Coaster with an 198 or 199 ft drop and More 2 or 3 more airtime hills. They're are such things as Mega Coasters by Bollinger & Malbilard.
Rattle has never bothered me. I'm not sure when that became such a thing for enthusiasts, but to each his/her own. Rough, as in headbanging, is a different story lol. My experience on Banshee in 2019 wasn't bad at all, but it just didnt do anything for me. The first drop was great though. I guess I prefer the 90s B&M inverts. They have an intensity that the newer ones don't imo.
I love the layout, but some trains seem to rattle very badly.
B&M rattles can give bad headaches to some people. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it unfortunately does to me. That headache is the worst feeling to have for me. Rough woodies jackhammering don't cause me pain, but a strong B&M rattle does. I wish it didn't.
I never thought Banshee was rough. But very forceless.
I find it moderately forceful and love the layout.
From outside the park the size of this coaster is intimidating wait till you go there it's massive like alpengeist at Busch gardens
It has quite the presence.
Absolutely goofy take. Been riding this since it has been out. Never had a really rough ride on any of the trains...
It ran better in 2021. But I got some rattly rides in specific trains in 2019 and 2020.
So Kings Island builds Son of Beast and after 6 years ends the ride because of the roughness. Then Kings Island builds Banshee and in year 5 the ride begins to be rough. Interesting that’s all.
On another point, what would have happened if Son of Beast could have been saved by RMC with an I-Box treatment? Just curious.
That would've been a crazy RMC.
It feels way too different compared to the other B&M Inverts it feels like a B&M Wing Coaster
well, its the first real 2nd Gen Invert. Trains do a lot and it's focusing more on big, smooth elements with sustained forces rather than the fast-paced, whippy elements of rides like Batman, Montu and Afterburn. Depends on what you like.
I like the speed and elements.
The harness is very comfortable, no head banging or ear banging like Raptor.
I agree the harnesses are better.
This is a 9 outta 10 little rattle on some trains crazy pacing and great layout best invert in Ohio
I like the layout. The rattle I've gotten in the past was very bad.
it's interesting you talk about B&M rattle but seem to rate Riddlers so high in the SFMM ranking video... That's why I hate Riddlers so much.. I must admit last time I rode it was 2008, but the rattle was so awful it actually made me nauseous and gave me a headache.. I found it so unpleasant to ride. What a shame that Banshee is developing the dreaded B&M rattle. It's also interesting that some B&M's stay glass smooth for decades and some develop this problem. I wonder what the variable is.
Riddler has always been smooth for me.
@@CanobieCoaster I am 6ft 4 and I wonder if it has something to do with it.
if you think that banshee is more rough than raptor, i am revoking your enthusiast card
Raptor has a worse moment of headbanging when you enter the brake run, but I find that ride more comfortable. Banshee doesn't have headbanging and tracks smooth, it just vibrates a ton.