Adressing the intakes with the "new" fin at 3:11 - if you costomize the normal M4/M3 with the M carbon exterior package you will also get this fin in the lower sides of the front.
I love it. The grille being so open seems weird, but let's face it, that grille was born weird. Everything else about it though is just the right amount of bespoke to make the whole package seem really cool. I remember the E46 CSL's rear light clusters being slightly different as well, which is a nice touch of theirs to repeat the same trick. Now, if they could make the engine note sound similar to the E46 CSL, then the new CSL would be just perfect.
The kidneys don’t look as bad on this model for some reason. They still should not exist- but it looks better here than it does on the regular m4. The new taillight design is just awesome to see.
Real talk: im starting to like and get used to the grill. Also seen the m4 competition one time irl. It looks really aggressive and crazy good. BMWs look waay better irl. Might be the case with rhe new 7 series too
I think the new 7 series is much better looking, and has a significantly more road presence than the new s class. Saw a new s class today and it looked too ordinary, especially the from the side, didnt look like there was much improvement even from the w221
@@ggmaster86 new s class only looks amazing at the front imo. Side and rear view is too average for an s class. It's still good looking but nothing extraordinary. I think the 7 series is definitely more eye catching
Awesome vid! Just another thing regarding the tail lights. They're actually not LED at all anymore, the tail light is actually lit by lasers! BMW's always been killing it with the tail light tech in the M4 special versions. Back when the M4 GTS was released, it was the first use of OLED, now with the new M4 CSL its the first use of lasers in any tail light. That's innovation right there!
Gawd, the stylists just don't know when to quit! It's as if someone keeps coming in at night after the designers go home and adding more and more lines and details to the finished car.
I'd say the M4 bucktooth kidney grills have grown on my specifically but the M3 just kinda throws me off. It's got all that crazy styling in the front but the sides just look boring and stretched out like something you'd see on an S Class.
There are rumors that BMW is gonna unveil a limited edition of 50 pieces of a 3.0 CSL hommage like the concept from 2016 with a full carbon fiber body based on the M4 in terms of parts and overall size but with a different body design and a huge price tag
You should compare the M4 CSL with the normal M4 WITH Carbon Exterior, it changes the look of the front bumper intakes. I do NOT like the kidney (or "lung") grill spokes of the CSL, I prefer the horizontal lines of the original. Actually the only thing I realy, really, really love about the CSL are the tail lights.
Can you make a video with your thoughts on the ADRO Aero facelift for the g80/82 m3/m4? I think you would like what they did from a car desinger's perspective. :)
Its pretty good for a turd polish. If they want to keep that nose, they really need to refresh the side of the car and change the front lights. I almost feel the front could be improved by adding black trim between and around the lights and grille(mimicking 80s bimmers)
That design is better. Adding those T shapes to the kidneys is not bad. I think the top part of the kidneys can be a little forward than the bottom part giving the "\" shape to make it more aggressive. I will also shorten the kidneys a little.
When I look at the front end, I think of a really dedicated foot fetishist that can comically enlarge its nostrils to the point where they partially cover its mouth so it can smell its prey better. Good luck trying to get that thought out of your head.
I love what you do here, but please the X3 tail lights are gorgeous, they're futuristic and just have that masculine look. Your re-designed version is too smooth and kinda looks like it comes from 2010.
With these new controversial approaches like the M4 grille, whole IX exterior, either BMW has gotten a bit confused about it's design language... Or they are deliberately making us a bit uneasy with those designs, and preparing for something way beautiful and way mesmerizing when we would be expecting it the least... That'd be pretty dope honestly...
Traditionell faster on the German Ring -Nordschleife- , as the expensive F488 GTB or F812; also faster as the whole other Middle-Class in the World. Thats the Order-Tradition, if in a few BMW -Answers with a CSL; so as now with this F82-CSL.
i agree i think big grill has gone over me with it being the new trend for cars so when i see the over sized watermelons in the front im ok with it. I to think it gets made fun of too much.
*The Front and Tail lights are the only Highlight on this car for me!👌 The Kidneys are looking a little bit better than the regular ones on the M4, but still ugly... And for that Price, you can allmost have the far better Porsche 992 GT3...😏😎*
People was really critic with Chris Bangle design in BMW but in the 5 and 3 series I think that was the best design in BMW. To this point only go to worse. With 7 and 6 serie Chris maybe had a bad day…
they shpuldve made the rear light more minimal in size to make the thin light stuff show more boldy when lights are not on. yes the light cover has to be squared off at rear for areodynamics, but no need to have super function over form everything at this point of car, its s stupid silly toy spec of a car might as well be more excelent at the aesthetics.
General proportions and stance of the car are good. However the contours that cloth those proportions are still in the wilderness. There is a very fine line between avant-garde and garrish and BMW continues to find itself on the wrong side of that equation.
Still think its ugly. The shape of the kidneys are growing on me but the shape of the lights and creases are still not working and i would rather have the m340i for its normal looking front end
I think the engine is topping at 550BHP now, the normal competition is 510.😬
Correct! My bad. Thanks for the correction
I just realized my comment sort of took away from your bigger work on this upload😂😂😂, I always like your take on new models.
Imagine the e60 m5 had 507.now the m4 has 510
@@emjay1249 yeah but lack of air from the 5.0L
@@scherpebocht what do you mean with lack of air
I love the new m4 csl and I don’t know why, but the beaver teeth grille looks a lot better. Maybe it’s the graphics inside the grille
i swear, people are criticising it so much but actually it is very good
@@s.rharikrishna1656 The normal 4 Series looks bad.
In M cars it is much better, marketing tactic if you ask me
I love it the more I look at it, just kidding, I hate it in any other color besides black (and only black) and it'll stay that way.
I think it’s worse. Looks like it’s trying to be a gaming PC 😂
Adressing the intakes with the "new" fin at 3:11 - if you costomize the normal M4/M3 with the M carbon exterior package you will also get this fin in the lower sides of the front.
I love it. The grille being so open seems weird, but let's face it, that grille was born weird.
Everything else about it though is just the right amount of bespoke to make the whole package seem really cool. I remember the E46 CSL's rear light clusters being slightly different as well, which is a nice touch of theirs to repeat the same trick.
Now, if they could make the engine note sound similar to the E46 CSL, then the new CSL would be just perfect.
about everything else: i agree
about the engine sound: i don't think it is possible anymore because of regulations
The kidneys don’t look as bad on this model for some reason. They still should not exist- but it looks better here than it does on the regular m4. The new taillight design is just awesome to see.
yeah best lights atm
Real talk: im starting to like and get used to the grill. Also seen the m4 competition one time irl. It looks really aggressive and crazy good. BMWs look waay better irl. Might be the case with rhe new 7 series too
Facts, I wasn’t sure about the grills either till I seen them in person
As with everything people will bitch about new change and eventually get used to it
nope. still ugly.
I think the new 7 series is much better looking, and has a significantly more road presence than the new s class. Saw a new s class today and it looked too ordinary, especially the from the side, didnt look like there was much improvement even from the w221
@@ggmaster86 new s class only looks amazing at the front imo. Side and rear view is too average for an s class. It's still good looking but nothing extraordinary. I think the 7 series is definitely more eye catching
543HP not 443.
CSL looks good, better than the others, and the tail lights are super cool!
I absolutely love it, those taillights & the ducktail just completed the whole thing. It truly looks like a limited edition car.
This is one of the most exotic looking sedan type cars I’ve ever seen. I love it honestly
It's coupe not sedan 😏
@@SnjurCro I know it technically is bc of the 4 doors, but I’d hardly call something this big a coupe ya know?
@@s7robe297 it's a coupe by all means.
@@SnjurCro okay
The rest of the car finally matches the aggressiveness of the grill
Agreed.
Awesome vid! Just another thing regarding the tail lights. They're actually not LED at all anymore, the tail light is actually lit by lasers!
BMW's always been killing it with the tail light tech in the M4 special versions. Back when the M4 GTS was released, it was the first use of OLED, now with the new M4 CSL its the first use of lasers in any tail light. That's innovation right there!
Gawd, the stylists just don't know when to quit! It's as if someone keeps coming in at night after the designers go home and adding more and more lines and details to the finished car.
for me the issue with the m4 has never been the front or rear but whats in between
The rear lights are Laser Lights for them to have this design and high brightness.
gotta love the rear end of the m4csl, that ducktale with those lights.... perfect
I'd say the M4 bucktooth kidney grills have grown on my specifically but the M3 just kinda throws me off. It's got all that crazy styling in the front but the sides just look boring and stretched out like something you'd see on an S Class.
9:41 the tail lights weren't separated like that on the E46 M3 CSL
For the tail lights regulation, BMW use the area below as additional luminous area to satisfy the regulaiton.
The thin tail lights are laser, not LED, pretty cool!
There are rumors that BMW is gonna unveil a limited edition of 50 pieces of a 3.0 CSL hommage like the concept from 2016 with a full carbon fiber body based on the M4 in terms of parts and overall size but with a different body design and a huge price tag
Around 600.-700.000 Euro...🤪😉
Maybe adding the csl bumper, headlight and tail light is going to be a thing to the regular m4 owners
The M4 CSL looks ❤️🔥 pretty spot on!!! It could always be cooler though. It’s missing the Harman Kardon stereo system 🔊. Wish 🤞🏻 it had M xDrive! 🤘🏻
Dude im so happy they changed those rear tail lights the ones on the normal m4 drove me crazier than grill did when it first came out
You should compare the M4 CSL with the normal M4 WITH Carbon Exterior, it changes the look of the front bumper intakes. I do NOT like the kidney (or "lung") grill spokes of the CSL, I prefer the horizontal lines of the original. Actually the only thing I realy, really, really love about the CSL are the tail lights.
CSL, not CLS
@@vladislavdimitrov4646 wow thx, dont know where my head was, with Mercedes?! :O
Just amazing. And it has to be even better irl. Well done BMW. You still know how to do wonderful cars
Can you make a video with your thoughts on the ADRO Aero facelift for the g80/82 m3/m4? I think you would like what they did from a car desinger's perspective. :)
Laser Taillights looks badass
it has 550 horsepower, not 450
grille works with this new design matches the hood lines and overall design
That carbon fiber wing on the lower front intakes can be optioned on the normal M3 and M4 models..
Sick car but definitely way too expensive. Rather get a base 992 GT3 for 180.000€
Its pretty good for a turd polish. If they want to keep that nose, they really need to refresh the side of the car and change the front lights. I almost feel the front could be improved by adding black trim between and around the lights and grille(mimicking 80s bimmers)
I don’t know. These front end designs remind me of late 90’s/early 2000’s Pontiac Grand Prix. Good or bad, I just can’t unsee it now.
The G20 has been a great car. Style is so great on them. My M340i XDrive 2020 is awesome in every way.
They took the 400z route and made 2 designs on the grill have to agree it looks much better than before.
That design is better. Adding those T shapes to the kidneys is not bad. I think the top part of the kidneys can be a little forward than the bottom part giving the "\" shape to make it more aggressive. I will also shorten the kidneys a little.
The slim taillight lines are actually „laser wire“, not led’s, they look spectacular
those are Lung grills now. And I like em.
The regular M4 has the carbon fins as well if you spec them - they basicly look exactly the same.
Still need to make the rear wheels fill more arches. Exactly why the back end of a m3 looks better than a m4.
Are you sure about the 3.6 seconds for 0-60? Because this has 50 more horsepower than the normal competetion and its about 150 kilos lighter
I think you got the specs wrong, you said 443hp, but it's 550hp as far as I know
One of my collegue designed the rear lamp ...
First Time I saw the taillight of this car I literally thought "wow that's cool"
It still has the kidney grille, but it looks much much more appealing and aggressive
The CSL looks way cooler
I think BMW took inspiration from your drawing lines
I thought the heritage bmw logo was an old one that they are using again
When I look at the front end, I think of a really dedicated foot fetishist that can comically enlarge its nostrils to the point where they partially cover its mouth so it can smell its prey better. Good luck trying to get that thought out of your head.
Hahahahah omg yes 🤣
I love what you do here, but please the X3 tail lights are gorgeous, they're futuristic and just have that masculine look. Your re-designed version is too smooth and kinda looks like it comes from 2010.
With these new controversial approaches like the M4 grille, whole IX exterior, either BMW has gotten a bit confused about it's design language... Or they are deliberately making us a bit uneasy with those designs, and preparing for something way beautiful and way mesmerizing when we would be expecting it the least... That'd be pretty dope honestly...
This CSL is so cool
Traditionell faster on the German Ring -Nordschleife- , as the expensive F488 GTB or F812; also faster as the whole other Middle-Class in the World. Thats the Order-Tradition, if in a few BMW -Answers with a CSL; so as now with this F82-CSL.
you guys really seeing the front intake as a rabbit tooth? cause im seeing it as pig nose from angrybird. especially the green one xD
I still prefer Vorsteiner grille..but this is good
After seeing the ducktail, normal M4 looks incomplete, like someone cut a piece off.
It's just good.
But it also reminds me of Supra mk5.
i agree i think big grill has gone over me with it being the new trend for cars so when i see the over sized watermelons in the front im ok with it. I to think it gets made fun of too much.
Man I still can't get over this jumbo grill :/
Just look at the new 2023 3-series facelift, finally some sweet sporty sedans!
I always thought the regular m4 taillights look like a dog with an eye infection
I dont even know why they need things within the kidney grilles. Just have two large holes
Nice video man, hope they apply the same kind of design to the new M2 !
I still don't like the grille, but this csl looks a lot better than the normal m4
*The Front and Tail lights are the only Highlight on this car for me!👌 The Kidneys are looking a little bit better than the regular ones on the M4, but still ugly... And for that Price, you can allmost have the far better Porsche 992 GT3...😏😎*
That’s blue? looks grey to me
Tailights are a killer, but i just can't get over that grille... idk, it just doesn't look good in any angle for me
The biggest mistake was calling it a csl and then having the audacity to talk about it’s lightness when it isn’t light.
Dude it definitely doesn't have 443 horsepower
People was really critic with Chris Bangle design in BMW but in the 5 and 3 series I think that was the best design in BMW. To this point only go to worse. With 7 and 6 serie Chris maybe had a bad day…
IMO they could've just street legalified the current gen M4 GT4 and and made the GTS out of it, if it ever happens that is
snatch out the seats and get a tune
they shpuldve made the rear light more minimal in size to make the thin light stuff show more boldy when lights are not on. yes the light cover has to be squared off at rear for areodynamics, but no need to have super function over form everything at this point of car, its s stupid silly toy spec of a car might as well be more excelent at the aesthetics.
M4 is looking way better, I am a designer too
It has 550hp and not 443hp as you mention..
The back light are laser not an LED
General proportions and stance of the car are good. However the contours that cloth those proportions are still in the wilderness. There is a very fine line between avant-garde and garrish and BMW continues to find itself on the wrong side of that equation.
Good thing BMW didn't listened to any of ya'll - please design your own realistic sport sedan so we can compare
Great performance but poor lineflow imo esp the rear. So many unncessary lines and creases. The front somehow looks better than the rear.
We're they always making cool cars?
It's about time
The design is LITERALLY the same as M4... it is grotesque
Now you see the grill grown on me comment I swear this world is funny 😂
1 min "BMW has lost it" , after M4 CSL "it has grown on me" 🙄
"It sounds really good" are you being serious?
So you can make this and at the same time push something like the XM, BMW?
Seriously?
How?
Why?
Stunning car.
And the normal one does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds
Well, they should design reliable cars as well... is too difficult for them probably
Why does it look like alfa romeo from behind lol
Loosing weight bud!! 👏 👏 👏
지려따리
Rear lights aren’t LED’s they are called laser wire 🤦🏻♂️
M4csl ❤️
Sadly it doesn’t have xDrive
I agree with you
@@GoBrand0n for me that a step Back….
It's sounds pretty bad comparing to normal engines - NA V8.
Just im gonna say اللهم أرزقنا ياااا☝️ااارب
so they made it look more like mercedes
Looks like a Mustang
Still think its ugly. The shape of the kidneys are growing on me but the shape of the lights and creases are still not working and i would rather have the m340i for its normal looking front end