Great video, thanks. I am 45 years old, been riding bikes since I was a kid and never worried too much about chain maintenance, just sprayed with WD-40 a couple times a year. But I just got my first "nice" bike and want to make the drive train last longer than the department store bikes I have had my whole life. I put tri-flow lubricant on every rivet of the chain when it was new, and already ordered a chain cleaner to prepare for the first cleaning. I am a daily commuter (about 100 miles/week, mixture of paved and gravel trails) and plan on doing this procedure at least every couple of weeks. Anyhow, I would have been lost without your video. Thanks again.
jajajaj que genio, me moría de la risa cuando dijiste lo de los comentarios. Muchas gracias por tus excelentes videos. Me suscribí y estoy aprendiendo mucho con tu canal. Congrats from México.
Personally I like to separate every link by hand. Then I take all the links and I heat them up on the owen to around 300 degrees Celcius. After that I rub them individually with a carefully selected cloth made of nanotubes. I then carefully connect all the links and grease them with my own formula.
eryck123 you are doing it right to a point. You really should be cleaning them on a molecular level as well. There is a guy operating out of a warehouse in Houston Texas who has a machine that can do this for about 10 large. Takes about 21 days and the results are better than anything suggested here.
Fantastic method! I've done it ALL wrong all these years! Breaking the chain, losing the links, find new ones from store, lubricating chain too much etc etc.. What I've learned from you is: Less is more. Thanks!
Thanks for the education. Winter is finally over looking forward to getting bike ready to ride. Didn't want to clean my chain on living room floor. I and a friend have watched many of your videos to make our bikes ready to be trouble free this summer.
Excellent cleaning tool. I use it often since I mostly ride on the beach & off road. The best dry lubricant I have found to counteract the sand & salt is "McLube" which was originally designed for marine use. Easy spray application. A bit expensive at $18-$20 for 16 oz, but it has kept my chain & derailleur in great shape for over a year of abuse.
I have been using the park chain cleaner and citrus degreaser for long time now. Like you I am throughly satisfied with the results. Lately I have been experimenting using the liquid wrench chain lube taking care to wipe off the excess. I have not been really happy with the results and have been looking for another option for lubing my chains. After watching this I believe I will give your method a go. I really like your tip of marking the chain with a marker. Thanks for the timely video.
i converted from over-lubber to one-drop-per-link-lubber and I am never going back, the chain stays clean and silent for so much longer (city commuter here :p). I love it!.
Great video. I use the master link as my start-finish point. I like using mug scrubber and the same degreaser. I've ridden 10k mi on my Roubaix. I just replaced my small chain ring last month. Cleaning the chain is paramount.
After experimenting with different methods, I settled on your way and it works just fine. BTW I tried removing the chain, soaking in mineral spirits and then lubing in a crockpot of bees wax and paraffin wax. It was not very effective and took forever. Your way is totally effective and takes 10 minutes tops. Thanks RJ.
Try cleaning and lubing the chain like I do in the video. The chain scrubber really scrubs the chain and gets all the gunk off. Then use the dry lube like I use. It will lube the chain, and the chain won't be all greasy to pick up more dirt so readily. It's possible your chain rings and cassette are worn. I can't say.
After the degreaser in the cyclone, I dump it and refill with soapy water I have ready for bike washing. It really cleans all that water based degreaser out of there quickly. A con is that you have to let the chain dry before lubing. I wonder if putting oil on a chain with degreaser in all the pivot points negates some of the benefit. I'm also a simpleton that uses Mobil 1 as chain lube, so feel free to ignore my comment. I enjoy your vids.
Excellent, this is how I've been doing it for a few years now. Although after lubing I find that I need to clean the excess off the chain a few more times after riding the bike because otherwise dirt and dust starts sticking.
RJ The Bike Guy, don't worry about the trolls. If your method makes sense and works, it'll stand out. It has helped me tremendously so I follow your videos.
You're doing it wrong, i use a special radiation chamber to deionize the particles stuck on the chain and then split the chain into proton/neutron sub-shell level and clean it with nanoscopic precision.
I've found your vids to be informative and fun to watch, got a good chuckle on your remarks to folks leaving messages about how you're doing it wrong LOL! Thanks for the content you share Thumbs Up!
When I was a kid I used to put motor engine oil on my chain, what a mess the stuff was a dirt magnet. Nowadays I use a light lube oil that gets washed off with rain and doesn't collect a lot of dirt. Chains wear out its inevitable, some people these days seem to obsess about lubes, chain life etc.
Hi how's everything! I have a question regarding cleaning the drive train on my electric bike. Now, I have a Scootstar Rockstar electric bike, and I want to clean my drive train using the Park Tool Starter Kit. What would I need to do as far as setting the gear setting, and how far off the ground would the bike have to be mounted to perform this task.
Marguerite Kopiec, contact your local authorities of how to dispose of the dirty degreaser in your area. I just dry off the chain as mush as possible after degreasing it and before lubing it.
Jacob Voelker your method takes ages and isn't too great just created an even flow of lubricant and then spin the chair mandatory after wipe the access
What about the chain ring/s and cassette sprockets? Mine look grimy and I thought you need to clean them too, else the cleaned up chain will pick it up from next chain ring sprocket combination.
I switched from oil to PTFE (teflon) aerosol because I ride in my office clothes and want to keep them clean from chain oil. I'm using it only for few months so I don't have an opinion how good is it for a chain but it does keep it clean and dry but also a bit noisier. Do you have experience with that type of lubrication?
I put the bottle tip against the chain and slowly back peddle. I figured just how much light pressure I needed to get the right amount on the chain after doing it for so long. I ride in the dirt on my way to work and I have to clean the chain every other day.
Hey RJ, can i ask how you clean off all of your brushes and cleaning equipment after a bike wash. I have the brush set and have cleaned loads of bikes but now they have become so greasy that they actually leave more grease on the bike than was on there before. Can you let me know what you do to clean up all of your cleaning brushes so they are fit for a clean next time?
You have great videos ,,,,great information.....keep up the good work.....can you distinguish in years between Old bikes,,,,,,(years). Vintage ( years). Classic ( years). And modern ( carbon - present)
I ride as a bicycle courier all day collecting road grime and grit, especially in nasty weather. I don't think any method is wrong, and I like these specialty tools (the purple ZEP seems to work better, and I give the chain cleaner as a gift to my normal friends, that is to say, commuters, not total-bike-nerds) but I use a brush and a bucket of soapy water to clean, then use a palmful of olive oil for lube (toweling the excess). I only do this after a nasty day or the funk builds up.
Thanks for sharing this. 1. How do you dispose of the dirty degreaser? 2. I've been told to do a soap wash and rinse after cleaning and before the lube, What do you think? That's what I've been doing, with good results. Also, istead of teflon lube, I use self cleaning wax lubricant by White Lightning, called Clean Ride. Works great. I do a clean up every 200 kms, doing almost exclusively pavement riding.
Hi RJ This method looks like something I can do with out purchasing a bike stand and all the professional equipment. Thanks for the video. How often should I clean the chain? I had my bike maintenance early last year but I didn't ride much. My bike mostly sat in the garage . Do I need to have it maintenance again although I didn't ride much last year? Doesn't look too bad to me
I do much like you though I usually take one more step before relubing. I usually take a damp rag rather than a dry one first, as I have found sometimes the citrus degreasers leave a residue which makes the chain sticky. Other than that I follow your process.
RJ, I use the same lube, it seems though that when I get my bike back from the shop it has a heavier lube on the chain that does not pick up tons of dirt. I use their wet lube in the winter and like it but do not feel like this is the magic lube that I am looking for. Any ideas?
RJ Your method is Awesome,vI used the liquid and it's just like You said, thanks I'm learning a lot about how to do things the right way !☺ Thomas C Belanger FanTom USA
One thing that I've encountered with teflon lube (although I'm not 100% sure it's it's fault) is that cleaning the chain after it is a huge pain. Initially I've just soaked it in acetone and then used a brush to clean, but it still was leaving nice black trace on my hands when I touched it. Then I decided to buy the same device for chain cleaning that you showcased and used degreaser, but even after running it for half a minute 3 times, the liquid was still black. Seems like it's pretty hard to get rid of. I guess it's not that big of a deal? If so, when is it best to stop cleaning and start applying fresh lube?
YOU'RE DOING IT ALL WRONG! But it's WAY better than the way I do it so I think I'll try it your way! I've been curious about those chain cleaners, now I have an excuse to buy one. As always, THANKS for the share! :-)
With a 60 mile daily commute,I need to clean & lube daily.I also do 1 link at a time.chain lube is expensive though & I wondered if you'd tried car oil like shell or Mobil 1?
Here is a video I did on cleaning and lubing a freewheel: How To Clean, Degrease and Lube a Bike Freewheel and here is a video I did on cleaning and lubing the derailleur pulleys: How To Clean/Lube Rear Derailleur Pulleys
RJ Do you clean brand new chains before you use them like some people do? I've read somewhere that e.g. Sram chains have excellent lubricant already on them, my only problem with using chains fresh out the box is that new chains have oil everywhere and that tends to collect dirt something awful. Currently I'm wiping the sides with degreaser while the chain is still in the box to try and reduce this. Any suggestions? Sorry if you've already been asked this.
Too many variables. Maybe you ride in rough conditions. Maybe use a better/different lube. Maybe you ride in high gears at low cadences, really torquing on the pedals beat the crap out of your drivetrain, instead of spinning. I can't tell you.
RJ, thank you for posting. After about how many miles would you say that you do this, assuming riding in dry conditions? How many miles do you think you usually get out of a chain typically?
I am assuming you mean paint thinner. Maybe, but I think a citrus degreaser would be cheaper and better. I especially suggest you don't try using paint thinner in a plaster chain scrubber.
I have had it on my hands many times and not had any problems. But here is the MSDS for the stuff I used: www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/4e/4e2fdc3d-d159-4fca-b77b-2048e6c5b056.pdf
Does this also clean the cog where the chain is on? This keeping the chain on a dirty cog while cleaning it bothers me. Do you have a video to easily clean cassettes where you don't have to remove them from the wheel? Thanks RJ
Zimba9810 You need to isolate where the issue is. Does it turn smoothly without the chain? It could be the hub needs overhauled: ruclips.net/video/_axwV6sfaAs/видео.html
That tool is pretty neat. A thought I had was, why not get a second one that you fill with the dry chain lube and just run that through after the rag? Might make things faster and waste less lube while still doing the same thing you already are doing.
@@RJTheBikeGuy Good point, but my thought was that, once the chain has been cleaned, you would just keep using the same chain lube each time. Just leave it in the chain cleaner. I could see where it would waste lube, but I'd like to try it to see how much excess chain lube it picked up to see if it actually wasted it. It would certainly waste lube if you ran the chain through there as quickly as you were when cleaning, but at the pace you were using to lube it the waste might be reduced.
Your method sucks, it's all wrong, I use kerosene to soak my chain in and then put it in a 1 gallon bucket of 5w30 motor oil. Totally bs'ing. Thank you for the vid, good work.
Nice video. The CM-5 is definitely good though I've read from many reviews on Amazon, that (Finish Line C2200) is just better at cleaning and mostly, much less prone to breaking. It is also a little less expensive as you don't pay as much for the "brand name". I'd rather pay like 35$ than 50$ for the Park Tool but this is definitely on my buy list for 2015! I use the Finish Line Ceremic lube instead of the dry one. I only ride on nice days with my road bike that is on Sram Rival 22.
PanzerIV I have been using the CM-5 for years and haven't had it break. I will take a look at the C2200. Pedros also has the Pig: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B009NN261Q/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
I'm presuming it's the chain. Rode through the pishing rain and fairly dusty roads end of last week (joy's of scottish weather) then left for four days until today (hosed down, pretty much all). Must be due a good clean and service.
I use kerosene in the chain cleaner then i recuperate the solvent in a jar and the sediment depose itself at the bottom so i can reuse it . So my kerosene jug goes a long way.
After I've cleaned my chain as demonstrated in your video, including wiping off any excess oil at the end, when I run the chain through a rag, the rag still comes away with black tracks. Is this dirt that's still on the chain, or is it excess oil? I do run the chain through 30+ revolutions while it's in the Park Tool Cyclone chain scrubber. Thanks!
If it's really dirty, you might need to run it through a couple times, But while the tool is going to remove most of the old oil, there will will still be traces of it left.
Thanks! I wondered because I'd seen Georgena Terry's video, and she demonstrated how clean her chain was (after cleaning) by running it through her hand! (And coming away with very little oil on her hand.)
I've read some bad reviews about the cyclone chain cleaner on Amazon. Have you ever had it break on you? It looked pretty easy to use in your video, but people in the reviews were complaining that it was difficult to use and that it did not clean very well.
Kayla Brown I have been using it for years and never had it break. And it is generally pretty easy to use. Here is an earlier video I shot with it in 2011 and I am still using the same cleaner: ruclips.net/video/zNjZsW1sB0w/видео.html
Just a bit of input.. I bought this exact chain cleaner online with this phone app called Geek. I use it to order a bunch of cheap shit from China lol. It was only $3 plus $1 shipping! The Park one is $24!! the cheap ones even better. It has 3 sets of rotating brushes (top, sides, and bottom) instead of just 2, and little rubber fins where the Park one has the foam. It's definitely a steal. Shit, even if it breaks I could buy 6 of them for the price of one Park.
For several decades I've used a normal garden hose, on the high pressure jet setting, to rinse the chain afterwards. Cold water works fine, but if you can use hot that's even better. I do both sides, holding the stream steady and back pedaling. Then I wash the rest of the bike, bounce it on the back wheel to get as much water off as possible, wipe down, let dry completely. Then lube the chain, derailleur, and anything else you need to. Leaving degreaser residue on chain can compromise your lube's performance and even be a bit of a dirt magnet. Clean&dry is always the best whenever possible. All IMHO, of course. :-)
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...and then promptly ignore them."
I literally LOL'ed.
Rj has prob heard every know it all preach some bs many times :(
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Great video, thanks. I am 45 years old, been riding bikes since I was a kid and never worried too much about chain maintenance, just sprayed with WD-40 a couple times a year. But I just got my first "nice" bike and want to make the drive train last longer than the department store bikes I have had my whole life. I put tri-flow lubricant on every rivet of the chain when it was new, and already ordered a chain cleaner to prepare for the first cleaning. I am a daily commuter (about 100 miles/week, mixture of paved and gravel trails) and plan on doing this procedure at least every couple of weeks. Anyhow, I would have been lost without your video. Thanks again.
ok I've done my research since i first saw this vid about an year ago and it seems your method is the best.
You have a great approach to handling trolls, lol. Encouraging them ahead of time to leave comments to be ignored is genius.
jajajaj que genio, me moría de la risa cuando dijiste lo de los comentarios. Muchas gracias por tus excelentes videos. Me suscribí y estoy aprendiendo mucho con tu canal. Congrats from México.
Personally I like to separate every link by hand. Then I take all the links and I heat them up on the owen to around 300 degrees Celcius. After that I rub them individually with a carefully selected cloth made of nanotubes. I then carefully connect all the links and grease them with my own formula.
eryck123 you are doing it right to a point. You really should be cleaning them on a molecular level as well. There is a guy operating out of a warehouse in Houston Texas who has a machine that can do this for about 10 large. Takes about 21 days and the results are better than anything suggested here.
Fantastic method! I've done it ALL wrong all these years! Breaking the chain, losing the links, find new ones from store, lubricating chain too much etc etc..
What I've learned from you is: Less is more.
Thanks!
Thanks for the education. Winter is finally over looking forward to getting bike ready to ride. Didn't want to clean my chain on living room floor. I and a friend have watched many of your videos to make our bikes ready to be trouble free this summer.
I like all of your videos and methods. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent cleaning tool. I use it often since I mostly ride on the beach & off road. The best dry lubricant I have found to counteract the sand & salt is "McLube" which was originally designed for marine use. Easy spray application. A bit expensive at $18-$20 for 16 oz, but it has kept my chain & derailleur in great shape for over a year of abuse.
I like your way of explaining the methods... Highly appreciated...
I have been using the park chain cleaner and citrus degreaser for long time now. Like you I am throughly satisfied with the results. Lately I have been experimenting using the liquid wrench chain lube taking care to wipe off the excess. I have not been really happy with the results and have been looking for another option for lubing my chains. After watching this I believe I will give your method a go. I really like your tip of marking the chain with a marker. Thanks for the timely video.
Can't argue against years of knowledge & experience. Thank you Sir!
i converted from over-lubber to one-drop-per-link-lubber and I am never going back, the chain stays clean and silent for so much longer (city commuter here :p). I love it!.
Great video. I use the master link as my start-finish point. I like using mug scrubber and the same degreaser. I've ridden 10k mi on my Roubaix. I just replaced my small chain ring last month. Cleaning the chain is paramount.
After experimenting with different methods, I settled on your way and it works just fine. BTW I tried removing the chain, soaking in mineral spirits and then lubing in a crockpot of bees wax and paraffin wax. It was not very effective and took forever. Your way is totally effective and takes 10 minutes tops. Thanks RJ.
Try cleaning and lubing the chain like I do in the video. The chain scrubber really scrubs the chain and gets all the gunk off. Then use the dry lube like I use. It will lube the chain, and the chain won't be all greasy to pick up more dirt so readily. It's possible your chain rings and cassette are worn. I can't say.
Great vid! How long do the Park Tool brushes last (how many uses) and how do you know when they're no longer effective? Thanks!
Everyone does it differently but that's why I'm watching your vid and learning new ways. Good job
After the degreaser in the cyclone, I dump it and refill with soapy water I have ready for bike washing. It really cleans all that water based degreaser out of there quickly. A con is that you have to let the chain dry before lubing. I wonder if putting oil on a chain with degreaser in all the pivot points negates some of the benefit. I'm also a simpleton that uses Mobil 1 as chain lube, so feel free to ignore my comment. I enjoy your vids.
LOL! Love your sarcasm! You rock. Thank you for your time and excellent tips! 💕
Excellent, this is how I've been doing it for a few years now. Although after lubing I find that I need to clean the excess off the chain a few more times after riding the bike because otherwise dirt and dust starts sticking.
Hello RJ, I hope this is not disappointing, but I find your videos helpful and informative. Thanks!
RJ The Bike Guy, don't worry about the trolls. If your method makes sense and works, it'll stand out. It has helped me tremendously so I follow your videos.
They should make wire brush rollers for the cleaner. for that hard caked grease. good video! very informative
Hi RJ, i learned a lot from you about bikes i like your ways. Tony in Ireland.
You're doing it wrong, i use a special radiation chamber to deionize the particles stuck on the chain and then split the chain into proton/neutron sub-shell level and clean it with nanoscopic precision.
Cease and desist with that method. I have a patent on that process. You have been warned.
I didn’t know cleaning 🧹 was rocket science
I've found your vids to be informative and fun to watch, got a good chuckle on your remarks to folks leaving messages about how you're doing it wrong LOL! Thanks for the content you share Thumbs Up!
Thanks for sharing .years of experience cant be wrong.
Best videos from you sir.👍👍👍
that pen trick is amazing
When I was a kid I used to put motor engine oil on my chain, what a mess the stuff was a dirt magnet. Nowadays I use a light lube oil that gets washed off with rain and doesn't collect a lot of dirt. Chains wear out its inevitable, some people these days seem to obsess about lubes, chain life etc.
Hi how's everything! I have a question regarding cleaning the drive train on my electric bike. Now, I have a Scootstar Rockstar electric bike, and I want to clean my drive train using the Park Tool Starter Kit. What would I need to do as far as setting the gear setting, and how far off the ground would the bike have to be mounted to perform this task.
You're doing it all wrong !! 😂 great video for me a beginner, thank you 👍
Love your videos. And the way you apply lube is the exact same way I do it, too.
Marguerite Kopiec, contact your local authorities of how to dispose of the dirty degreaser in your area. I just dry off the chain as mush as possible after degreasing it and before lubing it.
Took 10 months but your nethod sucks sping the chaon with an even flow the nwipe the access
rikudou sennin huh?
Jacob Voelker your method takes ages and isn't too great just created an even flow of lubricant and then spin the chair mandatory after wipe the access
It goes pretty quick in the video.
But could be quicker and better
What about the chain ring/s and cassette sprockets? Mine look grimy and I thought you need to clean them too, else the cleaned up chain will pick it up from next chain ring sprocket combination.
I bought a bicycle with a belt drive. I just use a clean dry brush to brush off the belt and belt drive rings front and back after each ride.
Enjoyed the video, thanks RJ
I switched from oil to PTFE (teflon) aerosol because I ride in my office clothes and want to keep them clean from chain oil. I'm using it only for few months so I don't have an opinion how good is it for a chain but it does keep it clean and dry but also a bit noisier. Do you have experience with that type of lubrication?
I put the bottle tip against the chain and slowly back peddle. I figured just how much light pressure I needed to get the right amount on the chain after doing it for so long. I ride in the dirt on my way to work and I have to clean the chain every other day.
Hey RJ, can i ask how you clean off all of your brushes and cleaning equipment after a bike wash. I have the brush set and have cleaned loads of bikes but now they have become so greasy that they actually leave more grease on the bike than was on there before. Can you let me know what you do to clean up all of your cleaning brushes so they are fit for a clean next time?
klang180 many people recommend natural bristled brushes to avoid this. I just clean my brushes before putting them away.
You are in gear 1 what if you went in 1 and 2,3,4 ect how would you clean them and also would you use wet lube or dry lube
You have great videos ,,,,great information.....keep up the good work.....can you distinguish in years between
Old bikes,,,,,,(years). Vintage ( years). Classic ( years). And modern ( carbon - present)
My method is better than all the above and below I ride the bike til the chain falls apart then have the bike shop replace it
I ride as a bicycle courier all day collecting road grime and grit, especially in nasty weather. I don't think any method is wrong, and I like these specialty tools (the purple ZEP seems to work better, and I give the chain cleaner as a gift to my normal friends, that is to say, commuters, not total-bike-nerds) but I use a brush and a bucket of soapy water to clean, then use a palmful of olive oil for lube (toweling the excess). I only do this after a nasty day or the funk builds up.
Which one is best for chain cleaning Petrol or Diesel ??
I don't use either. I use degreaser.
TSP works great as a degreaser and is super-cheap.
Thanks for the info, going to use your method now,
You can clean oily rag with finish-cleaner. I washed in washing mashine. If you have good rag, it's reasonable to re-use it.
Thanks for sharing this. 1. How do you dispose of the dirty degreaser? 2. I've been told to do a soap wash and rinse after cleaning and before the lube, What do you think?
That's what I've been doing, with good results. Also, istead of teflon lube, I use self cleaning wax lubricant by White Lightning, called Clean Ride. Works great. I do a clean up every 200 kms, doing almost exclusively pavement riding.
Hi RJ This method looks like something I can do with out purchasing a bike stand and all the professional equipment. Thanks for the video. How often should I clean the chain? I had my bike maintenance early last year but I didn't ride much. My bike mostly sat in the garage . Do I need to have it maintenance again although I didn't ride much last year? Doesn't look too bad to me
I clean and lube chains as needed. Can't hurt to clean and lube a chain every once in a while anyway.
What is your opinion on using paraffin wax for lubrication ?
I do much like you though I usually take one more step before relubing. I usually take a damp rag rather than a dry one first, as I have found sometimes the citrus degreasers leave a residue which makes the chain sticky. Other than that I follow your process.
Hey, great videos. Keep em coming.
Hey rj , would you suggest cleaning the chain using wd40 and wiping it off then apply the lube?
No, I would not.
RJ, I use the same lube, it seems though that when I get my bike back from the shop it has a heavier lube on the chain that does not pick up tons of dirt. I use their wet lube in the winter and like it but do not feel like this is the magic lube that I am looking for. Any ideas?
Very useful
RJ Your method is Awesome,vI used the liquid and it's just like You said, thanks I'm learning a lot about how to do things the right way !☺ Thomas C Belanger FanTom USA
Dumb question - where do you dump the dirty degreaser fluid in the Park Cleaner tool?
Consult your local ordinances for what you should do with it.
One thing that I've encountered with teflon lube (although I'm not 100% sure it's it's fault) is that cleaning the chain after it is a huge pain.
Initially I've just soaked it in acetone and then used a brush to clean, but it still was leaving nice black trace on my hands when I touched it. Then I decided to buy the same device for chain cleaning that you showcased and used degreaser, but even after running it for half a minute 3 times, the liquid was still black. Seems like it's pretty hard to get rid of.
I guess it's not that big of a deal? If so, when is it best to stop cleaning and start applying fresh lube?
YOU'RE DOING IT ALL WRONG! But it's WAY better than the way I do it so I think I'll try it your way! I've been curious about those chain cleaners, now I have an excuse to buy one. As always, THANKS for the share! :-)
Nice helpful video! What's the stand that your using thats small and allows the tire to move? Looks handy. Like to get one myself
It's a bike trainer that someone was throwing away. The mag resistance part was missing.
With a 60 mile daily commute,I need to clean & lube daily.I also do 1 link at a time.chain lube is expensive though & I wondered if you'd tried car oil like shell or Mobil 1?
You clean/lube your chain every 60 miles? Wow. Nope, I don't use car oil. I use Finish Line Dry Lube which leaves a teflon coating inside the links.
shyflirt1 pretty much every evening, especially when it has been raining. Summer I can be a bit lazier, perhaps 2 or 3 times per week.
shyflirt1 pretty much every evening, especially when it has been raining. Summer I can be a bit lazier, perhaps 2 or 3 times per week.
I don't clean/lube my chain nearly that often.
bikeanddogtrips check out the "The 5 Minute Bike Wash - How To Clean Your Bike In A Hurry" by global cycle network.
Excellent! Thank you.
Very Helpful Thanks
RJ didn't give a shit that day 👍🏼
Any tips for cleaning the sprockets and dérailleur?
Here is a video I did on cleaning and lubing a freewheel: How To Clean, Degrease and Lube a Bike Freewheel
and here is a video I did on cleaning and lubing the derailleur pulleys:
How To Clean/Lube Rear Derailleur Pulleys
Thank you for watching! LOL
I love all your videos. Just about everything I have learned about maintenance on bikes comes from watching you!
RJ Do you clean brand new chains before you use them like some people do? I've read somewhere that e.g. Sram chains have excellent lubricant already on them, my only problem with using chains fresh out the box is that new chains have oil everywhere and that tends to collect dirt something awful. Currently I'm wiping the sides with degreaser while the chain is still in the box to try and reduce this. Any suggestions? Sorry if you've already been asked this.
+Peter Jack I don't clean them. At most I might wipe off any excess oil.
Hello! I do this method just as you said, only I use other products. My chains last only about 2000-3000 km. Any suggestions?
Too many variables. Maybe you ride in rough conditions. Maybe use a better/different lube. Maybe you ride in high gears at low cadences, really torquing on the pedals beat the crap out of your drivetrain, instead of spinning. I can't tell you.
@@RJTheBikeGuy I think it's mainly the no spinning thing. Could be a manteinance procedure thing, too. Thanks.
Spinning at a cadence of 90rpm is more efficient. And easier on the drivetrain.
Hello, came back for feedback. Spinning rather than grinding + waxing the chain made the trick. Thanks a lot.
RJ, thank you for posting. After about how many miles would you say that you do this, assuming riding in dry conditions? How many miles do you think you usually get out of a chain typically?
As needed. It depends. I replace chains when they measure out as worn.
Thanks for the video!
Sir can I use painter as a degreaser on my chain
I am assuming you mean paint thinner. Maybe, but I think a citrus degreaser would be cheaper and better. I especially suggest you don't try using paint thinner in a plaster chain scrubber.
Good stuff thanks
will the citrus degreaser damage your hand if you touch it?
I have had it on my hands many times and not had any problems.
But here is the MSDS for the stuff I used:
www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/4e/4e2fdc3d-d159-4fca-b77b-2048e6c5b056.pdf
You use good products
Does this also clean the cog where the chain is on? This keeping the chain on a dirty cog while cleaning it bothers me.
Do you have a video to easily clean cassettes where you don't have to remove them from the wheel?
Thanks RJ
It cleans the chain. And no.
my bike wheel doenst glide smooth its not the brakes rubbing againts it i cant figure what else it could be any idea?
Zimba9810 You need to isolate where the issue is. Does it turn smoothly without the chain? It could be the hub needs overhauled: ruclips.net/video/_axwV6sfaAs/видео.html
my favorite part was 3:14 :D hahaha good laugh. But on a serious note, great video. Very informative, thank you!
Thank you
That tool is pretty neat. A thought I had was, why not get a second one that you fill with the dry chain lube and just run that through after the rag? Might make things faster and waste less lube while still doing the same thing you already are doing.
That would be a major waste of chain lube! You only need a drop per link.
@@RJTheBikeGuy Good point, but my thought was that, once the chain has been cleaned, you would just keep using the same chain lube each time. Just leave it in the chain cleaner. I could see where it would waste lube, but I'd like to try it to see how much excess chain lube it picked up to see if it actually wasted it. It would certainly waste lube if you ran the chain through there as quickly as you were when cleaning, but at the pace you were using to lube it the waste might be reduced.
Your method sucks, it's all wrong, I use kerosene to soak my chain in and then put it in a 1 gallon bucket of 5w30 motor oil. Totally bs'ing. Thank you for the vid, good work.
+Randel Wallace what are you talking abou t his method is so time consuming a just plain WRONG. haha just kidding, this video is cool.
We trust you RJ
Nice video. The CM-5 is definitely good though I've read from many reviews on Amazon, that (Finish Line C2200) is just better at cleaning and mostly, much less prone to breaking. It is also a little less expensive as you don't pay as much for the "brand name". I'd rather pay like 35$ than 50$ for the Park Tool but this is definitely on my buy list for 2015!
I use the Finish Line Ceremic lube instead of the dry one. I only ride on nice days with my road bike that is on Sram Rival 22.
PanzerIV I have been using the CM-5 for years and haven't had it break. I will take a look at the C2200. Pedros also has the Pig: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B009NN261Q/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
Can i use kerosene instead of degreaser
I liked how you do it so I'm going to do it, chain's squeaky as hell at the Mo.
TheBleanord Cool. Be aware that squeaks are tricky buggers and aren't always coming from where you think it is.
I'm presuming it's the chain. Rode through the pishing rain and fairly dusty roads end of last week (joy's of scottish weather) then left for four days until today (hosed down, pretty much all). Must be due a good clean and service.
I use kerosene in the chain cleaner then i recuperate the solvent in a jar and the sediment depose itself at the bottom so i can reuse it . So my kerosene jug goes a long way.
After I've cleaned my chain as demonstrated in your video, including wiping off any excess oil at the end, when I run the chain through a rag, the rag still comes away with black tracks.
Is this dirt that's still on the chain, or is it excess oil?
I do run the chain through 30+ revolutions while it's in the Park Tool Cyclone chain scrubber.
Thanks!
If it's really dirty, you might need to run it through a couple times, But while the tool is going to remove most of the old oil, there will will still be traces of it left.
Thanks! I wondered because I'd seen Georgena Terry's video, and she demonstrated how clean her chain was (after cleaning) by running it through her hand! (And coming away with very little oil on her hand.)
Great
How much is a new chain?
I usually buy chains $10-15. But they can be more.
very simple way yes I like it :)
I've read some bad reviews about the cyclone chain cleaner on Amazon. Have you ever had it break on you? It looked pretty easy to use in your video, but people in the reviews were complaining that it was difficult to use and that it did not clean very well.
Kayla Brown I have been using it for years and never had it break. And it is generally pretty easy to use. Here is an earlier video I shot with it in 2011 and I am still using the same cleaner: ruclips.net/video/zNjZsW1sB0w/видео.html
You're really not bad, really......
Thank you !
Just a bit of input.. I bought this exact chain cleaner online with this phone app called Geek. I use it to order a bunch of cheap shit from China lol. It was only $3 plus $1 shipping! The Park one is $24!! the cheap ones even better. It has 3 sets of rotating brushes (top, sides, and bottom) instead of just 2, and little rubber fins where the Park one has the foam. It's definitely a steal. Shit, even if it breaks I could buy 6 of them for the price of one Park.
I got mine for the same on the wish app. Its the same as geek. Same company. Totally a steal and worked great for me as well
I need this chain cleaner machine! It's nowhere to be found where I live.
Ok, but ..... How about cleanning cassette and crank sprokets? Not necessary?
When should I change my chain? I have my bike 2 years (3000km) and still haven't changed it
ruclips.net/video/Y54ekC8PHB0/видео.html
MrOndrof ... when it refuses to bend around a sprocket or finally breaks😀😀😀
RJ I use Extra Virgin First Cold Press Olive Oil. Just kidding. Great Vids!
For several decades I've used a normal garden hose, on the high pressure jet setting, to rinse the chain afterwards. Cold water works fine, but if you can use hot that's even better. I do both sides, holding the stream steady and back pedaling. Then I wash the rest of the bike, bounce it on the back wheel to get as much water off as possible, wipe down, let dry completely. Then lube the chain, derailleur, and anything else you need to. Leaving degreaser residue on chain can compromise your lube's performance and even be a bit of a dirt magnet. Clean&dry is always the best whenever possible. All IMHO, of course. :-)
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