Sartre on Intellectualism
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Jean-Paul Sartre, was a French existentialist philosopher, playwright, novelist, screenwriter, political activist, biographer, and literary critic. He was one of the leading figures in 20th century French philosophy.
In this clip, Sartre discusses the characteristics of a "classic intellectual" and its relationship to Hegel's notion of the "unhappy conscience."
Yeah... I don't really understand it either, but since I found the clip I felt it was my philosophical duty to upload it for people who might.
Thank you.
I think the point he was getting to is that classic intellectuals sit on the sidelines and grumble about the wrongs of the world. This was clearly filmed shortly after the '68 uprisings across the globe and in particular in Paris and he was struck by the action of the protesters and their willingness to go beyond merely writing manifestos and having a wee march from time to time.
It is pretty straight forward...
Sounds different than I anticipated. Kind of like a philosophical gremlin.
This is a decrepit and a very sick Sartre, one who also kept smoking despite his strokes
He is spot on in turning a direct and well considered response to the question.
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@Nelson Matias lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
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I've seen this as a 2 part VHS video, originally filmed in Paris, 1976. It is the only film on Sartre I've seen that really helps to understand his deepest insights. It contains things one is not likely to see or read elsewhere, like when he says, regarding his essay Existentialism is a Humanism: "That was a mistake"--exactly what I thought when I read it! He also indirectly admits that writing Being and Nothingness led him to a nervous breakdown. I'll be interested to check out your other RUclips videos, but if you could possibly somehow upload the whole film, please do so. Thanks.
Just reading Being and Nothingness nearly gave me a mental breakdown I could not FATHOM the hell of organizing those ideas into a whole book. Sartre was a different breed, that endeavor would have broken most philosophers of the time.
Being and nothingness is absolutely one of my favorites from him. It depends on your mindset when you set out to read it, but truly a colourful book that talks about the many layers of what consciousness or lack of, and how it is reflected, or received by one's own consciousness and ego, but also how it distributes information to perceive. Much more in the book, but overall, very brilliant work and very happy to read it.
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Camus Can Do, But Sartre is Smartre
if you think about it that you spell sarte sart, you can just use smart and the ryhme makes sense even more
Camus and many other 20th century French intellectuals/academics were well above Sartre, in many respects.
Intellectuals can most certainly come from proletariat beginnings. Many, because of twisted social conditions, don't receive proper compensation for their work. Look into the history of Jazz.
Blue Ribbon Healers Class is not a measure of intellectualism -but maybe those with invested with expensive education and time in higher level studies warrant and attract payment more readily than (maybe brighter) brains with no such added value. Ps. I count myself in the latter.
Plenty of highly intelligent people are born into the wrong family and live their whole lives without seeing their full potential because they simply don’t have the education that more advantaged or aristocratic people born with highly intelligent minds are afforded from birth. It’s sad but that’s life.
@@jwardbass4452no family should be the 'wrong family' and that's a Global systemic issue I think to be honest
I loove how his french is so clear.
Sounds like a gay language to me
@@الشرقي-و4ي And you sound like a homophobic turd to everyone else
@@afonsosousa2684 yea
@@afonsosousa2684 Indeed. Or maybe he meant it like a compliment, who knows? ;-)
His French is not really clear - because he was old here
yeah, for a long time i always thought that his self negligence came purely out of humility because for one, i used to think he really was a genius
but going through his biographies and interviews i found out he truly despised his surface, and he cared enough about the surface that he had come to a point where he was entirely in despair.
Surface as in appearance?
Amazing. Thank you!
I agree with Eageson above. Please find and upload the whole thing!
I enjoy these egocentric attitudes in people that immediately classify anything they don't understand...as incoherent babble.
Most people don't really want to have to try to understand difficult, broad, far-reaching concepts. They just want the platitudes that were stuffed down their throats as children to be constantly maintained and reinforced.
@@crawlingamongthestars3736 Parents? Teachers? Peer group down-pressure? Own lack of effort, aplication, concentration or interest?
D D All of the above, and probably more.
@@crawlingamongthestars3736 It's not easy or fun to deconstruct your own world.
Sartre...the best question he ever asked was not 'what if I fell?' but 'what if I JUMPED?'
Bullshit
@@Hithere-ek4qt :DDDD
Sartre hit the nail square on here.
It seems like he only described the classic intellectual and when he started explaining the other type he saw after the French student revolt in the 60's he got cut off.
The truest dude ever
Okay I'll try and have a go at explaining this for people. Sartre identifies the 'classic' intellectual as someone who is schooled and practiced in particular (and hopefully innocent) disciplines that can contribute to sometimes unintended or unforeseen universal applications that could be potentially amoral. The intellectual framed by Sartre here with his guilty conscience could seek to petition or engage with the masses against atrocity to wash his hands of less desirable implications.
Billhicks8 Thank you for that helpful illumination. Can you please clarify how and to what style JPS id'd intellectualism from May 1968? I would appreciate that. I happened to be a student myself at that time (Journalism inc. Sociology) and my take on this is that up to then 'intellectuals' were educated/trained/in practical applications, whilst after May 1968 students "democratised" intellectualism so anyone could partake even without formal background ie. be as unstructured as they liked & refer or not (more often not) to established intellectuals to assert their views.
@@DD-xt6voI am also undertaking Journalism, as a first year undergraduate. I was not even aware of how revolutionary and significant the May 1968 higher education student protests were. Nor the joys of thinking and the gravity of Satre's ideological tenets. It's all very interesting.
@LVftw Widespread student protests were May 1969, as I only too well remember. I was a student myself then - of journalism - and when it was my turn to talk about what the papers were saying there were only pictures. Hardly even a headline. All I could say was that the pics were meant to speak for themselves. Maybe they did - but I was speechless!
The 1960's - what an interesting time to be a journalist in training and start taking a critical interest in global developments! I wonder how long after the events you were having your seminar, and how long it took the press to start publishing stories on the protests after they happened. Did you become a journalist? Which role and news sector do you specialise in? Might I ask what your personal industry perspectives are? I'm a journalist in training and this is all very interesting to me@@ddempsey9642
But what was that other "different" intellectual?
Thank you for sharing this.
Sartre says there is a constant contradiction between universal knowledge and the practical, particular usage of it. He says,
“He is an intellectual (the technician) when he discovers this contradiction in himself.”
“By seeing the difference between a universal political thought and behavior and the particular political thought and behavior, which a bourgeois government puts into action, he denounces the particular thought and politics of the bourgeois in the name of the universal. That is the classical conception of the intellectual.”
“So he is very pleased to have an unhappy conscience [Hegel] because that is what allows him to denounce, and so the classic intellectual becomes a great denunciator.”
He says the Hegelian unhappy conscience allows one to side with the proletariat by realizing the particular but, to put it in my own words, the technician of practical knowledge [proletariat] realizes his own possibility as an intellectual although he is constituted by such a contradiction. Sartre concludes that the intellectual as it is now is who [the proletariat] realizes the universal and strives for its application, that is, not as constituted by a contradiction but by a resolve. What is now singled out is the classical intellectual [bourgeois]; the universities and the professors, the power of knowledge in the hands of the few in a society where only few are rendered happy as a byproduct-in the given bourgeois ruled society in which all of this happens.
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@@hudiscool4186ha ha ha my feelings are also same lol he is talking too much shit
He was looking around for those crabs and lobsters
Does anyone here know of a full stream of the film this is from? Yet to find one which is leading me to give up hope on ever doing so.
This clip comes from the 1976 documentary "Sartre by Himself"
One must never forget that, give the failure of philosophy in the task of producing an adecuate theory of knowledge, all Sarte is doing, much like every philosopher before him, is speculating within the confines of the socio-intellectual structure that bore him.
Reading him, one quickly realizes his rhetorical intention. While he was a fine philosopher, I believe he was far more united with a literary cause than with one philosophical.
That's a weak and very abstract critique/judgement. Who does not speculate within the social and historical structures that bore them ? To what extent would philosophical thinking be more tied to those structures than other forms of thinking? In this video he tries actually to explain the link between the historical conditions of intellectual thought and its content.
This is an inaccurate portrayal of Sartre. Did he necessarily fail at completing something that didn't get labeled as a complete ethical groundwork, sure. But what sets him apart from one who just speculates on socio-intelectual structure is that he's specifically referring to "beingness" and what it means to be in the world with other beings.
He does talk about some socio political stuff, but that is because it is built into his discussion of beingness. If anything, I'd say he was more of a philosopher than a literary writer, my go-to reason is Being and Nothingness, it's an unfinished philosophical masterpiece.
Sartre, one of the greatest philosophers there ever was, and the man that looks and sounds like a Bond villain
You mean him working with Foucault?
@@zarathustra1471 no, I meant his general appearance and voice
I named my chameleon after Sartre.
The eyes never lie, do they?
A lot of philosophy students in this thread.
For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away.
@Guaguanco11 Hmmm, that's odd, because what he is saying makes sense to me. I'm not a stuffy intellectual, I go to community college. Maybe you should watch again and pay close attention to the subtitles. It DOES make sense. Sartre just doesn't flesh out the idea of the 'new intellectual' much because the video ends before he gets the chance. His concept of the classic intellectual is well established in this video. Surprisingly well established for such a short explanation, in my opinion.
Just because you think something ‘makes sense to you’, does not mean that it does make any objective sense or has any objective value. It is more likely that the mere rhythm of his voice and collection of words that he uttered triggered your loose conceptual associations to activate emotions that you find favourable. This is the general reason liberals and post modernists are drawn to Sartre and others like him. Not because of any objective sense, but resonance with their aberrated emotional and conceptual structures. For example, anyone of sound mind knows that communism is ridiculous and impossible, and yet there are hundreds of millions of low IQ people who like it because it resonates with their ‘kill the pepper who have more than me so that I can feel good and have what they had’ attitude. They’ll say it ‘makes sense’, but they lack the foundational psycho epistemological ability to even grasp the idea of things making sense. They are only agreeing on a rather dirty emotional level. Liberals will say this post doesn’t make sense, of course, but that is simply because the emotions I’m triggering are disfavour able to them. Loose emotional association is the only level at which they can operate, as their objective reasoning stopped as children. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
What i believe he is saying (breaking it into layman terms for ya) is the Genuine intellectual person finds patterns and contradictions within life that seem universal (probably a great observist and very analytical). He looks at the handful of certainty rather than the basket of wondrous possibilities (i.e. he get real!!!...with what he knows is TRUE and what is WISHFUL THINKING). Then there are the other 'intellectuals'...
Which...
@Guaguanco11 My own opinion of Sartre is that he was a political activist but not an intellectual. No doubt he held various academic posts, but I think a minimal requirement for being an intellectual is that one actually produces coherent ideas and gives reasons to justify them, and I doubt that Sartre ever did this. The irony is that if we were to do a public poll of most recognizable intellectuals of the 20th century, Sartre would be near the top of the list.
@buildingm Several years ago I tutored for a first-year course that spent 3 weeks on Sartre's philosophy. I read excerpts from B&N, plus supporting materials and lecture notes but couldn't discern any clear arguments in Sartre's work (nor could my students). Certainly the lecturer teaching that part of the course thought there were interesting arguments in his work, but when I put several questions to her asking for clarification on what Sartre meant by various terms I got incoherent answers!
@LennyBound that is such a good attitude man... world should be full of people like you.. but then again. there is in no way of knowing that if this decision was typical of yours
interviewer is Andre Gorz
man his tone of voice is so squirrely and Elmer Fudd sounding. didn't expect this
The fact that intellectualism became degrading and a service without any connotative gratitude, which is so very implicit with freedom, was a crux that missed a lot of people upon which we still feel it's scarred epistel today.
Oh let us transcend this state of affairs
@Eopyk An ellipsis is composed of three periods, not two.
You shouldn't be in the habit of ending a fully formed sentence with an ellipsis in the first place.
Absolument d'accord, l'intellectuel classique est un bourgeois, que ce soit un travailleur en usine ou un ingenieur...c'est l'engagement et la transition a la revolte qui mesure la grandeur de l'homme..
Ironique vue que Sartre lui même était un bourgeois.
Ha kou: Pas de tout.
Il est pas l'homme de la revolte, la revolte de bourgeoise annoie. 13eme arrindisment , a plage de Cap Ferrat. Vrai parisien dans les charcutteries..
@StefanMarkovski Wow, you deserve an award for your wittiness!
@lourak "Philosophically speaking," hmmm...then could you please elaborate on the juvenilia and arbitrary nature of Sartre's performance, as well as explaining why you feel he ought to have chosen the path of a pure logician? Thanks in advance.
@MarkMcGinn I've only read parts of B&N. Are you suggesting that people who find B&N intellectually inept might have a different experience reading the Critique of Dialectical Reason?
Can someone explain to me what exactly didhe he mean with the contradiction theory
When a worker who individually develops a skill, and use them to work for the state realises that the skills put into practise by the state affects the universal in a bad way he then signs petitions against the state using his skills as they like and blaming them for exploiting his work force. But when a musician wants the same rights he is being called and elitist and douchebag for not selling his work and soul.
what?
nothing but critical thinking of an idea
He looks so solemn
As defined by Jean-Paul Sartre, the turning of a classic intellectual.
Falling Down - Opening scene
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"Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but sometimes, playing a poor hand well." - Jack London
The Iron Heel by Jack London - Foreword
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Careful as we will, careful as we go.
Hi, in what year was this interview conducted?
Thanks
1976
At 2:45, they guy who asked the question is having this absurd expression on his face; ,"What in the hell did I ask to go through this absurd conversation?". I am feeling the same way trying to figure out what in the hell is he talking about .
He's talking about the contradictions an intellectual faces once he reaches his peak, once he sees the negative impact of his work in the world around him. He then tries to overcome that contradiction by being a little charitable and benevolent in the eyes of the people.
Classic example of all the billionaires being so charitable, not because they really want to, but because of the guilty conscience that, in a sense, forces them to be so.
@@justamoteofdust and what is with the ones he says were born after 1968?
@jonathancastro8487 he's saying that the classical intellectual who's basically nothing but a hypocritical person was singled out in the student movement in France just like they were attacked by students in Maoist China during the GPCR.
This is what the sound of someone disappearing up their own arse sounds like.
Where is this footage from?
@Claybear17 "Sartruh", but not so much pronunciation on the last vowel, i.e. not SartrUH but Sartra.
when this movie was filmed?
And who the interviewer?
Thank you.
I hate that Sartre said Camus was not incolved ninto philo. So they splitted l'amitie.
@EverettsVLOG
That is exactly what philosophy appears to be. Romanticism is the ripest fruit of philosophical endeavors. The Summit is protected.
It sound pretentious and difficult just because they take for granted basic concepts like hegelian unhappy consciusness and marxist role of the intellectuals.
Im not a philosophy nerd but with a basic education in my country I can grasp the meaning. Be humble and curious.
RIP Jean-Paul Sartre 1905 - 1980.
C'est exactement ce que Sartre voulait dire avec L'être et le néant: Tous le temps les gens essaient a être des intellectuels mais ils pensent a des choses qui n'existent pas, alors is vivent néant.
C'est vraiment matérial pour un nouveau Charlie Hébdo... mais, à tout à fait, ce n'est pas grave, aussi long que je fûme...
@Guaguanco11
Actually I think it could plausibly be misconstrued that way. Unfortunately some people do instantly dismiss things they don't understand, however your tone and fluency in expression at least convey someone more observant than this.
@TheKafkianProcess If I tried to read Gödel’s famous 1931 paper that proved the incompleteness theorem I probably wouldn’t understand it. Yet I would not classify it as incoherent babble. Instead I would readily admit that the failure was with me, and that if I was smarter, or concentrated harder, or read more background, I might get it. Most people who find Sartre incoherent are in the same position as me-they admit there are many things they don’t understand due to some failing on their part.
That was in response to EverettsVLOG.
It's fascinating to see how pretentious people can get.
@Guaguanco11 This experience was significant in forming my negative evaluation of Sartre’s philosophy and intellectual rigor. That you would use abusive ad hominems and appeals to authority in your criticism of my opinion is disappointing, but consistent with my expectations about the intellectual standards of those who find Sartre’s work appealing.
It is appealing.
Vedo una copia del Manifesto sulla scrivania dietro a Sartre!
His voice...
This man is a typical bourgeois intellectual.
@Guaguanco11 Sartre's Critique of Dialectical Reason is incoherent and without reason? You might want to give it a read before making comments like that.
@TheKafkianProcess (cont.) Hence your claim that we are egocentric people who classify everything we don’t understand as nonsense is false. Whatever mistake we might be making in our assessment of Sartre, it is not the mistake of inferring that Sartre is incoherent simply because we don’t understand him. This is so obvious that I wonder if your original comment was a serious attempt to criticize us or simply an outburst of empty rhetoric.
found it difficult to follow
Ça serait intéressant de réfléchir, sur c est question sur notre époque 2019, quelques est-ce quelqu’un intigend
...intigend. What does this word mean (1) in English (2) in your statement, which I think I understand up to that though I'm not proficient in French. Thank you....
I can relate.
2:48
Me after reading hegel
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This idea of the classic intellectual as denouncer is a thread of Godard's film Masculin Feminine. The film concentrates on this contradiction btw universal and particular application Sartre talks about...a bit depressing. Godard has a blip of philo pith in his films, not much, but interesting
I don't understand how Sartre can have this contempt for engineers etc but calls himself a communist.
This guy on 2:47 looks like Tom Kenny the voice of Spongebob.
Probably the most astute analysis of this video I've seen so far on this comment section.
@@rp1455 Hhahaha
it's called "jia bak eng eng bo dai ci zo" (Hokkien) , he has nothing better to do but to complicate stuff
toi et moi..
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@digitalheir I hear you
Hmmmm.... Let's be more practical for a second and see Michael in the new Nikita series on TV. He works of Division (Sector) which turns out to be more like Specter. He loses his vision of the work he is doing and comes to see his boss as his captor. The new is not an update of the same but rather an inversion of the previous. That which was the system has become its enemy because it is the logical extension of the control that it teaches not to be controlled. runningturtle87
I think that latter. @ ThekafkianProcess(ironical name for that comment... -.-) . Read Hegel(Phenomenology of spirit, there you can find unhappy consciousnesses) . and then you will totally understand this inchorent babble ;)
read it
Sartre looks and sounds like Gollum. But that's okay, because in his earlier years, Bertrand Russell looked liked Ted Bundy.
is he speaking to foucault?
What he means is what happened in May 68 in Paris was a selfish act of protest which lacked something very crucial to call anyone or anything intellectual, a universal thought. That is why he mentioned Vietnam. He questions; How much of what was happening in Paris on May 68 sought any type of resolution against American imperialism that was butchering millions of Vietnamese at the time. Tough but true.
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ANYONE SUGGESTS THE CONCISE MEANING OF 'UNHAPPY CONSCIENCE (BY HEGEL)' PLS?
basically what happens when an individual feels alienated and disillusioned from their society
Bill Gates feeling unhappy after realising that his intellectual work contributed to the immense inequality existing in the world and to the exploitation of millions of labourers.
Guilty conscience? Likely couldn't remember the common English phrase.
Inauthentic existence?
Self-DISsatisfied?
Regretful?
Revisionist?
@11pinrelay You used terms like jew phony and etc. I wonder what the seemingly anti-semitic rethotic is for ?
And you may not agree with Sartre but to call him a fraud ? That is stupid sorry.
It's not 100 times harder certainly. How do you explain what you see?
I point to a small factor, not a worldwide conspiracy. Consulting itself is a major industry. People make money selling know-how. Products are designed here, made with cheap labor elsewhere.
Of course such a system is 'artificial': caused by externalities from people in power acting in their self-interest or the national interest. I think your moralizing mentality is way more far fecthed.
Wouldnt Jean be a so called 2 ingerlectuall too then? Sorry im eu
Marx's concept of the 'alienation of labor' would entail too-high of wages for social classes in regard to others I would think. The problem with the global economy now however is wrong value theory about what supports the best life. In the rat race people go for the reward units like dollars, biscuits or a high chess rating as their god. Jacque Cousteau said mankind has about 200 years- I think its now more like 175.
Compensation and market labor values have interactive reciprocal functions.
Baha.
He reminds me of Yoda
...and its fucking ridiculous they focus on this POINTLESS shit in (my CA college) instead of (enter any other important thing here).
The way that the work intellectuals do interacts with and is influenced by various cultural and political forces is an interesting topic. Sociologists and philosophers of science have produced some solid work on this. However, Sartre's speech here is mostly meaningless babble - obscure talk that will seem profound to the intellectually naive but incoherent to everyone else.
yeah!! Hype of bourgeois in Paris!! Morons hich upper class rich kida entre Grand Paris!! They spreaded jazz like a cool thing for kids.
Babble!!! Continental Drifters, cool band but not sanirt for mind.
Maoist junk!!!
Rimbaud, Baudelaire truly against technique
jean-sol partre
Tartre comme l' appelait Céline.
K idk what he is even saying
In other words: most of "existentialism."
Delicious!
Je pensee Charlie Hebdo pas tres correct. Ironie est pas dire contra ratio!
@Guaguanco11 It's not meaningless babble...you're not trolling are you? haha
@LennyBound so your kantian huh
@11pinrelay Ehh your comment is anti-semitic nonsense..
@Guaguanco11 I've never read him, but that might just mean he was a shitty writer.
nomadic personality
he rejected noble prize
money is secondary
Bond villain!! Sartre was a cool thing of Les Marais of young rich parisian annoying kuds. He was cool writer less than a philo. The "nothing" argoument is very clever intuition for startin the contemporaneity. He was into Huysman kind of attirude but he understand the dandysm and La Grand Art was finish, some kind of loser dandy. Liser bohemiens after Baudelaire and Rimbaud. Jazzy meaningless at bars at Les Marais.
What a ridiculous, fatuous question. And what a windy answer!