You are very welcome! Plato is a very important philosopher and a great writer, but everyone needs a little help when they read him for the first time. I hope you enjoy your class!
Thank you, but the praise belongs to Plato. He's a fantastic writer. If you haven't had the chance yet, I recommend you read the 'Apology.' It's persuasive, dramatic, and even funny in places.
thank you for this. I hope there would also be something like this for The Republic. I have understand The Apology better because of this video than just reading.
The word "apology" DOES NOT mean "to apologise" in the modern sense. The word "logos" has a variety of meanings ranging from "reason" to "science" to "analysis." Socrates is not saying "sorry" but is giving his explanation of who he is and why he behaves the way he does. Nothing to do with contrition in the modern sense of the word.
This was awesome. Going to link to it for my class. The only ting that would make it better are subtitles that hold up to accessibility standards, so I will have to subtitle it on Amara. The bottom scroll was hysterical.
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy Well, if you have your script you can upload it to RUclips as subtitles and RUclips will automatically synch it. Just make sure that there is punctuation because that is required for the ADA. If there are videos I want to use that do not have subtitles there is a system called Amara.org in which you can type in the subtitles, but then the vid has to be viewed on the Amara page and it isn't ideal--so it is better if creators upload subtitles. One shortcut for Amara, though, is to use a site that saves off the subtitles that are auto-generated and then edit them for punctuation and fix problematic translations. Since I already generated the subtitles for these two videos I am happy to give you the file, but I am not sure how to upload a file to you on YT. You might be able to grab it from the amara links: amara.org/en/videos/R4xsjmcTZpNn/info/platos-apology-part-ii-socrates-is-guilty-what-options-does-socrates-have-now/ amara.org/en/videos/HRnB8hw5TS5O/info/the-apology-by-plato-the-trial-of-socrates-summary-of-charges-and-defense/ You might be able to download the subtitles (I'm not sure if that option appears for everybody or just the subtitler). I hope this helps.
@@popinjayackroyd4526 Thanks for the helpful information. I just updated the subtitles, so they read much better now. I'll update my other videos soon. There's still much to learn about RUclips!
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy No problem. Really glad to see this content out there. What are you using for software? I was making my own videos for classes for a while, but stopped making too many new ones because the quality of sources like Crash Course was hard to compete with as an amateur video editor.
@@popinjayackroyd4526 I absolutely understand. It's hard enough to keep up with teaching, grading and research. Making original content is very time consuming. I'm very thankful that I was actually given a sabbatical to work on these videos. I draw with Illustrator, then use Character Animator and Premiere Pro to bring it all together. Although I'm a philosopher, I have always had an interest in artistic endeavors. I started this project during Covid, as a positive distraction. I currently have half a dozen videos in the works. More to follow! Once again, thanks for your support.
Okay no, I will admit that I go back and edit my words to make sure they land well. It's mostly just typos that I fix (I usually write drunk), but I have to admit that I use things like meter, rhyme, alliteration, and repetition to ensure my words are appealing. My words are ALWAYS supported by reason, but I would be lying if I said I don't try to make my words sound good. I make a conscious effort to ensure that the things I write will sound good, od be fun to say, when spoken allowed. Reason is not the only tool use, and I cannot deny that.
Salute Socrates.A great soul who has shown humanity the.path we should treat for a long and lasting life based on simplicity and rejecting the absurdities we call God and religion .The only thing we must bear in mind is ,WHATEVER WE SOW WE REAP, AND CONTINUE TO DO GOOD WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN ..Human being is only the PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION. A WORD TO THE WISE PEOPLE .Thks.
He knew The Creators attributes but could not see his face. This makes him mention a singular source of Lordship as little as possible when saying "the gods" or the Divine wasn't sufficient to express itself. He believed in the State gods yet has no faith in them. Religion can limit a soul at times but he didn't make it an enemy. He has faith that his divine inspiration came from somewhere. Whether he obtained the language and concept to be able to comprehend and express "God", it matters not if he obtained these concepts from Proto-Persian Mazdaism, having skinned the Greek septuigent(forgive my spelling) or from observing the statusless alter to the unknown God that Greeks revered yet always left open ended just in case something more All-encompasing more worthy of our attention than a conventional God would someday reveal itself. No matter where he got it from his convictions on these issues still stand Immortalized
A lone human growing up among Martians would be just as divisive as I am. A lone human growing up among Martians would be just as wise as I am. When you're the only person not wearing pants, you'll notice something if the people of your world have pants stitched to their hips.
There is much here to love, not the least of which is the innovative method by which you introduce the public to the Apology and, by extension, Socratic philosophy. However, in the spirit of friendly dialogue, permit me to offer another (perhaps subversive) interpretation of Socrates' account of his friend's trip to the Oracle at Delphi. You paint the conventional picture which locates Socrates in a position of a victim of wrongful public opinion. But, there is another way to see this. After all, this particular Oracle is dedicated to Apollo, the god of, among other things, Truth. Upon hearing and then considering the words of the god of Truth, Socrates has two responses: first, he doesn't believe the god of truth; and, second, he decides to prove the god wrong, which I believe is something akin to rebellion or blasphemy, I'll let you decide on that. To put that in context, that would be like us questioning what Google, Fox News, MSNBC, or the news feed on your iPhone! One doesn't question; one hears and assents. But Socrates, ever the "wise man" is always prepared to question and challenge every doctrine and truth. And, as Nietzsche reminds us, there may be a kind of truthfulness that is so pure that it would destroy us and the very foundations of our society were we to follow its course. Is this really what you want? What's next? Will you be asking about "things in the sky and below the earth"? The gods are in the sky and in their benevolence they give legitimacy to the laws of Athens and the exercise of political power. How could we justify our wars, our slavery, our form of life, without an appeal to the gods? Socrates would have us depend upon the authority of reason. Yet, where can that lead us but to believe that the weaker argument is the stronger. Why just the other day I read that the Noble Prize in physics in 2022 was awarded to three scientists who showed us that the "universe is not locally real"! Can you believe it? What will these thinkers have us believe next? That atoms are cuttable, perhaps? Or maybe they'll tell us that our ancestors, from whom our great deme derive power, do not dwell below the earth! Why surely this Socrates must die? How can we nobles allow our children to follow such a man who so slyly teaches them to ask questions about justice, piety, goodness, and virtue? Who will work the fields and manage the oikos if not slaves? And how will we get slaves if our children start asking whether it is wise or just to pick-up shield and spear and fight against their fellow men? And now he even mocks our right to judge him by suggesting that we pay him to live and teach his dangerous doctrines! Death, I say! And so say we all! Pax Christi.
Atheism is indeed very strong in Ancient Athens. Euripides' tragedies, though mention the gods, do not show reverence to the gods. Nor do Aristophanes' satires.
I think Socrates' decision to stay was easy because he was confident he did nothing wrong. And, of course, he didn't want one action at the end of his life to contradict the teaching he had been giving for years. Thanks for the comment.
haha omg the rolling news are killing me "John Stuart Mill not at liberty to reject Utilitarianism" Descartes: "just another day living the dream" hahaha omg
It’d be more real to start with your report in the mindset of a person living in the reality of a world where everyone knows the origin story of the gods is actual fact. This one subtle but critical change to your production would enhance it … imho My criticism is hopefully taken as constructive, I am an avid searcher of material like this and this is always the flaw I find with most of academia & thus on to content creators.. Today’s mindset thinks it knows more truth than at previous times, so can’t help distancing itself from the zeitgeist and commenting on how at that time that’s how it was, well that’s actually the problem. Call it respecting the integrity of previous intellectual giants.. give them their due by embracing fully their position.. now that would be a video that’d get serious traction.. in my book at least. 🖖
I don't use petty rhetorical tricks. The televangelist and politician use rhetorical tricks. I use logic. I present things is such a way that conclusions are unavoidable. I'd call myself a mathematician before I call myself a philosopher. My way is proof, not persuasion.
And yeah, you people did use me as a spy, so get fucked. I don't besmirch what some powers had to do in the face of the oppression wrought by capitalism. I talk often about the NAP, and the capitalists are the aggressor in this case. I think I am permitted to speak for the Romani (maybe not all, but some) when I say they want the same thing as me: to be left the fuck alone. They tried to kill me, they probably killed JFK, but what the fuck else are you gonna do when your only choice is kill or be destroyed? You talk about leftists pushing their lifestyle on people, but you cunts want prayer in school? Why do we all have to believe the same things? It's a fundamental fact of logic that it is impossible to know everything. Just fucking leave people alone. (I can't die. No sweat off my back. You owe my grandma though)
Bless whoever's idea it was to create this video. It's super helpful and definitely explains all aspects of these things perfectly.
So glad you found it helpful. That was the goal!
Nothing can be perfectly explained. The efficiency and accuracy an explanation holds is going to be determined subjective in the eye of the beholder.
This is so helpful as someone taking a philosophy class rn. Thank you
You are very welcome! Plato is a very important philosopher and a great writer, but everyone needs a little help when they read him for the first time. I hope you enjoy your class!
Well done, Mike! Thanks for making me a part of it!
Thank you! I really appreciate all you did to make this video - editing and adding to the script, giving your voice, and encouraging me throughout.
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Thank you so much for creating this video! This made conceptualizing the material way easier!
You are most welcome! I'm glad you like it.
Totally made everything feel so real. Amazing work guys!
Thanks. Glad you liked it! Make sure to check out our other videos.
Amazing content, easy to follow and a unique way to present ideas!
Thank you! I'm working hard now on other videos now, including videos on Kierkegaard, Marx and Aquinas.
This is amazing, I'm blown away with how digestible the information was.
Thank you, but the praise belongs to Plato. He's a fantastic writer. If you haven't had the chance yet, I recommend you read the 'Apology.' It's persuasive, dramatic, and even funny in places.
Man, this is so creative. I love it.
Thank you! It was fun to make, and I'm glad you like it.
Thanks you're the best! Helped me out so much in class and the quizzes
Wonderful! The Apology is one of my favorites. Glad to hear it helped!
“Heraclitus: I didn’t not step into the river!” Lmao , good one
Thankyou so much for this video! It helped me out a lot!
So glad you liked it. Thanks for your kind words!
Thanks.. this is going to help me in my test ....very much appreciated
Glad it has helped you understand a masterpiece. Good luck on your exam!
I love this, it makes it so much more enjoyable and easy to understand
Great! I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for your support!
Thank you so much! It was a very interesting video. Love and respect from Pakistan
Thank you very much for you kind words!
thank you for this. I hope there would also be something like this for The Republic. I have understand The Apology better because of this video than just reading.
Wonderful! Thank you for your very kind comment.
Awesome video!
Oh my God the news ticker below nearly made me choke from laughter 😂
amazing work. helps give insight opposed to reading, which can become trite & drab.
would love to see some jung videos. camus also.
Glad to hear you found the video helpful and interesting. Great suggestions too!
HEY THANK YOU FOR THIS ! I have my test today and this is an awesome review!
Great! Let me know you do on the exam. Good Luck!
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy I JUST FINISHED taking it online AND I PASSED THANK YOU ! 🙌🙌 video was entertaining and touched on all the key points!
@@nissanzenkiboy Well done! Thanks for sharing the good news!
The word "apology" DOES NOT mean "to apologise" in the modern sense. The word "logos" has a variety of meanings ranging from "reason" to "science" to "analysis." Socrates is not saying "sorry" but is giving his explanation of who he is and why he behaves the way he does. Nothing to do with contrition in the modern sense of the word.
Absolutely!
The breaking news😂😂 you guys are so creative
This was awesome. Going to link to it for my class. The only ting that would make it better are subtitles that hold up to accessibility standards, so I will have to subtitle it on Amara. The bottom scroll was hysterical.
Thanks for your support. Glad you liked the scroll! Can you tell me more about working with subtitles?
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy Well, if you have your script you can upload it to RUclips as subtitles and RUclips will automatically synch it. Just make sure that there is punctuation because that is required for the ADA.
If there are videos I want to use that do not have subtitles there is a system called Amara.org in which you can type in the subtitles, but then the vid has to be viewed on the Amara page and it isn't ideal--so it is better if creators upload subtitles.
One shortcut for Amara, though, is to use a site that saves off the subtitles that are auto-generated and then edit them for punctuation and fix problematic translations.
Since I already generated the subtitles for these two videos I am happy to give you the file, but I am not sure how to upload a file to you on YT.
You might be able to grab it from the amara links: amara.org/en/videos/R4xsjmcTZpNn/info/platos-apology-part-ii-socrates-is-guilty-what-options-does-socrates-have-now/
amara.org/en/videos/HRnB8hw5TS5O/info/the-apology-by-plato-the-trial-of-socrates-summary-of-charges-and-defense/
You might be able to download the subtitles (I'm not sure if that option appears for everybody or just the subtitler).
I hope this helps.
@@popinjayackroyd4526 Thanks for the helpful information. I just updated the subtitles, so they read much better now. I'll update my other videos soon. There's still much to learn about RUclips!
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy No problem. Really glad to see this content out there.
What are you using for software? I was making my own videos for classes for a while, but stopped making too many new ones because the quality of sources like Crash Course was hard to compete with as an amateur video editor.
@@popinjayackroyd4526 I absolutely understand. It's hard enough to keep up with teaching, grading and research. Making original content is very time consuming. I'm very thankful that I was actually given a sabbatical to work on these videos. I draw with Illustrator, then use Character Animator and Premiere Pro to bring it all together. Although I'm a philosopher, I have always had an interest in artistic endeavors. I started this project during Covid, as a positive distraction. I currently have half a dozen videos in the works. More to follow! Once again, thanks for your support.
this so so helpful- thank you!!
You're so welcome!
Nicely done Mike! Great idea.
Thanks, Tammy! I hope my students (and maybe others) will find it useful - and if I am lucky, maybe a little amusing too.
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy And I wouldn't be quick to discard this format. Very Stephen Colbert.
Wow this was amazing, and I’m going to show it to my young nieces one day.
Awesome! Thanks. I hope they enjoy it!
great video
Many thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Good job, Mike Continue your talents!
Thank you very much!
Helpful!
So glad you found it helpful. Thank you for support!
Heya just a quick note, apologia doesn't mean apology like we know it, as in feeling regret, it just means a defence of one's opinion
Okay no, I will admit that I go back and edit my words to make sure they land well. It's mostly just typos that I fix (I usually write drunk), but I have to admit that I use things like meter, rhyme, alliteration, and repetition to ensure my words are appealing.
My words are ALWAYS supported by reason, but I would be lying if I said I don't try to make my words sound good. I make a conscious effort to ensure that the things I write will sound good, od be fun to say, when spoken allowed.
Reason is not the only tool use, and I cannot deny that.
Excellent!
Thanks, Pat! You know, now that I think of it, you remind me a lot of Socrates. But I'm sure you get that all the time!
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy hahahahaaaa
Salute Socrates.A great soul who has shown humanity the.path we should treat for a long and lasting life based on simplicity and rejecting the absurdities we call God and religion .The only thing we must bear in mind is ,WHATEVER WE SOW WE REAP, AND CONTINUE TO DO GOOD WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN ..Human being is only the PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION. A WORD TO THE WISE PEOPLE .Thks.
He knew The Creators attributes but could not see his face. This makes him mention a singular source of Lordship as little as possible when saying "the gods" or the Divine wasn't sufficient to express itself. He believed in the State gods yet has no faith in them. Religion can limit a soul at times but he didn't make it an enemy. He has faith that his divine inspiration came from somewhere. Whether he obtained the language and concept to be able to comprehend and express "God", it matters not if he obtained these concepts from Proto-Persian Mazdaism, having skinned the Greek septuigent(forgive my spelling) or from observing the statusless alter to the unknown God that Greeks revered yet always left open ended just in case something more All-encompasing more worthy of our attention than a conventional God would someday reveal itself. No matter where he got it from his convictions on these issues still stand Immortalized
so helpful
I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks for your support.
Cool!
Are there better forms of law me no like this law that gives death for philosophy?
Telling the truth is as offensive in 2023 as it was in ancient Athens. The more things change, the more they stay the same
so much investment on the graphics but cant even get a yeti microphone smh
I'm glad to hear you like the graphics!
Socrates' defence was : 'The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living'. Thank you, Socrates.
'Atheist' mispelled at 2:26
Thanks for the careful read!
A lone human growing up among Martians would be just as divisive as I am. A lone human growing up among Martians would be just as wise as I am.
When you're the only person not wearing pants, you'll notice something if the people of your world have pants stitched to their hips.
Very helpful but a little too long
There is much here to love, not the least of which is the innovative method by which you introduce the public to the Apology and, by extension, Socratic philosophy. However, in the spirit of friendly dialogue, permit me to offer another (perhaps subversive) interpretation of Socrates' account of his friend's trip to the Oracle at Delphi. You paint the conventional picture which locates Socrates in a position of a victim of wrongful public opinion. But, there is another way to see this. After all, this particular Oracle is dedicated to Apollo, the god of, among other things, Truth. Upon hearing and then considering the words of the god of Truth, Socrates has two responses: first, he doesn't believe the god of truth; and, second, he decides to prove the god wrong, which I believe is something akin to rebellion or blasphemy, I'll let you decide on that. To put that in context, that would be like us questioning what Google, Fox News, MSNBC, or the news feed on your iPhone! One doesn't question; one hears and assents. But Socrates, ever the "wise man" is always prepared to question and challenge every doctrine and truth. And, as Nietzsche reminds us, there may be a kind of truthfulness that is so pure that it would destroy us and the very foundations of our society were we to follow its course. Is this really what you want? What's next? Will you be asking about "things in the sky and below the earth"? The gods are in the sky and in their benevolence they give legitimacy to the laws of Athens and the exercise of political power. How could we justify our wars, our slavery, our form of life, without an appeal to the gods? Socrates would have us depend upon the authority of reason. Yet, where can that lead us but to believe that the weaker argument is the stronger. Why just the other day I read that the Noble Prize in physics in 2022 was awarded to three scientists who showed us that the "universe is not locally real"! Can you believe it? What will these thinkers have us believe next? That atoms are cuttable, perhaps? Or maybe they'll tell us that our ancestors, from whom our great deme derive power, do not dwell below the earth! Why surely this Socrates must die? How can we nobles allow our children to follow such a man who so slyly teaches them to ask questions about justice, piety, goodness, and virtue? Who will work the fields and manage the oikos if not slaves? And how will we get slaves if our children start asking whether it is wise or just to pick-up shield and spear and fight against their fellow men? And now he even mocks our right to judge him by suggesting that we pay him to live and teach his dangerous doctrines! Death, I say! And so say we all! Pax Christi.
Atheism is indeed very strong in Ancient Athens. Euripides' tragedies, though mention the gods, do not show reverence to the gods. Nor do Aristophanes' satires.
he had friends who told him to flee Athens, he did have a choice. old hard headed man. what choice did he have?
I think Socrates' decision to stay was easy because he was confident he did nothing wrong. And, of course, he didn't want one action at the end of his life to contradict the teaching he had been giving for years. Thanks for the comment.
haha omg the rolling news are killing me "John Stuart Mill not at liberty to reject Utilitarianism" Descartes: "just another day living the dream" hahaha omg
I'm happy to hear you like them. We had fun writing them. My favorite lines are the ones about the trolley accidents in Oxford.
@@FirstPersonPhilosophy I did love that one as well - I might be stealing some of these for the philosophy club social
@@carolyongqichen2499 I would be honored! And please share my videos and the channel with members of the club.
the corruption of the young is happening today too
Sounds like the JCS voice actor
I’m sure this guy won’t be convicted.
And I'm gonna say it, AA has done more harm than good.
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Get rid of money and land hoarding, and corruption disappears.
this is sick
in a good way i mean
Thanks. Glad you like it. The second part is coming out in a day or two.
the socratics is the stupidest topic to choose .. take it just to put it into the western timeline .. overcome that stuff .. fast fastly
i am the modern socrates
It’d be more real to start with your report in the mindset of a person living in the reality of a world where everyone knows the origin story of the gods is actual fact.
This one subtle but critical change to your production would enhance it … imho
My criticism is hopefully taken as constructive, I am an avid searcher of material like this and this is always the flaw I find with most of academia & thus on to content creators..
Today’s mindset thinks it knows more truth than at previous times, so can’t help distancing itself from the zeitgeist and commenting on how at that time that’s how it was, well that’s actually the problem.
Call it respecting the integrity of previous intellectual giants.. give them their due by embracing fully their position.. now that would be a video that’d get serious traction.. in my book at least. 🖖
That is exactly what I did.
I don't use petty rhetorical tricks. The televangelist and politician use rhetorical tricks. I use logic. I present things is such a way that conclusions are unavoidable. I'd call myself a mathematician before I call myself a philosopher. My way is proof, not persuasion.
I do not believe in God. Not at all. If the gods have a problem with me, I will accept rapier at noon any time.
And yeah, you people did use me as a spy, so get fucked. I don't besmirch what some powers had to do in the face of the oppression wrought by capitalism. I talk often about the NAP, and the capitalists are the aggressor in this case.
I think I am permitted to speak for the Romani (maybe not all, but some) when I say they want the same thing as me: to be left the fuck alone. They tried to kill me, they probably killed JFK, but what the fuck else are you gonna do when your only choice is kill or be destroyed?
You talk about leftists pushing their lifestyle on people, but you cunts want prayer in school? Why do we all have to believe the same things? It's a fundamental fact of logic that it is impossible to know everything. Just fucking leave people alone.
(I can't die. No sweat off my back. You owe my grandma though)