I missed it but you can now ride torrent against the Elden Beast. Also recent items is an option you can turn on in the settings. EDIT: Sorry if this was a bit scuffed. I was learning this all in real time ELDEN BEAST TORRENT GAMEPLAY- ruclips.net/video/hl5TaQs41pc/видео.html&ab_channel=Youwy
Good, I'll go forward with my Int build. Moonlight nerf isn't too bad, still useful for pew pew lasers. Moonveil, couldn't care less. How bad is the Terra Magick nerf?
Wait a f**ING minute you can summon torrent against elden beast!!!? wait, why after 2 years and a half? this should have been a day one feature Is this even real?
@@seamenfactory6360 would be nice jf there was a pvp only changes list, so that stuff that isn't broken in pve but is in pvp could be modified without affecting the pve experience...
@@unaffectedbycardeffects9152damn you all so clueless, yes there is a separated filter that only applies to pvp, devs just decided to nerf for both pve and pvp
I think poise generation speed means how fast hyper armor kicks in with an attack so for Bloody Slash as example, it will take longer till hyper armor activates when you start the attack.
Nah you can 1 shot all bosses at level 1 still with the proper buff stacking, nerfs really don’t do anything at all if you know how to do it. TitusActual has some videos on it pretty sure.
Big oof your wife is a casual. I’d only marry someone who can do RL1, fists only, no armor, no dodging, blindfolded, all controls inverted, on a dance pad.
I was using that weapon for like half of my last playthrough. Every time I used the skill, I hated how slow it was because I got knocked out of it by most enemies. I couldn’t understand why everybody liked it so much. I was using it with a BUG the whole time????
Agreed. I used the weapon recently and lack of Hyperarmor was my only complaint. Will need to check and see if the Hyperarmor activates at the beginning or towards the end of the animation.
@@MetalHev Well I suppose it means that these seals now get to the good bit of scaling earlier now. In practice that is a buff, especially golden order seal, since it had too slow scaling before.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 see, I thought it was that too, but apparently the scaling difference is 0 at base, 2 at 45, then 0 at 99 again. There's no actual difference in scaling speed, for the clawmark seal at least.
@@abrahamrangel2326 Nah, something like Lion’s Claw is infinitely more busted, and that didn’t get nerfed. Faster animation, insane damage, infinite hyperarmor etc. There’s plenty of other things they could’ve done to improve the game rather than nerfing that weapon
>load into game for first time in over a year >have an intelligence build >decide to use dark moon greatsword and moonveil since they're already upgraded >wake up next day >they're both nerfed
Was going in with an INT/FTH build with Sword of Night and Flame, Prince of Death Staff and Golden Order Seal. One untouched and the other 2 got buffs, life is good
Offense perfumes need a charge attack like the long distance ones the enemies use and such. A great idea with perfumes , but they never went anywhere with it..... They buffed all whips except Urumi FWIW.... Whips need a strangle Crit/backstab animation.
@@pkuvincentsuIs the scaling of any of the staffs/seals buffed to give them better scaling in the early/mid game but done in euch a way not to affect the incant scaling with int/faith at 80?
@@DextahPC I think the scaling change is even less noticable early/mid game. For my mid-game str/faith build, the clawmark seal went from 194 to 195. I really don't get this change lol.
Bro nerfing any pve stuff from the base game makes no sense lol it’s been two years. Maybe focus on improving the stuff that needed buffs years ago so people have even more build variety instead of nerfing stuff
They definitely meant to say decrease crouch attack speed of serpent hunter. As a pvper who sees this weapon everyday the crouch attack you showed is slower and it is now in line with UGS Edit: also im kinda salty they nerfed thundercloud form. It was going to be my dlc weapon. Whats crazier is that they think stance break on thundercloud form is too op by the ordovis greatsword isn’t? Kinda crazy tbh. You can literally get more stance damage and actually damage spamming square off for less fp then thundercloud form now.
“Never using that again” that sums up exactly why nerfs are such a bad thing, because he’s right, Fromsoft has a bad habit of nerfing the exact reason why people use something and making it useless. Nobody is using glintblade phalanx for damage, cause it’s damage sucks, it was for the poise breaking, if it doesn’t break poise anymore, then no one will ever use it again, so now it’s existence in the game is pointless.
yeah it seems like thats the main issue. they nerf the fuck out of the exact reason you use the thing, but never buff anything else on it to make it worth anymore. like you said, glintblade phalanx is dog ass now and will never be used. Same with flame of the redmanes being shit.
Can we push fromsoftware to release a boss rush and make Elden Ring perfect? They already fixed the logo screen and the elden beast fight, a boss rush is the only thing missing now really
Poise generation means how long it takes for poise to kick in when you are using attacks. So pretty much hyperarmor Also, as a pvper this is one of the best balance patches of all time period.
Very disappointed with some of these nerfs mostly for the pve side of things it’s annoying that certain weapons get nerfed because of pvp and that usually leads to them being useless against the pve enemies
They can separate nerfs to be pvp exclusive, devs are not that clueless those weapons were skilless crutches and got what they deserved, time to get good
These actually make sense though, nerfing weapons so that instead of having to make all the dlc bosses roided up to account for op ash of war spam from base game stuff
@@alexberube5269The problem is. Most of these changes are boring. The weapons went from being a bit too good. To outright bad in some cases. More of the changes should have been like DMGS, where there was a buff to compensate. Or be like.... I think SF4 Ryu? Where his Heavy Shoryuken got nerfed to have no invincibility frames. But the high damage was kept. This way, players still had a VERY powerful hard read option. But had to think when to use it. But.... Most of the weapons got nerfed into oblivion. And thus, the cycle continues.... More cheese strats will be found, squashed, repeat rinse until all the weapons are weak. (And yet, there's STILL an objective best build.)
@@ToasterDsGNot really there’s 0 point to using the normal attacks usually. The beams do insane damage and stagger from range. You can kill most everything before even getting into melee range.
So they nerfed the cheese builds. Perma-stunning bosses isn't very engaging, and comet azur is even less engaging. Even though the dlc bosses won't let you set up the comet azur with their hyper aggression, it seems they don't want mohg to be trivialized.The nerfs make sense as it'd ruin the new content, and there's more reason to use something new.
I think pvp needs to use one set spot as they join in because people will just run run run and it should be a time limit also because I couldn’t do anything for at least 30 minutes because of trolling
Powerstance twinblades are probably better now. They both got big hits. No knockdown for blasphemous blade, and you have to get close with Dark Moon now. Jelly fish is also a part of the dark moon build, so it got 5% worse.
Quite many bosses didn't get knocked down by Taker's Flame anyway and the skill didn't stance break bosses that often even before the nerf. Malenia cheese is definitely much weaker now since she got easily knocked down from Taker's Flame. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if DLC has the strongest weapons.
@@Ylikollikas the knockdown is mostly useful against Mobs its true. It is probably still close to as good against bosses. Dark moon greatsword might be worse than it now for bosses though.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 Honestly seems like the nerf was solely so Malenia wasn't constantly knocked down by Taker's Flames, and tbh, I'm fine with that lol.
i cant believe all those weapons like serpent bone blade still arent infusible I literally could not care less about all these little nerfs when so many weapons are basically unusable cuz they cant be infused
Wow. All our favorite weapons got scuffed and kicked. I guess I can see what FS was after; they made the worst weapons and skills a little better, and made the best worse, but it still hurts. We'll just have to see how this all works out. I pray to Michael Zaki this makes the game better, not worse.
I believe it is only in the later new game + iterations that the enemy scaling really ramps up. NG+ might be the best way to play, because you will be higher level, and get more talismans, and weapons from base game. Like you can now using dual scavengers curved sword for example.
Nerfing the Blasphemous blade is a good idea. It's so tempting to just use it through the whole game. I kept myself from upgrading it on my last playthrough so I wouldn't turn to it when I was having trouble
Poise generation speed 14+ poise/s per second after not dealing damage for 6-8 seconds. "Decreased the poise generation speed" probability means it reduces the amount out of poise a combatant can regenerate
From what I understand, they made the late scaling a bit better for it so you'll see big gains on high Int and Faith stats. Given what Youwy said about Golden Order seal, they might have made the late scaling better on all dual catalysts so actually dedicated Int/Faith (or other dual stat catalyst user) builds will probably use Dual Catalysts much better than users that are less dedicated.
Holy damage is too powerful against end game bosses. Lets nerf one of the few weapons that can still be used against Maliketh and Radabeast if you're a faith build and not be ass against them. Gee From, thanks for that.
Yeah, i planned to use longhorn with my faith build with bb for fire resist enemies.. bb is still good but longhorn is dead now( no good holy weapon left
@@dimitrischampanski2905 what's bb? Blasphemous blade? I don't get why From hates Faith so much. It was already the worst element to use mid to late game and there were only a few weapons that were viable. Blasphemous got nerfed but at least it still has the same damage. Sure the longhorn had a ot of poise damage (if all bubbles hit) so i can see nerfing that. But from the looks of it, its AoW damage was halved. You already had to wear a stupid helm to make it good, and it was mainly really good against big enemies. Against smaller enemies most of the bubbles missed and it didn't do that much damage. Now it's going to be terrible against regular enemies and mid against big bosses. And useless against Black Cat and Radabeasti. The AoW barely did 2k damage as is, now what 1k damage against them? And why now of all times? It's been the same for 10 patches and 2 plus years. Well, there's still a few good options left but I don't even want to mention them. All i can say is, DLC better have some good faith/str weapons. Guess it's time to put away my doot-doot horn after 14NG cycles and change from bard class to paladin.
Switch to incantations instead. You have catch flame for pretty much every boss, pest threads for elemental resistant bosses, ancient dragon lightning strike for big enemies, frenzy burst for NPC invaders like Gideon. These options currently carry against every boss.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I know they do, but spells are different from weapons. There's still a few other weapons that are really good too. Longhorn wasn't the only good faith weapon. But there's not many and now it's nerfed to hell. Moonlight GS was nerfed too (and buffed as well), but only the poise damage of the projectile, not how much damage it does. That's what From should have done here. Nerf the poise damage of the bubbles, but leave the damage alone or decrease it by 10%-20% at most. Looks like the damage was almost halved on it. Holy damage was already the weakest type (not Faith options like fire or physical incantations) and one of 4, maybe 5 good holy weapons is mid now at best and probably terrible against higher resistance enemies. And it's not like it was a PVP monster that needed nerfs like dual spears and other poking weapons. It's a purely PvE weapon and who cares what it does in PvE? It's not affecting other players. You don't see it included on a lot of OP weapons lists. I'm just bummed because I really like it and have used it a lot, but looks like I'll be switching to something else now.
Whole reason people wanted PvP exclusive changes was so they didn't screw with PvE players' favorite things. Yet they still do these garbage PvE nerfs.
we needed this update three months ago, so we could adjust but no. now its "go through some of the hardest content weve made with newly nerfed builds."
Saw this coming, made sure that my build didn’t rely on anything meta or extremely powerful. Fromsoft isn’t going to take 2 years to build something challenging and fun just to let you cheese it like you did the base game.
I was using envoys longhorn and blasphemous blade, they nerfed both, so sad. Bubble shower was op but now it feels useless, it does less damage than a jump attack, at least on normal enemies. not sure if against a big enemy more bubbles will hit and do more damage, I need to test.
They're only useful against giant enemies now, as you say, more bubbles = More Damage. Sadly, they don't break posture anymore.. well, at least not as fast. But still somehow viable against big foes.
Idk who these companies are but fromsoft clearly didn't do it here. There is still fucking PLENTY of broken shit in this game. And fromsoft games outside of PvP are way more fun with reasonable weapons
@@wonderofu1603 Legit after the game design fiasco that is Elden Ring i was ready to write off FromSoft for good. Only the arrival of AC6 postponed that..
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I missed it but you can now ride torrent against the Elden Beast. Also recent items is an option you can turn on in the settings.
EDIT: Sorry if this was a bit scuffed. I was learning this all in real time
ELDEN BEAST TORRENT GAMEPLAY- ruclips.net/video/hl5TaQs41pc/видео.html&ab_channel=Youwy
was about to comment that u missed that💀
Long overdue lol
Yeeeeesssssss! Shit Boss. 😂😂😂
finally, they fixed the game
Really OMG 😱😱😱
Fromsoft nerfing all the op weapons to cook us in the dlc is such a fromsoft thing.
Excellent
Skill issue
Luckily for me the dark moon greatsword only got a slight nerf that instead incentives using it at a closer range. Ranni enjoyers stay strong!
yup GID GUD SCRUB
@@Zefiro151dark moon greatsword will always be good no matter what
WE CAN FINALLY USE TORRENT AGAINST ELDEN BEAST
Why did it take then 2 years and half to add something as simple as that? I still think this is a prank
@@lordofcinder8884that’s actually a crazy change
@@lordofcinder8884 ngl Im so salty at the longhorn and dragon king cragblade nerfs
Where is it mentioned.
WOOOOO
Lmaooo FromSoft said “if you think you’re about to ignore all these new weapons to run through the DLC with your favorites, think again”
Lmao
Good way to drive up sales I guess
Idk man, there are alot of buffs in these patch notes
@@Alt0001how does this drive up sells if you play Elden ring but not getting dlc its cuz u broke not bc you don’t want it everyone wants to play dlc
I don't think this has anything to do with driving sales
They nerfed a bunch of the best weapons but decided death's poker and wing of astel are just fine. Crazy
Good, I'll go forward with my Int build.
Moonlight nerf isn't too bad, still useful for pew pew lasers.
Moonveil, couldn't care less.
How bad is the Terra Magick nerf?
video shows it is reduced from 35% to 25%
My lord of death build is safe
Lmaoooo I’m dual wielding wing of astel for dlc for sure now
lol I was stressing that they were gunna nerf wing of astel poise
Wait a f**ING minute you can summon torrent against elden beast!!!? wait, why after 2 years and a half? this should have been a day one feature
Is this even real?
😂😂😂
These mfs probably forgot😂😂
Better late than never i guess
I probably did all builds i was interested in doing to prepare for the dlc like???😭😭😭
I honestly think they just forgot to enable it and have been too embarrassed to admit it lmao
"Fixed a bug in The Queen's Black Flame Skill that did not apply poise when using this skill."
We're back?
We're so back!
We are indeed
yea dude so insane im probably gonna use this thing the whole dlc now
God hunting is back on the menu!
Bro my OG build is back
Who the fuck looked at dragon kings cragblade and thought "yeah this needs to be nerfed"
I was about to finish a run with it...
And they nerfed gransax as well, which was my secondary
It's ridiculous in pvp
@@seamenfactory6360 would be nice jf there was a pvp only changes list, so that stuff that isn't broken in pve but is in pvp could be modified without affecting the pve experience...
@@unaffectedbycardeffects9152damn you all so clueless, yes there is a separated filter that only applies to pvp, devs just decided to nerf for both pve and pvp
@@abrahamrangel2326 no shit, the argument was that there was no reason to, you dunce
Lmao, they don't want people to one-shot Mohg with commet azur to get into the DLC for free
Too late
Why not? They still paid for it. If they wanna do that and then get smacked in the dlc. Let them
@@sheltondmello8031 no, fight the boss
For free? I mean we paid $40 for the DLC😂
@@leonardo9259womp womp. i bought the game and ill kill bosses however j want
I think poise generation speed means how fast hyper armor kicks in with an attack so for Bloody Slash as example, it will take longer till hyper armor activates when you start the attack.
I had to scroll way too far to find this. It seems obvious to me that's what it means.
Gonna miss Envoy’s Longhorn 😔
Me too. The nerf is almost unforgivable.
Me too man😢
It's a good thing, this will help change up the PVE meta. We will always have our memories.
@@nunchuksteev9811Hope they didn't nerf it like they nerfed rivers.
Hope it atleast does as much as Ordovis Greatsword.
It's a boring play style anyway
Stonesword key usage tier list when?
He isn't Rusty
I think you miss the grass tower list tho @@dux5525
@@dux5525 he still likes to yap though
@@peteybakedziti8908 ayee. I guess you lot got something in common then.
@@peteybakedziti8908goldfish attention span
"poise generation speed" is almost certainly how quickly your hyper armor kicks in
Sounded pretty straightforward to me
@@10pcWingshe got it when it said increase then was lost when it said decrease lol
@alexandersantana4970 lmao yeah he was pretty flustered
My other thought is it could be how fast your poise regenerates.
Other game patch notes: "dang this weapon is unusable now"
Elden ring patch notes: "dang this weapon can't kill bosses in 2 hits now"
Pretty much. I feel like a lot of people are overreacting to the nerfs, particularly to the faith weapons.
And yet so many people are bitching and moaning about it instead of using other weapons plus whatever the dlc releases
Seriously, Placi gets melted from two button presses while you just stand there and people are surprised it got nerfed? He's an endgame boss lol
Nah you can 1 shot all bosses at level 1 still with the proper buff stacking, nerfs really don’t do anything at all if you know how to do it. TitusActual has some videos on it pretty sure.
@@Maskeroff. its unneeded pve nerf, especially the nerfs to actual utility, such as taker's flame knockdown.
My Wife is going to be so pissed off they nerfed her beloved Blasphemous Blade
Damage and heal still op. Just no knockdowns
I love B-Blade, but I'm more sad they nerfed the poise damage on the DMGS projectile and gave it to the sword itself
TF, I’m using it for the first time right now. Of course
@@simonjohnson3424yeah i planned to go bb faith or dmgs but now i will probably just go night comet loss staff because its still untouched and op
Big oof your wife is a casual. I’d only marry someone who can do RL1, fists only, no armor, no dodging, blindfolded, all controls inverted, on a dance pad.
nerfing glintblade phalanx' poise damage lmfao why would anybody use it if it doesn't do poise damage 🗿
Exactly. Poor Rogier is never going to see his sword carry on his legacy anymore.
Just depends if they gave it the flame of the redmane treatment.
Phalanx was pretty stupid tho
Cuz ppl use to cheese with it. Im actually fine with that changed
If you don't like scrolling through your spell list to find phalanx, putting it on your sidearm is pretty convenient still.
it completly stalled pvp, you couldnt really agress someone if they kept spamming it
also it broke 80 stance with two casts lmao
Godslayer gs back to S tier 🗣️🗣️🔥
Such a sick weapon, it really deserves to be strong!
Ik it would be buffed 🔥🔥🗣
Us gsgs users have been opressed for too long.
I was using that weapon for like half of my last playthrough. Every time I used the skill, I hated how slow it was because I got knocked out of it by most enemies. I couldn’t understand why everybody liked it so much. I was using it with a BUG the whole time????
Still wouldn’t use it over malikeths blade personally
That one fix for Godslayer’s Greatsword is beautiful.
Agreed. I used the weapon recently and lack of Hyperarmor was my only complaint. Will need to check and see if the Hyperarmor activates at the beginning or towards the end of the animation.
Exactly!
5:38 they mean that those weapons now do more stamina damage against blockers.
yeah, I completely misread that
Hyper armor for GSGS is back!
👍
Faith Chads lost Bubble, but gained the godslayer. Not sure that is a worthwhile trade.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I just took my GS and crushed some bosses. Satisfaction.
👍
@@BlackFlameMonk Does it scales with AR, or Faith?
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I think all AoWs scale with FAI.
@@BlackFlameMonk I mean don't you hit with the weapon? Maybe I am wrong about this
The increased incant scaling is absolutely pathetic. My clawmark seal went from 280 at the 45/45 cap to 282. Fucking wow.
Maybe It is much better with high levels of investment
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 nope. Literally the same, in fact.
280 vs 282 at 45/45
296 vs 298 at 60/60
318 vs 319 at 80/80
340 vs 340 at 99/99
@@MetalHev Well I suppose it means that these seals now get to the good bit of scaling earlier now. In practice that is a buff, especially golden order seal, since it had too slow scaling before.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 see, I thought it was that too, but apparently the scaling difference is 0 at base, 2 at 45, then 0 at 99 again. There's no actual difference in scaling speed, for the clawmark seal at least.
They wanted it to seem like they aren't just nerfing everything. Fucking fromsoft loves cucking the niche
You can turn on recent items in the settings
And new items are marked. Huge QoL change . I wanted this from the beginning . Now ER is PERFECT
Did you see Torrent being enabled for Elden Beast?
solo only probably?
@@willybiggs-rj6qtno shit Sherlock
@@Rotten_Sausage 🥺
@@Rotten_Sausagesay sorry to him
Me: I'm will never leave my Blasphemous Blade
Elden Ring: Here some encouragement to use our DLC weapon 😊
😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh you all have your weapons do 1% less damage and decide to drop them
@@abrahamrangel2326 Its not a damage thing. You can't cheese bosses with the blasphemous blade anymore, its a big deal.
@@anaskaadan5845 good
Bruh took me fcking ages to farm for that longhorn to get ready for the dlc wtf what a waste of time guess all the enemies are weak to holy
I feel so bad for you 😭😭
That's what you get for wanting to cheese the game by killing bosses in ten seconds.
@@icebox1954someone hates fun
It's still going to be good
My ordovis sword live at least, using a crucible build for the dlc
Thank Marika they finally fixed the Godslayer's greatsword, too bad it came at the cost of extinction of the bubble boys.
Some of these changes are questionable, thundercloud form was not OP, it’s such a long animation and nobody used it. It didn’t need a nerf imo
Tbh I used the uncharged version a good bit just cuz cool and not terrible, but now idk.
Infinite hyperarmor with insane tracking deserved the nerf
@@abrahamrangel2326 Nah, something like Lion’s Claw is infinitely more busted, and that didn’t get nerfed. Faster animation, insane damage, infinite hyperarmor etc. There’s plenty of other things they could’ve done to improve the game rather than nerfing that weapon
@@grimreefer213 but has stupid tracking, you could easily go past an enemy or be dodged
you have to keep in mind that maybe this was tested in the dlc version, and it was too op there. they wouldn't have just nerfed it for the hell of it.
Nerfing the jelly is unforgivable
Willful traitors !
@@wellingtonrodrigues7654one and all.
Jelly shield?
>load into game for first time in over a year
>have an intelligence build
>decide to use dark moon greatsword and moonveil since they're already upgraded
>wake up next day
>they're both nerfed
Good
@@abrahamrangel2326Keep on bootlicking 😛
@@leiferikson5029 lmao bootlicking what? Skill play?
@@abrahamrangel2326 Nah,cheering on needing Fromsoft to nerf certain builds with weapons and spells because yours are inadequate.
@@leiferikson5029 lmao you are the one one inadequate for being so hurt about your cheese being nerfed, git gud
Thundercloud form nerf makes no sense. I can't think of a scenario you can use it anymore....
They nerfed Cerulean Hidden Tear and Terra Magica. RIP, I was looking forward to lasering down Mohg.
You can only two shot Mohg now
Nooo, my anti-malenia spear :(
The nerfs are pvp exclusive
@@cosmicwire6356bloodboon ritual is listed under general balance adjustments
@@cosmicwire6356 I mean the video tested the poise damage values and they were definitely nerfed
Time to git gud
@@cosmicwire6356 no they weren't. some were pvp only and some were for everything
Was going in with an INT/FTH build with Sword of Night and Flame, Prince of Death Staff and Golden Order Seal.
One untouched and the other 2 got buffs, life is good
I wish the whips would be significantly improved. I wanted to make a character using perfume bottle offhand and whip for a dominatrix rp
Offense perfumes need a charge attack like the long distance ones the enemies use and such.
A great idea with perfumes , but they never went anywhere with it.....
They buffed all whips except Urumi FWIW.... Whips need a strangle Crit/backstab animation.
45th consecutive Claymore playthrough let's fucking gooooo
Dragon communion seal getting buffed is insanity. Also fuck glintblade phalanx thank god
Hahaha one of my builds got nerfed (dual great spears) and another got boosted (faith/str)
As a dragon communion seal user, currently, this pleases me 😊
@@pkuvincentsuIs the scaling of any of the staffs/seals buffed to give them better scaling in the early/mid game but done in euch a way not to affect the incant scaling with int/faith at 80?
The buff to seals and staffs is quite minimal. It's weird they felt the need to adjust it now.
@@DextahPC I think the scaling change is even less noticable early/mid game. For my mid-game str/faith build, the clawmark seal went from 194 to 195. I really don't get this change lol.
Why did they buff the seals that were strong but not the one that is weak despite scaling off 4 stats...
Iron Balls and Star Fist just sitting there untouched like they don't do colossal weapon poise on a dagger speed weapon
Me: who flops between Blasphemous Blade and Envoy’s Longhorn thinking I was all set. 😭
i will just slam my way through with Marika's hammer now
i just use it for the passive hp on kill and it stacks with the cameo as well
Bro nerfing any pve stuff from the base game makes no sense lol it’s been two years. Maybe focus on improving the stuff that needed buffs years ago so people have even more build variety instead of nerfing stuff
just tested the Dragon Communion Seal at the highest possible level (99 arcane and faith) its still 415 no change at all
0.01% better scaling
Elden Ring is the easiest fromsoft game. Stop nerfing all my op weapons! I swear this fanbase is a special kind of stupid.
They definitely meant to say decrease crouch attack speed of serpent hunter. As a pvper who sees this weapon everyday the crouch attack you showed is slower and it is now in line with UGS
Edit: also im kinda salty they nerfed thundercloud form. It was going to be my dlc weapon. Whats crazier is that they think stance break on thundercloud form is too op by the ordovis greatsword isn’t? Kinda crazy tbh. You can literally get more stance damage and actually damage spamming square off for less fp then thundercloud form now.
Great they nerfed all my favorite weapons 😂
Again 😅
maybe because they are op so they nerf so you dont rely on them in the dlc as much as before but you can use them fine still
@@master_of_glaives "too op" who cares? It's singleplayer game
@@wonderofu1603 People who like the game instead of cheesing it care. The game shouldn't have that stuff. Blasphemous Blade still needs another nerf.
@@icebox1954 who is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it? it really shouldn’t bother you if someone else it using it
“Never using that again” that sums up exactly why nerfs are such a bad thing, because he’s right, Fromsoft has a bad habit of nerfing the exact reason why people use something and making it useless. Nobody is using glintblade phalanx for damage, cause it’s damage sucks, it was for the poise breaking, if it doesn’t break poise anymore, then no one will ever use it again, so now it’s existence in the game is pointless.
This sucks so much i was using it in a new run i started and now its useless
yeah it seems like thats the main issue. they nerf the fuck out of the exact reason you use the thing, but never buff anything else on it to make it worth anymore. like you said, glintblade phalanx is dog ass now and will never be used. Same with flame of the redmanes being shit.
"my weapon is not a crutch anymore 😭"
If you like the weapon you would use it even after nerfs
@@abrahamrangel2326 whats to like about an ash of war that does no damage and no stance damage
@@nachoramitas its called "kick" and "storm stomp" ash of war 🤣 you all just like to L2 to win
Can we push fromsoftware to release a boss rush and make Elden Ring perfect? They already fixed the logo screen and the elden beast fight, a boss rush is the only thing missing now really
Sad how spells seem to be largely unchanged. Wanted to see reworked thorn sorceries among other things…
This patch note won’t be the last, so hold out hope that future patch notes will address stuff like that 😁
These are some serious nerfs to some weapons
Poise generation means how long it takes for poise to kick in when you are using attacks.
So pretty much hyperarmor
Also, as a pvper this is one of the best balance patches of all time period.
We’ll see
Problem is that this patch still did nothing regarding magic spammers.
@@derekbateman7378 and took away a lot of counterplay from the invaders (arrow rain, thunderstorm)
@@formatomi and if i recall didn't the last patch nerf the fuck outta the major barrier buffs like 'barrier of gold'?
Very disappointed with some of these nerfs mostly for the pve side of things it’s annoying that certain weapons get nerfed because of pvp and that usually leads to them being useless against the pve enemies
Blasphemous Blade and Dark Moon Greatsword will still be OP
Just because they kill bosses in 5 hits now instead of 3 doesn't make them garbage
They didn't nerf them for pvp reasons, obviously.
They can separate nerfs to be pvp exclusive, devs are not that clueless those weapons were skilless crutches and got what they deserved, time to get good
@@Elden_Cock_Ring surprisingly only used them for annoying over world enemies like the ones in the haligrade tree and such but not really for bosses
The thing about dex scaling was probably mistranslated, seems like the japanese version is talking about quality infusion instead.
Balance patches are why I quit Overwatch lmao
These actually make sense though, nerfing weapons so that instead of having to make all the dlc bosses roided up to account for op ash of war spam from base game stuff
@@alexberube5269The problem is. Most of these changes are boring. The weapons went from being a bit too good. To outright bad in some cases.
More of the changes should have been like DMGS, where there was a buff to compensate.
Or be like.... I think SF4 Ryu? Where his Heavy Shoryuken got nerfed to have no invincibility frames. But the high damage was kept. This way, players still had a VERY powerful hard read option. But had to think when to use it.
But.... Most of the weapons got nerfed into oblivion. And thus, the cycle continues.... More cheese strats will be found, squashed, repeat rinse until all the weapons are weak. (And yet, there's STILL an objective best build.)
@@alexberube5269 Nothing about balance patching a single player game makes sense. Bad design, trash developer, end of story.
STOP NERFING PVE WEAPONS FROMSOFT
Git gud
@@Mannyc7most people at this point have gotten good, they just want to have fun with broken weapons now
@@Mannyc7 broken weapons are fun though and pvp balance is completely separate apparently so no reason to nerf pve weapons honestly.
This'll help you explore your potential
They nerfed the base game broken weapons cuz they want you to start using dlc broken weapons
poise generation speed is probably how quick HA kicks in it got delayed I think
Can’t wait to see everyone who crouched the broken stuff whine about it lmaooo
So the weapons damage were only in pvp right? Thank god
They be playin with our hearts by not specifying PvP and PvE changes good enough
Looks like some was both. Bubble Shower probably isn't big in PVP.
Darkmoon sword wave pose nerf was in PVE too
@baltzy1616 it's clearly specified in the patch notes lol . That whole first section is pvp only. The rest is for both pvp and pve though
@@baltzy1616 There's a huge PVP specific title to the PvP changes. How can they possibly make it simpler for you?
Darkmoon great sword was also buffed , it has increased poise damage with its regular and charged attacks, it's going to be very op
No one uses the regular attacks with dark moon great sword, the whole point of it is the ability. might aswell use guts great sword.
@@gacarino2345if you weren't mixing in regular attacks than you're goofy af my g
@@ToasterDsGNot really there’s 0 point to using the normal attacks usually. The beams do insane damage and stagger from range. You can kill most everything before even getting into melee range.
The charged beam attack also has a weapon hitbox. I think this is the part that deals the great stance damage on the buffed R2 now.
@@Childofbhaal That might be why it was nerfed, lol.
youwy quick with it
They didn’t nerf to make the DLC harder but just because yall abusing with « good » (broken) weapons
Beast jaw didnt get nerfed! Im saved! I dual wield for the jumping one shot. Black feathers helps out too
Was nervous going into this video but suprised to see my build was buffed!
Same lol, I didn’t even realize the godslayer sword was bugged because I haven’t played in so long
They made the dlc hard as hell and not only that they nerfed the best weapons lmao
Elden Ring as a whole is a massive disappointment, so its only natural for the DLC to double down
@@Gungrave123Brain issue I'm afraid
Gotta nerf the old stuff to sell the new stuff. Gunfire does the same thing for Remnant 2.
@@Gungrave123nice bait bro, pitiful attempt to be different😂
No golden order greatsword buff :(
They’re nerfing everything to make the dlc harder smh
Skill issue. Get gud.
Nerfing all the op and crutch weapons *
More like the better weapons are in the DLC now lol time to hunt down those new weapons
Cheap difficulty
Get gud
So they nerfed the cheese builds. Perma-stunning bosses isn't very engaging, and comet azur is even less engaging. Even though the dlc bosses won't let you set up the comet azur with their hyper aggression, it seems they don't want mohg to be trivialized.The nerfs make sense as it'd ruin the new content, and there's more reason to use something new.
the summoning pool thing is a godsend
I think pvp needs to use one set spot as they join in because people will just run run run and it should be a time limit also because I couldn’t do anything for at least 30 minutes because of trolling
The inventory additions are in the game, you need to enable them in the options menu
THIS IS WHY YOU READ TUTORIAL POP-UPS
I'm glad they nerfed the powerstancing great spears. Those types of players were getting extremely annoying, lmao.
Ok so Blasphemous Blade and Darkmoon Greatsword nerfs were so minor that they are still like top 2 weapons in the game in PvE.
I'm wondering if Mohgs spear is still good
Powerstance twinblades are probably better now. They both got big hits. No knockdown for blasphemous blade, and you have to get close with Dark Moon now. Jelly fish is also a part of the dark moon build, so it got 5% worse.
Quite many bosses didn't get knocked down by Taker's Flame anyway and the skill didn't stance break bosses that often even before the nerf. Malenia cheese is definitely much weaker now since she got easily knocked down from Taker's Flame. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if DLC has the strongest weapons.
@@Ylikollikas the knockdown is mostly useful against Mobs its true. It is probably still close to as good against bosses. Dark moon greatsword might be worse than it now for bosses though.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 Honestly seems like the nerf was solely so Malenia wasn't constantly knocked down by Taker's Flames, and tbh, I'm fine with that lol.
Thank goodness they didn’t nerf black flame tornado
The GO seal got a small buff, at least looking at the 43 int/faith setup, it had 330 before the patch, now 338
i cant believe all those weapons like serpent bone blade still arent infusible I literally could not care less about all these little nerfs when so many weapons are basically unusable cuz they cant be infused
Wow. All our favorite weapons got scuffed and kicked. I guess I can see what FS was after; they made the worst weapons and skills a little better, and made the best worse, but it still hurts. We'll just have to see how this all works out. I pray to Michael Zaki this makes the game better, not worse.
"Increased attack power of arrows" yeah they literally increased it by 3. But at least is a buff 🤷♂
Is playing the dlc on new game plus not the best idea for first playthrough? New game +1
More fun and challenging on fresh game. Since some op talisman combo and weapon combo are gated behind ng+1
I believe it is only in the later new game + iterations that the enemy scaling really ramps up. NG+ might be the best way to play, because you will be higher level, and get more talismans, and weapons from base game. Like you can now using dual scavengers curved sword for example.
I did that with bloodborne's dlc, it was the hardest thing I have ever experienced in a fromsoft game. But it was fun
This patch note in a nutshell: Lets nerf everything op in the game, but buff none of the trash things in the game
I haaaate nerfs. Too strong, do not use the effing thing. What about those of us who actually want to be badass and overpowered.
then you buy the dlc to use weapons with flashier effects (dangling keys) and would make the base game weapons at their prime look like joke weapons.
Gotta nerf the old stuff to sell the new stuff.
They nerfed the Base game weapons so you can now enjoy the DLC broken ones
@@kizmo2317 Yeah, exactly
@@kizmo2317 People would buy the dlc regardless. It's not an online service game with a battle pass. Do you even use your head ever?
Nerfing the Blasphemous blade is a good idea. It's so tempting to just use it through the whole game. I kept myself from upgrading it on my last playthrough so I wouldn't turn to it when I was having trouble
It’s still the best weapon in the game lol. The nerf is incredibly minor.
Poise generation speed 14+ poise/s per second after not dealing damage for 6-8 seconds.
"Decreased the poise generation speed" probability means it reduces the amount out of poise a combatant can regenerate
Thank you
16:28 oh my beloved, you will be Morned
I NEED TO KNOW IF THE PRINCE OF DEATHS STAFF IS NOW VIABLE WITHOUT INSANE STATS
From what I understand, they made the late scaling a bit better for it so you'll see big gains on high Int and Faith stats. Given what Youwy said about Golden Order seal, they might have made the late scaling better on all dual catalysts so actually dedicated Int/Faith (or other dual stat catalyst user) builds will probably use Dual Catalysts much better than users that are less dedicated.
@@FolutuAs someone with 99 in all my stats, I can confirm that the scalings haven’t changed so it’s probably buffing the earlier scaling levels
@@soulsenthusiasts1015 Probably then.
Why the fuck is it necessary to nerf weapons in a single player game?
Holy damage is too powerful against end game bosses. Lets nerf one of the few weapons that can still be used against Maliketh and Radabeast if you're a faith build and not be ass against them.
Gee From, thanks for that.
Yeah, i planned to use longhorn with my faith build with bb for fire resist enemies.. bb is still good but longhorn is dead now( no good holy weapon left
@@dimitrischampanski2905 what's bb? Blasphemous blade? I don't get why From hates Faith so much. It was already the worst element to use mid to late game and there were only a few weapons that were viable. Blasphemous got nerfed but at least it still has the same damage. Sure the longhorn had a ot of poise damage (if all bubbles hit) so i can see nerfing that. But from the looks of it, its AoW damage was halved. You already had to wear a stupid helm to make it good, and it was mainly really good against big enemies. Against smaller enemies most of the bubbles missed and it didn't do that much damage. Now it's going to be terrible against regular enemies and mid against big bosses. And useless against Black Cat and Radabeasti. The AoW barely did 2k damage as is, now what 1k damage against them?
And why now of all times? It's been the same for 10 patches and 2 plus years. Well, there's still a few good options left but I don't even want to mention them. All i can say is, DLC better have some good faith/str weapons.
Guess it's time to put away my doot-doot horn after 14NG cycles and change from bard class to paladin.
@@D00MTR33 you are right..sad i see no alternative to bubble horn. I probably will switch to night comet mage because its op.
Switch to incantations instead. You have catch flame for pretty much every boss, pest threads for elemental resistant bosses, ancient dragon lightning strike for big enemies, frenzy burst for NPC invaders like Gideon. These options currently carry against every boss.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 I know they do, but spells are different from weapons. There's still a few other weapons that are really good too. Longhorn wasn't the only good faith weapon. But there's not many and now it's nerfed to hell. Moonlight GS was nerfed too (and buffed as well), but only the poise damage of the projectile, not how much damage it does. That's what From should have done here. Nerf the poise damage of the bubbles, but leave the damage alone or decrease it by 10%-20% at most. Looks like the damage was almost halved on it.
Holy damage was already the weakest type (not Faith options like fire or physical incantations) and one of 4, maybe 5 good holy weapons is mid now at best and probably terrible against higher resistance enemies. And it's not like it was a PVP monster that needed nerfs like dual spears and other poking weapons. It's a purely PvE weapon and who cares what it does in PvE? It's not affecting other players. You don't see it included on a lot of OP weapons lists.
I'm just bummed because I really like it and have used it a lot, but looks like I'll be switching to something else now.
Nerfing weapons in a PVE game...
Thank god dual greatspears are nerfed 😃
It's been needed. Regular spears too. No more crouch lance tactics hopefully, it got old months ago.
F me that was one of the 2 builds I was boosting for the DLC 😅
Its only a damage change, good players dont care about damage so nothing changed
@@abrahamrangel2326 crouch attack spees nerf. For the serpent hunter at least.
@@abrahamrangel2326 and tracking nerf
Almost bone of these changes affect meta. Players today are babies
Whole reason people wanted PvP exclusive changes was so they didn't screw with PvE players' favorite things. Yet they still do these garbage PvE nerfs.
You're crying for nothing. None of these changes affect PVE meaningfully. Playing with dogshit weapons is more fun anyway
@@WookieWarriorzhe doesn’t understand that they want to balance the pve side as well so they can’t steamroll the dlc
@@onlykeenen We will steamroll the dlc regardless. Just with less fun.
@@onlykeenenOh, trust me. There are still options to cheese PvE. There's just less now....
@@Gungrave123 still feel that way?
This is clearly translated from Japanese to English hence the minor spelling and phrasing issues
IMO nerfing a bunch of stuff the day before releasing “ultra hard” DLC is a pretty dogwater move. But they didn’t touch my Gutz Sword, so all is well.
The only one that REALLY needed a pve nerf. I killed Malenia 1st try in under a minute.
deserved, If a player didnt get good after 2yrs and still needs those crutches then it should suffer the dlc
@@abrahamrangel2326 Does it ever occur to you that different people play the game in different manners?
we needed this update three months ago, so we could adjust but no. now its "go through some of the hardest content weve made with newly nerfed builds."
YES, NEW HAIRSTYLES 🙌
Now I can build my Lesbian Bowler character I've been thinking about.
@@nunchuksteev9811 noise lol
@@nunchuksteev9811your what
Thank f*cking God, powerstancing (great)spears was just the worst meta I've ever seen in a fromsoft game
Saw this coming, made sure that my build didn’t rely on anything meta or extremely powerful. Fromsoft isn’t going to take 2 years to build something challenging and fun just to let you cheese it like you did the base game.
Thats what im saying they expect it to be a easy game when its not supposed to be but people should adapt
I was using envoys longhorn and blasphemous blade, they nerfed both, so sad. Bubble shower was op but now it feels useless, it does less damage than a jump attack, at least on normal enemies. not sure if against a big enemy more bubbles will hit and do more damage, I need to test.
They're only useful against giant enemies now, as you say, more bubbles = More Damage. Sadly, they don't break posture anymore.. well, at least not as fast. But still somehow viable against big foes.
Really don't understand why these companies keep nerfing fun out of their games
Artificial difficulty. I love From but they keep doing it more and more
Idk who these companies are but fromsoft clearly didn't do it here. There is still fucking PLENTY of broken shit in this game. And fromsoft games outside of PvP are way more fun with reasonable weapons
@@wonderofu1603 Legit after the game design fiasco that is Elden Ring i was ready to write off FromSoft for good. Only the arrival of AC6 postponed that..
@@WookieWarriorz For you maybe, yes.
Twinned blades = untouched, easy game easy life
So all the weapons I've fully upgraded then...and i only did the envoy longhorn last week 😢
The nerfs are pvp exclusive
@@cosmicwire6356 thanks
No, it's under the general weapon balance changes, not the PvP@@cosmicwire6356
@@cosmicwire6356several of the genera damage nerfs are universal.
@@cosmicwire6356did you watch the video?
No love for black flame stuff?
Right? I’m surprised they didn’t buff ritual or souring black flame 🤦🏿♀️
I can't believe glintblade phalanx got nerfed. My stance breaking int build is useless now.