North Carolina LEAVING ACC Forces NC State to Expansion Big 12, Clemson, Florida State Set the Tone
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Having NC State join the Big 12 would bring a significant boost to the conference in terms of competitive balance, geographic reach, and overall brand strength, enriching the league's football landscape. NC State, with its solid football program and passionate fan base, would be a valuable addition to the Big 12, enhancing the quality and excitement of the conference.
Competitive Balance
NC State’s football program has consistently demonstrated strong performance in the ACC, with regular bowl game appearances and competitive play against top-tier teams. Their inclusion in the Big 12 would add another strong competitor, raising the overall level of play and ensuring that the conference remains one of the most competitive in the nation. This enhanced competitive balance would lead to more thrilling games and high-stakes matchups, drawing in fans and increasing the conference’s national visibility.
Geographic Reach
Adding NC State would expand the Big 12’s geographic footprint into the Southeastern United States, tapping into new markets and recruiting territories. North Carolina is a state rich in football talent, and NC State’s presence in the Big 12 would give the conference access to this vital recruiting ground. This expanded footprint would not only aid in recruiting efforts but also help in building new regional rivalries and enhancing the conference’s national appeal.
Fan Base and Atmosphere
NC State’s passionate and loyal fan base would bring vibrant energy to the Big 12. Known for their enthusiastic support, Wolfpack fans create an electric atmosphere at Carter-Finley Stadium, which would translate well to the Big 12’s dynamic game-day environments. The addition of NC State would lead to increased attendance at games and higher television ratings, further solidifying the conference's financial stability and marketability.
Institutional Benefits
Academically, NC State is a respected institution, known for its strong engineering and research programs. This aligns with the Big 12’s commitment to academic excellence and would foster greater academic collaborations and partnerships within the conference. The academic prestige of NC State would enhance the overall reputation of the Big 12, attracting top student-athletes who value both athletic and academic success.
Economic and Branding Impact
Economically, NC State’s inclusion would bring significant benefits to the Big 12. Increased ticket sales, merchandise revenue, and media rights deals would result from the expanded fan base and heightened interest in the conference. The Wolfpack’s strong brand, combined with the Big 12’s existing powerhouse programs, would create a more formidable and appealing conference for media partners and sponsors.
In summary, having NC State join the Big 12 would bring competitive strength, expand the geographic reach, energize fan engagement, enhance academic collaboration, and provide substantial economic benefits. These factors would collectively elevate the Big 12’s stature, ensuring its continued growth and success in the evolving landscape of college athletics.
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Seriously, Baylor still has sports? Only 1 college team got a bowl game, a Men's BB sweet 16 and a CBB Super regional...that's NC State.
Clemson...
Apparently Drake still does NOT understand the nc governance Authiorithy. The unc B o G has the power and authority as to whether unc and or NCState can or cannot leave the Acc. The individual b of t for say unc chaphel hill or ncsu Raleigh have input into the process- but it is controlled and run by nc B of G. Don’t bring a Big12 guest on to speak about nc power structures…
Exactly this channel is a ACC hater! They dont understand how things are done in NC. The Big 12 are still bitter about losing Texas and Oklahoma and they are just fine!
Both...
a) The audit of the UNC Athletic Department, and
b) The proposed legislation to mandate UNC/NCSTATE games
...suggest that UNC will be leaving and NCSTATE staying. The two have clearly different realignment strategies so should have different results.
One goes to the B1G and the other to the SEC. Way too much political clout to have one goes to power 2 and the other to the minor leagues
UNC BOG is also controlled by NC State alumni at the moment so there is that. I think some of these ppl think the UNC BOG is for chapel hill only…. No they are the governors for they university system and they do control every aspect of the state schools including athletics
@@jerrywyrick1983 The BOG has a duty to not cause economic waste. A suicide pact would be just that.
Big 12's 4 best to get would be Pitt, VA Tech, Louisville & (NC State or Miami)
I think Virginia tech Miami Pittsburgh Louisville will be a great fit
Pitt brings nothing to the party not even their own football field.
@@pitchshot2868 They bring a rivalry that would be one of the most watched games of the season nationally. Also have a great history of talented NFL players and are located in a recruiting hot bed.
West Virginia gets their biggest rival back
The backyard brawl returns. Another rivalry now coming back
... the old Big East...partially
I think Louisville, Pitt, VT, NC State, and Georgia Tech are the best the BIG 12 could do.
Maybe pick up SMU to keep the number of schools even, since they are free and competitive in football.
If B12 can get the above they would stay a P5 level but in name only. Not a SEC or B Easy but when both conferences fire their baggage the B12 would be in good position to replace them. They need 3 conferences to keep fans happy and B12 is the best available.
I wouldn't be surprised if VT ends up in the SEC especially if Virginia some how ends up in the B1G. Georgia Tech.... i'm not so sure. They may end up without a dance partner.
Virginia Tech was middle of the road before Frank Beamer got there, and middle of the road again after Frank Beamer retired. I put VT, PITT, WV and Louisville in the same bucket. A coach away from the next level
@@tyreedillard cannot argue that reasoning. Good points and true.
@@tyreedillardwe’ll see this year! VT will NOT be middle of the road.
My 4 would be GA Tech, VA Tech, Louisville, and Pitt
I am from Michigan and I always watch ncstate vs NC.
The Florida State University & The University of Florida are big time rival’s & they have never been in the same conference. It is doable & I would not be shocked if Conference Championship go out the window & an additional game added to every team’s schedule in the future?? Especially with the continued expansion of the playoff’s.
You mean like Alabama and Auburn? Mississippi an Ole miss? Michigan an Michigan state? There's many other teams same state, conference, and equally hated rivalry.
ESPN just declined paying for a 9th SEC conference game, so they might not be very eager to pay up, for that extra game.
NC State won the most ACC championships this past year and is the biggest university in the Carolinas. I’ll be glad when all the garbage talk goes away.
In realignment anything is possible so no one knows. It is 100% speculation. Good point!
Does not matter.
@@JohnMFloyd true just as facts don’t matter in politics and whatever one claims.
U act like they been good.. They're a b rated team in NC..
Basketball doesn’t count
This podcast is officially off the rails. Drake just rolls nonsensical comments off the tongue as though they are facts. NC State is not going to the Big12 and this law is not “suggesting” that at all. Knowing NC politics and how deeply engrained college football and basketball is in the state with big time rivalries is just lawmakers making sure that no matter what happens we are going to play. State and Carolina have played each other in football for 120 years and is like the Hatfields and McCoys; the Empire and the Rebellion, etc., and lawmakers will see that tradition stays alive.
I could completely see State and Carolina both going to SEC, not because they are “tied together” but because it makes sense. Or Carolina to Big 10 and State to SEC. The SEC though is the historical home of both schools since leaving the old Southern Conference (with Alabama, Auburn,Georgia, etc.) to form the ACC. If NC State fell the Big12 by some crazy sequence of events, it would be like an Utah move and just be a temporary situation.
Yeah, I don't see NC State going to a power 2 conference. I'm not sure NC gets into one either, so they might just both end up staying in the ACC. of course if other schools leave the ACC then it will be making much less via it's media rights. That's a slow death in my opinion, but if that's the hill y'all want to die on, go right ahead. I know right about now those Beaver and Cougar fans would love to be part of the Big12 and there might come a point in time when you wish NC State had gone to the big12, instead of trying to stick together with your long time regional bros.
What the heck are they talking about. NEITHER UNC NC state nor DUKE are leaving the ACC
Lol 😆
SEC -Kansas, NC, Duke, Va
B10 - FSU, Clemson
B12 - Miami, Pitt, VT, NCst, Louisville
Again, why would Tier 2 ACC flight risks go to the already Tier 2 new BIG12?
@@tarheel7406 30-10
Kansas and UVa likely goes to the Big Ten, maybe Arizona State and Texas Tech. UNC and GT to the SEC maybe NC State as well.
@@JoKeer80 Again, why would Tier 2 ACC flight risks go to the already Tier 2 new BIG12?
If that's happens which teams going to join the ACC then?
The Big 12 should get Pitt, Miami, NCST, Louisville, if they can VaTech NO one else.
UNC administration would prefer Big 10 over the SEC--however, Joe Sixpack Carolina fan identifies with the SEC.
Amen.
Joe, Evan, the donors... All prefer the SEC.
I prefer the Big 10 to keep all the Olympic sports.
How would UNC be additive to the B1G financially? I would like to see the numbers on that.
the whales like the sec, and where the money goes is where u go. but ya the old guard like the big10 most of the new guys in the key postions want the south. as in SEC. but u r right it is a cluster .......
I want Duke to go in any conference that Carolina is not in, I could care less whether Duke plays them ever again!
tired of getting your a== beat
Okay, no coattail effort. Without a coattail, neither SEC nor B1G is likely. What is DUKE's preference after the ACC depletes out?
Cameron do you know ANYTHING about VT football?? Good grief. VT is 3rd in ACC in football attendance and has won more titles than any school besides Clemson & FSU (4) since expansion in 2004
Drake you for got WVU been in big 12 for 10 years now we need closer home games
The lil 12 is in the acc foot print. The acc must grow west.
WVU's the best party school... everyone knows that
NC State to the SEC. Best fan base in NC outside of ECU.
Many sec insiders think ncsu has best fb fan culture fit in nc as far as sec membership.
Riiiiight
The greed of the ACC finally catching up with them. Hope it was worth it fools.
Virginia tech would absolutely fit in the big12 the culture atmosphere fun loveable school 🏫 Virginia tech and iowa state would match up well and so would lousville ! Jamie
I would cry if my tarheels left the acc...I live an hour from there
Why? SEC all your games would be relatively closer. B1G, the games would be a little farther. This is only in reference to away games. Otherwise, your home games stay the exact same distance.
Im just gonna gone head and say this before they even start..........#clickbait
Haha
Yeah.
Lol.... well you're not known as the mental midget for nothing😂😂😂😂
Lol.... you jist keep feedin them chickens Leroy😂😂😂😂
@@aisaxonawiat6484 bruh wut......? Stop talking to me
UNC, VT, Miami, WVU, TCU and Utah will be the next round of expansion to the SEC with FSU, Clemson, UVA and Notre Dame to the B1G. This will be the final round of expansion to get to the “Power two”. Teams like KSU, OK State, NC State ect. will eventually find their way in to one of the P2 receiving less than half a share.
in FB NC State is unccheat’s biggest rival. Do your research guys!
True, but only really in football.
@@tarheel7406In every other sport that they share except men’s basketball
@@jerrywyrick1983 Nope... UVA and DUKE have been far more successful in overall sports than NCSTATE; therefore, are far bigger overall rivals. UVA in particular is a near twin university.
@@tarheel7406honestly UNC isn’t even in the same breath as NC State football. Clemson/Wake is more States rival in football
@@tarheel7406if UNC football became even just halfway decent then I would agree but it’s just been too one sided the last twenty years
Miami is on the table for the Big12
Syracuse: And…What are we doing?
ACC: Idk probly overhyping your new recruits and falling short again.
Syracuse: Well at least we have consistency
If thge Big 12 can only except for schools from the ACC, and if these are available, who would be the outside school looking in?: Miami, NC State, VT, Pitt, Louisville.
Florida State and Clemson to the SEC, maybe Miami too. North Carolina, NC State, louisville, and Virginia tech to the Big 12. I can see Pitt going to the Big Ten, maybe Duke too
SEC doesn't want Miami. Miami may go to the Big 10
Delusional....
Who will replace these ACC schools?
You are incorrect. UNC's biggest football rival is NC State. Duke in Basketball.
If FSU ends up in the B1G and the B1G played 10 conference games but still only plays 12 games total, there's no way that FSU keeps both UF and Miami on their schedule. The UF game is mandated by state law, so the Miami game will go away.
Clearly, they don’t know anything about the ACC next…
these guys are just scrambling. Trolling for clicks, obviously, they have their desires that aren't necessarily based in reality.
Lol....Drake doesn't do that, he's usually pretty accurate.
You’re commenting from inside your Big12 bubble. It wasn’t that long ago that NC State was the chief rival of UNC (“Duke’s puke, Wake’s fake but the team I hate is NC State”). It is still a significant rivalry that many will care about losing.
I understood that the legislation to try and tie them together did not pass.
They never brought it to a vote.
Legislation was to play other unc schools never to tie state and unc together. It never it came of committee to be voted on.
As long as NC State can whoop carowhinas ass every year I'm fine.
Dude them saying the wouldn't care about TarHeels and State playing against each other it's just like saying you wouldn't want Texas and Oklahoma playing each other yeah stupid as hell unless you're from the Carolinas you don't understand how big the rivalry is with Carolina an Duke or Duke an State or Carolina and State you ain't from North Carolina then you don't understand
I think in the long run if the Big 12 gets the top 4/5 schools NOT name Clemson/FSU from ACC it would become the most competitive conference top to bottom thus more valuable than the other 2 even with those big brands 🤔
What feasible chain of events ends with any ACC schools in the new BIG12 per that scenario?
@@tarheel7406 UNC decides to roll the dice on the Big 10. Without FSU,Clemson, UNC the ACC falls apart quickly
@@d.fernandosmith4033
a) UNC is now heavily leaning SEC.
b) The BIG12 has already lost its top 6 (net) and is now ~33% G5. The B12 has already fallen apart. There is no purpose for an even larger/wider Tier 2 BIG12.
@@d.fernandosmith4033 I give it 4-7 years and the Big 12 will be no more.
Wow these guys know nothing about Acc tradition NC State and Carolina both are better than a lot of big 12 schools
Is some of the ACC teams joining the Big 12 this season or next season?
Unlikely in any season. Why would they?
North Carolina features itself as a an Ivy League school (which is a “so what” deal, anyway) but is academically bogus. I hired 2 NCU grads. Neither could write a complete sentence.
All of higher education seems to have gone to crap, but the leaders of these schools make the decisions.
The worst take ever about conference expansion.
And Georgia tech jamie
How bout them Savannah Bananas?
It’s always been their conference ACC, (All Carolina Conference).
Doubt these universities will leave the acc conference any time soon. They got too much mess to clear up with acc and if that clears. Big10 dont have any room, they need more money to be able to pay these schools and so does sec conference. Translation none those acc schools leaving acc conference
Picking up essentially the 4 G5s in BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF is looking worse and worse at this point.
Big 12 isn't the big 12 and doesn't get a TV deal without the G5 teams. The big 12 is what the PAC is today...defunct....without the G5 teams.
College football is a big mess
I am still surprised OU left OSU and partnered with ut.
I attended graduate school at OU and I'm not surprised. Texas is the bigger rivalry BY FAR. There is a perception on the OU campus that OSU is just inferior. I think there is some nostalgia for playing OSU every year, but it historically has not been a competitive rivalry in football when you look at the win/loss record. I honestly believe there are some OU fans that are perfectly okay with leaving OSU behind.
OU and Okie State (Bedlam) will be back it'll take a 5-10 year break like Texas and Texas A&M did.......
The BIG 12 doesn't bring in as much money as the ACC. If anything, I bet the BIG 12 gets raided again.
That’s very possible. Realignment is definitely not over. So, who’s next to get poached from the Big 12? There’s only a couple of national brands left. The rest are regional brands.
NC State is a safety school. Sorry, not sorry.
I like this guy's channel but he really has to work on the title of his videos, literally are the same exact thing almost every other day. Starting to feel more and more like clickbait especially when you're repeating the same thing over and over. I rather you talk about something. If I watch your predicting or speculating actually happens definitely talk about it then or maybe you once or twice a month put the tie every subject into some type of expansion or ACC collapse it's daily Overkill
What is going to happen to Notre Dame? They don’t join a conference scheduling may become an issue.
Lol.... I hear Sally Fields is going to reprise her role as The Flying Nun😂
I think they are content for at least the next 5 years; they already have a sweetheart t v deal and there's a lot to be said for not having to split revenue with other schools in the conference. If the top of the acc leaves, ND will just get the same friends with benefits deal with the B10 and probably be better off.
Unc is not wanted by the sec, they are only good at *MENS* basketball, nc state has been better than any other nc team in women’s basketball. Unc is awful at football compared to Clemson, fsu, app state, and nc state. If any schools from the acc leave to the sec it would be fsu, Clemson, and nc state.
Please STOP talking about the ACC!
NC State is a huge rival of UNC!
Also, Interview someone who knows something about the east coast and lives here! NC State is a great academic school and putting them in the same camp as KSU and WVU is laughable!
BIG12 fans have no clue. Near peers#2s VATECH and NCSTATE are better schools than BIG12 flagships.
Well welcome.... let's all have that good laugh together as the conference comes together😂😂
@@tarheel7406.... I love the self-aggrandizing😂😂.... reminds me of the midget at the urinal in stall number 5😂😂
@@aisaxonawiat6484 You would know. Your trash talk tickles. My truth bludgeons. Care to try again?
Y'all are in Texas stay with the Texas s*** don't know what's going on in North Carolina people here want to see that every year just like y'all want to see Texas Oklahoma and Duke for basketball NC State for football you don't know what the hell you're talking about
Drake, you are showing your ignorance about NC
Big 12 could take UNC for basketball but if they do they should also take UConn. Both are good at basketball but have horrible football teams maybe they should also take Duke. I really don't see the SEC or Big 10 taking UNC. That would just dilutes the conference and kind of makes them more of a joke. But I guess the SEC and Big ten really only have four or five good football teams each and the rest suck. So I guess maybe UNC would fit in. 😂🤣😂
Delusional.... There is no feasible chain of events that ends with UNC is the new BIG12.
ACC will back fill with Kansas, Oklahoma st , Arizona and Utah. Big 12 is in ACC foot print. ACC payout per team this year is 44 million. Big 12 is 33 for ten teams and 18 million for BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and Central Florida. Big 12 lost your best team Texas and Oklahoma your conference is junk. Let's see what happens.
a) I don't see KANSAS and/or OKST having mutual interest.
b) The 4Cs are likely too entangled with the BIG12 to may it cost beneficial.
ACC raiding the B12 is a pipe dream, none of the B12 schools are going to take pay cut deals like stanford call and smu, who were desperate. ACC's only path to survive after the next round of realignment is to raid the sun belts top teams and maybe bring ECU in, but even in the scenario, ACC will be a shadow of its former self
Dude used the Mack Brown thumbnail to get clicks cause everyone knows an NC State thumbnail would not get $hit 😂
Looking back from 5 years in future- here’s the shocking results.a rebuilt Acc ( less fsu and Clemson) built around unc and state and Miami, gets a better deal. That plus the 1/2 billion in fees to Acc from fsu and Clemson help to stabilize the new Acc.
Discontent within Big12 surfaces, as Utah jumps to new Acc as better fb and academic fit. While Yarmarks initial Big12 strategy of poaching started out well. But Acc stabilization sent down a losing path to sell Big12 as a fb Vaudville act and failed miserably. Welcome to back from the 2030s Marty!
Hold onto to your hats because a Hugh nc tourism/private equity package is in play for Acc 2.0 , and no other conference has structured in place to even compete against this. Certainly not the Big12.
UNC has to move to maintain its current athletics and pursue its ambitions. Unequal distributions and some one-off revenue source isn't a long-term solution.
To remain a peer Tier 1 (or even survive intact to ~2036), the ACC couldn't lose any from the top or dilute actual value. Absent a miracle, the ACC will deplete out from the top and has already diluted with CAL+2.
Sorry, NCSTATE elected for the managed decline to the Tier 2, so it should accept that fate for at least the near foreseeable.
@@tarheel7406one flaw in your near term reasoning: Called the Board of Governors. 2nd Flaw: This is all about BigBoy FB. Unc is Not, never has been, nor will it be. It about brand , hype pr, women’s soccer and BB.
@@robertgibbs6480
a) The BOG requires financial evidence to support of move, hence the audit.
b) This isn't all about football.
I suspect NCSTATE committed to staying as part of the CAL+2 expansion. UNC did not. It's sad to see NCSTATE effectively admit it's the little brother that can't stand on its own.
None of this shit is happening so keep enjoying saying it to get you views and clicks.
Put the meth pipe down Trailor park conference.
Lol....fail😂
Yes, yes.... The State of NC is going to allow UNC to move to the SEC or B1G only to see NCSTATE downgrade to the new BIG12 rather than be a new tentpole in the surviving ACC.
@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r Always the fool and troll.
@@tarheel7406
@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r Yep, and at no charge. Have anything of substance?
Are you that fool, fraud and troll whose accounts and comments keep getting deleted?
I know you don't know anything about North Carolina Athletics NC State North Carolina it's the biggest rapper within the state.... Can I make a graduates came from the two schools then throw in what came from Wake Forest and Duke all together they're not big enough to even compete with the number of graduates NC State is the largest land grant college in the state of North Carolina in the UNC system
It means a lot to the states economy so no you can't have one without the other without some type of package deal that they keep their rivalries going because the Big four each other big four schools in the state of North Carolina start at the ACC
North Carolina don't give a damn what they did out there and out west out in the midwest out in the Southwest or in the East or the southeast for what that means
Look at iowa/iowa state or Kentucky/Louisville. BOGs and statehouses are very reluctant to get involved in in forcing a school to let 'the little brother' tag along. If B10 or SEC comes calling for the top 3 or 4 in the ACC, they aren't going to bring in dead weight. Clem, FSU, UNC, and maybe UVA are the only really targets of the P2. Everybody else will have to fend for themselves.
Sorry, ACC is more prestigious than Big 12, ain't gonna happen clown show
I think North Carolina State, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Duke, will be a great fit for the BIG 12.
Georgia Tech as well. Add in Washington State, Oregon State and a California school, sets up the Big 12 really really well.
How about California-Berkley, Oregon State, Washington State, and Boise State?
How many teams can a conference take at a time? 4? 6?
Besides, its all speculation.
The NCAA would not allow that for obvious basketball reasons. Louisville is only one solid season away from becoming another dominant basketball program like they were in the past and with the addition of Duke…The Big 12 would basically become a G-League. If this were to happen and a couple of teams become dominant in football, the Big 12 would become elite. The sec and big 10 will do everything in their power to keep that from happening. Would be nice though.
Pitt makes way more sense for the big ten. I think they deserved the look of a big ten conference. Hell they let Maryland in. Whose fb program ain’t as nearly successful as Pitt is.
NC State should be SEC before UNC...give me a break
NC state is way too big to be left out. The Big 12 will ask them in a heartbeat.
No one knows until it all happens
OU...if you cant beat em...join em, so you did. ACC and B12 are next, then
B10 will be SECs dessert, then no more
NCAA. SECAA will rule.
ESPN will keep the ACC intact when realignment is all said and done. Yes, the B1G and SEC will take a few but ESPN will rework the ACC deal to mirror the Big12 media deal without any Fox involvement. Plus the ACC has the ACC network which will not pay them much monetarily but it will give the ACC more exposure across all their athletic programs. ESPN has no B1G content, no PAC content and only partial broadcast content for the Big12. ESPN will continue to stand with the SEC as its workhorse but it will also continue to stand with the ACC for its content across all the ESPN network channels. The ACC will be a strong tier two conference with 16 teams once all is said and done just as the Big12 has become. No one yet has given any strong indications that Fox or ESPN will be willing to pay the Big12 more money to go beyond their 16 members. Unless the networks are willing to pay additional tv money, none of the conferences are adding anyone. That’s the realistic point through all of this.
What's going to really hurt is the conference payout when the top 4 or 5 bolt from the acc; espn may rework the offer for around a 50% markdown for the remaining schools, which will start the mass exodus of the the middle tier schools in the acc. The schools that really need to worry are BC, Cuse, and Wake.
@@scammers4prison37 it’ll be a mirror deal to what the Big12 has. ESPN isn’t going to pay any additional money to the Big12 to take any ACC schools. Fox won’t pay any extra either. ESPN wants the ACC to have continued content on their network of channels. The Big12 isn’t taking any schools if they aren’t going to get any more money from ESPN and Fox. If they did, they’d get less money per school on what they’re getting paid now.
@@scammers4prison37 Why still so ignorant? The ACC's deal is already below market and the Tier 2 new BIG12 is the benchmark.
@tarheel7406 -wow, is that what teach at the Tobacco Road schools; how to speak condescending 101. Just saying that when the top 4 from the acc (clem,fsu,unc, and insert a 4th) bolt for the P2, they take 50 to 60% of the value of the conference, here's a breakdown of a couple of the remaining schools:
Wake- future sun belt member
Syracuse- can't fill the mini dome, never going return
BC-search continues off the edge of the earth for success in a sport other than hockey
Cal/stanford- let's just not go there
Smu- one time fundraiser still won't change much, hard area to raise your profile with other Texas schools firmly entrenched
So let's look at the bottom of the B12
Cincinnati-only g5 to make the playoff, not that long ago
Byu-nationwide fanbase, will eventually thrive in the b12
Ucf-red hot recruiting grounds, energetic fan base
Houston- to be fair, see smu minus the fundraising lol
This could be broken down further; the B12 was able to backfill the loss of texas/oklahoma just enough to stay relevant. In the case of acc, there is not a remaining school that's available to backfill with.
RIP ACC
I personally don't want NC State in the big 12. After watching the guy on locked on NC State take shots at the big 12 and at Drake Toll on the podcast with him and the guy from Miami. Go look at it and tell me what you guys think. The discussion was about Utah.
The future of these schools will not be decided based on one random commentator
Can't wait to show these clowns how good the pac 12 schools will be in the conference. Always downplaying them as if the remaining big 12 schools have had amazing success.
Lol.... go get em tiger....rrrruuffff😂