Table Manners in the Ottoman Empire - Acem Pilav

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  • @TastingHistory
    @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +200

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    • @ramaahbk6596
      @ramaahbk6596 3 месяца назад +3

      nowadays it's no longer made with meat. It has been been replaced by chicken. Also nothing of the other stuff you added.. Only chickpeas is added to rice and chicken with salt and pepper. I'm surprised how much the recipe has been changed. 😁😁

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +16

      @@ramaahbk6596 wow! That is different. I’d miss the spices.

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  • @pentiumdeusex-machina4645
    @pentiumdeusex-machina4645 3 месяца назад +3903

    "The Disgusting One", "The Annihilator", "The Reacher", and to a lesser extent "The Shuffler" sound like eldritch gods worshiped by evil sorcerers in some dark fantasy story.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +451

      😂

    • @mylesjude233
      @mylesjude233 3 месяца назад +130

      Indeed they do, definitely not about bad table guests

    • @umutseven5431
      @umutseven5431 3 месяца назад +213

      They sounds so serious in English! In Ottoman Turkish they sound almost humorous.

    • @Jallamedalla
      @Jallamedalla 3 месяца назад +89

      If you do not like "The Reacher", never attend ANY meal served by a Norwegian...

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 3 месяца назад +43

      @@Jallamedalla We were always reprimanded for using 'boarding house reach' instead of asking to have a dish passed.

  • @dakotamerriman872
    @dakotamerriman872 3 месяца назад +1186

    Kinda crazy how many examples of "bad manners" are still relevant. Apparently double dipping has been an issue for much longer than I suspected.

    • @conmckfly
      @conmckfly 3 месяца назад +18

      😅😅😅 - so true.

    • @EmployeeJoe630
      @EmployeeJoe630 3 месяца назад +84

      Oogg Krudd see Grobb double dip mammoth meat in dino slurry. that cave party foul.

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota 3 месяца назад +37

      FWIW, "double dipping" is one of the things that makes me CRAZY.
      So unsanitary !!

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 3 месяца назад +30

      So many places remove this as a choice. Many of the Mexican places we eat at serve every one their own salsa bowl and a small vat of salsa.

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 месяца назад +5

      people need to double dip more I love sharing everyone's spittle...yum

  • @ghoulfang3882
    @ghoulfang3882 3 месяца назад +498

    I must say I love the sound of the Ottoman approach to turning a feast into a tasting party. Everyone gets a little bit of everything but we still get nice and full. Sounds exciting and makes me wonder if the pilaf was developed as a way to fill up if you'd been a bit too polite earlier in the meal.

    • @stargirl7646
      @stargirl7646 3 месяца назад +15

      I like that idea!

    • @imflyingoverclouds
      @imflyingoverclouds 3 месяца назад +43

      You can try Turkish breakfast as well. A small feast, especially on long Sunday breakfasts.

    • @AsifSaifuddinAuvipy
      @AsifSaifuddinAuvipy 3 месяца назад +3

      It was a true buffet

    • @FlyingMonkies325
      @FlyingMonkies325 3 месяца назад +12

      Maybe that but also i think so there were leftovers people could take home for their families since they were okay with it and knew people were poorer than them. Stagger the eating between each dish so there's loads left at the end and then they would give some to the poor.

    • @cemoguz2786
      @cemoguz2786 2 месяца назад

      Yea kind of why it is that way.

  • @cagatayy1182
    @cagatayy1182 3 месяца назад +825

    The intended nut in the recipe book may be pine nut instead of pistachio. In the transcript, the recipe simply says "fıstık", which is the common word, at least in modern Turkish, for all kinds of nuts, including pistachio and pine nut. In modern recipes, currant is often paired with pine nut in pilavs. Funnily enough, the words "fıstık" and "pistachio" are both derived from the Middle Persian "pistag".

    • @t_y8274
      @t_y8274 3 месяца назад +70

      I hope we don't see him trying to make sarma with pistachios next time haha

    • @hetedeleambacht6608
      @hetedeleambacht6608 3 месяца назад +14

      how interesting!! thank you, amother food, history and language addict

    • @beckstheimpatient4135
      @beckstheimpatient4135 3 месяца назад +20

      @@t_y8274 I wonder what sarma would taste with pistachios 🤣 I'm Romanian, so our sarma are boring, but a nice grapevine leaf sarma, with spices and nuts, mmm... that sounds so good.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 3 месяца назад +3

      That sounds better than pistachios! I thought this dish looked really freaking bizarre as soon as he listed all the ingredients.

    • @t_y8274
      @t_y8274 3 месяца назад +26

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 the choice of nuts isn't too weird, if you were having this dish near Antep (Antioch) or thereabouts it'd be the common nut available. It certainly wouldn't be my preference over pine nuts of course but I'm biased.

  • @dauletshynybaev
    @dauletshynybaev 3 месяца назад +979

    Hello from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿. We in my country eat Pilav a lot, my grandfather always cooks a huge pot of pilav for our family. He always says that what makes pilav so special is the combination of different rare spices. In my country we normally say that it comes from the south, or the Uzbeks, I don’t know much history on that part, but I can definitely say that pilav today is a national dish for all of the Turkic people. Really pleased to see a video on a dish, that is really important to my culture and my family! ❤
    Edited: also a small fact about the dish that I want to add, that we in Kazakhstan eat horse meat, so sometimes instead of lamb, chicken or beef we might use horse meat for this dish!

    • @EmmaVZ
      @EmmaVZ 3 месяца назад +54

      Love hearing information from the central-asian countries! Thank you!

    • @canandedebal5186
      @canandedebal5186 3 месяца назад +54

      Hi from Türkiye, we have Uzbek pilav in our cuisin also

    • @darias5689
      @darias5689 3 месяца назад +57

      I was waiting for a comment from Central Asia here :) I'm from Russia originally, but my grandmother made Uzbek plov at home ever since learning it there on a research trip (she's a scientist). She always used the cast iron kazan dish for it. I now make it for my friends and family in Germany where I live :) It's the ultimate comfort food for us.

    • @DipanjanPaul
      @DipanjanPaul 3 месяца назад +21

      Pilav , pilaf, pulav, polo, pilao all these rice dishes originated in Persia.

    • @resourcedragon
      @resourcedragon 3 месяца назад +8

      @@DipanjanPaul: You might need to throw in paella into that list too. And, while the name is different, I wonder if risotto doesn't have the same roots.

  • @Tristan-2016
    @Tristan-2016 3 месяца назад +239

    Okay, that story of the old man filling the bag is genuinely really funny, I’m glad there seemed to be good spirits about it rather than embarrassing either person involved.

    • @MonsieurSquidward
      @MonsieurSquidward 2 месяца назад +32

      We Turks don't like embarrassing people. We register it and say something normal to make the embarrassing situation go away. And we don't laugh at embarrassing situations, even if it's funny, so as not to further humiliate the person. That is a culutral thing

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 месяца назад +6

      I really appreciate that approach to social humor! 💕 A lot of our traditional style of local Kiwi humor is "put-down" humor (mocking and putting others down as a supposed joke) which I really dislike, as I find it far too easily spills over into bullying... Another thing we unfortunately have a cultural problem with here, esp. in our workplaces. An etiquette approach which instead aims to stop people being embarrassed, especially due to accidents they can't help, sounds very thoughtful and hospitable!

  • @linksab9568
    @linksab9568 3 месяца назад +99

    Romanian here, but as a person from the former ottoman empire with gastronomic influence, to help it get off the pan, when it is turned face down to fall from the pan to the plate, you are supposed to hit the bottom of the pan with a wooden spoon (to avoid dents)

    • @thraciensis3589
      @thraciensis3589 Месяц назад +1

      Yes, it is an old Ottoman trick in Türkiye as well.

  • @stefanionutalexandru6916
    @stefanionutalexandru6916 2 месяца назад +348

    As a Romanian I gotta say I'm fascinated about ottoman cuisine and culture. Not to mention modern Turkish cuisine and culture. Great people the turks.

    • @batuhandemir9556
      @batuhandemir9556 2 месяца назад +13

      As a Turk I am trying different countries' quisines. Can you recoomend a romanian food that doesn't include any cheese ? Thanks!

    • @stefanionutalexandru6916
      @stefanionutalexandru6916 2 месяца назад +13

      @@batuhandemir9556 yes, stomach cow soup aka ciorba de burta, but this depends very much in your tastes, usually when foreigners hear of this soup , theyr a bit skeptical, but it is quait delicious. It's hard to recomand something from romania to a person from turkey , given how much influence turkey had on our cousine, except for the sour soups I think . Usually served with polenta and are very varied, from potato and beans cold sour soups to meat ball sour soup and all other varieties including beaf chicken fish and pork soups.

    • @jaguareagle7026
      @jaguareagle7026 2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you I personally don't think you are a gypsy and tuica is amazing

    • @stefanionutalexandru6916
      @stefanionutalexandru6916 2 месяца назад

      @@jaguareagle7026 that's just propaganda online spread by the russians so our allies would hate us and not support us in case they invaded

    • @batuhandemir9556
      @batuhandemir9556 2 месяца назад +8

      @@stefanionutalexandru6916 We have that soup actually called ishkembe (işkembe). But I am sure all countries make it different. Definetely I Will Check it out! Thank you! :)

  • @advertiserfriendlyusername5362
    @advertiserfriendlyusername5362 3 месяца назад +775

    Acem is the Turkish rendering of Ajam. In the original Arabic, it's literally "deaf-mute," but used to refer to someone whose first language isn't Arabic. Initially, it was a racial pejorative. But later on, it was used by Non-Arab Muslims to refer to Persians. So, an Arabic insult for Persians became the name of a Turkish dish.

    • @kralevic3297
      @kralevic3297 3 месяца назад +124

      Calling speakers of a different language something along the lines of "deaf-mute" probably happens quite a lot. For example, the proper Czech word for a German literally translates to "mute". (I think that goes for Slovak and Polish as well.)

    • @Catmom-gl5nt
      @Catmom-gl5nt 3 месяца назад +26

      I spent 3 years living in Central Asia and the tribe that controlled the country was know for being bad cooks, particularly baking terrible bread… it’s funny to experience how slurs like that develop.

    • @sarubet8725
      @sarubet8725 3 месяца назад +14

      ​@@Catmom-gl5nt"tribe" they are nations you know

    • @belisarius6949
      @belisarius6949 3 месяца назад +22

      ​​@@sarubet8725They said "Tribe that controlled the country".

    • @Stevonicus
      @Stevonicus 3 месяца назад +72

      That's where the term barbarian comes from. To ancient Greeks, everyone who wasn't Greek was considered to be speaking unintelligible mumbles that just sounded like bar bar bar.

  • @thesenate8268
    @thesenate8268 3 месяца назад +355

    Beautiful storytelling and research. Thank you. I am Turkish and I only ate this dish once when I was a child at a wedding that my parents attended. Turns out it was so memorable that I sometimes have dreams about it.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +82

      Wow! Thank you so much. I love that you’ve tried the modern version. I’m curious how close it was to this one.

    • @giraffesinc.2193
      @giraffesinc.2193 3 месяца назад +1

      I truly hope you can make it for yourself!

    • @korayyy440
      @korayyy440 3 месяца назад +19

      It is pretty close, but these days people use chestnuts and pinenuts instead of pistachios.@@TastingHistory

    • @TurquazCannabiz
      @TurquazCannabiz 3 месяца назад +10

      I AM THE SENATE

    • @asalways1504
      @asalways1504 3 месяца назад +2

      That must have been some pilaf!

  • @c.a501
    @c.a501 3 месяца назад +786

    As a Turk, I'm so proud of you Max the way you told the history of the food and the different events in the history of the Ottoman Empire is absolutely SO fascinating. You were also really but I mean really respectful which I truly admire of you. Please do more of the Ottoman Empire series, really loving it!
    Wish you a excellent day!

    • @c.a501
      @c.a501 2 месяца назад +73

      @@a.s2205 who asked?

    • @kubilaykazak8218
      @kubilaykazak8218 2 месяца назад

      @@a.s2205 You are most likely a bastard. Do you know who your father is or could it be anyone in town?

    • @rajababy2009
      @rajababy2009 2 месяца назад +25

      @@a.s2205 who are you say other who is from this nationality and that ? just know about your own lineage dont worry about others every one knows about themselves

    • @zaiQwH
      @zaiQwH 2 месяца назад

      I agree 💯

    • @CaptainMagic-vy5kw
      @CaptainMagic-vy5kw 2 месяца назад

      ​@@a.s2205 Such ignorant comment.
      Also where are you from?

  • @DepDawg
    @DepDawg 3 месяца назад +269

    I’m first gen American, parents from Albania. This was a regular dish in our home growing up!
    We ate it with salad and spicy pickles on the side. For dessert we had homemade yogurt topped with honey and walnuts. I have thought of this dish for years but never learned how to make it. I’m so glad you made this episode! Thank you ☺️

    • @NovaPtl
      @NovaPtl 3 месяца назад +46

      Whole Balkan region grown up like you bruh, we called it the ottoman effect in Türkiye.

    • @camelbro
      @camelbro 3 месяца назад +8

      Albania is one of the most beautiful countries I've ever visited.

    • @melisaozge8158
      @melisaozge8158 2 месяца назад +8

      It called ottoman effect

    • @FPolydorion
      @FPolydorion 2 месяца назад

      This is still alive at some Turkish homes as well

    • @ti6290
      @ti6290 2 месяца назад +8

      the ottoman elite was actually in large parts albanian as well

  • @missdenisebee
    @missdenisebee 3 месяца назад +417

    I LOVE the idea that George Costanzas have existed in every culture, and in every time period. So even hundreds or thousands of years ago, there was always That Guy that everyone dreaded seeing at a party😂

    • @shanekeenaNYC
      @shanekeenaNYC 3 месяца назад +9

      Hey, if someone from the past were sent here I would first grab a good meal with perhaps an alcoholic beverage or two myself.

    • @benr2862
      @benr2862 3 месяца назад +14

      Festivus for the rest of us!

    • @turtek12
      @turtek12 Месяц назад

      The French were worse at the time--they not only double-dipped, but they used the bread as a napkin to wipe sauce off their face before double-dipping.

  • @jaydoggy9043
    @jaydoggy9043 3 месяца назад +357

    Pilaf dishes are how I survived when I was completely broke. I'd poach a piece of chicken use the poaching liquid to cook the rice with vegetables, cut up the chicken and mixed it all together when I was done. I'd have that for both lunch and dinner at least five days a week sometimes more. They're a great way to eat a complete meal with meager means... though making it with lamb I would consider very fancy. I can't wait to try this!

    • @2degucitas
      @2degucitas 3 месяца назад +43

      A much healthier way to eat cheaply than ramen.

    • @jackxiao9702
      @jackxiao9702 3 месяца назад +19

      It’s crazy how delicious food is so much cheaper, delicious and better for your body and mind over grocery store packaged foods or fast food, yet most people still do it.

    • @Muljinn
      @Muljinn 3 месяца назад +29

      It all comes down to the time spent. Good food, even when simple, takes time and not everyone is willing to spend it. And then there’s those people who don’t know how to cook.

    • @remmyx4012
      @remmyx4012 3 месяца назад +6

      as someone who makes this dish frequently, i would definitely advise you to try it out with chicken! but make sure you use chicken with bones or a more fatty part because chicken breasts tend to become too dry for this recipe

    • @tochka832
      @tochka832 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Muljinn you can spend an hour to cook huge pilaf pan for 3 or 4 days ahead, otherwise you would spend about the same time either way with cooking something like ramen and getting it, unless you just hoard it like crazy. it's also one of easiest things to cook.

  • @uIfsark
    @uIfsark 3 месяца назад +57

    As a Turk, your pilav looked delicious. The pilav as it is known today in Turkey usually accompanies another dish such as beans or dried chickpeas, or it is eaten with meat (red or white, many different recipes). Yours is a less known or made variant in modern Turkey but it is among one of the best in my opinion.

    • @mehmetkoroglu4597
      @mehmetkoroglu4597 Месяц назад +1

      How it is less known? We eat these kind of pilav a lot in central anatolia.

    • @SmokeyMountain0
      @SmokeyMountain0 Месяц назад +3

      @@mehmetkoroglu4597 Less known in mediterranian and aegean.

  • @gh0stm3tal85
    @gh0stm3tal85 3 месяца назад +93

    I appreciate that you do not edit the videos to just show the end presentation, but show us the initial mess of the dish falling. It's encouraging that none of us are impervious to cooking mishaps

    • @aaronhurst4379
      @aaronhurst4379 3 месяца назад +4

      He does this a lot, and I agree with it as a massive upside for viewers

  • @anna9072
    @anna9072 3 месяца назад +841

    I suspect a lot of Mrs Ramsey’s displeasure with the meal would have been that there was no conversation to distract her while everyone else was eating. Since she filled up on the second course, she basically had to sit and watch everyone else eating for three hours, so I’m not particularly surprised that she found it unpleasant.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +635

      She complains about having to whisper. She also hated that everyone around her spoke Turkish 😂

    • @Iqbalkhan-en1oo
      @Iqbalkhan-en1oo 3 месяца назад +459

      ​@@TastingHistoryso she is earliest travelling karen recorded

    • @baldeagle5297
      @baldeagle5297 3 месяца назад +43

      @@TastingHistory And they call *us* Ugly Americans.

    • @anna9072
      @anna9072 3 месяца назад +87

      @@TastingHistory yeah, I’m not saying she wasn’t an arrogant idiot, just that not having anything to do probably exacerbated the condition.

    • @thedirtprincess3293
      @thedirtprincess3293 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@@Iqbalkhan-en1oo i came here to say the same. 😂 you beat me to it. 🤣

  • @seagreen42
    @seagreen42 3 месяца назад +427

    Thank you Max. I had made it this far in my life without consciously thinking about how many mouths a restaurant fork had been in.

    • @ThinWhiteAxe
      @ThinWhiteAxe 3 месяца назад +9

      same lol

    • @janetmackinnon3411
      @janetmackinnon3411 3 месяца назад +9

      @@ThinWhiteAxe I put the food in my mouth, not the fork.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc 3 месяца назад +10

      I think I'll be carrying my own from now on.

    • @modestoca25
      @modestoca25 3 месяца назад +17

      They wash the forks...

    • @jessicacanfield5058
      @jessicacanfield5058 3 месяца назад +1

      Hahaha

  • @tadtranclere3729
    @tadtranclere3729 3 месяца назад +41

    When I went to Turkey during a four-week long trip in high school; we had this dish. This was, by far, my favorite dish on the entire trip. I never knew the name and always assumed it was a special dish made by whichever restaurant we were at. Now I know. Thanks!

  • @marilyn2342
    @marilyn2342 3 месяца назад +43

    It’s so, so reassuring to hear someone with considerable reach talk about their misophonia. So many people don’t know about it, and it’s always so hard for me to tell people about it, so I often just suffer through meals with groups without any music and just chewing noises and silence. Thank you for making people a little more familiar with this.

    • @rao8559
      @rao8559 2 месяца назад +9

      there are places and cultures where chewing loudly and belching after a meal is considered good manners. I am come from a country with many sub cultures that practice this. I find it to be absolutely hellish.

  • @shadowknight7932
    @shadowknight7932 3 месяца назад +464

    Pilaf is a very common dish in my country (Romania), my mom makes it rather often and it was a surprise for me when I first learned that it comes from the Ottomans, even though it does make sense seeing how much of a influence they had over our culture. I am really curious to see how similar (or different) this is to what I am used to!

    • @Edi-zp4wp
      @Edi-zp4wp 3 месяца назад +42

      I am also Romanian, and as you probably noticed our variant is a lot different, but it makes sense since you probably couldn't find a lot of these ingredients at that time, so our ancestors had to improvise and replace with other things that they had.

    • @mariusdragoe2888
      @mariusdragoe2888 3 месяца назад +13

      It's really just the name that that we took. In Ottoman pilaf the rice grains have to stay separate from one another which is not how the Romanian pilaf is made.

    • @azkeel7333
      @azkeel7333 3 месяца назад +29

      As far as I know the word "Pilav" comes from Persian. It amazes me to see how different cultures adopt and adapt food. Would definitely want to try the Romanian pilaf :D Love from Turkey.

    • @am17frans
      @am17frans 3 месяца назад +12

      @@Edi-zp4wp This is one of those dishes were the details can vary alot, different spices, with or without carrots, all kinds of meats, and still be the same dish.

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 3 месяца назад +13

      Pilaf is popular all over the Islamic world.

  • @coreenamartinez6114
    @coreenamartinez6114 3 месяца назад +739

    The fact that you mute your chewing is why this is one of my favorite cooking channels (aside from the fact history is awesome). The sound of chewing makes my soul cry.

    • @stephaniedesmond8329
      @stephaniedesmond8329 3 месяца назад +33

      Agreed! Thank you for not chewing at us.

    • @jamesruth100
      @jamesruth100 3 месяца назад +47

      It's honestly such a kind decision on his part. For me, part of my autism manifests as misophonia, and the sound of chewing is a huge trigger for me; it makes my blood boil, my skin crawl, and makes me sick to my stomach.
      I'm genuinely so grateful that he mutes himself because so many food youtubers don't, and it completely gatekeeps me from watching their videos.

    • @thedunelady
      @thedunelady 3 месяца назад +38

      Misophones represent! ✊🏼 Max, you are not alone.

    • @NameTaken123
      @NameTaken123 3 месяца назад +12

      100%. There are other cooking channels I enjoy but I often have to skip the parts of the videos where they're eating. Idk why but it's like nails on a chalkboard to me.

    • @Albert-Arthur-Wison225
      @Albert-Arthur-Wison225 3 месяца назад

      Good Lord ! It’s just as well that you lot,..so finicky about such an elemental ‘ mammalistic ‘ act as ( gasp ! ) CHEWING,..do not live here in Japan ! Or, in fact, virtually anywhere in Asia, really,..as the relished slurps, chews, gnawings, and interminable commentary on the satisfaction ( or otherwise ) of the dish in question would drive you all bonkers ! 😂 😂😂 I’m genuinely curious. As a chap of Asian derivation, what is it, exactly, that appalls denizens of the Anglosphere so mightily about the sounds of hearty eating !? 😂 Best not venture to a yum cha in HK, or, a neighbourhood ramen eatery in suburban Japan, chaps ! 😂

  • @baldrick1485
    @baldrick1485 Месяц назад +12

    I have never watched a better cooking video in my life. Not even from any of the "celebrity" chefs who lack any intellect in the first place. Thank you for this unmatched beautiful and entertaining "lecture".

  • @gypsyqueen2015
    @gypsyqueen2015 3 месяца назад +28

    Thank you for the more formal history of one of my favorite childhood comfort foods. Mom would make Ajem pilaf with any leftover lamb or chicken we had. We are of Armenian descent but my grandparents were born in Turkey. Our pilaf was more savory-long grain rice, thin noodles and maybe some pine nuts sautéed in butter/olive oil until brown then cooked in chicken broth.
    Only as an adult did I start to add some middle eastern spices and a well browned onion to my broth. As an everyday dish made with leftovers, we didn’t mold it - just served it right out of the pot.

    • @Aphelia.
      @Aphelia. 3 месяца назад +5

      afiyet olsun 💜

    • @dianak9862
      @dianak9862 2 месяца назад +1

      turkey is your home too brother❤

  • @leenoah1505
    @leenoah1505 3 месяца назад +206

    I used to frequent a restaurant that was the domain of a chef from Lebanon. You would pay a set price and your table was yours for the night. There would be course after course, always a surprise. I don't recall pilaf, but the end of the meal was always Turkish coffee. After the dishes were cleared there would be music and dancing, trading of jokes, and inevitability more food and more coffee. I'm so grateful to have had this unique experience, especially since it happened in Wisconsin.

    • @finnshepherd97
      @finnshepherd97 3 месяца назад +2

      Where at in Wisconsin?

    • @leenoah1505
      @leenoah1505 3 месяца назад +6

      @@finnshepherd97 - LaCrosse

    • @Crazy_Diamond_75
      @Crazy_Diamond_75 3 месяца назад +13

      That sounds... absolutely amazing. My university had a random hole-in-the-wall Lebanese kebab place in an otherwise heavily-curated suburban UTC, and I swear it was the best restaurant there by a country mile. They're long gone now, but man, I miss that place.

    • @salywazze9763
      @salywazze9763 3 месяца назад +4

      So you had many mezza plates my friend. We have them at restaurants in Lebanon, many small dishes of hot and cold appetizers. At home we usually just cook stews

    • @Shaytan.666
      @Shaytan.666 3 месяца назад +1

      Sound like a normal Mediterranean/Middle Eastern restaurant to me 😂
      That's why I love visiting these countries, they always remind me of Turkey 🙂

  • @sergeykomarov2203
    @sergeykomarov2203 3 месяца назад +146

    In Russia, Ukraine and many Asian republics, this dish is called plov. Cumin, raisins, barberry and saffron are also added there. All this is done on fat tail fat.

    • @rayalbrektson5559
      @rayalbrektson5559 3 месяца назад +2

      So true! I would spend three weeks at a time there in Kiev, and a housekeeper would come in and make plov at least twice a week. Yum. Not much meat, though!

    • @TurKishsoulja
      @TurKishsoulja 3 месяца назад +8

      They have the dish due to the Tatars.

    • @ASAS-dn4ve
      @ASAS-dn4ve 3 месяца назад +3

      This should be not the ordinary pilav, but cooked in dough, "otkidnoy", very similar to Azery pilav.

    • @hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561
      @hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561 3 месяца назад +8

      Raisins, barberry and saffron, that is exceedingly Persian.

    • @jaspervanheycop9722
      @jaspervanheycop9722 3 месяца назад +8

      That explains why Max couldn't flip his pilaf, he used what looks like pretty lean lamb, not the glorious fatty stuff.

  • @farsicalspeaking3356
    @farsicalspeaking3356 Месяц назад +4

    I remember a first date with a guy when I was 23 going to San Francisco for dinner at a Middle Eastern restaurant. Sitting on cushions at a low table, being served a main dish of my choice (rabbit in a wonderful sauce for me) along with several plates for the table of things like pilaf (it wasn't the last dish as in the Ottoman days), cucumber salad in a tangy sauce, cooked vegies, a potato dish, and a few more dishes interspersed with flat bread for sopping up juices. Before the meal we were given towels to dry our hands after the wait staff poured warm water over our hands, then we dove into the meal. We washed our hands again, then finished the meal with a very sweet, flowery dessert of ricey-something and rose water tea, and a final hand washing. The dinner took about 2 hours and It was a marvelous experience. Eating with fingers, even with hot foods like the rabbit, was novel but after a few minutes seemed quite natural for the delicious foods we ate. I took many friends (and other dates) back to this restaurant for years. It wasn't the feast Max describes of almost endless dishes, but it was wonderful and introduced me to a lifelong love for middle eastern cuisine.

  • @divab63
    @divab63 3 месяца назад +17

    My mother’s family has a recipe for what we called holiday pilaf. It was served with roast leg of lamb for Easter and uses ground lamb and almonds and fideo browned in rendered lamb fat before the rice is added in. Seasonings are salt, pepper and allspice.

  • @elderswanderingcircus2341
    @elderswanderingcircus2341 3 месяца назад +76

    There is a reason Uyghur etiquette kept being followed through Ottoman. "Uygur" or "Uygar" means civilized in Turkish, previous Turkish cultures were mostly nomadic while Uygur culture formed actual cities and settled. Same culture continued with Seljuks and Ottomans when they migrated to Anatolia and settled there. Turkish culture adopted the western method of everyone having their own plates now, but we still prefer having a lot of smaller side dishes and putting it into our plate rather than having 5 course meals. Closest example would be a thanksgiving meal where everyone eats small portions of their favorite dishes from a big selection from the table. Pilav is no longer the last dish of a Turkish meal tough it is still quite popular. And even when you eat meals with your hand you usually use bread to pick food up rather than trying to pick rice up with your hands. Drinking coffe after the meal is common and quite practical. Caffeine instantly moves the digestive tract by relieving stomach and instestine muscles. It is quite effective to drink coffee 40-50 minutes after a meal.

    • @utkua
      @utkua 3 месяца назад +5

      Pilav never was a last dish, I think lady documented just happened to been such dinners.

    • @SonOfTheChinChin
      @SonOfTheChinChin 3 месяца назад

      -9000000000 social credits

    • @samalaimukhametova7290
      @samalaimukhametova7290 3 месяца назад

      Есть ещё полукочевая

  • @craigsawyer6453
    @craigsawyer6453 3 месяца назад +149

    Took my wonderful wife to a Turkish restraint a few years ago, never thought I could recreate the amazing flavors. Thank you Max, you bring the world to our tables.

    • @14031993
      @14031993 3 месяца назад +7

      Turkish restraint?

    • @theuser810
      @theuser810 3 месяца назад

      @@14031993 I think he meant restaurant

    • @hassanbolagligsman
      @hassanbolagligsman 3 месяца назад

      @@14031993 he had turkish men restrain her so he could savour the flavour

    • @LeftLaneHog.308
      @LeftLaneHog.308 3 месяца назад

      ​@@14031993 yea its a new thing

    • @martinn.6082
      @martinn.6082 3 месяца назад +8

      That typo sounds like something someone in dwarf fortress would do.
      "I was near a masterful restraint once. It was enlightening."

  • @deelitebaby
    @deelitebaby Месяц назад +5

    Hey! Thank you for doing this! I am Turkish and did not know about a lot of this. I was always taught strictly to never pick and choose from a serving dish - just take whatever is closest to you. I think about this every time I’m at a dinner… I know that in Chinese culture you are also not supposed to cut your food at the table, it was considered disrespectful to the food itself. Also, I had read (not sure where!) that back when Turks were still in Central Asia, it was customary for guests to bring their own spoons, which were often very ornate and carried in their own silk bag. Not sure if you came across that. Anyway, thank you, this was wonderful.

  • @16.chapel
    @16.chapel 3 месяца назад +17

    I am a foodie by no means, but I love your videos so much! As a fan of Roman and Ottoman history, something about these videos really connects me with the people that I have studied for so long. Thank you for sharing all of this amazing content for free.

    • @Brooklynrapcity
      @Brooklynrapcity 2 месяца назад +1

      By the way the Roman empire and the Ottoman Empire were twins , They were similar to each other in many respects, one was a Christian reign and the other was a Muslim reign, that was the only difference between them.

  • @WolvenMother
    @WolvenMother 3 месяца назад +77

    The proverb
    "Humans are not rare, but humanity is rare."
    Speaks volumes for all the disgusting things going on in the world today.
    I replayed that multiple times to make sure I heard it right, and read it right. This is not because I couldn't comprehend, It felt like something I needed to hear in I'm soul.

    • @mustafaberkdabanca7659
      @mustafaberkdabanca7659 3 месяца назад +27

      "Kutagdu bilig" means "knowledge of happiness". It is one of the oldest works written in Turkish.

  • @aoabali
    @aoabali 3 месяца назад +87

    The dough might or might not be an improved lid but there is also "perde pilavi" - curtain pilaf - where the entire meal is encased in a crispy "curtain" of dough like some kind of a pie. That is in fact a fancier and rarer presentation of pilaf. I wonder if the original recipe might have been going for something like that.

    • @kyrab7914
      @kyrab7914 3 месяца назад +4

      I assumed that it was similar to medieval (I think?) times when a "coffin" of bread was often used to serve things but was not intended to be eaten

    • @hannibalburgers477
      @hannibalburgers477 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@kyrab7914i thought it was called trench.
      But yeah, it sounds like something like "coffin"

    • @mehmetkoroglu4597
      @mehmetkoroglu4597 Месяц назад

      Nah, we still use dough to close the pan adequately in our village

    • @kadimsilahtar
      @kadimsilahtar Месяц назад

      Valla, perde adıyla ilgili soru işaretleri var çünkü koyunun karın kısmındaki yağa kimi yerde çember kimi yerde de perde derler ve bu pilavın yapımında kullanılır, adı geçen karın yağı bazı organları çember şeklinde perdeler. 😊

  • @davidcox3076
    @davidcox3076 3 месяца назад +8

    It's amazing how popular various pilav recipes are over such a large area, from Eastern Europe through the Middle East and into Central Asia.

    • @ajam3086
      @ajam3086 2 месяца назад +2

      originate from Persia, Central Asia

  • @Dumpstermuffin1
    @Dumpstermuffin1 3 месяца назад +3

    the ottoment proverbs with characters with bad manners is such an interesting concept

  • @irtesunver8624
    @irtesunver8624 3 месяца назад +65

    We still offer coffee to guests in Cyprus but in modern Turkiye people drink and offer tea instead of coffee.

    • @afinoxi
      @afinoxi 3 месяца назад +26

      Both are common. Often times both are offered if the visit lasts long. Completely depends on the host, there's no definitive thing as people offer tea instead of coffee.

    • @belisarius6949
      @belisarius6949 3 месяца назад +1

      They have become weak...

    • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled
      @myhandlehasbeenmishandled 3 месяца назад +1

      I've heard this. Yet, in Balkans, places like Bosnia and Serbia we still drink Turkish coffee. And they drink a lot of it in Bosnia!
      My parents and grandparents used to make a large cezve of coffee. So each person can have more than one cup. In size these cups were very similar to tea cups.
      At the end if they wanted more they would add more ground coffee and water to cezve and make it again. They did this a few times a day. Breakfast, at work, after dinner. And they smoked cigarettes while drinking coffee.
      They drank tea but rarely. Sometimes with breakfast or if they were sick.
      In Serbia they serve only one cup per person.

    • @utkua
      @utkua 3 месяца назад +2

      Turks started drinking tea after WWI when they were cut for a while from their colonies in Yemen.

    • @farhadchaudhry
      @farhadchaudhry Месяц назад

      He had to say coffee because of his sponsor

  • @FrikInCasualMode
    @FrikInCasualMode 3 месяца назад +130

    Pilaf or plov is an extremely widespread dish across Eastern and Southern Europe and big chunk of Asia. Versatile too, because it can be cooked in innumerable ways.

    • @theaizere
      @theaizere 3 месяца назад +19

      Huge in Central Asia

    • @alexandersolodovnikov4840
      @alexandersolodovnikov4840 3 месяца назад +16

      Basically each county in Central Asia gеt their version of that dish.

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 3 месяца назад +2

      Personally, I associate it to the Antilles ^^
      And it's a classic of french cuisine, but it's just a method of cooking plain rice, no flavourings, so it's boring XD

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 3 месяца назад +2

      @@theaizerethat’s because it originated there.

    • @Psycorde
      @Psycorde 3 месяца назад +7

      Could call it "Rice with meat and whatever else"

  • @chayanika8155
    @chayanika8155 3 месяца назад +17

    This was one of your most hilarious videos!
    Regarding the 'mess' thing:
    A) you seem to have no idea what a mess of this move actually could be. You actually did it so elegantly!
    B) i think a possible reason that they could it do it more neatly could actually be what you had said earlier, that their lids didn't really fit their pots. So they might have had a much larger lid for their pot which could have made the flipping part easier.

  • @pnartanar2983
    @pnartanar2983 2 месяца назад +7

    RUclips recommended this channel and when I saw its content, I decided to watch it immediately. The Ottoman Empire has many legacies that have survived to this day, combined with modern Turkish cuisine, and it is truly proud to see a foreigner making one of them and also conveying its history! Thank you ❤

    • @AlfaHakan
      @AlfaHakan 2 месяца назад

      Gurur verici, aynen😀

  • @Tout-Le-Monde02
    @Tout-Le-Monde02 3 месяца назад +45

    8:40 - Believe Ye me .... I literally thought of George Costanza too when I heard of the infamous Double Dipper ..... Imagine having a knave like George in old Ottoman Turkish time too ..... truly a timeless character ......

    • @thenutella8846
      @thenutella8846 3 месяца назад +3

      Oh I can just imagine it, he's a bumbling ottoman bureaucrat who spends the entire episode trying to eat the food around the room instead of discussing serious business with the rest of the government officials. Sneaking around taking spoonfuls off of people's plates to everyone's annoyance.

  • @Laura-fn6fl
    @Laura-fn6fl 3 месяца назад +100

    Riso pilaf and arroz pilaf were quite popular in Italy and Spain as well. I remember my mamma (I am Italian) making it for guests at dinner quite often. But then, in the past twenty or thirty years it must have gone out of fashion since I never had it again. I had not thought about this recipe for a very long time until I saw this video. Thank you Max for bringing back childhood memories

    • @WinstonSmithGPT
      @WinstonSmithGPT 3 месяца назад +8

      It’s almost a Sicilian flavor profile.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 3 месяца назад

      I wonder who came up with the recipe first. Considering a lot of Southern Europe was overrun by the folks who make up the Ottoman Empire, the Ottomans could have copied this recipe from the Spanish or wherever else they conquered in Europe that the dish originated in.

    • @CW-rx2js
      @CW-rx2js 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@anti-ethniccleansing465 not really....it's originally a Middle Eastern dish

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 3 месяца назад +2

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 Persia.

    • @isorna2456
      @isorna2456 3 месяца назад +1

      I wonder if the Spanish paella has its roots in the pilaf as well?

  • @EmrahBesci
    @EmrahBesci 3 месяца назад +1

    Great piece! The details you are giving are perfect. Really appreciate these Ottoman series! 👏🏻

  • @fashehc
    @fashehc 3 месяца назад +7

    Living in the Arab world and married to one, this dish has been one of my favorites. It’s called in Arabic ma’loubeh instead of pilaf because it’s pointing to the fact that the dish will be flipped upsidedown. I’ve never had a failure in flipping but one main reason may be that you need to beat on the bottom of the pot to loosen the food. I do it with my hands and/or a wooden spoon. I’ve also made many kinds of it besides the usual eggplant or cauliflower ones typical here (Jordan/Palestine). Now I’m into making vegan ones with mushrooms and allspice. I have never had one like you described in this video. I’m all for making it your way, ahem, the Ottoman way. Great video.

    • @Levvvame
      @Levvvame 11 дней назад

      This is not Maklube. It is similar but Maklube is different. :) Turks has maklube as well since it came from the arabic part of Ottomans. But make no mistake becouse of the "flip" move. :)

  • @jojojoma3026
    @jojojoma3026 3 месяца назад +35

    Oh, and here I thought you were just being polite in your videos by chewing silently but THANK YOU FOR BEING THAT PERSON AND MUTING THE CHEWING - THE SOUND HURTS SO MUCH THANK YOU THANK YOU

  • @brookechang4942
    @brookechang4942 3 месяца назад +180

    Fascinating! Just for cultural exchange, I feel compelled to point out that in many East Asian cultures, slurping soup and/or noodles is considered a sign of appreciation, not rudeness. The idea of food being cut up small enough to not need a knife reminds me a lot of how stir-fries are supposed to be made, though!

    • @arianewinter4266
      @arianewinter4266 3 месяца назад +12

      I am also a big Fan of having everything small enough to BE easely eating With Just one Utensil, spoon, fork, chopsticks or hands. Not a Fan of Always needing knife and fork or all three AS ITS usual where I am from. If you already Cut stuff in the kitchen, you can do IT all the way.
      I am "lazy" Like that 😂

    • @demeterruinedmylife3199
      @demeterruinedmylife3199 3 месяца назад +5

      Yeah. My mom used to tell me that, by slurping, we can show "how good the food is" much better than any words.

    • @michaelwright8978
      @michaelwright8978 3 месяца назад +4

      That, stir-fry being bite sized, is also for a similar reason, Confucian thought held that only an individual of coarse sentiments wouldn't be upset by a knife at the table, since it would serve as a reminder of the slaughter of the animal.

    • @mehmetgurdal
      @mehmetgurdal 3 месяца назад +4

      thats because in eastern cultures soup always consists a form of noodle.
      its understandable. but in turkish or generally middle east culture soups are thicker. some are so thick they can be confused with porridge.

    • @gwennorthcutt421
      @gwennorthcutt421 3 месяца назад +1

      @@arianewinter4266 i know what you mean. i hate having to "pick" at my food, i just want to eat it, not think about it! its why i dont like most steaks, since i hate the texture of the fat. having food thats little bits, like pilaf, are my favorite!

  • @stevenlevasee6742
    @stevenlevasee6742 2 месяца назад +4

    I learned so much from this video, thank you!
    An Iranian friend makes something very similar but uses a deep, cast iron (rather than stainless steel) pot. The cast iron better helps the rice create a thin shell which keeps it standing up tall when you flip it over.

    • @PatriotOfPersia
      @PatriotOfPersia Месяц назад

      Fun Fact Name of This Ottoman Dish is "Acem Pilav" Which Means "Persian Rice"
      "Pilaf Pilav or Polo" is Persian Dish in Orgin it's Not Turkish !!! Many of Our Foods labeled as Turkish because of our government don't care about our culture

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese3300 3 месяца назад +6

    OMG, while you were describing the table manners book, I was thinking to myself, "It's like an ancient Goofus and Gallant thing," and then you said it! I'm always surprised to hear someone much younger than me who knows about stuff from my childhood! This dish looks delicious, too. And regards the absence of knives, I once heard the use of chopsticks being explained to me by saying that it was extremely rude to expect your guest to have to do the butchery of their food at the table.
    And THANK YOU VERY MUCH for muting the chew noises! I used to feel so guilty when my elderly mom lived with me because I liked to eat with her but had to wear earplugs when we had dinner. I simply cannot tolerate chew noises, and it's very thoughtful of you to mute them in your videos.

  • @gingerella7934
    @gingerella7934 3 месяца назад +203

    Ode to Max and Tasting History
    Max Miller, what a history buff
    Also cooking up lots of tasty stuff,
    And on top of that, we get lessons in history
    Now many foods are no longer a mystery!
    Where did Lobscouse or Pilaf come from you ask?
    Max will explain, he’s up to the task.
    He makes us smarter, that Max Miller
    His content is not boring or empty filler
    He entertains with knowledge and wit
    And his culinary skills are quite legit
    The little Pokémon stuffies give us cuteness attack
    And do not forget the clack clack of the hard tack
    So thank you Max, you are the best
    To this all your subscribers can attest

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +41

      😍 thank you!

    • @Firegen1
      @Firegen1 3 месяца назад +15

      Beautifully written 👏🏾

    • @missbeans
      @missbeans 3 месяца назад +7

      Brava!

    • @Franky_Sthein
      @Franky_Sthein 3 месяца назад +5

      Very well written, bravo!

    • @not_jon_vendi
      @not_jon_vendi 3 месяца назад +4

      this is so perfect! I can attest!!

  • @thanotaphobia6031
    @thanotaphobia6031 3 месяца назад +59

    I'm with you on the chewing thing! I don't know if you've ever looked into it, but there's something something called misophonia, which is an auditory processing issue where certain sounds trigger the fight or flight response instead of reacting normally in your brain. I also have to listen to TV or music while eating, especially with family! I actually noticed that you don't usually have exaggerated or loud chewing noises in your videos and it's part of why I like your channel so much :) Plus you're always well-researched and as a foodie and an archaeologist, it always hits the spot. Great video!

    • @Thank.you.kindly_Lee
      @Thank.you.kindly_Lee 3 месяца назад +17

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia
      Yes, misophonia is real, and is likely to be how the brain is "wired". It is lifelong, and not anxiety driven although it can be anxiety inducing.
      I have misophonia, which made family dinners growing up miserable for me! My Mother played music, allowed me to wear sound reducing gear, and eat so slowly I could finish my meal in quiet bliss after the noisy eaters left the table. Thank you, Mom, for being understanding and helpful.
      And bless you for editing out those sounds! Hurray, such consideration.

    • @mikimayagain
      @mikimayagain 3 месяца назад +6

      I have developed this over the last 25 years or so. (I'm 66.) So annoying, I really wish it hadn't happened but, oh well. My daughter and I watch RUclips while we eat dinner, which when you talked about your dislike, I pointed at the TV and said, "see, it's a real thing." Lol.

    • @nixgeldring3564
      @nixgeldring3564 3 месяца назад +2

      Was coming here to say this; glad I looked through the comments first ;)
      Misophonia is an active field of research with people trying to understand how it develops.

  • @karenkieffer3684
    @karenkieffer3684 3 месяца назад

    Once again, one of your very best! It was so interesting learning about a fascinating culture that we rarely hear about here in the West. Your story telling about the characters at the banquet, as well as the actual historical travelers and writers, was superb! I will likely never make the pilaf, but I loved your show. Thanks!

  • @cerenakyuz7791
    @cerenakyuz7791 2 месяца назад +1

    As a Turk myself, we loove eating and creating and trying new dishes from different parts of the country. I really appreciate you mentioned ancient Turkish resources such as Kutadgu Bilig which is taught to students from middle school. And as a little tip for the turning the pilav - which is pronounced like pea-love instead of f - you cook it just enough to leave some water encapsulated in rice which adds cohesion to the meal and makes turning easier well done and thank you

  • @tombristowe846
    @tombristowe846 3 месяца назад +92

    Years ago I used to know a girl who was half Persian and she used to cook this. She called it Tadik, if I remember correctly. She always had rice at the bottom of the pan and round the sides.
    It was cooked slowly until the rice had absorbed all the liquid (got to get the amount of liquid right) then cooked on further so that the rice at the bottom and sides started to brown, but not burn,
    a bit like the delicious crust that you get at the bottom of a Paella, which the Spanish call the socarrat. It must be done in the oven so the rice browns all round. When it's ready it will turn out onto a dish, a dome or cylinder of toasted rice which reveals all when you cut into it.

    • @stevenworden7890
      @stevenworden7890 3 месяца назад +13

      Also like the crust on dolsot bi bim bop.

    • @tombristowe846
      @tombristowe846 3 месяца назад

      @@stevenworden7890 You've got me there...is that Korean?

    • @stevenworden7890
      @stevenworden7890 3 месяца назад

      It is, bi bim bop (or bab, or bap, depending on who is translating) is the national dish of South Korea. Dolsot indicates that the bi bim bop is served in a very hot stone bowl, which makes the rice on the bottom develop a tasty crust.@@tombristowe846

    • @pearlstar5323
      @pearlstar5323 3 месяца назад +22

      Tahdig is the rice layer that crisps up, likely she was making a Tahchin dish which is the dish you’re describing that needs the Tahdig layer to create the dome shape your referencing.
      Iranians have tons of polo recipes that always includes the tahdig layer.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 3 месяца назад

      @@tombristowe846 - Although I have not had that dish, I am sure that I have seen it on the menu at Korean restaurants.

  • @caomouse8829
    @caomouse8829 3 месяца назад +939

    Can you make an oldest dish ever recorded in history?

    • @humblesparrow
      @humblesparrow 3 месяца назад +284

      He's come pretty close with the ancient Egyptian tiger nut bread or the Babylonian beer.

    • @AmberS-V
      @AmberS-V 3 месяца назад +143

      I vote oldest dishes in every (major) culture as well :)

    • @liamw6562
      @liamw6562 3 месяца назад +151

      Roasted mammoth

    • @HalfmoonForge
      @HalfmoonForge 3 месяца назад +92

      He has a 4000 year old recipe already take a look through his uploads I believe it was sumerian or babylonian

    • @iamthelibs1629
      @iamthelibs1629 3 месяца назад +45

      I think that would be a fantastic deep dive, if nothing else. Because if you wanna get wild with it, I suppose you could argue that cave paintings or neolithic art depicting meat being fire roasted could technically count. It details the only ingredient and tool needed, makes the method clear, and is missing no steps. Could be fun as a thought experiment even if it is difficult to nail down for sure

  • @EmirKATIRCI
    @EmirKATIRCI 3 месяца назад +53

    I'm in awe that you dive this deep for an Ottoman Dish. But I'll also try to elaborate against the westerners experiences. First of all Turkish flat bread is primary element of Turkish cuisine at the time. This bread let you to have origami style folding options to use it like spoon or a fork depending on the meal you're having. Meaning it might look like you're eating with your hands but in reality you're utilizing the flat bread. I also can't talk about anyone's experience under the age of 40 but I personally experienced the customary education when I was much younger about how to use the flatbread to scoop soup or yogurt or pilaf or just the dish you are having using just the bread. I can't talk about the palace people but I can talk about the ordinary people where they don't use their hands but use their spoons as depicted in many of those miniatures from Ottoman era. Because that was the main way to eat for a regular person and their family. There will be one dish it may be a pilav or a stew or a soup or whatever... Whole family get together to consume it using their wooden spoons. Funnily enough we also have a saying that goes like "Chicken, Fish and Head(of cows or sheep) these are supposed to be eaten by hand"/"Tavuk,Balık,Kelle, bunlar yenir elle...". So in Turkish cuisine eating by hand is a very complicated issue. For example I remember going to Konya city when I was like around 6 or 7 years old to visit Mevlana/Rumi's tomb. We went to a restaurant that do classical Turkish tandoori lamb. They refused to give us utensils like forks or spoons saying we need to eat with our hands to properly enjoy the food but they supplied more than enough flat breads. Any ways I might have digressed from the main issue but I just wanted to share my personal experience as Turkish person.

    • @rosengul1076
      @rosengul1076 2 месяца назад

      Hocam, sizi bilmiyorum ama biz Uygurlar çok yakın zamanlara kadar pilavı elle yerdik. Düğünlere giderken kapıdan girdiğimiz an ellerimize so dökmek için bekleyen biri olurdu, yıkar öyle geçerdik sofraya mesala...

    • @Levvvame
      @Levvvame 11 дней назад

      @@rosengul1076 Ben bulgur pilavini hala lavas ekmegi ile ve elle bandirarak yiyorum :D

  • @MsLeenite
    @MsLeenite 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you, Max. Beautiful illustrations!

  • @kosmosyche
    @kosmosyche 3 месяца назад +45

    The best pilaf I've ever eaten was in Uzbekistan. I was there for only a week and every single day I tried a different one in a different place. They were all awesome. It's something of a specialty for them. If you know a good restaurant with Uzbek cuisine, you got to do yourself a favor and try pilaf (plov) there.

    • @user-yw7bn6yw6f
      @user-yw7bn6yw6f 3 месяца назад +2

      My father is from the region, i recommend it ive hosted many dinner parties with plov and ive never had anyone dislike it, ill comment the recipe give me a sec

    • @user-yw7bn6yw6f
      @user-yw7bn6yw6f 3 месяца назад +9

      PLOV (OSH) RECIPE (РЕЦЕПТ ПЛОВА)
      Ingredients:
      1kg lamb/beef- cut into large pieces bone
      100g beef fat
      300ml sunflower oil
      2-3 onions- chopped(if very big onion only one needed)
      2 cups Rice (you can get away with 3 if you like, but the ratio works better with 2 i think)
      1kg carrots
      300g raisins
      like 4 spoons salt
      1 spoon cumin
      Notes:
      -the rice I use for this recipe is a longer grain (basmati as it is readily available for all), there are better more shorter grains for palov but they are extremely difficult to find, and require a lot more work and effort which even I personally don’t do.
      -we add golden raisins (qishmish) large black raisins and (optionally although i personalltydislike it) barberry (2:1:0.25 ratio), if you are going to freeze this i do not recommend adding raisins, instead either add more sugar, or if you want when you are reheating add the raisins then.
      -add garlic if u want, some people in my family added it but i personally dislike the taste
      -the raw cane brown sugar is a difficult find, you don’t need much, you can omit it if you don’t have, add regular sugar if you must.
      -the measuring spoon I use is the large end found in medicine bottles, which I believe is 5ml.
      Recipe:
      1. Heat beef fat till it has seperated into liquid oil and take out the non liquid stuff (very tasty unhealthy snack), then add the sunflower oil
      2. Add 1-2 onions and fry till golden
      3. Fry lamb or beef with 2 spoons salt in the oil with the onions (big chunks, most of the time we use lamb shoulder as beef is poor quality in butcher shops where i live, but if you can get beef its preffered). Add 1 more fresh raw onion.
      4. Add carrots and fry a small amount of time(do not move it and only for a few mins).
      5. Add raisins and (brown sugar if u wish.)
      6. Add cumin and add another spoon of salt.
      7. Add like 3 cups water.
      8. Let it cook for like 30 mins.
      9. Add rice (wash for 30 mins doesnt need to be completely clear water its okay).
      10. Water ratio depends on what kinda rice u got, basmati takes less but generally u want like 1.5cm or so slightly above the rice.
      11. Once water no longer chilling on top of rice, poke holes.
      12. Keep heat on until all that water goes. Low heat.
      13. Wet a cloth and wrap it around lid, then cover the pan for 20 min. Mix the ingredients from the bottom to the top.
      14. Serve!! and enjoy!

    • @garytheosophilus
      @garytheosophilus 3 месяца назад +1

      Plov and manti are favorites

    • @JuniperBoy
      @JuniperBoy 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@user-yw7bn6yw6f For me, the whole head of garlic, which softens and sweetens in the cooking, is a must! I also rather like the barberries, because their sharpness goes well with the fattiness of the meat. But I think a lot of it is what one grew up eating: every family seems to have their own variation of the recipe throughout central Asia. I wish these cuisines were better known in the West!

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 3 месяца назад +2

      How interesting! I follow a channel called 'Inside Russia', run by a Russian exile who started a group called 'Tashkent Breakfast Club'. He put up a video of their visit to a pilaf restaurant there, where he was allowed to film some in the kitchen.

  • @marwaqoura7804
    @marwaqoura7804 3 месяца назад +71

    Great video , I am Egyptian and it was very interseting seeing that the original recipe used 'Egyptian ( short grain) rice ' ..We still cook that recipe in Egypt specially at banquets but the funny thing is that we use Basmati long grain Asian rice not the Egyptian one ...😸

    • @aysaner
      @aysaner 2 месяца назад +1

      Egypt, which came under the rule of the Ottoman Empire in 1517, officially remained part of the Empire until 1914. So they stayed too much in there also they have a habit to grab the best of the best from the each country that they controlled.

    • @marwaqoura7804
      @marwaqoura7804 2 месяца назад

      @@aysaner Sadly true ...

    • @emre28oz79
      @emre28oz79 2 месяца назад +3

      Ottoman times best quality rice came from Fizan city ( I think it’s in Egypt). Usually only rich could effort it. Turkish ottomans only ate bulgur wheat .

    • @marwaqoura7804
      @marwaqoura7804 2 месяца назад +3

      @@emre28oz79 Very true and still Egyptian rice one of the best qualities in the world and a major crop here which comes second in importance after wheat to Egyptians ,but the best thing is that we export it too ,,some recipes specially Egyptian ones like Mahshi محشي and Koshari كوشري (our national dish ) , sweet rice puddings can't be made with any other kind of rice . The Asian kinds are good for banquets with meats and poultery only , but not an everyday dish . My family used to grow cotton & rice as I live in the Nile Delta ..I remember one of my Grandfathers used to grow a very rare kind of pricey rice that we call it عنبري (amber like ) as it has special aroma to it .Egypt is a beautiful country full of goodness .Blessings 🙏❤🇪🇬🌷

    • @spiderh
      @spiderh 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@aysaner Egypt did not only came under the rule of Ottoman Empire. Before this there Mamelukes (Ed - Devletü't Türkiyye). And this food is a Turkish food, not only Ottomans.

  • @eff1es
    @eff1es 3 месяца назад +7

    From a misophonia sufferer, thank you for muting your own chewing on these videos! It makes a huge difference and is appreciated.

  • @brickchains1
    @brickchains1 2 месяца назад

    this is my favorite youtube channel. youre professional and charming every time. and the seinfeld reference clinched it. it was required and you delivered

  • @CineMiamParis
    @CineMiamParis 3 месяца назад +39

    Aha! Time for a bit of kitchen pedantry. Re.sealing your pot with dough. It is still done in some French dishes, even though our pots close well. I happen to have the same orange Le Creusot pot you can see in Max’s background. Yet some recipes call for a « cocotte lutée », the « lutée » bit meaning sealed with a dough of flour and water. It does concentrate the aromas. And for a pilaf, it will make your layers stick together. I use that pot, and that technique, for pilaf.
    Loved the video and the recipe. Brilliant research and so entertaining. Thanks Max!

    • @deniaridley
      @deniaridley 3 месяца назад +1

      I was just going to comment that I've seen this in France.

  • @barbaraborgia3289
    @barbaraborgia3289 3 месяца назад +85

    My Christian Arab hosts served this dish to my pilgrimage group in Bethlehem. It plopped out from a gigantic pot, easily 8 gallons. And they were very proud that it all stayed together. Delicious as well.

    • @salut1810
      @salut1810 3 месяца назад +24

      I assume you mean Maqlouba which is a Palestinian dish and is different from this pilaf.

    • @sustainableliving6319
      @sustainableliving6319 2 месяца назад +1

      @@salut1810rice and meat

    • @rajababy2009
      @rajababy2009 2 месяца назад +4

      maqlooba is arab dish well they are all some related as we learn from each others

    • @nomadybb1-66er7
      @nomadybb1-66er7 2 месяца назад

      it doesn't look like

  • @abdulaaljm
    @abdulaaljm 2 месяца назад

    All your explanation and your cook is really amazing.
    I am speechless after all this.
    Keep it up.

  • @DoggonePony
    @DoggonePony 3 месяца назад +6

    As a fellow misophonia sufferer, your efforts in editing out chewing noises are much appreciated.

  • @toonezon4836
    @toonezon4836 3 месяца назад +33

    there are actuaally a couple of tricks to getting the flip right, 1, tadig method, layer rice, meat, onions, nut, rice, toast the bottom and flip. 2, do as you have it, onions and meat, nuts, rice, but make sure everything is packed tight, also, make sure there's enough fat to fry whats in the pot so that it will release when flipping, 3 dont wait too long before flipping. also you gotta show the plate who's boss, confidence is key when unmolding

    • @catc8927
      @catc8927 3 месяца назад +2

      I’m wondering if maybe the gap between the top of the food in the pot and the surface of the plate was part of Max’s problem?
      If the food went all the way to the edge of the pot, and the flat center of the plate could completely cover the top of the pot, maybe he could directly transfer without things reshuffling in the gap in between?

    • @utkua
      @utkua 3 месяца назад +3

      he needed more fat so bottom would not stick but also rice would stick together.

    • @BadCatCafe
      @BadCatCafe 3 месяца назад +2

      I own only one non-stick skillet of a very specific size with straight sides - just for tadig! Sure gives you a better chance of flipping out the dish and not cracking the lovely rice crust. And getting the right size/depth platter to fit the skillet can take a try or two if you've never done it before. And boy, are you right about showing the plate who's boss - you gotta be confident and just FLIP IT! i can't wait to try THIS recipe!

    • @LaundryFaerie
      @LaundryFaerie 3 месяца назад

      I think Max deserves some credit. Everyone knows it's super tough to stick it on the dismount.

    • @mcomeslast
      @mcomeslast 3 месяца назад

      @@BadCatCafesame! A friend who lived in an area that made this a lot said the same. Nonstick pan means you don’t need as much oil.

  • @Tielyanna
    @Tielyanna 3 месяца назад +93

    I love all your videos, but I’m always especially excited for ones that feature areas outside of the US/West Europe. Thanks for helping me learn about all the places school didn’t bother teaching me about!

    • @mylesjude233
      @mylesjude233 3 месяца назад +7

      Indeed, tis good to have a healthy mix of historical dishes around the world 🌎 😋

  • @freelancepear87kakkoka11
    @freelancepear87kakkoka11 3 месяца назад

    i fully agree with you on the food munching sounds, i need to cover my eating sounds as well with entertainment. one of the reasons i watch your videos is that they often have the perfect length for my meals and the sound mix is very good for covering up other sounds, also your videos are really pleasant to watch as well. and i really appreciate it when you mute the chewing sounds.

  • @fixealterne2754
    @fixealterne2754 Месяц назад +2

    In my Soviet childhood in the Central Asia my favorite feast was a Muslim Ramadan when the ouigoure children brought out from home candies, pastries to share. My God it was the tastiest treat I ve ever tried.

  • @tolgacosgun
    @tolgacosgun 3 месяца назад +69

    Ben bir Türküm ve atalarım ve yemek kültürümüz hakkında hazırlamış olduğunuz bu güzel video için size teşekkür ederim. / I am a Turk and I would like to thank you for this beautiful video you have prepared about my ancestors and our food culture.

  • @IsaacBTTF
    @IsaacBTTF 3 месяца назад +42

    I'm really happy I discovered this channel in 2020.
    I really like the style, the history and cuisine combination and the way Max presents and narrates each video.
    Great job, Max.

  • @PatrickVRegan
    @PatrickVRegan 3 месяца назад

    Absolutely fantastic episode. Very fun to listen to! Thank you for the history! ❤

  • @ismailtorun240
    @ismailtorun240 2 месяца назад

    The clock shows 3:00 am and I want to replay this video again and again. Every second you gave precious infos. Meal is an history and you made us wanderer. Thank you.

  • @barryeldridge4771
    @barryeldridge4771 3 месяца назад +42

    Elinize Saglik! This is said to the cook by any appreciative diners in Turkey and means health and/or blessings to your hands. Seems apropos here. Çok teşekkürler Max.

  • @TheCj126
    @TheCj126 3 месяца назад +48

    With a trip to Istanbul coming up, this was just what I needed! Thanks for everything as always!

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +15

      Oooh have a great trip!

    • @martinn.6082
      @martinn.6082 3 месяца назад +1

      A heads up, I believe that Pilaf nowadays mostly refers to rice cooked in butter with little Vermicelli noodles. It's a side dish you often eat with soup.
      Edit: this is not 100% true, see the commenter below.

    • @sabbutthesabiruone9082
      @sabbutthesabiruone9082 3 месяца назад +2

      @@martinn.6082 Another heads up, an ordinary Pilav is what you just described Vermicelli is optional. It is never a side dish you eat with soup. Its either a meal itself with ingredients as in this video or part of a meal like lets say a beef in a plate served with pilav. Im not completely %100 if i understand the term side dish cuz it feels like an another component served in a different plate complimenting your main plate thus i didnt refer it as a side dish because wherever i have been the pilav is served on the main plate.

    • @martinn.6082
      @martinn.6082 3 месяца назад

      @@sabbutthesabiruone9082 thanks, I've actually never been to Turkey, but I live in Berlin, Germany, and have often had Turkish food. I say soup because the "main course" often consisted of some kind of meat and potatoes in sauce and another plate of pilav. I also asked a friend of mine from Turkey (southern Turkey) to show me how to make pilav, and it was just rice, butter and Vermicelli.
      Thanks for the insights, I will amend my comment.

    • @AtaGunZ
      @AtaGunZ 3 месяца назад +1

      @@martinn.6082 pilav is a generic term for cooked rice(actually, we have other pilavs that aren't actually rice), and the recipe your friend showed you is the "plain rice" dish we have. We sometimes do more special stuff like this, but we usually still just call it pilav, so I understand the confusion!

  • @emredogukan1885
    @emredogukan1885 2 месяца назад

    Perfect storytelling, perfect execution... You are absolutely brilliant, Max! That's how this pilav is done, alright. Thanks for the awesome content.

  • @mrtgrknyksl
    @mrtgrknyksl 3 месяца назад +1

    thank you for this wonderful video,
    at home in Türkiye we still cook a similar recipe on holidays and family gatherings

  • @Granny21
    @Granny21 3 месяца назад +16

    In Aleppo, similar rice was always a part of dinner. Small differences depending on the other mains: pine nuts, other nuts, Lighty toasted. Can be made on top of stove. Parboiled rice is easy.

  • @Firegen1
    @Firegen1 3 месяца назад +18

    Sending Tuesday kindness as not well enough to write. Fascinated to see what is culturally thoughtful and polite in the Ottoman Empire society.

  • @triskerslake3763
    @triskerslake3763 3 месяца назад +2

    Looks scrumptious. I haven't made a pilaf for ages - I must go and do one immediately!

  • @balkantouchlmt2874
    @balkantouchlmt2874 3 месяца назад

    My misophonia thanks you so much! Originally I thought I specifically watch your videos for the content but I never realized I never heard the amplified eating sounds. Don’t misunderstand your content is fascinating. I wish more creators followed your lead.

  • @al-qadi3427
    @al-qadi3427 3 месяца назад +103

    Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in Ottoman and Turkish history and culture in general I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series

    • @CineMiamParis
      @CineMiamParis 3 месяца назад +3

      Thanks for that, will check !

  • @eloquentsarcasm
    @eloquentsarcasm 3 месяца назад +13

    There's just something wholesome about dishes made with simple ingredients, cooked well, and presented well. You might not have presented it as "properly" Turkish, but it looked excellent, and by your expression tasted quite nice, so I count that as a success. While some cultures went for incredibly exotic ingredients and mounds of spice, others used simple fare but in such a way as it appeared and tasted incredible. Maybe it's because I grew up on the poor side of things, but I've always enjoyed those simple dishes far more than the "fancy" ones. Another excellent episode Max!

  • @nejatolgunturk3702
    @nejatolgunturk3702 3 месяца назад

    I thank you for making this video. There are much more other stories about pilav as well. But I laughed the Ogier Ghiselin de Busbecq's memory. He made me laugh after centuries he lived and you bring the story to the platform. Thank you again.

  • @NWard1210
    @NWard1210 3 месяца назад +1

    Gonna give this one a try! 🤤 Thanks Max!

  • @esther_margolis
    @esther_margolis 3 месяца назад +7

    Loved hearing about the problem of food noises. My daughters suffers from this and for years thought she was crazy until sometime in high-school she found out about mysophonia online and realized she wasn't the only one

  • @chaoticdance
    @chaoticdance 3 месяца назад +45

    As someone who is also sensitive to chewing and slurping noises, Im super grateful to your editing job. Thank you!!!

  • @hoodrych9653
    @hoodrych9653 3 месяца назад

    Beautiful video, enjoyed watching every second of it.

  • @rootifera
    @rootifera 3 месяца назад +1

    It's quite fascinating, this is a dish I cook at least a couple of times a month and I pretty much cook it exactly the same way. I don't do layers, it's too much work but I also do the "fill a small bowl and flip into the plate" thing. That's such a "Turkish mum" thing to me haha. I also sprinkle a handful roasted almond flakes on top when serving. Delicious! Oh also, the book Kutadgu Bilig, I think it in today's Turkish it would be "kutlu bilgi" which roughly translates as "blessed knowledge". That's something I remember from high school history class so it might be incorrect. Great video Max!

  • @xeros4000
    @xeros4000 3 месяца назад +13

    My grandmother still makes this, almost the same recipe. its soooooo good. You gotta make it with the meat of a free grazing sheep tho, farm grown sheep taste less(?). Don't know how else to describe it, less sheep-ey i guess. also the trick is to bang on the pot with a wooden spoon a bit before lifting it lol. comes out perfect every time.

  • @nakerusa
    @nakerusa 3 месяца назад +20

    I never expected a Goofus and Gallant reference in my Tasting History 😂! Love this channel and your cook book!

  • @mrduckboibones
    @mrduckboibones 3 месяца назад

    I love this episode, I hadn't heard of any of this great table culture before

  • @docbrown3139
    @docbrown3139 3 месяца назад +1

    I get so excited whenever a new video pops up from Tasting History and I’m not even a foodie. Greetings from across the ocean (Japan)

  • @punkinlady1039
    @punkinlady1039 3 месяца назад +35

    2:16 That spelling of coffee stunlocked me irl

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 3 месяца назад +22

    Oh boy! An ottoman episode? Neat! You always pick some really cool meals!

  • @Katurnips
    @Katurnips Месяц назад

    Yes!!! I appreciate how you mute the chewing sounds so much ❤ seriously! I’m in the same boat 😮‍💨.
    Love your videos always! 🥹

  • @MilkCrateGarage
    @MilkCrateGarage 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video as usual Max!
    This style of pilaf was interesting to compare to my dad's recipe. As far as spices; cumin, coriander, and black and red pepper are what he uses. The primary cooking oil he uses is ghee, and he usually adds chickpeas. When it's in season, he uses quince apple for it's fragrance and unique flavor. The meat can vary between beef, lamb, and more rarely pork; and I recall when he used rabbit meat as an experiment. For the rice, he uses parboiled, long grain Uncle Ben's.

  • @veganmonter
    @veganmonter 3 месяца назад +12

    15:00 - Ahh, Mr Bean Time Travels to the Ottoman Empire I see.

  • @mylesjude233
    @mylesjude233 3 месяца назад +28

    Watching video right now, fascinating stuff. Hope in the future you cover turkish desserts like baklava or turkish delight 😊

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  3 месяца назад +29

      I’ve already done the research for both, so they’re coming.

    • @mylesjude233
      @mylesjude233 3 месяца назад +1

      @TastingHistory Awesome Max, anyway have a good Tuesday 👍

    • @beth12svist
      @beth12svist 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@TastingHistory Yay! Quite excited for baklava! In my previous place of residence the greengrocer was selling it, and I would every now and then buy some - I loved that it often came in bite-sized pieces so I could really have it just as a little treat - and now I rather miss it. 😥 So I'm quite curious about its history. 😉

    • @jack-hq4ek
      @jack-hq4ek 3 месяца назад +2

      @@TastingHistory I'd beg of you to try Menemen and become a part of The Great Menemen Controversy of Turkey.

    • @mwater_moon2865
      @mwater_moon2865 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TastingHistory yay! I love rose flavored Turkish delight but have been to scared to try random recipes from the internet, though I do have the rosewater for another desert already

  • @jcarey568
    @jcarey568 20 дней назад

    Max, it's OK that your Ottoman chef career never took off. We're thrilled that you are so much better at your day job! Keep the great videos coming!