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Why the Chiefs got so little in return for L’Jarius Sneed
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This just mean sneed knows he's not getting anymore rings
@@X-men.977 les he come to Cincy
This hurts, literally, the rules being changed NOW instead of the end of the 2023-2022 season after Mahomes hurt his ankle is down right STUPID. And we got ABSOLUTELY fleased by that trade, so now I hope he go gets his 💍💍💍
Rules change to ban "...swivel technique to tackle..." and the rules were change to ban ..."spearing...". Players must adapt.
Deacon Jones - "he was was an animal...he tried to put you in the cemetery, not the hospital."
Dick Butkus - "I wouldn’t ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately. Unless it was, you know, important. Like a league game or something.”
LJ was amazing and deserves all the best in the world. Glad he got paid. The Chiefs did what they needed to do.
I'm convinced that Tyreek Hill sees Lajarius Sneed and Trent McDuffie in his nightmares.
Amen, hill is a dumpster fire
@@wbae1340 nah he's in the chiefs ring of honor
😂
@@Charles-3900ONE ring!🤣
Crazy how we just pulled a Tyreek Hill on L'Jarius Sneed tho 😅
Rugby league banned the shoulder charge and hip drop tackle. "The game is soft!" "It's been this way forever" "don't play if you dont want to get hurt" - we heard all the same things. But the game moved on, the quality of play actually improves and players have less injuries. It also becomes easy to police the swivel technique stands out like a sore thumb.
It is actually bad tackling technique in most situations. 1 in 4 times the defender loses their grip and the runner busts the tackle. Being unweighted reduces ground friction stopping power to zero and places everything on the defenders grip. Very risky.
Form tackling is actually more effective.
@@Esb906 Absolutely, Swing away from the player you are tackling so your body hits the ground first. Legal tackle. Swing your body towards the player and you land on their legs. 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.
Players will learn not to do it.
Knowing LJs background, I couldn't be happier for him. Great to see him get a bag of guaranteed money.
He will be greatly missed!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I remember Warren Sapp commenting on Mahomes tackle being intentional to take him out of the game,
OK, well Warren Sapp wasn't playing, so he was only speculating.
@randythompson9400 are you stupid or something Mahomes was playing on a bad leg and they deliberately tried to take him wtf are you talking about
@@randythompson9400ok, well Warren sap only played in the nfl for a bunch of years and he was able to see replays to come to that conclusion. Smart guy.
Isn't that the defenses' goal? to get their best player out of the game?
I think that's what the faders have in mind for this year. To hurt Mahomes and get him out of the games
I’m ok with this if they only penalize the most egregious hip drop tackles, but we know they aren’t going to do that.
If it’s really about player safety, they wouldn’t be trying to add an 18th game.
Making rules for “player safety” is what caused the hip drop tackle in the first place.
Or still play on turf.
Exactly. This is ALL about money because if they really cared about player safety they would have never added a 17th game and wouldn't be making plans for an eventual 18th game. The NFL wants to make sure that their star offensive players (Quarterbacks and Receivers) get injured as little as possible while not really caring about the rest. They might as well put skirts on them and get out the flags.
Exactly. They never cared about "player safety" for a second. It's all about money and ratings so offense is always going to be heavily favored.
@@JackKnoxx your teams offense must suck 🤣🤣🤣
The last thing the NFL needs are more judgement calls by officials.
Man… hate to see players like Sneed leave the team, especially for a 3rd round pick. But this is how championship windows stay open.
Great move for the Titans! They got a great one
Indeed
Not even a 3rd this year 😒
If they truly were worried about player safety they wouldn’t play games on Thursday nights or add an extra game to the schedule.
There's an extra Regular Season game but one less preseason game so it evens out.
I approve of the swivel hip tackle rule. I think teams/players were exploiting that tackle to purposely hurt players.
Not trying to be a wise guy, but have you ever actually played football? There are many instances that this is the only way you can bring a ball carrier down. Worse, having to think about how you're not going to tackle while you're trying to make a tackle is going to be nightmare. The problem is not the tackle. The problem is certain ball carriers carrying the ball in situations where they probably shouldn't.
@@dalepress1581You wrap their legs.. as opposed to dropping all your weight on the back of their legs.
I see both sides. I’ve also noticed teams doing this to purposefully injure players.
We had to trade Sneed for help in the cap but we will miss him.
In rugby they stamped out the hip drop tackle they had coaches telling the guys how to do this. It's a good thing it's gone now.
How are defenders supposed to tackle then? You can’t hit below the hip, or up high, or the hip now??
The hip drop rule will be a disaster
The offense will now be trained to make this be the hip flop tackle
I made a comment about this type of play on your channel when, ex raider, did it to Mahomes in the playoffs for the Jaguars. I don't like the rule change, however, when they do it intentionally to a player like Mahomes because they choose to hurt someone in an attempt to win a game it needs to be a foul.
I agree with the pm15 part
This. I just made a comment saying that I’d be fine 14:36 with the penalty, provided it’s only done on the most egregious hip drop tackles. But we both know that they’re not going to call it that way.
That's part of the problem though, you can't just give the ref the ability to call more subjective fouls. You cant just assume that somebody wanted to hurt a player just by seeing how they tackle for a split second
@@auroa9854 if my memory serves me correctly. The Jaguars player that did it to Mahomes did the exact same thing to him the year before as a Raider only Mahomes didn't get hurt. The truth is the league knows 2hat these players are doing and are attempting to protect their investments, the players who are the face of the league. We don't need Greg Lewis Bounty type of defensive players in any sport at any level. Greg just happens to be a product of Excelsior Springs Mo. As far as I'm concerned if the NFL identifies a player as being dirty he needs to be banned for life. That's how you stop this garbage and preserve the integrity of competition.
I'm sorry I meant Greg Williams
I agree. I hate to see him go but her deserves to get paid. The Chiefs couldn’t afford to do that. Like you said the drafted him 138 and got to 2 Super Bowl wins with him and get a top 100 pick for him and only spent $4M on him. Good deal.
We could have, but it would have meant cutting Thuney and Reid.
@@iceberg54321I think 2024 is it for thuney because they gotta extend younger guys Creed and Smith.
@@scruffd0g193 and Bolton
Look at it for what it is. Sneed was a free agent with the Chiefs getting more in return than they otherwise would have. They aren't paying $20M for a CB right now, not with the roster and coaches they have.
Sneed is great, but the only way to maintain a dynasty is to understand that you can't pay massive amounts for all your stars, you must let some go (Tyreek, Honer Badger, Sneed). But you make it up by taking advantage of veteran free agents willing to sign bargain short-term "prove it" contracts to either chase titles or lucrative contracts with other teams (JuJu, Hollywood).
IF you don't want the D's job to be harder, learn to enjoy low scoring games and stop saying they suck because you didn't get to see more TDs.
I think that some of those tackles are a bit uncalled for, if you look back at the tackle that caused Mahome's injury, it was obvious that he was landing on his feet on purpose...
He even look down to make sure he was landing on his ankle... I watched it like 8 times, it looked "INTENDED". Assaults in rough sports happen, let's get rid of the injury causing assaults.
(Like $100,000 fine like conditions...)
If I remember right Sneed lost 2 family members in that town of Minden LA. Lived near there 30 years ago and almost lost my life twice directly from that town so much props to surviving that and getting your payday and rings
At this point after the sneed trade you could honestly put the trade compensation as (Any player signed from the cap space they gained back) + 2025 3rd and 2024 7th swap. This is what im doing to make my self feel better at least lol.
Well, yours is also a 100% accurate reality-based take.
Me, and every other person that played defense during their careers, give a collective skoff at this rule change. Smh. How do you tackle ball carriers from the side now? Somebody explain
by not landing on their legs
@@auroa9854 lol and again, I ask, how do I control NOT doing that.?
You dont, defensive players are going to second guess tackling and they are either going to get hurt or they will just avoid a tackle if it is at an angle.
Derrick Henry may run for 3,000 yards this year
Rugby players tackle runners from all angles without swivel technique and are actually more effective than football players.
Do you want effective tackling, or aggressive highlight-worthy tackling?
great deal all around we needed the cap space, traded one guy for maybe 4-5 other players we really needed
I know that L.Sneed for a 3rd round sounds like crap, but the Chiefs got more than a 3rd rounder. With the cap space they saved, they will be able to add multiple players. So what the Chiefs actually got was a 3rd rounder and multiple players.
Defensive players are NOT gonna be happy! 🤬
Flags, Nerf footballs and bubble wrap uniforms incoming ...
The days of the turf wars are long gone. I miss the Lyle Alzados of yesteryear.
@biblebeliever1611 Dude literally uses a guy who abused steroids, had multiple concussions and died of brain cancer at 41 years old.🤦♂️
Just quit watching. Move on. I promise we won't be sad.
@@bryansmith8646 😅👍
@@bryansmith8646 I'm glad you won't be sad. I'm pretty fed up with the NFL and sports as a whole. And yes, you folks are right, I should move on.
Chiefs did the right thing.
Indeed
No matter what happens people will be mad… if this is supposed to lessen injuries, and it doesn’t, the rule will be changed.
I'm not upset about the 3rd round pick, I'm upset its for next year. We were never going to get more than a 3rd. He's 27 yeah, but coming off a knee injury. No pro-bowls or all-pros. Lots of flags. 20 million contract needed. I think it was ultimately more a thank you to Sneed for his services rendered and allowed him to go lock down his money now. We needed the money a lot more than we needed Sneed. We will be fine at CB without him. He would have helped, but we will do ok. We still have Watson and Williams and McDuffie.
Cole, I needed clarification on what the Hip Drop Tackle really is so thanks for covering this. The clip you showed of others complaining about the rule seems to be misinformed on their part. I'm sure you will see more support for this rule by the players when they see how it's implemented. I love Tackle football, but just like the horse collar tackle or hitting a defenseless receiver banning the hip drop tackle (first time I heard it called this I thought they said "Hip Hop" Tackle) as you described it here it's justified. I never liked the idea that you only beat another team because a tackle took a star player on the other side off the field. I want to see my favorite players healthy and on the field, this helps make that possible.
Hip drop tackles aren't something almost anyone means to do, it's simply the way that physics make things play out.
That's bullshit 😂😂
@@Charles-3900 I see you've never played football - also, I said "almost" anyone. Clearly, some people do it intentionally, but how are you going to know the difference, especially when you've never even had to tackle someone who was running away from you?
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman more 🦬💩..smh 🤦♂️ 🤣🤣
I totally agree with the hip-tackle ban. I’ve been screaming about it for years because its use is injury-inducing. Yes, #1 it’s to tackle, but the 2nd design is to injure.
LOL..and now you'll be screaming for years about how poor tackling is.
The Chiefs organization wanted Sneed to get paid long term as well. I think this was a mutual agreement. Sneed honored his original contract and balled out. Earned the big payday but the timing to get paid in KC was unfortunately bad. Best wishes to 38.
I heard Sneed was very particular about WHERE he wanted to be traded (as well as contract as you said), and on the non-exclusive tag the Chiefs basically had no say about which team he could go to. So there could have been others offering more, but seems like his agent came back with Titans or nothing, and with the Chiefs cap bind they had no choice but to take it. Agree with you 100%, sad to see him go but glad he’s getting paid!
Man, the tackle thing....that's tough. When you're out there you're just trying to get a guy down.
In Spags we TRUST…
We miss Sneed! Didn’t T Swift bring in enough money and tons more fans for NFL
It raised the cap but we still didn’t have enough money for Sneed
this is a problem of their own creation.
1: Dont hit them high
2: Don't hit them in the knees or lower
3: Don't grab the back of their jersey
4: Don't spin and sling them down (Tua)
5: Don't drag them down by the waist.
What does the NFL want defenses to do? Run beside the guy and yell "PLEASE STOP!"
How on earth wil the refs, in a split second, be able to determine whether it's a lawful or unlawful tackle, when they already can't even spot holdings? And, by the way, how are DBs supposed to bring a guy down, now ??
The National Rugby League (NRL) banned the hip drop tackle in Australia a few years ago after a spate of nasty injuries. Players are taking time to adjust technique but it’s an ugly tackle and nobody wants to see anyone have a serious injury.
For the Chiefs, they lost the trade. Unfortunately, that was the best thing they could get out of a Sneed trade anyway. We did right by getting Sneed to a team that would pay him and ensure he's good for the remaining years of his football career. That's good enough for me.
To in AFC team though 😮
We got very little for Sneed because of HIS contract/salary demands, so he had the leverage and because Colts signed him to an extension AND the Chiefs are confident they can draft and develop that position very well (+ McDuffie is up for a similar bag I think next year). Thanks to Nick Wright (and you) for really getting the micro details. There is no way we could've kept Sneed and effectively addressed ANY of our depth needs or incoming draftees. Just couldn't happen even in the increased cap year.
Titans not Colts
Nfl bans tackling
Thanks again, Cole, for the content! 😊 I agree that the swivel drop hip tackle should be a flag. However, it will be subjective to call for the referees. 😮
Sneed deserved to get paid, good for him. Wish him nothing but success. Deserves generational money, he earned it.
I'm all for player safety but I don't see this new rule being consistently enforced as it is soooooooooooo subjective.
Great Video!
Thanks so much 🙏🏻
Good point about Sneed
the NFL just refuses to let the defense do defense
the fact that a had a comment explaining to someone about the one of the tackles that probably caused the rule sounds crazy defense is probably frickin screwed
LOL..My son was a 5'7 220 lb running back in high school. All thighs and chest. Hip sink was the only way he could be tackled without injuring yourself. So by these rules, he stays healthy and defenders get trucked. Makes sense.
Well, at least the tackle rule has the additional requirement of also coming down on their feet/knees. They can still drop tackle if they avoid where they fall.
It's true most of the rule changes hamper defense, but when the work around players find is even worse technique that is as, if not more, dangerous than what was banned then of course they keep taking stuff out of the game. Remember that for years leading with your head was not only "good tackling", but the preferred way. Go to old highlights and listen to guys being praised for "putting their head on the ball".
Hip drop tackles are not bad per see, but if you are swinging your weight below the guy you're tackling it means that 19 out 20 times your have a good enough grab on them that you could have done something else to take them down. Because people get fixed on the poor 170lb CB trying to take down a 240lb TE down field, but a lot of hip drop tackles, as the one against Mahomes, are a 220lb linebacker or 250lb defensive edge doing it in in a situation with much more "safe" options but do it because it's "easy". Remember, horse collar tackling was also the "easy" way to take a guy down from behind, just reach out and jank at them from behind. Doesn't mean it was a good solution.
you bring up a good point about the money. the league will rarely sacrifice their bottom line for the sake of player satisfaction. They rather risk becoming “soft” if it means more money! its a business!
Another way to view Sneed is that the Chiefs org developed him into a star. They can do it again.
Noticed the Nick Bolton jersey in background, I'll give you a big hell yeah for that 🇺🇲🏈💪
Crazy! It happens all the time, but I guess the coaches can use those reviews to see how tackles happen! Just going to delay the game even more between those rule changes.
The Sneed trade is sad. I will miss him and his awesome playing but understand that team and Sneed did what was right for each. The changes on challenges, foul enforcement and replay overruling on field judges are fine. Kick off change not sure but may make the game more exciting and if done for all teams could be fun to watch. LOL. The change on tackling is so subjective, it may cause many headaches literally and figuretatively.
The chiefs need to cut Charles Omenihu and sign Stephon Gilmore.
It doesn't help much on the hip drop tackle if it does happen and already hurts the player.
I agree with this rule every time I see a player get tackled that way they always get injured and at least the Chiefs understand and respected him to appreciate his talent and wanted him to get paid what he's deserved that's a good organization and yes he will be missed good luck Sneed you can do great things for your family and I'm sure your brother is looking down from the heavens above giving you the thumbs up God bless 😊😊😊😊
I’m an FSU fan and we saw what a hip drop tackle did to Jordan Travis. I see both sides of this .
There will be angles that no other kind of tackle can be made. The game is becoming impossible to be a defender and win plays. Defensive backs have the most difficult job on the field, everything they do is now subject to a penalty.
i love ur vids bro
still won the super bowl that szn w that injury too pat the 🐐
Yes
Sneed trade was good deal over all, draft capital was lacking but at the same point it opened 19.5Mil in cap space which is HUGE potentially able to get an OT now
Didn't want him to go!
About the swivel hip-drop tackle rule change:
I just wish that they had included the word "intentional" (... *intentional* swivel and dropping...). As the montage of clips showed, there are many times when a swivel is inadvertently caused by the direction of attack. All teams are trying to obstruct the tackle and all ballcarriers are trying to avoid it, thereby altering the ballcarrier's direction which then causes the inertia and momentum of the tackler to swivel along the axis of the ballcarrier. #physics
A player should not be penalized because of the nature of the game. I get that this was banned in #Rugby, but there is a HUGE difference in tackling because of the rule that, "A player must not intentionally prevent an opponent from tackling or attempting to tackle the ball-carrier." In the NFL, that is absolutely part of an offence's strategy which then creates obstructed attack/tackle lanes from defender to ballcarrier. If those lanes were unobstructed, then sure hip-drop is always intentional. Because they are, the hip-drop is usually inadvertent.
Other teams knew that the Chiefs needed the cap space. That gave those teams leverage in negotiations.
Congrats, Sneed! I'm glad that he went to the Titans. We won't see him much! That is a win for the Chiefs.
Sneed one of my favorites. Happy Sneed gets the money he deserves. Sneed made Superbowl possible.
When you said the name of this rule, it sounded like, the defender stopping.. using their hips and pick up and throwing the player down..
but I get they don’t want heavier guys landing on smaller guys feet
There is no legal way to tackle a player, all offensive stats now need an asterisk.
Huh? Hip drop tackles occurred at about a .05% rate last season... quit crying kid.
@@lakeozarkrei3767 you don’t know ball, which means you’re the kid.
I mean i like the change for getting rid of the hip drop tackle bc its only a flag if you land on the legs so just dont land on them. Everytime i saw this tackle being down i was afraid of an injury and pat mcafee claim of flopping shouldn't really be that big if all you need to do is review it and see if the player landed or not on the legs. I will say though if players do get caught flopping then that should be a penalty in itself to reduced players want to flop.
CHIEFS don't O'DELL BECKHAM, he didn't get 1,000 yards with the Ravens, he stays on the injures list alot. The Chief's got holes
Veach did the best he could.
Yup
Securing the bag for your player is class move
they do what they want to do to make it beneficial for the team
Hip drop will be hard to enforce fairly.
I’d rather get nothing and have him for the 3peat
It was necessary to free up the cap space!
The NFL actually be becoming a flag football
Bosa did that same dirty tackle on Mahomes on that OT winning drive. Almost injured Mahomes ankle. It’s a dirty tackle
Defensive players just need to protest and allow a TD on every possession for a week. It would be funny if every game ended in a tie for week one.
SNEED IS THE BEST!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Lady
Respect to #38
Sneed never smiled
That's true, sadly. He had a rough life, alot of adversity.
He's THE NFL KHAWHI LEONARD 😂😂😂 but he always smiled around his mom
He was all business. You don’t get to be one of Andy’s favorites by being a sullen guy though. I think he was just playing no games out in the field.
2:43 Thanks Cole for showing this. HAD NO IDEA Sneed was paid SO LITTLE for his FOUR YEARS of service in Kansas City. Sneed deserves the big contract the Titans gave him. 👏
He's prolly gonna ball out for the Titans as thanks to them. 🏈
I want the NFL to produce a video showing how to tackle Derrick Henry at full speed.
Gonna be a little rough for guys in the secondary to bring down bigger recievers and backs.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK WE LOVE YOU
Off Topic, but can we get a beard routine/products video pleaseee? Or maybe you could start a HBTC line if you havent already. I have a beard and am always looking for new stuff, thanks!
As far as the Sneed trade goes, both things can be true... The team definitely needed to move him to clear up much needed cap space, but they also got taken to the woodshed on the trade!
As far as the rules changes go, basically every rule implemented since like '05 has been "for player safety," but have only served to make the league soft and it's just getting out of control! It's a contact sport, there are going to be injuries. We were all well aware of that from the start of pee-wee football and we all signed on knowing the risks involved! The league wanting teams to "score more" says everything we need to know about it, all of the rules they've changed were to help offenses and penalize defenses (other than taking away chop blocks, but that's literally one rule to like fifteen that help offenses) if it were truly about player safety it would be more even across the board! They heard someone utter the phrase "defense wins championships," and replied "we'll just see about THAT!" 🤦🏻♂️🙄 Not a fan
I think we should have got more draft capital, but in the end like you said it was either him or Jones and I think we made the right pick and tagging him so we got at least something was the way to go. Too bad Titans knew we were over a barrel on this one.
If they had that tackle rule before…..would Bo Jackson have messed up his hip?
Veach is gonna have to pull a STUD with that 2025 3rd.. my opinion. Veach failed on this one
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How did players tackle before the hip drop? Are players concerned that they will give extra yardage because they can't bring certain players down without body dragging them to the ground?
The hip drop tackle can (and I think must) be enforced by the replay booth. It can be called
by the ref but it must be reviewed. While you're at it, do something about the ridiculous and
gratuitous number of holding calls. There probably isn't much you can do about the quality
of a holding call if it isn't obvious but the total number could be reduced. Overall, I think
the replay booth should be much more involved in everything except administrative
fouls; off sides, encroachment, clock, conduct, formation, motion etc... I mean, even the sidelines,
goal lines, and pylons get a booth review. Or, get the refs some Dick Tracy TV glasses so they
can correct their own calls? - Sneed had great content of character so you hate to lose a good
man but he had to be paid. Bless that man.
If we end up getting one more quality player (and get a couple of guys re-signed) this off season then I think we'll have improved the squad significantly overall. Re tackling, like a lot of things in life, you can't make rules to cover everything so maybe we need a balance using some common sense and judgement calls (with good refs!).
The hip drop tackle is dangerous. The NRL had this issues recently and they brought in a penalty for hip drop tackles. Player safety should be key with these sort of rules ar looked at. While there is ways for offensive players to be able to milk it it is not going to cause too much damage to the product just less damage to players leg/ankles.