What’s your feeling on tinted lacquer vs rubbed stain finishes? Personally I’m not a fan of rubbed colour. Always looks patchy and one dimensional to me compared to the depth you can achieve with tinted lacquer coats. I’m a lacquer guy, so am genuinely interested in how you compare the results from both processes. Love the faux binding idea. Particularly on Strat bodies where the cutaways can be tricky with traditional binding. I actually modified my StewMac binding channel jig with a deeper donut so I could do binding channels on Strat bodies. 😬
That looks great man, love the color combo! I'm glad that you did this video because I was very curious as to the best way to do faux binding. I had just assumed that you tape off the binding area and just pray for no seepage. The sealer definitely adds a layer of insurance....I would assume that you could even take it one step further and mask off the binding before applying the stain. I will be trying this for sure. Thanks again for sharing the knowledge!
Way need Celica Derek! That is really cool! Of course it's on my favorite color! Love t h e "...I'm filming!" Derek, your vids are great, thank you for sharing my man! Pam 😊
Derek, Thank you for making this video. I'm building a Firebird style guitar and I did a purple with black underneath and it came out beautifully. Minor error spots but it looks great. I would like to do a silver binding but I'm afraid I might be going too far down the rabbit hole.
Ah ah doing faux binding is a pain sometimes! But you know what, I'm stuck with it as I make real wood binding on my guitars but don't want the stain to go in! So I have to mask them. Glad you showed us the gluboost tape, was using the frogtape but the less larger I found was 12mm.Ah ah!
Looks good. Finding tape that will stay smooth and stuck down on those tight corners is a key. I’ve done the opposite when spraying a solid color. Mask off the binding, spray a light coat of clear to seal the edges of the tape then spray the solid color. Spraying the clear after tape and before the color was a big revelation.
Love that color. Just traded my quilted purple schecter 😢. An absolutely stunning guitar. But I got a Les Paul custom out of the deal. So I can’t cry too hard.😬
kimball hardwoods are amazing. i have had bad luck with other suppliers but kimball hardwoods has such an impressive stock of figures maple that even being in australia i am more than willing to pay the high postage cost to get my hands on the stuff
Great video. I'm about to try this for the first time on a tele body. Any tips for doing this with a burst top? I'm planning to apply a darker color first that I'll sand back to make the grain pop when the lighter colors are applied. I'm worried I'll sand through the sealer on the binding when I do that though.
Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video and for all these tips ! I would like to make a faux binding on a guitar with tru-oil or tung oil finish. Do you think it would work to apply the oil finnish on the faux binding before the staining step, or should I keep the clear top coat for the binding and the oil finnish for the rest of the body ?
I had to check my PRS after you mentioned that even they "mess" up the natural binding. Sure enough, when looking in the exact same place on the higher horn it's not as clean as the rest of the binding.
That's a Gorgeous body from Kimball hardwoods. I wonder if they offer one in the 25.1" scale of the 1989 fender heavy Metal "STRAT" ? I don't care for pickguards .. and my heavy metal Strat doesn't have a pickplate. But I love the Quilted Maple grain .. Gorgeous !
I'm doing a green burst and will finish it in Tru Oil. I was wondering if I could use Tru Oil to paint the binding first instead of sanding sealer to avoid any overcoat incompatibilities?
hey bigD! Wondering if you ever waited to do the roundover on the top? If you stained the top first, then did the roundover, wouldnt that work for creating a faux exposing fresh wood? Just curious if youve tried it. I like doing the faux stuff better than traditional binding and watching your vid got the gears turning. I figured it would also cut way down on the possibility of running over the edge accidentally.
Very good info bud! I have a question about natural binding. Would it work if you use a round over router bit around the edges after you stain the body? Will it give it the same look doing it that way?
PRS does this kind of binding on all their custom series. There must be an easy way to do this... I've seen them do advanced stain burst in 5 minutes. I'm sure there's a lot of prep. But still... There must be an easy way!
What size bit did you use to cut the selector switch?? Thank you for all of the information how to build and finish guitars. I just got a delivery of the Angulus dyes this week and will try some test pieces today! Aweswome!!!
I did this exact thing without the clear coat for the natural binding, but I had just a touch of dye bleed (not a lot). Any chance I could still scrape with with a razor to remove it without damaging the wood (Mahogany)? Other option is to just tape it and run an acrylic paint marker around it to make it a bright white binding but was really going for the wood look.
"Probly coulda taped it but sometimes that doesn't go so well, either." Ahem. Accidents don't happen, they are caused. If you carefully backtape the stain-to lines on the sealed faux binding every time, it pays off in the long run over a number of guitars and produces a more consistently professional- looking result. Being in a hurry on such an important feature of the guitar is an unnecessary gamble. All's well that ends well though. Spend your time how you want but don't be upset or disappointed when failing to take an effective precaution at the right moment costs you more time than it was worth later in the finishing process.
When you scrape the binding after the stain doesn't it sort of take off the finish that you just put on? Have you ever gone the other way and scraped the binding after the stain? Anyway, beautiful top! Thanks.
I know this isn't what you want to hear, but don't. Isn't the natural grain nice and unique?. Obviously if you want it, you want it. Just suggesting. He was a fan of the Angeli's black leather dye. Not all black is black. Think Stew Mack sell a good black dye also. Good luck.
What I meant was can you scrape paint off as well as scraping stain off. I spent some time researching and discovered that you can scrape stain and paint. So anyway thanks for your vids. Very informative!
BigDGuitars - Dyes don’t have pigment. It’s a chemical colorant molecular in size. Chances are the blue in the purple might give it a green tinge with the color of the wood.
Go Chiefs!!! You in Missouri or Kansas? But what you said about PRS guitars using this method I don’t believe is correct and I’m unsure really how. Even in PRS Korean and Indonesian models they channel and glue in actual binding strips, of course most likely faux wood binding but nonetheless it’s actually binding. I have provided a video of the Indonesian factory and at 8:05 in the video you will see the routing and glueing of binding taking place. The same methods are used on the US and Korean models as well. So I’m unsure what your referring to as I don’t believe it’s the case. Anyways 8:05 into video ----->>> ruclips.net/video/N4xyS5ZTjAg/видео.html
The part of this video that I emulate the best, "Hey Guys, I'm filming!" I think I laughed more than I should have. Excellent video as always!
This guy is just a goldmine of great info... He deserves way more subs !!!
If it was easy, everyone could do it. Your genuine character and technique sets you apart.Which demonstrates that your passion shines through.
thanks for the nice comments. you even get to hear me yell at my kids.
@@bigdguitars "Who's calling who?" LOL
What’s your feeling on tinted lacquer vs rubbed stain finishes?
Personally I’m not a fan of rubbed colour. Always looks patchy and one dimensional to me compared to the depth you can achieve with tinted lacquer coats. I’m a lacquer guy, so am genuinely interested in how you compare the results from both processes.
Love the faux binding idea. Particularly on Strat bodies where the cutaways can be tricky with traditional binding. I actually modified my StewMac binding channel jig with a deeper donut so I could do binding channels on Strat bodies. 😬
Love The Faux!!! The Purple Is Sweet Also!!! Great Job D!!!
I absolutely love your honesty in these videos. Even yelling out, "I'm filming ".... true life in the making !
there are like 20 edits of me yelling at the kids sometimes. I have three. Thats the walking you hear most vids.
Love that finish, prefer it to binding, thanks for posting.
That looks awesome! I'll have to give it a try!👍😎🎸🎶
That looks great man, love the color combo! I'm glad that you did this video because I was very curious as to the best way to do faux binding. I had just assumed that you tape off the binding area and just pray for no seepage. The sealer definitely adds a layer of insurance....I would assume that you could even take it one step further and mask off the binding before applying the stain. I will be trying this for sure. Thanks again for sharing the knowledge!
It looks STUNNING! MY FAVE COLOR! Its strange it just looks dark blue till the clear goes on!
Way need Celica Derek! That is really cool! Of course it's on my favorite color! Love t h e "...I'm filming!" Derek, your vids are great, thank you for sharing my man! Pam 😊
This video came right on time. I also work on a body with natural binding. Love your videos. Thanks BigD
cool beans enjoy!
I think it looks and came out great. I have a 1990 Les Paul Studio that the top is trashed on, that I want to do this with. Thanks for the help!
Fantastic work!
Derek, Thank you for making this video. I'm building a Firebird style guitar and I did a purple with black underneath and it came out beautifully. Minor error spots but it looks great. I would like to do a silver binding but I'm afraid I might be going too far down the rabbit hole.
This strat is looking killer!
Nice T-Shirt!! great binding!
I thumbs upped the video at 0:06 in on the strength of that t shirt alone bro!! 😎😎🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘💪👍🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
Thank you very much, it was very educative for me!
You are welcome!
Ah ah doing faux binding is a pain sometimes! But you know what, I'm stuck with it as I make real wood binding on my guitars but don't want the stain to go in! So I have to mask them. Glad you showed us the gluboost tape, was using the frogtape but the less larger I found was 12mm.Ah ah!
Just what I needed to know for one of my newest telecaster projects with a maple cap.
just make sure the tape is down.
I was going to ask you about this last week. Great video
I have like 8 vids qued up... more to keep coming.
IMHO, the best type of binding
see I still do real luthier vids. haha haha. I am not all talk. JK love ya buddy.
@@bigdguitars and this one is bad ass, dude!
Very good video - Thanks
Looks good. Finding tape that will stay smooth and stuck down on those tight corners is a key. I’ve done the opposite when spraying a solid color. Mask off the binding, spray a light coat of clear to seal the edges of the tape then spray the solid color. Spraying the clear after tape and before the color was a big revelation.
yea this is good stuff will buy more
LMAOL that was awesome !! :) And great job on the video brad !!
Brad??!???? Hahaha.
Brad, "THE GUITOLOGIST" or BRAD your friend you collaborate will on occasion.
Nice color.
Love that color. Just traded my quilted purple schecter 😢. An absolutely stunning guitar. But I got a Les Paul custom out of the deal. So I can’t cry too hard.😬
That’s looks sweet!
thanks buddy!
nice job d
kimball hardwoods are amazing. i have had bad luck with other suppliers but kimball hardwoods has such an impressive stock of figures maple that even being in australia i am more than willing to pay the high postage cost to get my hands on the stuff
Cool T shirt, my favorite album.
One of the best albums ever.
@@bigdguitars Definitely a masterpiece!
Great video. I'm about to try this for the first time on a tele body. Any tips for doing this with a burst top? I'm planning to apply a darker color first that I'll sand back to make the grain pop when the lighter colors are applied. I'm worried I'll sand through the sealer on the binding when I do that though.
Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video and for all these tips !
I would like to make a faux binding on a guitar with tru-oil or tung oil finish. Do you think it would work to apply the oil finnish on the faux binding before the staining step, or should I keep the clear top coat for the binding and the oil finnish for the rest of the body ?
very cool i love the color,my wife might even like that one.
haha, sup!
I recently bought a see thru purple MH1000NT, beautiful color and my wife loves it also.
I had to check my PRS after you mentioned that even they "mess" up the natural binding. Sure enough, when looking in the exact same place on the higher horn it's not as clean as the rest of the binding.
That's a Gorgeous body from Kimball hardwoods.
I wonder if they offer one in the 25.1" scale of the 1989 fender heavy Metal "STRAT" ?
I don't care for pickguards .. and my heavy metal Strat doesn't have a pickplate.
But I love the Quilted Maple grain .. Gorgeous !
I'm doing a green burst and will finish it in Tru Oil. I was wondering if I could use Tru Oil to paint the binding first instead of sanding sealer to avoid any overcoat incompatibilities?
Great video! Would it be possible to paint the "binding" white first, before applying the sealant?
hey bigD! Wondering if you ever waited to do the roundover on the top? If you stained the top first, then did the roundover, wouldnt that work for creating a faux exposing fresh wood? Just curious if youve tried it. I like doing the faux stuff better than traditional binding and watching your vid got the gears turning. I figured it would also cut way down on the possibility of running over the edge accidentally.
Very good info bud! I have a question about natural binding. Would it work if you use a round over router bit around the edges after you stain the body? Will it give it the same look doing it that way?
PRS does this kind of binding on all their custom series. There must be an easy way to do this... I've seen them do advanced stain burst in 5 minutes. I'm sure there's a lot of prep. But still... There must be an easy way!
they use that fuller plaster. I wanted to show this can be done without toxic chemicals
@@bigdguitars got it!
Excellent vid. Would it work with tru oil as the 'sealer' for the faux binding?
Guys,help me out,,,was one piece of binding wrapped around the side then folded over on to the top or is it done in to 2 strips ?
What size router bit did you use for the edge roundover on this body? I like this look much better than the traditional super rounded strat edges.
What size bit did you use to cut the selector switch??
Thank you for all of the information how to build and finish guitars. I just got a delivery of the Angulus dyes this week and will try some test pieces today!
Aweswome!!!
I did this exact thing without the clear coat for the natural binding, but I had just a touch of dye bleed (not a lot). Any chance I could still scrape with with a razor to remove it without damaging the wood (Mahogany)? Other option is to just tape it and run an acrylic paint marker around it to make it a bright white binding but was really going for the wood look.
Can this be done on a guitar that already has a gloss finish on it? And if so how?
Have you tried doing the dye work then adding the radius after? Just curious if that helps with the bleed.
Would it work if you routed a radius into the edge to get the same result?
I'm going to have to try that Steel wool Thing....to get the desired Color and grain Combo.
its a huge help. makes all the difference
"Probly coulda taped it but sometimes that doesn't go so well, either." Ahem. Accidents don't happen, they are caused. If you carefully backtape the stain-to lines on the sealed faux binding every time, it pays off in the long run over a number of guitars and produces a more consistently professional- looking result. Being in a hurry on such an important feature of the guitar is an unnecessary gamble. All's well that ends well though. Spend your time how you want but don't be upset or disappointed when failing to take an effective precaution at the right moment costs you more time than it was worth later in the finishing process.
Nice job. When do you do your dump on this one?
Oh no you didnt. Oh hell no. Hahaha.
When you scrape the binding after the stain doesn't it sort of take off the finish that you just put on? Have you ever gone the other way and scraped the binding after the stain? Anyway, beautiful top! Thanks.
It does but I spray it all back on. That’s how I clean up any mess
Go Vols!
Fellow Ormsbro.
Love perry.
Niccce job, BigD N' kool T-shirt! Likd 179
top ten albums all time. my tops in no order: electric lady land, most albert king live, t bone , fleetwood mac, this and a couple of others.
HEY GUYS, I'M FILMIIIIN' ! Hahaha, nice looking finish though :)
There are at least 10 of those per video. I thought I got them all!
Any tips on “ebonizing” a rosewood fretboard black?
I know this isn't what you want to hear, but don't. Isn't the natural grain nice and unique?. Obviously if you want it, you want it. Just suggesting. He was a fan of the Angeli's black leather dye. Not all black is black. Think Stew Mack sell a good black dye also. Good luck.
Too many oils in rosewood. You can try the vinegar and steel wool trick. Or just use some leather dye on it.
8:08 LOL!
Does this only work with stain or can you scrap with paint as well?
what do you mean?
What I meant was can you scrape paint off as well as scraping stain off. I spent some time researching and discovered that you can scrape stain and paint. So anyway thanks for your vids. Very informative!
Derek, any reason why the purple dye wants to go green?
too much pigment in the purple. but I don't like diluting the dyes.
@@bigdguitars It looks like the steel wool evened things out, quite well.
yea this dye requires a little bit of work.
BigDGuitars - Dyes don’t have pigment. It’s a chemical colorant molecular in size. Chances are the blue in the purple might give it a green tinge with the color of the wood.
I have also seen green tinges when it’s going on heavy. Reminds me of gasoline floating on water.
Big d are you from chicago ?
Instead of a blooper video you should do a yelling at the kids compilation.
I get mean sometimes.
Those bins behind you are reptile racks aren’t they
Go Chiefs!!! You in Missouri or Kansas?
But what you said about PRS guitars using this method I don’t believe is correct and I’m unsure really how. Even in PRS Korean and Indonesian models they channel and glue in actual binding strips, of course most likely faux wood binding but nonetheless it’s actually binding. I have provided a video of the Indonesian factory and at 8:05 in the video you will see the routing and glueing of binding taking place. The same methods are used on the US and Korean models as well. So I’m unsure what your referring to as I don’t believe it’s the case. Anyways 8:05 into video ----->>> ruclips.net/video/N4xyS5ZTjAg/видео.html
So cool binding D, and the color... terrible!!!!😁
no comprendo
Beautiful!!
Is it just me or does this look blue?
Good job, i got my done with rockguitars.com and they did an amazing job
I must be color blind. That looks blue to me!