Game changing video for sure. I can not tell you how many times I have been the second opinion on a "broken" motor. 9 times out of 10 it is the capacitor. So many companies use this issue to sell brand new motors to customers that don't even need it. Disgusting. Thanks David.
If it is a bearing no need for a new motor an SKF OR OTHER HIGH QUALITY BEARING can be pressed out and a new one installed no need to spend 700.00 on a new motor ..
@@davidcooper4385I work with pump motors everyday. Changing bearings is doable if you can get the motor apart without can bolts breaking. If they do , usually the motor has too much corrosion to bother with bearings. It's a toss up.
David, you are the man! My Centurion pump wasn’t working, had a new one ready to buy in my Amazon cart, and I had just watched your video on how to replace it when this video was “suggested.” It’s as if RUclips’s greatest pool guy (you) rang me up and said “hang on, man, and try the capacitor first.” My pump is running good as new it only cost me $38. Thanks for this and all your vids; they’re incredibly informative and helped a then-novice learn how to care for and maintain his pool.
Careful with these as well. The capacitor can hold a voltage charge and give you a shock if not handled with care. Even with the voltage to motor being off.
Yes, good point. Rare but can happen. I also like to do one lead at a time on both types of Capacitor to make sure they are on exactly as the old one was.
Hey man youve helped me in the past I have a question. Fired up the pool pump first time went on fine shut it off then couldnt get it started so did the research and saw it was the starter capacitor, replaced that then it fired up once and let it run for a little bit then it wont turn on anymore same thing hum for 4 seconds then clicks off. randomly it would turn on and run as it should. the motor is not seized by any means runs great when it does but now it wont turn on at all. faulty capacitor or could it be something else?
It depends on the motor age but it could be the bearings going bad and causing the pump to heat up - tripping the fail safe. You can try another capacitor just to be sure.
I have a Centrion 1.5 HP hooked up to a hayward that won't start without me spinning the shaft. I changed the capacitor and nothing. I was looking to see if the centrifuge switch was getting stuck but its opening and closing as it should I think based on how it closes when it slows down and opens after a second of spinning. Any idea whats going on?
David, great video. I have a Century Dual Speed SQS1102R motor only 2 years old. Hooked up to an Intermatic timer. Everything was fine until the dreaded humming noise, followed by silence and the motor getting very hot as the timer repeatedly tried to turn it on. I can temporarily fix the situation daily by manually turning on low speed for a few seconds, then turn that off and quickly turn on high speed. The motor runs fine and sounds fine at that point. After finding this video I checked the run capacitor. It was shot, reading .083. I bought and installed a new one. Problem solved...for one day. Now that run capacitor is toast, reading .029. Both have identical stress marks on top. The start capacitor reads fine...65.7. I assume this is heat related. But on a 2 year old motor I'm stumped how this happened or what my options are. Today I ordered another run capacitor to try again one more time.
Century is usually pretty bullet-proof but as you know products just are not made they way they used to be. There are a lot of sub-standard components out there. I suspect the bearings or coils are making the motor run hot. If there is a pool store or motor shop the rebuilds motors I would take it there to have new bearings put in if it is running hot and another capacitor bites the dust. A long shot but if you are in the Orange County California area a great place to take it would be to Advantage Manufacturing - they rebuild motors all day long there.
@@SPL David, thank you for the prompt advice. I suspect the same thing. I previously lived in the Orange County area but now I'm in South Florida. I'll try the new capacitor then look for a shop in this area. I guess I could check to make sure I'm getting the correct voltage but that seems like a long shot.
Hi! Can’t seem to find the same exact capacitor I have on the pool motor. Model#27L1576;50/60Hz; 440VAC;30uf there are many others but not sure which one is one that replaces it. Maybe you can help me with this please. Thank you!
I need help with mine. I don’t remember which wire goes to which terminal. Does it matter? One of the wires has red mark on it. I just bought a new capacitor but I am unsure on the wire placement. Any suggestions?
Have a 2hp pump and 320 DE filter. Just yesterday I heard the pool breaker trip I turned it back on and the pool was running for a couple house. Then the pool guy came, cleaned out the filter which was super dirty, and it was working until a few hours later when the breaker tripped but this time it also tripped the main breaker. There is power going to the system but the pump won't turn on/make a sound and seems to have some burned wires. Could this have been caused by the capacitor?
I hear you... I’m in Florida with medium size route of 65 pools.. got a lot of good advice,tips from your videos I’ve probably watched every one of them..
Can you tell me what is happening if the pool pump starts the water cycles like it should but within 5 or so seconds it stops cycling the water completely hums really loud as your first capacitor example and stops. We only have the 1 start capacitor and did replace and the same thing happened. This is an 11 year old pool and nothing has changed in it. No wiring or anything to overload and trip the system. Any thoughts? We now have a green pool in a pandemic lol. We did try to clear the impeller in case it was blocked and nothing came out. Please respond :)
Motors heating up and insulation breaks down motors are wound and dipped one time in varnish and baked companys need motor failures to stay in business just like a car...
My pump seems fine but my capacitor keeps failing. Could it be I need to clean the filters sooner? Psi is 17 when clean, I did a backwash at 25 psi and allowed it to get back to 25 psi without cleaning the filters as of yet. This is my 4th capacitor in 2 years. Hoping I don’t need a new pump.
So another question. If my capacitor 25+10 uf and it's hard to find the same size. How much higher can I go? Is it safe to use a 35+5 they're all 370VAC
@@SPL thanks for the video, in this case: 2-speed pump running without noise in low but with the humming/clicking in high, is it the running capacitor or the starting one usually? thanks!
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Game changing video for sure. I can not tell you how many times I have been the second opinion on a "broken" motor. 9 times out of 10 it is the capacitor. So many companies use this issue to sell brand new motors to customers that don't even need it. Disgusting. Thanks David.
i feel you on this
If it is a bearing no need for a new motor an SKF OR OTHER HIGH QUALITY BEARING can be pressed out and a new one installed no need to spend 700.00 on a new motor ..
@@davidcooper4385I work with pump motors everyday. Changing bearings is doable if you can get the motor apart without can bolts breaking. If they do , usually the motor has too much corrosion to bother with bearings. It's a toss up.
Yes. Capacitor failure is the number 1 pump replacement reason. It's criminal. I am in the business so I see it everyday.
David, you are the man! My Centurion pump wasn’t working, had a new one ready to buy in my Amazon cart, and I had just watched your video on how to replace it when this video was “suggested.” It’s as if RUclips’s greatest pool guy (you) rang me up and said “hang on, man, and try the capacitor first.” My pump is running good as new it only cost me $38. Thanks for this and all your vids; they’re incredibly informative and helped a then-novice learn how to care for and maintain his pool.
Watched 276 videos before this one got more information on this ONE video than in all those I watched combined 🤦
Great video THANK YOU!
You just saved me hundreds of dollars. $12 easy fix from Amazon. Thank you so much!
This channel is amazing
Just had this issue. This is exactly the remedy, a new capacitor. Feels good to fix it yourself,eh?
Careful with these as well. The capacitor can hold a voltage charge and give you a shock if not handled with care. Even with the voltage to motor being off.
Yes, good point. Rare but can happen. I also like to do one lead at a time on both types of Capacitor to make sure they are on exactly as the old one was.
Hell yeah. This guy out here saving folks hundreds of dollerbucks. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆
Both wires are black, how do you know which wire connects to which connector on the capacitor?
It doesn't matter which goes where.
Had a coworker, truck caught fire from a capacitor shorting out
Yikes! 🔥
Awesome video 💖. Huge fan from the UK 💖
You can also check it for capacitance with a multimeter...
Hey man youve helped me in the past I have a question. Fired up the pool pump first time went on fine shut it off then couldnt get it started so did the research and saw it was the starter capacitor, replaced that then it fired up once and let it run for a little bit then it wont turn on anymore same thing hum for 4 seconds then clicks off. randomly it would turn on and run as it should. the motor is not seized by any means runs great when it does but now it wont turn on at all. faulty capacitor or could it be something else?
It depends on the motor age but it could be the bearings going bad and causing the pump to heat up - tripping the fail safe. You can try another capacitor just to be sure.
@@SPL I banged the metal housing cylinder cover with a screw driver 10 times and it clicked on for good can shut it on off no prob. go figure
Mr. Pool do have a video on CLOSING a pool for the winter? Thanks
I have a Centrion 1.5 HP hooked up to a hayward that won't start without me spinning the shaft. I changed the capacitor and nothing. I was looking to see if the centrifuge switch was getting stuck but its opening and closing as it should I think based on how it closes when it slows down and opens after a second of spinning. Any idea whats going on?
Do I need to discharge the capacitor (I've heard that) or just take wire off with no problem. Thanks
It rarely is an issue. I don't usually.
David, great video. I have a Century Dual Speed SQS1102R motor only 2 years old. Hooked up to an Intermatic timer. Everything was fine until the dreaded humming noise, followed by silence and the motor getting very hot as the timer repeatedly tried to turn it on. I can temporarily fix the situation daily by manually turning on low speed for a few seconds, then turn that off and quickly turn on high speed. The motor runs fine and sounds fine at that point. After finding this video I checked the run capacitor. It was shot, reading .083. I bought and installed a new one. Problem solved...for one day. Now that run capacitor is toast, reading .029. Both have identical stress marks on top. The start capacitor reads fine...65.7. I assume this is heat related. But on a 2 year old motor I'm stumped how this happened or what my options are. Today I ordered another run capacitor to try again one more time.
Century is usually pretty bullet-proof but as you know products just are not made they way they used to be. There are a lot of sub-standard components out there. I suspect the bearings or coils are making the motor run hot. If there is a pool store or motor shop the rebuilds motors I would take it there to have new bearings put in if it is running hot and another capacitor bites the dust. A long shot but if you are in the Orange County California area a great place to take it would be to Advantage Manufacturing - they rebuild motors all day long there.
@@SPL David, thank you for the prompt advice. I suspect the same thing. I previously lived in the Orange County area but now I'm in South Florida. I'll try the new capacitor then look for a shop in this area. I guess I could check to make sure I'm getting the correct voltage but that seems like a long shot.
Do you have to discharge the bad capacitor somehow before touching it so you don't get shocked?
You can. Usually not a big issue.
The two wire coming from pump to connect the capacitor is there a specific way they connect
No. Either is good
@@SPL thank you
Hi! Can’t seem to find the same exact capacitor I have on the pool motor. Model#27L1576;50/60Hz; 440VAC;30uf there are many others but not sure which one is one that replaces it. Maybe you can help me with this please. Thank you!
I need help with mine. I don’t remember which wire goes to which terminal. Does it matter? One of the wires has red mark on it. I just bought a new capacitor but I am unsure on the wire placement. Any suggestions?
Doesn't matter if it is the run capicitor on top of the pump.
AC MOTORS USE ELECTROLYTIC CAPACTORS THEY HAVE NO POLARITY ON AC...
What if I changed the capacitor and it worked but now I'm back to the same scenario?
Very helpful. Thank you very much.
Have a 2hp pump and 320 DE filter. Just yesterday I heard the pool breaker trip I turned it back on and the pool was running for a couple house. Then the pool guy came, cleaned out the filter which was super dirty, and it was working until a few hours later when the breaker tripped but this time it also tripped the main breaker. There is power going to the system but the pump won't turn on/make a sound and seems to have some burned wires. Could this have been caused by the capacitor?
It could be that. I would have him change it for you to make sure. Worst case -the motor itself is burned out.
Do you have to turn off the main breaker???
Subpanel is enough. Or main.
Hey David do you work on automation systems, heaters or lights???
All of those are pretty time consuming. So I don't do much work on them.
I hear you... I’m in Florida with medium size route of 65 pools.. got a lot of good advice,tips from your videos I’ve probably watched every one of them..
Thanks for the great feedback! With 65 pools you need to pick and choose which jobs to tackle.
Can you tell me what is happening if the pool pump starts the water cycles like it should but within 5 or so seconds it stops cycling the water completely hums really loud as your first capacitor example and stops. We only have the 1 start capacitor and did replace and the same thing happened. This is an 11 year old pool and nothing has changed in it. No wiring or anything to overload and trip the system. Any thoughts? We now have a green pool in a pandemic lol. We did try to clear the impeller in case it was blocked and nothing came out. Please respond :)
Sounds like the motor is overheating - if the motor is 11 years old time for a new one.
Motors heating up and insulation breaks down motors are wound and dipped one time in varnish and baked companys need motor failures to stay in business just like a car...
My pump seems fine but my capacitor keeps failing. Could it be I need to clean the filters sooner? Psi is 17 when clean, I did a backwash at 25 psi and allowed it to get back to 25 psi without cleaning the filters as of yet. This is my 4th capacitor in 2 years.
Hoping I don’t need a new pump.
It sounds like the pump is getting hot so maybe take it to a motor shop and they can rebuild the bearings.
@@SPL thank you as usual, I’ll i do just that.
Can the capacitor be bad if the pump does clicking and humming when on high speed and it won't come on but it runs at low speed?
For a two speed pump - yes
So another question. If my capacitor 25+10 uf and it's hard to find the same size. How much higher can I go? Is it safe to use a 35+5 they're all 370VAC
@@SPL thanks for the video, in this case: 2-speed pump running without noise in low but with the humming/clicking in high, is it the running capacitor or the starting one usually? thanks!
What would cause the pump to not turn off?
If it is in an automated system, a bad relay. On a timer a bad intermatic timer.
@@SPL thank you
David, a great tip nice dIY video thanks. 👍👍👍
I changed my run capacitor that's on top of the motor and it's still humming loud. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Maybe something is jammed in the impeller?
Thanks I will check it out.🤞🤞🤞
Did you figure it out? My motor just started doing this exact same sound and won’t come one and I swapped the capacitor and it’s not the capacitor.
God bless you!
I changed out the capacitor and it's still doing the same thing?🤔🤔
Possible the motor is shot. Too bad.
Yea mine too :/
Who are the clowns that downvoted this video?