The evolution of the book - Julie Dreyfuss
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2016
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What makes a book a book? Is it just anything that stores and communicates information? Or does it have to do with paper, binding, font, ink, its weight in your hands, the smell of the pages? To answer these questions, Julie Dreyfuss goes back to the start of the book as we know it to show how these elements came together to make something more than the sum of their parts.
Lesson by Julie Dreyfuss, animation by Patrick Smith.
I'm all for e-books for the practicality, but I will always be in love with the physical book. Nothing beats having a fully stocked bookshelf in your home where you can look over all your fictional adventures and run a finger over their spines.
Agreed.
I was about to write a similar response. Well said.
Nor having to pack them all when you move home
I couldnt agree with you more.
I like regular books,they're physical,you can actually pick the copy up to read and flip the pages,and sometimes my eyes and head hurt when I read to much online.And its satisfying to say you have a book,it can be special.I don't want books to die out,ever.
There's nothing like holding the physical copy of a book. I can never get as immersed in the story if I'm just scrolling down a screen.
+aya mohamed i read homy as horny when I first saw it oml
Juvenoia- insistent belief that the past is better than the present and things today are never as good as things in the earlier generation
+PapaKay
Yeah, but for us it's just books.
Like, lots of other things are great from this decade, and a lot of past things sucked, but books are just... better than ebooks. For most people, at least.
+aya mohamed
1. Subjective BS
2. Use a high-DPI display, without excessive brightness
3. What.
4. Downloading takes no time at all. Acquiring a physical book takes many orders of magnitude more time.
5. Subjective BS
6. See 2
Conclusion: you have sentimentality towards dead-tree books and are willing to fabricate reasons to justify their existence.
1- That's because you were born reading physical books, think by the perspective of a 8 year-old.
2- You can change the level of light of the device, while in physical books you have to adapt to the light of the room or sun.
3- That's nonsensical, you can get tired from reading both.
4- It's only text! How much do you think is the size of an e-book? "To Kill a Mockingbird" weighs 1.45 megabytes, it takes no more than five seconds to download that.
5- Refer to point 1.
6- Refer to point 2 and 3.
I really enjoy the articulate narration and the lucid graphics in this presentation.
yeah
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yes same
When you hear the word "book" what do you imagine?You would usually imagine a cover,the spine,the many pages,and even pictures.You don't imagine an ebook or a kindle.Sure it has words and pictures but it doesn't feel like a book.It doesn't smell like a book.You can't hear the pages turning.In my opinion I don't think all these electronic books are actually books.
and you can't go easily and efficiently between the first and the last pages to compare.
I dunno, I find that a book isn't the same as a story. Like an essay is a text, and a short story is a text, and they can touch your emotions too, but a book isn't just text.
I'm not saying that being a book makes a story better, in fact if it has the same words then it's just the same, but a book is a bound series of pages with words on them, and a story is a text.
Even if most books are also texts simultaneously.
Also, sorry for saying too much.
Not in 20 years. Now that tablets and ebooks have been so popularized, all these 4 year olds are reading books with a touchscreen. The book will end up as the floppy disk icon: Some people know what it was used for, but it's the universal icon for "Save".
Language evolves.
That's the same thing that happens with sports and e-sports. There's no physical activity in e-sports, while in normal sports there is (except chess and probably more). If you judge paper books and e-books based on their content they're the same, what varies is how it's read.
So are you saying that if I read Fictions by Jorge Luis Borges on my tablet, it is not considered as having read the book?
+Franz Enz well it depends on what you consider a book.If you think of a book as everything I said plus the story then no you didn't but if you consider a book as something that holds a story then yes.
For me, any book matters, as long as one can read it. But one cannot argue that having it personally, keeping it in your bookshelf, smelling it's pages and showing it to everyone feels so much better..
What we read (the letters) are important, no matter the presentation. But how could you prefer an electronic book instead of an actual book? the smell, the pages, the fact that you don't have to charge it... amazing.
And once you finish it, you get to put it in a bookshelf, like a trophy, something to be proud of.
I believe nothing beats a physical book. The touch, the flipping feel, the sound, the smell!~~~
I've always loved being surrounded by books, because I love the feeling of knowing that each one has it's own charm, the heart and soul of each author. I guess computers are technically the same, but it's a different feeling. When holding the book, you come face-to-face with the words right in your hands. But when owning it on a computer, the words themselves feel "out there" in the interent, and can be filed far away with just a few taps. Though it seems like paper books will eventually go extinct, I don't think they will. I think the majority of readers will always prefer the feeling of a real book over a computer.
This would have been more interesting if it had started at clay tablets, went through scrolls and codex's, and ended with e-books. It was still interesting, just didn't seem like it was the evolution of the book.
It was the evolution of the book understood as a physical object. For some people the only meaning, it seems :/
@@bialynia OP is still correct, to talk about the evolution of books, we need to mention non-books which were the precursors of books. Also, the term "book" was used before the invention of the codex, ie in the Bible it refers to scrolls...
This talk contains at least one error. The Chinese invented paper for use in packaging. They wrapped packages in paper, but for writing they used silk. Only later did paper replace silk as the medium for writing.
Silk is too expensive for everyday writing.
@@saukraya3254 Few people write on an everyday basis, and only exquisite calligraphy was worth recording.
@@aristoclesathenaioi4939
That's what I mean. Silk is like todays velum, not for everyday writting, only for courts/official documents of that day. Writting is done on paper, those day and today.
😂 😂😂
Silk was an luxury item used by the emperor, high status officials, and rich people - often for very official and important use, like an order from the emperor. Commoners do not write, and could not read, often unable to afford learning it or buying the materials. Poor students wrote on wood or stone slabs with water to practice calligraphy. Richer students wrote on fine paper with ink, the paper is called “xuan Zhi” or xuan paper. In daily life, commoners could pay learned people to write letters for them, often using regular, lower level paper, or bamboo sticks bind together. In ancient China, “books” were on stone slabs, then bamboo sticks, and then paper books, similar to physical books of modern day. There is a type of paper called oil paper, which was soaked in oil, and used to package certain foods, common paper however is only for writing. Silk is also very expensive at the time, and more used as a material for clothing, decoration, or trading, and much less for writing.
Thank you so much! .^__^. I shall indeed share this with my "Humanities" students. Also, it's cool how you leave us with a RHETORICAL question rather than tell us what to think.
This actually made me cry...
There's nothing compared to the fresh smell of a new book! ✨
Thank you all and especially directed me to learn the language rules and will do my best for this I am grateful to all of you
Beautiful video. Very nicely created and explained.
One of my favourite TED-Ed videos to-date =)
Nothings has been this easy Ebooks is Game changer , I am so happy that now I can almost get any book in my device and I am from India 😊
My dissertation is all about how and why people consume fiction literature. I'm in the middle of my studies right now!
I love reading and 80% of my reading I do on my kindle.
For the past 4 years I've had three of the kindle models and I loved reading on each.
The physical size of e-readers and all your books on demand in a single device with a built-in light simply makes it the most comfortable way to read for me.
When I read physical books and get engrossed in the story the size and weight don't really matter. It's after all how I've been reading the past 20 years. But e-readers are just more comfortable for longer sessions and for travel.
Ivo Sotirov I rather read in physical format.
I love these cute animations. They are so nice! :D
a book has a template, an order, a development, and a length different from a blog, an article, or a letter/email. That content could and would be produced for the standard tangible book experience. It's the content that dictates it's format and production, not the other way around.
Great video as always.
Please please please include some subtitles or let someone from the community contribute some closed captions. I love your videos but sometimes i have a hard time hearing them 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Hi Bie B. --
We do caption all of our videos, but sometimes they take three days - a week to get posted on RUclips. Check back in the coming week for this video's subtitles!
Thanks, TED-Ed
yeah they do have subtitles in almost all their videos
Is there a reason for the delay? Could the video be posted when the captioning is done? Equal access for all :) Yay for the effort anyway!
I think it's more of a RUclips thing rather than their's.
That doesn't really make sense. If I upload a video I only publish it after I've added the captions; there is no technical limitation here.
I prefer ebooks since they are cheap and more easy to carry. My 1319 pages lords of the ring was R$37 against R$156 of the physical edition, not to tell the weight of it.
I have become completely obsessed with the binding process of books. I particularly love one company called Easton Press for the quality of book they produce. This isnt an ad for that company, but if you ever come across one you will realize right away that they are of higher quality than most books.
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So it seems there are two different 🤔concepts(?) in my mind that come up when I think of books, one is the digital knowledge itself and the other is the physical medium 🥰 I love both.
It's the words that make it a book. That smell, however, can truly add to the adventure that the words become.
I like these type of animated videos 😎😎
Mind blowing video
I've always loved being surrounded buy books, because I love the feeling of knowing that each one has it's own charm, the heart and soul of each author. I guess computers are technically the same, but it's a different feeling. When holding the book, you come face-to-face with the words right in your hands. But when owning it on a computer, the words themselves feel "out there" in the interent, and can be filed far away with just a few taps. Though it seems like paper books will eventually go extinct, I don't think they will. I think the majority of readers will always prefer the feeling of a real book over a computer.
watching while studying for my finals , having a stack of books infront of me :p great video .
a great video, as always. but could you maybe make one about how your animators do their magic? or what software they use? or maybe there is one and I missed it?
i still get impressed and amazed by human inventions even if we can see and use it everywhere
I like both, but my favourite will always be a physical copy
The word "book" referred to scrolls long before it referred to bound codices, and could refer to either in the transitional period between them which is one of the reasons I have no problem referring to ebooks simply as books: it's the ability to hold long-form texts that really defines a book, not its method of doing so.
Julie, or Julia Dreyfuss? I'm onto you, you can't escape Seinfeld.
Lol I was thinking the same thing
Same lol
same. 😂😂
Another interesting topic related to this is whether or not listening to audiobooks counts as reading. Outside of the obvious issue of semantics many people still disagree on this
I never read a book in my whole life, and i don't know why I'm watching this :)
Do u read now
@@kikiochan6737 that's rude
@@rickandelon9374 how?
It's impossible to never read a book in your whole life
@@rickandelon9374 how
Nice video!
Thanks for beeing awesome
i love the printing press or the history of it
To me, there's something magical about a book. Like a screen capture.
In a screen, you can't feel the pages. You can Change font and brightness. The cover is just a cold metal board resting on your hands.
But in a book, the cover is felt, and you feel the presence of the characters in a book. The soft cover give the older homy feeling of a simpler time. You know what it was like when the world wasn't as wack. When you'd read a book in a farm on a hot day.
To me, a screen will never be worth a book.
+xLelouch&C.C.x CSGO
I'm a twelve year old kid.....
But yah I agree ebooks make things easier. I just don't enjoy them as much
+Cookie_Choco _Chip do you read fanfiction? I personally do, and much of the fanfiction I read isn't published in book form, so I have to read them through a digital device. And yet the characters and plot still draw me despite the medium - while I love traditional books, I don't think digital books should be dismissed quite so easily either. Digital textbooks have made my life much much easier.
A text is information stored in words.
A book is a bound collection of printed-out text.
An ebook is a text that is digitized.
The real art is the text; however, people prefer different methods of reading it.
None of them is necessarily better.
I do agree. Of course the text is the essence, but it's like art in general or movie. You can watch a movie at home... but yet for the most important ones you go to the cinema cause it makes it better. Art. You can even see the Joconde on line, but when you go to the Louvre you really understand it, it makes it better. I think for books it's the same. A big part of stories or articles can be read on line but literature isn't the same without the paper, because it's not just about information. We're not just robots.
I wish she had started with "What is the deal with BOOKS?"
A "book" is a bundle of parchments featuring information and is attached to a spine.
A story is the information often laid in the book.
To answer the question. No, e-books and tablets are not books, just information. Audio books are the same. Not really a book just featuring the contents of what was placed in one
Yes.
Sitcom- Signe- you've finished an information of a story.
Terimakasih Bpk Dosen yang telah memberikan materinya tentang Buku dan bermafaat untuk kami semuanya
Fantastic!
The world's first known movable type system for printing was made of ceramic materials and created in China around A.D 1040 by Bi Sheng (990-1051) during the Northern Song Dynasty (960-1127).
This video had a hard time distinguishing between the idea of a book and the form of a book. Books were certainly written throughout history in many cultures on many different surfaces - mostly in scroll form. These were as much books as those we think of today in bound sheets.
Wow i must have been one of the earliest people to watch this amazing video!!!!
The closing thought is more about books vs texts. In that light, modern media such as tablets are a continuation of representing texts. The medium is different, but the content remains the same. Representing it in a lineair manner, you would be able put the same text on clay tablets, papyrus scrolls, paper books and digital screens. That brings us to another question: the medium is not the message?
The Presentation is KEY to how one will interpret any message. The Duke De La Rochefoucauld knew this well, which is why he delivered his philosophy in the form of Aphorisms. I would argue, especially in modern day society, it is not good enough that an idea be GOOD, it must also be packaged up in a meaningful experience.
Awesome!
i have a test today, its almost 1AM and here i am watching a vid on the evolution of books. wish me luck for my test!!
A book is a great story in my opinion. It does matter what is material is holding the words inside.
this was awesome
who would win?
50 T-Rexs vs the sun
Sun
The sun
+steven mctowelie xD
+steven mctowelie some stars are actually blue but they still burn
50 T-Rexs duh, sun stand no chance against their massive jaws
Book is a text formed to tell something to anyone reading it. Letter in other hand is to tell something to certain people.
I personally love their smell and touch and I love books in general but I won't deny E-books have they same experience only set out in a different format
Shouldn't the book's history extend to the scroll though? Or is that better suited for a video on the history of writing?
0:34 Codex
0:42 Printing Press
1:20 Skeleton of book (paper, type, cover)
3:12 Spines
3:45 E-book
Answer is simple, to each their own.
If TED-ed was a book it would be some sort of colour saturated pop up.
Lol
if only this came out last quarter which i had a research paper on books and e-books
Are TED-Ed lesson videos automatically posted on youtube?
I like digital pdfs for academics as it’s less expensive and more convenient and hard cover for novels and stories for leisure reading
I like this book the popular papers by Amy ignatow 1:40
Until I got a kindle I thought I could only consider a book in his printed form... but Kindle changed my mind about digital reading.
I find physical books really attractive but I try hard to read e-books because of their easy handling. Or course, I love that time in the couch with the book in my hands but it is imposible to carry them everywhere.
the real *turning* point. :D
what about the Epic of Gilgamesh?!
hi
i tooned in as soon as i got the notification on my phone
I think the magical thing about a book is that it is more conected to reality.The pages the smell its origin everything is more down to earth that electronic pages.May be a bit stupid as an argument but this is for me a book.
In the future books will be rare and expansive as they were in the early beggining.
The first video about paper I watched
I am an avid reader, although holding a physical book open for any length of time with my arthritic fingers, becomes distractingly painful for me. I am a no-frills person, I don't judge a book by its cover; therefore a book in my e-reader allows me a truly sublime immersion that I can no longer attain traditionally.
Please do a video on Bizarro fiction.
i never liked e-books i think books might soon be gone but the feel of the paper and the actively turning pages really calms me.
#savedabookz
i group heating books because i didn't have access to any type of book beside boring school books so honestly i don't care if they where made of paper or had a cover the important part is that they should contain useful important and fun information.
I read the digital copies for what I *have to* read and read the physical book for what I *want to* read.
Whoops, I thought it said Julia Louis Dreyfus at first lol I was excited to be taught about books by Elaine Benes
Slow down - I don't think we're on the same page.
NO
get out
In my opinion books are group of pages bound together to tell a story. But a real book adds a certain aesthetic and deeper personal experience because it is something "real" that an ebook just doesn't give BUT it is in technical sense it is a book.
Brick would love this.
I guess a lot of people would think of Elain from seinfeld after reading your name
Yep magic is in the words, but unless it's read by the author much of the meaning can be decided by the reader. Voice inflection and facial expressions can change the feeling of what is written a great deal.
More importantly than smell and feel - is the concept of fixture of a physical medium the only thing that keeps books from being too fluid in existence?
Books in general are words, images, and topic stalked for readers, not paper or skin.
I think the real physical book and the smell of the paper are very crucial at least for me; because I've always wished to live in ancient times.
Julie, can you do the dance with the thumbs please?
Don't forget the kicks lol
Here's to those who wish us well, and those who don't... Can go to hell!
doesn't every definition change over time? it seems kind of melancholic to me to only consider a paper book a book
Physical books are good because they can’t be modified or erased easily like digital files can. I’m addition, physical books can be read and passed from person to person without electricity. Physical books are also easier to use as references as you can simply flip the pages back to a highlighted page.
I like books, although, I don't read them often.
*very smart*
I don't think that reading on electronics isn't reading an actual book. All that should matter is what the book contains but I personally prefer physical copies. Being able to close it and put it on my shelf to show is really nice but I occasionally purchase books on my iPad. It depends on the reader and I think as fellow readers we should just be happy that people are able to obtain and enjoy books, whether it be physical copies or ebook copies :)
A book is essentially an extended piece of writing that carries over to multiple pages. E-books are still 'physical' books given that you are still tactically holding and scrolling through the device they're read on as well as the physics needed to view the book. An e-reader with e-ink will provide a better experience than PDFs on a phone/computer. They're much better on the eyes. Paper books are getting too costly in space and resources; e-readers are not ecologically perfect, but are best for the voracious reader like me. I never needed to touch/sniff paper to enhance my reading experience, the writing should do that itself.
an interesting fact for you in Arabic ever writing is called ketab (book) so think this can give an answer to the question
papyrus is from Egypt huh I didn't know that
Haha!
Who knew the GREAT PAPYRUS was Egyptian?
this might be childish of me to say but i feel like animated educated videos are just so much easier to grasp and understand
nice
Good post
i would say that the e-book is still a book (because it still have the same concept of pages), just not a codex book