Making nylon plastic
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2017
- In this video, I'll be making nylon 6,6 again, but I will be doing it the "industrial" way.
Instead of turning the adipic acid first into adipoyl chloride, I react it directly with hexamethylene diamine to make a nylon 6,6 salt. Then using heat, I force the salt to polymerize.
References:
• Nylon 6,6 video: • Making nylon
• Adipic acid prep: • Making a Nylon Precurs...
• Link to paper with mechanism: goo.gl/p1bUEu
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i love your super chill narration. you're like the bob ross of... idk, at least a few government watchlists.
Dee Elmore why would he be on government watchlists
@@matthewsamartino5660 Probably another drug joke
@@vividclarities7860 Don't forget explosives and chemical weapons.
@@matthewsamartino5660 because he handles and buys chemicals used in chemical weapons and explosives
Nah. He’s the bob ross of science
He spent all his skill points on alchemy
Soo what’s wrong with that
@@user-mo1fn3gu5u I mean, he also had a lot of skill points.
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INT: 26
CHR:16
STR:9
WIS: 14
DEX:15
CON:7
@@quinnnapier5339 wait he's asian??
@@bellaander it was just a joke I am sorry
That pitiful "eeehh nooo" was great. Awesome video!
haha, I clearly didnt care
NileRed How do you decide who to respond back to? Random?
Don't be cry anxious human
anxious human i'm pretty sure if you're early, say something intelligent, and aren't a neonazi (see above) he tries to answer
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@@jjathan6939 Your hope has been granted. This comment was hearted!
@@ZacGames3 ur 3 years late
@@mysticmonkey9057 Idc lmao. I said the thing that was needed to be said.
Aha! The old no high temperature oil problem. So here's a pretty straightforward solution: put your heating element and RB in a dish and add sand. The sand transfers heat uniformly to the entire flask and there's plenty of thermal inertia to keep the temperature constant.
This is what we use if we go well over 200°C (which, thankfully, isn't all that often). Silicone oil isn't a really good option as the high temperature stuff is crazy expensive.
Now it makes sense why they use this method to make coffee in some countries
@@boyorougesauvage8584 ah, a Turkish coffee enthusiast.
This video in a nutshell: at first it seemed to be working, but then it slowed down
Yes
TheGinginator14 at the end Nile was like "burn maufaka, burn"...😂
So I smashed it with a hammer. :)
@@NileRed love you and your channel so much.....it's a personification of love for chemistry.....the attention to every single step shows your excitement about the whole thing and adda to the meaning of the whole endeavour. Thank you
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What I love about your channel is that you aren't afraid to show your mistakes and failures. We all have to remember that chemistry really means "Chem is try"!
That "Oh no!" was so cute omg
Yes
Cringe
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Procedure: asks for pear shaped flask and oil bath
Nilered: does neither
Procedure: doesn’t work
Nilered: oh come on it was supposed to work
He was distracted because i sent him my dick pic acid. He mentioned it a bunch in the video
😂😂😂
Nylon Red
Make meth
"Ooooh nooh!" xD Thank you for leaving that in! xD
dzScritches When? I kinda missed it.
BeGamerSl 15:42 :)
Axymerion Thanks!☺
dzScritches I know, right!😂😆😂😆😂 That was just perfect!
I need that audio at 15:45 as my ringtone ahaha, that's so adorable
ikr
“Neeehhhh”
I have such respect for your honest presentations. You don't edit out faults or anomalies, and you openly puzzle when things don't happen as expected. Still, you maintain a calm and scholarly presentation that even non-chemists like myself can thoroughly enjoy.
Try melting it in argon instead of nitrogen. It's denser than air so it won't run away on you so easily. Nylon will melt nicely, but you gotta keep the oxygen out so it doesn't keep turning into a black/brown mess!
Nerd!
Upvoted for your incredibly genuine reaction
Spontaneous reaction
Redditor?
@@voldemortsnose7336 damn I knew there'd be someone he posted this when there wasn't a stigma against reddit lmfao
Redditors be like
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That's pretty neat, I'd be interested in seeing the oil bath and pear flask method, but this is still really interesting.
Yeah, I really didnt think it was going to make such a big difference. Ill try it again "properly" sometime in the future
+NileRed Check out Daniel Forsman's comment too. He seems to have a pretty good idea of how to get it to work better
Why do you need silicon oil? Basically you would have been making a double boiler like would be used in any kitchen, but instead of water you'd be using oil. Keep the heat source away from exposed oil and you should have been golden. The oil is just buffer to dissipate the heat, it shouldn't matter what it's made of. You could have used Crisco.
kinetikx if you use some food grade oil, the smoke point and flame point will be way too low to get to the temperature he needs. Which basically means his lab would be filled with smoke and fire before melting the salts
@@NileRed 4 years ago
Some nice plasticy sounds
-NileRed 2017
15:32 *smack, smack, smack* When scientists get mad :D
The Sanity Coordinator
More like 16:02.
I liked how you did your other video on nylon so much I was able to get my chemistry teacher to show it! Keep up the great work!
thanks! :)
No surprise, they use his videos in the ochem beginners lab in uni as well to explain stuff^^
Yea, my Chemistry teacher has made nylon-6,10 using sebacoyl dichloride and hexane-1,6-diamine. I wonder could you try to make aramid using the same method?
NileRed
make a video on how to make ethyl rubbing alcohol drinkable!
NileRed
or how to extract myrestycin from nutmeg
please include more of your incredibly genuine reactions theyre gold
Been here for three years still love the videos
"I'll try making nylon again in the future"
Me: Looks at date of video, looks a current date, hmm...
Same, but a year later lmao
Hmm
I'd love to see this again with the proper procedures if possible! Would be a really interesting example of how important certain procedures are!
I will eventually come back to it!
I did this reaction during one of my labs. We did it in toluene, with toluenesulfonic acid as catalyst. Of course in an oil bath, but one interesting thing is that we added really small glass balls to the flask. Worked really well, but on the other hand you need to remove the toluene with a rotary evaporator/distillation, and then precipitate it in methanol. We didn't work under nitrogen. I can send you the procedure, but I would have to translate it from German first :D
Could you post the process, I can help with translating if needed. I think that would be great for hobbyists.
Chemistry is fascinating! But besides being so hard, when he says "What's really happening is unknown" makes me believe chemistry is not "so exact", which makes it harder to learn/understand
This is surprisingly true of a lot of science. It makes me wonder what humans will discover in the future, and what science will even look like. But to add to the chemistry is not so precise pile: a drug I take should not be taken with alcohol. Normally this is because it increases drowsiness or dizziness and I rarely have issue with those. However the warnings were vague. So I looked it up. And would you guess it? Yup, the exact mechanism of the interaction with the drug and alcohol is unknown.
@Sabir Lucianno see, that's neat, but would be super helpful in like addressing the opioid crisis. But you rarely hear about it
@Sabir Lucianno I wonder if it's a matter of getting the right info to the right people, or money. Probably both
If you need to use oil to heat something, try substituting it with sand. It'll take a bit longer but eventually it should work.
I dont think I ever expected to laugh so hard while watching chemistry videos on RUclips the "eeehhhh nooo" was the highlight of my mediocre week
Thank you NileRed for showing this. Much appreciated.
"I just flat out smashed it with a hammer."
SCIENCE, BITCHES
Anidn Menoscwicz I just burst into laughter. I imagine that the guy was just tired of this s***t and jammed the heat gun into the vase.
"YOU. ARE. GOING. TO. MELT."
The amount of “At first, but then” in this video makes me cry. Kudos to sticking through the pain till you got it!
It's kind of funny how often you say "...and I'm not sure why." or something like it.
It's part of what makes your videos fun to watch, so don't stop doing it.
This is, by far, the best NileRed video!
I love your approach to these things. It makes me feel like you genuinely give these things a go just because you can.
Also, I love your vids!
this started feeling like a comedy towards the end
Looked more like a tragedy to me.
Love how honest you are. Great videos; really enjoy them.
it would be cool to see a series on plastics in general, a lot of interesting chemestry that can be relatable since its so heavily integrated into our day to day lives
15:43
Top 10 sadest anime deaths
"I recovered a small piece, and smashed it again"...
For science!
Quality content as always! Keep up the good work
I am not skilled in laboratory experiments, but I was thinking of a way to make artificial amber. As you know, amber is a type of fossilized sap, they think from a pine tree, but really, it was from several types of trees. It would drop off and when covered by ash or mud where animals could not get to it, it would stay covered for almost a million years, until the last hundred or so, drifted up from mountain ranges or uncovered from water and wind erosion. It is a polymerized from of sap, more than a fossilized form of sap. I was looking up polymerization methods, and it appears that ultra violet light aids and speeds many types of polymerization. I was going to heat the sap and zap it with a long period of ultraviolet light to see if I could make artificial amber. What do you think about this, Sir?
Incredibly genuine reaction.😁
Omg that oh no is my new favorite thing. It was sooo adorable
My chemistry teacher taught us how to make nylon :) I'm not sure which kind it was, probably the kind from the last video, but he taught us that it was very easy using polyvinyl alcohol and acetone. All you have to do is pour PVA into a beaker, stick in a glass stir rod, and pour the acetone down the rod so the acetone lays on top. Stir it around and pull out the rod; where the two liquids meet creates nylon!
man i had a failure doing your lactose extraction prac from milk i dont know why, but i am happy to try your experiments in my 1st year chemistry. your experiments are super fun, although they are quite difficult and somehow dont work always for me. Trying the luminol prac at the moment hopefully that one works.
The Remington Nylon 66 was a 1950s-1980s era sporting rifle that was revolutionary due to its near entire construction of Nylon 6,6. Great video!
The world record wooden block toss record was set with one. They were black with a white diamond fore stock.
@ 13:50 - where NileRed is trying to pull out a string of fibre. I just want to say that my Dad worked at 'ICI Fibres' in the UK, where they manufactured nylon fibre products. The way it was done was that nylon chips, about the size of grains of rice, were melted using a gas called 'Thermex' (a commercial name rather than chemical name, I think) and then the melt was forced at pressure using a screw, through metal extrusion dies to form many fine strands. These strands were then spun together to form thicker threads, and then that thread was wound onto reels/bobbins. The nylon chips (the raw material) were manufactured at another factory (a chemical plant owned by Dow Chemicals, I think, or maybe they were bought out by ICI) and transported in.
hey in our glovebox, we purge the antechamber the same way with nitrogen and then vacuum. we use it so potassium degrades slower so we can seal off an ampoule with other elements to make crystals, mostly inorganic chemistry and solid state chemistry
*Ahn naœ~~*
So adorable..😍
Even though the video was not a complete success thank you for showing us your efforts
Hey! I have that same Estwing hammer! Thanks for another great video!
All this careful chemistry at the start, and at the end - HIT IT WITH THINGS!
That genuine reaction tho lol 🤣💕🆒🔂
When a spatula's more buff than you
_I feel you_
I cried a little when you smashed the flask
Ehhhhrr noo
Was gonna like but the nice number
Made this stuff in high school, using your previous method, then got hit with the synthesis method in organic lab on college. Nylon is sooo much fun for teachers to assign to lab students. Maybe teachers these days can find more polymers to demonstrate for their students. Even using the junk they sell at Walmart to create an epoxy.
Outstanding demonstration. Hopefully enough college lab instructors learn that your generation of students a break here & move in to other exciting polymerizations to demo this process.
Looks like I'm buying some glass haha. Awesome video
Nylon is cool and stuff, but how do you make Teflon (PTFE)? :D
some engineering plastics like POM would be really cool as well
Synthesis of Teflon requires the use of hydrofluoric acid, it is a notoriously dangerous substance, it is not a good idea to do it at a house you are living in so I doubt Nile is gonna do it
No joke about HF, most of the labs at my uni won't handle the stuff
Yeah, you can't even put it into glass containers because they will just corrode away.
In the US you have to have a special HF license to be allowed to buy any. S
It's really hard to work with PTFE because u can not melt and Form it like nylon. You have to press it.
Really interesting video!!
who else made a repeating clip of his "ooohhhh nnnnno"
Great vid!
Neat! I think the heat gun plus the vacuum setup at the beginning might work.
Great job :D
You may want to use a high boiling point solvent to keep the polymer in solution as the chain length grows. For example, diglyme of diphenyl ether. Then once things have cooled down - dissolve the resulting mass into THF and precipitate into methanol or ethanol in a vigorously stirred beaker to obtain your final polymer - which has the added advantage that you can filter the solution before precipitation to remove any char or insoluble chunks and the final product you obtain will also be in a disperse, fine fiber that dries and can be handled easier than a solid mass.
I love your videos! I do have a sorta cool idea, extracting copper from brass.
There's some motor oils that can reach more than 400 °C without any problems. It isn't the right way to do but it can be used to do the hot oil bath
hmm, that didnt even occur to me
If you want another uniform heating method, specifically because an oil bath at 260°C is at a risk of polymerizing/degrading, try a sand bath. Either a variation using sand, alumina sand, copper beads, or iron shot. (Look at name brand LabArmor beads for an idea of what I'm talking about) Fill a large porcelain boiling dish which fits your heating mantle with the sand or metal of your choice, and it keeps the temperature pretty consistent and allows you fit things into it for more uniform, higher temperature heating. Could allow for you to wrap in some foil and still have a window for viewing and depending on what you're doing it could allow for a nice contrast in colors to help with seeing it.
If I remember well, older times, in labs for heat transfer was used solforic acid instead of silicon oil. It's much more dangerous, but , at least, I guess it is something alwais available in your lab.
very good plastic that is!
Nile loves Nylon surprisingly
THis is realllllllly cool, more synthetic chemistry please!
would love you to try this again using more even heating
I love that you just gave no shits towards the end😂
For even heating, shape is critical. Go for a bowl instead of a disk. Have glass ball just sitting on the initial materials so it will have that upside down dome shape when/before it is polymerizing
And the Oscar to the best soundtrack goes to: NileRed and his nice plasticly sounds of the nylon!
All I know is that when they produce plastic parts, they don't melt the material by applying heat, but by applying pressure and generating friction, which in turn produces heat of course. Search injection molding. So that's maybe why the parts come out clean, but yours gets carbonized. Also maybe this process structures the long molecules better together and makes the product elastic, in contrast with your brittle result. But I guess all these are out of the scope of chemistry. Great video!
There’s is a fascinating text book out of this.
Hey Nile, love your videos, would love to see some stuff on abs. ABS is interesting to me because its super common in automotive or pc peripherals and can be disolved and re solidified in acetone. I was wondering if could perform some experiments to see if you can figure out good ways to cast with it. I personally find, depending on how thick it is, it generates a lot of voids as the acetone evaporates.
Nile at first: trying really patiently to melt the mixture
Nile in the end: **”blast it.”**
Nile can literally make water. Shit's bananas.
How about a video on synthesising Glyphosate (RoundUp)? It would be interesting to make then test on some plants or GMOs that are resistant to glyphosate
Ohhh nice beaker you got there! So fashionable!
Unfortunately shipping is an issue to my end of the world, so there's that, but i'll keep your shop in mind if i were ever to buy more than a handful.
time for some Nile and his nylon 6,6 ASMR
this is so cool. i dont know you personally, but im proud.
1:51 best bowl piece ever
I made some peanut brittle once that exhibited very similar characteristics to your sample.
How did yours taste?
15:44
Incredibly genuine.
That starting clip is sick. You're spinning it like a spider.
can you make a video about how to refine pigments out of plants? or how synthetic pigments like prussian blue could be made?
i would love to see something like this.
greetings from bavaria.
Nile Red, a heat transfer fluid would be something to look into. In the flask with the reactants, I mean. Maybe silicone oil or paraffin wax ... or even a eutectic salt mixture ... or lead metal or alloy. Something that will transmit the heat evenly but will not react ... and is easily removed afterwards.
Very cool!!! Congrats, I think you produced Nylon 6/6 with the salt in suspension. Either way, you made Nylon with heat and thats an achievement! I would love to see a revisit!
Do you think you could include the paper in your description? Just in case we want to read them?
Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot. Ill add that now.
Thanks!
Must try this
maybe this is just a chemistry thing but it's wierd how chilled you are with breaking glass stuff
When using a pear shaped flask, how do you keep everything from going pear shaped?
Could you do a series of this like making different types of polymers like kevelar or composite materials like carbon fiber?
It looks so... delicious.
One man's "metal spatula" is another man's dab tool I suppose
11:45 forbidden english muffin w/ margarine lol
11:53 without margarine
I don't know if this would help, but the flash point of most synthetic oils (the stuff you put in cars) is around 230C. Might be cheaper than silicon oil.