@@NatalieTaekwondo Just finished (like ten minutes ago) installing three rolls of this Vigoro composite and covering the area with mulch. Very happy with results. Wish I could send you a photo.
Oh: I used exactly two staples, one on each end. Also, I attached the ends of the three rolls (two joints) with six small brown-head sheet metal screws. No sweat. I actually wanted to use adhesive as you did, but just too lazy to drive over to Home Depot to buy some!
Great demo and your yard looks great. Certainly it can do a great job as edging. I'd like an almost invisible edge look so I plan to go a bit deeper with mine. Of course you can add more rocks and mulch in your case here over time. Thanks for the video. Very good
Brandon Tran Glad it helped, Brandon. What you’re describing by installing the edging deeper is how it ultimately worked out for me. I wanted an “invisible” border that would not detract from the landscaping. After filling in the sod and stonework, it turned out exactly as hoped. Good luck with your project!
This is a great vid. Thanks for posting. I'm about to create "plant circles" with this stuff to keep the rocks out of where I plant flowers. I really wish it was rolled the other way which is already in the circle I need - now I have to completely change the direction of the roll so the green line is not facing outwards.
You won’t have any trouble at all. Just roll it all up in the opposite direction, let it set like that for 10-15 minutes, and I think you’ll be all set.
@@NatalieTaekwondo Thanks! That was a great idea until I just realized they put the green stripe on the "show" side. Not sure if they changed the product but the inside doesn't have the pronounced wood grain. I thought of installing it upside-down but the bottom edge is tapered unlike the top and it doesn't look as nice. Looks like black sharpie for me :)
@@NatalieTaekwondo Upon closer inspection, I can use the other side without the line. It doesn't seem as pronounced but not bad. I coiled it opposite and clamped it and let it sit in the sun. This is a next weekend project :)
@@NatalieTaekwondo Well I tried Liquid Nails FUZE IT and clamped it for 24 hours and it didn’t work. 😢 I got the idea to use aluminum rivets and it seems to be working great! For reference these were 1/8” diameter x 1/2” grab but I may have gotten away with 1/4” grab if not for the adhesive. This was is pretty instantaneous and you can just rivet the part which will be underground so it doesn’t show. No idea how these will hold up long term but seems solid as there is a lot of tension trying to spread the 12” diameter circle apart. If just connecting two strait pieces it would surely hold.
They used to carry them at Home Depot... but those that come with the edging are pretty flimsy anyway. I’d suggest this type. You can paint them to match ahead of time and bend the ends tight around the edging. They are far sturdier. Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing. 9.5 in. Metal Stake Pack (12-Count) www.homedepot.com/p/302766752
What about when installing between an established mulch bed and grass? Do you need to dig up some of the grass side to have loose soil to push against the edging?
Yes. My men always did it with the pointed end of a pickax. For most soil, it’s not necessary to completely clear the trench. Just by breaking through the compacted dirt, you’ll probably have enough yield to press the edging in place.
Yeah, I could see that would be a concern in colder regions. I suppose it would depend on the degree of freeze-related heaving. The flexibility of composite edging would probably self-adjust in the middle US sections and/or sandy soil. But in far northern areas, it would probably be worth trying it first with a small section of installation.
Mr Mister There is another way to do it if you don’t want to see an overlap. Cut a 12” strip of edging from the roll and then cut it right down the middle so you have 2 thin strips. Apply construction adhesive to one side of each thin strip. With the two sections of edging you’re joining butted up together, you’ll add one glued strip under the junction and one strip over. It will be like a “sandwich”, but not visible since this portion will be entirely underground. Drill some short screws through the strips to hold it all together and the glue will do the job for the future.
But it looks like you need to be careful using a hoe or something similar if you accidentally lift the middle of the edging in which you will have to retrench it again! And esp. because the product does not have a foot at the bottom so the dirt can help hold it down!
G Rogers Howard Something to consider in extreme instances like that is to rent a small stump grinder and just roll it along the line where the edging will go. It will create the trench and OBLITERATE any rock/roots with minimal effort. Not much larger than a mower or tiller, really.
@@NatalieTaekwondo Thanks. Rented a BedEdger with attachment that allows up to a 7" trench. Wanted to use 10" edging with 7" down and 3" up to prevent lawn chemical runoff from harming decorative bushes down hill from lawn. Tough going through roots and rocks.
Excellent two videos. Very helpful with practical, common sense ideas. This will help me a lot. Many thanks!
You’re welcome, Stephen. I’m just “paying it forward” given the number of people who have helped me on RUclips. 👍
@@NatalieTaekwondo Just finished (like ten minutes ago) installing three rolls of this Vigoro composite and covering the area with mulch. Very happy with results. Wish I could send you a photo.
Oh: I used exactly two staples, one on each end. Also, I attached the ends of the three rolls (two joints) with six small brown-head sheet metal screws. No sweat. I actually wanted to use adhesive as you did, but just too lazy to drive over to Home Depot to buy some!
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Great demo and your yard looks great. Certainly it can do a great job as edging. I'd like an almost invisible edge look so I plan to go a bit deeper with mine. Of course you can add more rocks and mulch in your case here over time. Thanks for the video. Very good
Brandon Tran
Glad it helped, Brandon. What you’re describing by installing the edging deeper is how it ultimately worked out for me. I wanted an “invisible” border that would not detract from the landscaping. After filling in the sod and stonework, it turned out exactly as hoped. Good luck with your project!
This is a great vid. Thanks for posting. I'm about to create "plant circles" with this stuff to keep the rocks out of where I plant flowers. I really wish it was rolled the other way which is already in the circle I need - now I have to completely change the direction of the roll so the green line is not facing outwards.
You won’t have any trouble at all. Just roll it all up in the opposite direction, let it set like that for 10-15 minutes, and I think you’ll be all set.
@@NatalieTaekwondo Thanks! That was a great idea until I just realized they put the green stripe on the "show" side. Not sure if they changed the product but the inside doesn't have the pronounced wood grain. I thought of installing it upside-down but the bottom edge is tapered unlike the top and it doesn't look as nice.
Looks like black sharpie for me :)
@@projectguyprojectguy9019 They never should have put that stupid green line on it. 🙄
@@NatalieTaekwondo Upon closer inspection, I can use the other side without the line. It doesn't seem as pronounced but not bad. I coiled it opposite and clamped it and let it sit in the sun. This is a next weekend project :)
@@NatalieTaekwondo Well I tried Liquid Nails FUZE IT and clamped it for 24 hours and it didn’t work. 😢 I got the idea to use aluminum rivets and it seems to be working great! For reference these were 1/8” diameter x 1/2” grab but I may have gotten away with 1/4” grab if not for the adhesive.
This was is pretty instantaneous and you can just rivet the part which will be underground so it doesn’t show. No idea how these will hold up long term but seems solid as there is a lot of tension trying to spread the 12” diameter circle apart. If just connecting two strait pieces it would surely hold.
Thanks for the videos. Just bought some and was 2nd guessing myself. I think I will give it a go.
Me too...almost brought it back as I have obstructions in the ground but this video gave me the confidence to go ahead and give it a shot!
I just came here to see how to cut this stuff, but I'm glad I stayed for the full explanation (LoL).
Super good video and overall great help to DIY's and the Pro's. Nice presentation, sir.
Thanks for the explanation. I have been sitting on this project for weeks. It's going to be about 90 degrees. Hopefully it will be moldable!!
Let me know how it goes. I think you’ll find it to be easier than expected.
thanks, all the other videos were useless! This is great.
Becky Blake
Glad it helped out.
I agree!
Thank you! Thank you! Good job explaining 👍
Could you just set a landscape stable on one side of this edging to keep it in place if you didn't want to use a stake that goes over the top?
Sure. In fact, if you set it at the right level and compact the soil, you could skip the stakes entirely.
Can you provide a link to similar stakes you used.. very nice video
They used to carry them at Home Depot... but those that come with the edging are pretty flimsy anyway. I’d suggest this type. You can paint them to match ahead of time and bend the ends tight around the edging. They are far sturdier.
Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.
9.5 in. Metal Stake Pack (12-Count)
www.homedepot.com/p/302766752
What about when installing between an established mulch bed and grass? Do you need to dig up some of the grass side to have loose soil to push against the edging?
Yes. My men always did it with the pointed end of a pickax. For most soil, it’s not necessary to completely clear the trench. Just by breaking through the compacted dirt, you’ll probably have enough yield to press the edging in place.
this seems good for warmer climates, what about freezing and thawing pushing it up though
Yeah, I could see that would be a concern in colder regions. I suppose it would depend on the degree of freeze-related heaving. The flexibility of composite edging would probably self-adjust in the middle US sections and/or sandy soil. But in far northern areas, it would probably be worth trying it first with a small section of installation.
Dave Collins I just went with the black plastic stake in edging that you dig a trench for. I'm in the north and didn't want to chance it.
What happens if the edging is not long enough. How do you attach the two pieces together? I hope it is not the big overlap.
Mr Mister There is another way to do it if you don’t want to see an overlap. Cut a 12” strip of edging from the roll and then cut it right down the middle so you have 2 thin strips. Apply construction adhesive to one side of each thin strip. With the two sections of edging you’re joining butted up together, you’ll add one glued strip under the junction and one strip over. It will be like a “sandwich”, but not visible since this portion will be entirely underground. Drill some short screws through the strips to hold it all together and the glue will do the job for the future.
Thank you!!
But it looks like you need to be careful using a hoe or something similar if you accidentally lift the middle of the edging in which you will have to retrench it again! And esp. because the product does not have a foot at the bottom so the dirt can help hold it down!
How did he dig the trench? Roots and rocks in my yard. useless
G Rogers Howard
Something to consider in extreme instances like that is to rent a small stump grinder and just roll it along the line where the edging will go. It will create the trench and OBLITERATE any rock/roots with minimal effort. Not much larger than a mower or tiller, really.
@@NatalieTaekwondo Thanks. Rented a BedEdger with attachment that allows up to a 7" trench. Wanted to use 10" edging with 7" down and 3" up to prevent lawn chemical runoff from harming decorative bushes down hill from lawn. Tough going through roots and rocks.
Thank you!!