At this point all this feels like is over engineering something that is straightforward as it is. I have used tmuxifier for a lot of time for projects which you are actually working on and it takes less than a minute to create a session file. Also i don't understand how people find w not enough for their usage it is as straightforward as it is and provides all the necessary previews as well. Could just be me but at this point it is just too much obsession.
Well, on one hand, yes, you're right. On the other, I tried everything and this is the one thing that made me start using sessions. I'll give you an example - I find myself reaching over to my config at least once a day (lately to change the espanso config). I also have a few windows for my work project, some other group of windows for one of my open source, and another for notes. Managing all these in either panes or windows would be a nightmare. And it was. So I'd pop random windows + go to the path + open vim, and naturally 50% I'd find a swapfile bc the same thing is already open in one of my other 10 windows. Sessions eliminated this problem altogether, and sessionx is the quickest way for me to manage them.
@@devopstoolbox I can relate to the fact of constantly feeling the need to change your config file even if it is a single edit. I tend to have 3 windows for each project too where 1 runs vim the other has usually servers running and the 3rd for notes but i tend to organize projects per session instead of creating too much windows in a single so maybe that is where it differentiates in our methods.
@@adityams1659 Depends on the workflow I guess. Since creating it, this is how I work, I’m used to a structure of sessions always opened in front of me, pretty much with consistent names that I already know and can turn to when I need (work, configs, sessionx, other open source I’m working on, etc)
I've got an odd request: more often than I like, I have to login to a session from the console. I attach to tmux and I am met with the worlds most disgusting color scheme. You like dark blue on black, right? It's super easy to read. :D Is there a solution to that? I use the rose-pine colorscheme everywhere I can - my personal favorite. In alacritty on a regular desktop setup, it looks wonderful - nerd font deliciousness, and all that. But when I break my rig and have to drop to a console, all of that goes away and the color scheme breaks too. I am ok with missing out on the nerd font icons (although if that's doable in the console that would be great). But I can't stand trying to edit a config file with nvim and seeing blue on black lol. I realize this is unrelated to your session manager. I tried to install it a few weeks ago but I couldn't get it to activate from the keybinding. I have tmux-sessionizer installed and it's become a simple and effective part of my workflow. I use 3-5 sessions typically and save/restore them automatically, etc. I do like the way you integrated zoxide into the session creation - very clean. Maybe it didn't work because I was using tmux-sessionizer at the same time? I'm not sure. Lastly, ssh. I have a few VMs and each of those has a tmux server running. It's kind of a pain for me to load my sesh, then ssh into those servers in each window of my session, and then attach individually to each server's tmux server... Do you have this problem, and have you found any clean ways around it? Btw, I'm using ssh keys that are password protected (MFA ftw) which makes it harder to autoconnect to ssh. Maybe an ssh-agent integration?
Cool setup. For sessions management, I use tmuxinator (if sessions need to have predefined windows and panes etc). If the session is simply starting a new session from a folder, I use my own script, which is similar to yours but with way less features.
how do you integrate it with git worktrees? I have ~/projects and inside, some folders are regular git repos, some are worktrees with nested folders with actual worktrees inside. I want to list only nested ones, not the dir with bare repo.
Hey, are you suggesting showing git worktrees inside sessionx? It's do-able but kind of an anti-pattern IMO. I use a session per project many times and then use other plugins like the worktrees nvim to deal with switching between them. That said, I'm happy to explore the idea, you're welcome to open an issue / PR :)
I'm really struggling to understand things you're showing in your video, but i already love the way your tmux overall looks. I'm pretty newbie on linux, and only able to somewhat use default tmux with panes (i keep forgetting bind for window's, so i'm not bothered with them for now, and i dont even have any work to do in terminal). I hope future me would understand all the things you're showed up in here with ease. If you have any guide videos, i'll be glad to check them out, cuz i love to learn linux for myself
ruclips.net/video/GH3kpsbbERo/видео.htmlsi=938CtwA_1yqY8F7q Check this one out it should clear things for you and feel free to come back and comment here or on the other video with questions!
The "native" session picker is pretty underwhelming. Love your simple approach of a small plugin that lives in your tmux config alongside other tmux plugins. Not sure what the comment about over-engineering is about, unless their definition of "over engineering" is coming up with a solution to a problem that involves writing code (heaven forbid). What I'm seeing is an excellent combination of popular, well maintained tools (fzf, zoxide, charm/glow, bat, tpm) that are neatly tied together with a few bash scripts.
For tmux old timers like me, Zellij is just to different. It's great, but keybinds and everything is difficult to configure like tmux. I also have access to tmux remotely in my work so it's nice to know tmux with default key binds and just use that everywhere.
There’s already a session picker in tmux, prefix s. I use a simple fzf script for this with bat preview, which is marginally nicer than the built in picker. Your one looks marginally nicer than the script. However, I really don’t like visual clutter. The best way to reduce visual clutter is to keep the information in your brain. You really should know that session A is for project A’ etc, this eliminates the need for the preview. Of course, the ultimate session switcher would probably involve just hitting some keys and switching immediately without any fzf picker intermediate step. More reliance on memory leads to less reliance on visuals.
I get what you’re saying but there’s a bit of a conflict there for me - I’m relying on memory only once I figure a structure I like, the way there is with something I can work with to manage the structure for a while. Moreover, mostly people don’t think like you and I and this is partially for them. I know about the native session picket it’s mentioned in the video, but like you, I didn’t like it or the native bindings to cycle through sessions not to mention the lack of lifecycle basic management
@@devopstoolbox I hear what you’re saying. Plug-in looks super cool by the way. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the fzf-tmux pop up to work. I left an issue report. I also liked your idea of having permanent sessions for things like configuration. These type of permanent settings can be very useful. Keep up the good work ;-)
I had fzf version 0.37.0, after upgrading to 0.46.1, it works. I'm going to give your plugin a try, gotta say, even after my talk of visual clutter, it's still better than what I currently have, by a long way. Now, to configure a session for configuring...
At some point I will :) Too much on my plate right now. I’m always available on Telegram or Twitter though (@devopstoolbox). When I’m ready for a community server I’ll create one!
I don’t know what’s more worrying - me literally forgetting the one important link in the description, or you being the first one to notice after 6 hours LOL. Thanks BTW :)
Yeah the chain of events was Josh creating the t smart manager, which I took inspiration from to build this, and then he created sesh! Sesh is amazing, but an overkill for my requirements here. I like having it as a small plugin that runs inside my tmux server and lives there
@@devopstoolbox Lol! I'd be happy to use your Vim configuration, but it's a bit difficult for me since I'm not familiar with the commands. I was wondering if you could recommend adding a plugin to your dotfiles that might be helpful for beginners like myself?
@@dillysluvu ah, I don’t use which key but you can easily add it yourself :) My approach is learning the motions myself rather than relying on something to back me up
I usually really like the things you showcase, but this one just feels really weird. I honestly can't think of a single usecase for using this over tmux-sessionizer. The whole idea is to have a way to get where you want to go as fast as possible, with as little overhead as possible in terms of cognitive load. What is the point of having a pretty window to show your sessions/windows instead of just fuzzy searching the name of a directory and pressing enter? Maybe it's just not my use case, but in general this feels extremely unnecessary. And about having to add a script to create sessions for you, I agree it would be better if this was a native feature, but I still think that a small 10-line script I can modify myself is WAY better than adding 7 different dependencies to my tmux configs.
Ok so, yes not everyone going to like everything that’s ok 😎 The plugin is made by, and for, lots of different use cases. My process was starting by using the preview a lot until O got to a point where I know the names by heart and now it’s just about switching. So in a way, the plugin lets you grow the workflow with it, you start with learning wheels and over time you adjust (which is why you can configure the views and hide the preview by default). But also, other users don’t care about friction as much and do use the preview daily and that’s for them as well. Beyond everything, from time to time O actually do use it with a randomly created session that I can control from my plugin. Hope this explains things. Theres a reason why there are lots of tools, IDEs and hardware…
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Thanks for the shoutout! It’s always cool to see how people make tmux work for them.
quality content no joke , just needed to watch two vids and I was sold
🙏🏽😉
At this point all this feels like is over engineering something that is straightforward as it is.
I have used tmuxifier for a lot of time for projects which you are actually working on and it takes less than a minute to create a session file.
Also i don't understand how people find w not enough for their usage it is as straightforward as it is and provides all the necessary previews as well.
Could just be me but at this point it is just too much obsession.
Well, on one hand, yes, you're right.
On the other, I tried everything and this is the one thing that made me start using sessions.
I'll give you an example - I find myself reaching over to my config at least once a day (lately to change the espanso config). I also have a few windows for my work project, some other group of windows for one of my open source, and another for notes.
Managing all these in either panes or windows would be a nightmare. And it was.
So I'd pop random windows + go to the path + open vim, and naturally 50% I'd find a swapfile bc the same thing is already open in one of my other 10 windows.
Sessions eliminated this problem altogether, and sessionx is the quickest way for me to manage them.
@@devopstoolbox I can relate to the fact of constantly feeling the need to change your config file even if it is a single edit.
I tend to have 3 windows for each project too where 1 runs vim the other has usually servers running and the 3rd for notes but i tend to organize projects per session instead of creating too much windows in a single so maybe that is where it differentiates in our methods.
I agree,
I just use sesh, and tmux ressurect.
I have never bothered to meddle with too many sessions, and honestly it does not make sense.
@@AhmadMughal1 I get it, but still, I’d want a nicer way to view and change sessions
@@adityams1659 Depends on the workflow I guess. Since creating it, this is how I work, I’m used to a structure of sessions always opened in front of me, pretty much with consistent names that I already know and can turn to when I need (work, configs, sessionx, other open source I’m working on, etc)
I'm on Debian based distor, 2 years is cutting edge.
I've got an odd request: more often than I like, I have to login to a session from the console. I attach to tmux and I am met with the worlds most disgusting color scheme. You like dark blue on black, right? It's super easy to read. :D
Is there a solution to that? I use the rose-pine colorscheme everywhere I can - my personal favorite. In alacritty on a regular desktop setup, it looks wonderful - nerd font deliciousness, and all that.
But when I break my rig and have to drop to a console, all of that goes away and the color scheme breaks too. I am ok with missing out on the nerd font icons (although if that's doable in the console that would be great). But I can't stand trying to edit a config file with nvim and seeing blue on black lol.
I realize this is unrelated to your session manager. I tried to install it a few weeks ago but I couldn't get it to activate from the keybinding. I have tmux-sessionizer installed and it's become a simple and effective part of my workflow. I use 3-5 sessions typically and save/restore them automatically, etc. I do like the way you integrated zoxide into the session creation - very clean. Maybe it didn't work because I was using tmux-sessionizer at the same time? I'm not sure.
Lastly, ssh. I have a few VMs and each of those has a tmux server running. It's kind of a pain for me to load my sesh, then ssh into those servers in each window of my session, and then attach individually to each server's tmux server... Do you have this problem, and have you found any clean ways around it? Btw, I'm using ssh keys that are password protected (MFA ftw) which makes it harder to autoconnect to ssh. Maybe an ssh-agent integration?
Please make a video about using wezterm and tmux as default setup ❤
Cool setup. For sessions management, I use tmuxinator (if sessions need to have predefined windows and panes etc). If the session is simply starting a new session from a folder, I use my own script, which is similar to yours but with way less features.
Share?
how do you integrate it with git worktrees? I have ~/projects and inside, some folders are regular git repos, some are worktrees with nested folders with actual worktrees inside. I want to list only nested ones, not the dir with bare repo.
Hey, are you suggesting showing git worktrees inside sessionx?
It's do-able but kind of an anti-pattern IMO. I use a session per project many times and then use other plugins like the worktrees nvim to deal with switching between them.
That said, I'm happy to explore the idea, you're welcome to open an issue / PR :)
I'm really struggling to understand things you're showing in your video, but i already love the way your tmux overall looks. I'm pretty newbie on linux, and only able to somewhat use default tmux with panes (i keep forgetting bind for window's, so i'm not bothered with them for now, and i dont even have any work to do in terminal).
I hope future me would understand all the things you're showed up in here with ease.
If you have any guide videos, i'll be glad to check them out, cuz i love to learn linux for myself
ruclips.net/video/GH3kpsbbERo/видео.htmlsi=938CtwA_1yqY8F7q
Check this one out it should clear things for you and feel free to come back and comment here or on the other video with questions!
The "native" session picker is pretty underwhelming. Love your simple approach of a small plugin that lives in your tmux config alongside other tmux plugins. Not sure what the comment about over-engineering is about, unless their definition of "over engineering" is coming up with a solution to a problem that involves writing code (heaven forbid). What I'm seeing is an excellent combination of popular, well maintained tools (fzf, zoxide, charm/glow, bat, tpm) that are neatly tied together with a few bash scripts.
❤️🙏🏽
Have you tried Zellij, how does it compare to tmux?
He actually has a video on ZelliJ already, but seems like it’s not replaced tmux for him
For tmux old timers like me, Zellij is just to different. It's great, but keybinds and everything is difficult to configure like tmux. I also have access to tmux remotely in my work so it's nice to know tmux with default key binds and just use that everywhere.
The tmux commands also work in zellij. I love it so far. Probably good to know both.
Nice just started trying out SessionX pretty cool
TUMX is a super utility for managing multiple pans.
what terminal are using in the video
Definitely! I’m running Wezterm, which BTW has its own multiplexing capabilities. But Tmux is portable and can do anything :)
@@devopstoolbox can you please share your wezterm config file
There’s already a session picker in tmux, prefix s. I use a simple fzf script for this with bat preview, which is marginally nicer than the built in picker. Your one looks marginally nicer than the script. However, I really don’t like visual clutter. The best way to reduce visual clutter is to keep the information in your brain. You really should know that session A is for project A’ etc, this eliminates the need for the preview. Of course, the ultimate session switcher would probably involve just hitting some keys and switching immediately without any fzf picker intermediate step. More reliance on memory leads to less reliance on visuals.
Interesting thoughts, I have a similar view with using things like AI
I get what you’re saying but there’s a bit of a conflict there for me - I’m relying on memory only once I figure a structure I like, the way there is with something I can work with to manage the structure for a while. Moreover, mostly people don’t think like you and I and this is partially for them.
I know about the native session picket it’s mentioned in the video, but like you, I didn’t like it or the native bindings to cycle through sessions not to mention the lack of lifecycle basic management
@@devopstoolbox I hear what you’re saying. Plug-in looks super cool by the way. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the fzf-tmux pop up to work. I left an issue report. I also liked your idea of having permanent sessions for things like configuration. These type of permanent settings can be very useful. Keep up the good work ;-)
I had fzf version 0.37.0, after upgrading to 0.46.1, it works. I'm going to give your plugin a try, gotta say, even after my talk of visual clutter, it's still better than what I currently have, by a long way.
Now, to configure a session for configuring...
@@nickmills8476 thanks mate! I’ll get to all issues this week and updare
Will you eventually make a discord or something?
At some point I will :) Too much on my plate right now. I’m always available on Telegram or Twitter though (@devopstoolbox). When I’m ready for a community server I’ll create one!
Wait, no mention of the repo URL in the description? 😆
I don’t know what’s more worrying - me literally forgetting the one important link in the description, or you being the first one to notice after 6 hours LOL. Thanks BTW :)
Yeah, I was like "interesting; let me check the github", and then "am I blind?? it should be here somewhere" 😅
@@farzadmf 🤦♂️🤣🤦♀️
Aren't sessions like having multiple virtual desktops?
Hmm, I suppose you can look at it this way. At the end of the day it's just a bunch of shells contained in another box
i love sessions, separate my brain well
i feel like josh's sesh does all of this and more. Also it exists outside of tmux which gives it the advantage of being fast and can run outside tmux
Yeah the chain of events was Josh creating the t smart manager, which I took inspiration from to build this, and then he created sesh!
Sesh is amazing, but an overkill for my requirements here.
I like having it as a small plugin that runs inside my tmux server and lives there
come back here to comment.
my man, thank you very much, i couldn't asking more. it is great, really great!!!
All I want is the fancy top info bar lol 😂 I’m a simple person
add which-key nvim on your nvim repo pls
WDYM? To my dotfiles or something to do with this plugin?
@@devopstoolbox Lol! I'd be happy to use your Vim configuration, but it's a bit difficult for me since I'm not familiar with the commands. I was wondering if you could recommend adding a plugin to your dotfiles that might be helpful for beginners like myself?
@@dillysluvu ah, I don’t use which key but you can easily add it yourself :)
My approach is learning the motions myself rather than relying on something to back me up
I only use tmux for sessions heh
I usually really like the things you showcase, but this one just feels really weird. I honestly can't think of a single usecase for using this over tmux-sessionizer.
The whole idea is to have a way to get where you want to go as fast as possible, with as little overhead as possible in terms of cognitive load. What is the point of having a pretty window to show your sessions/windows instead of just fuzzy searching the name of a directory and pressing enter?
Maybe it's just not my use case, but in general this feels extremely unnecessary.
And about having to add a script to create sessions for you, I agree it would be better if this was a native feature, but I still think that a small 10-line script I can modify myself is WAY better than adding 7 different dependencies to my tmux configs.
Ok so, yes not everyone going to like everything that’s ok 😎
The plugin is made by, and for, lots of different use cases. My process was starting by using the preview a lot until O got to a point where I know the names by heart and now it’s just about switching.
So in a way, the plugin lets you grow the workflow with it, you start with learning wheels and over time you adjust (which is why you can configure the views and hide the preview by default).
But also, other users don’t care about friction as much and do use the preview daily and that’s for them as well.
Beyond everything, from time to time O actually do use it with a randomly created session that I can control from my plugin.
Hope this explains things. Theres a reason why there are lots of tools, IDEs and hardware…
zellij
Haha. Zellij has a warm spot in my heart!
I am always on up to date packages , #IUseArchBtw