Hornby Dublo 103 'Flying Scotsman' & Why You Don't Need The Most Expensive Models
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- As part of the #FlyingScotsman100 celebrations, Hornby released a set of six limited edition models of the famous 'Flying Scotsman' locomotive for OO. The twist with these models is that they are all fully die-cast! I chose the 1946 version, R30210, but do you gain anything over other version of 'Flying Scotsman', die-cast or otherwise?
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Nice vid, btw the dublo model you have is actually an A3, the distinguishing feature is the pair of square superheater header covers present behind the chimney on A3s. While it is true that only A3s had banjo domes, the early A3 boilers had round domes.
Flying Scotsman isn't an A3 in this, as she was still an A1 in 1946. Scotsman was converted into an A3 in January 1947.
@@tgeiii3554 you're right that the conversion was finished in 1947, but this dublo model is certainly an A3, with the 94HP boiler with a round dome. The model and 1946 branding don't match!
I have the previous tooling A3 Flying Scotsman from Hornby. Got it for £125 (I think) from Locomotiion Models a good few years back now and from what I can tell in the video the detail levels on the new Dublo one don't look that much better. So to reiterate what was said in the video the older tools are still very much worth getting if you can find them. That being said though that diecast boiler must feel lovely and that paint finish looks great too. I'm glad you enjoy this model like you do too. I mean that's what these are for
HONEY THE NEW FLYING SCOTT VIDEO JUST DROPPED! GET THE POPCORN!
lovely review. I'm still waiting for my Hornby dublo Scotsman, and I'm glad that I seem to be getting a very nice and quality model. You also make a very good point about the detail of the old scotsman Vs the new scotsman, when I saw your tweet on twitter I thought you bought two dublo scotsmans for a second lol, guess I should think before I tweeted my reply. Hope your day is well!
I have the USA Tour and the 1923 as built version. And the Dublo one you have is also the A3 but before BR gave it the Banjo Dome.
I’ve said this in your discord server, but I got the 1963 preservation Flying Scotsman in February 2023. I noticed a paint chip on the dome with some other glue spots as well, as well as the reverser rod being bent. I thought it was just unacceptable at the £363 price tag. I am however going to send it back to England sometime soon, despite the model being over a year old. But I’m fine paying for the repairs. Other than that, this was a great video!
Love your content!❤
I'm kinda glad this year the Southern railway doesn't have much in the way of new models coming out. It's giving me resources to work on my own layout of Gosport Railway station.
I have the gold plated 103. And Alan pegler 4472. Been debating grabbing the 1924 British empire exhibition version of the gold plated too. They are fantastic kit
Nice Review!, Also that's actually an A3. Some A3s did have the round dome but you can tell that a pacific is an A3 by the box thing or cover at the smokebox.
That would be the superheater headers? Also Scotsman was rebuilt into an A3 in 1947 so I took the year on the box as gospel as to it therefor being an A1.
@@FlyingScott Yes, also oh huh that's strange since it clearly is an A3 on the model. But despite that Nice review non the less!
Yeah it appears to be 1947 condition and Hornby just got the year wrong
The best A3’s to get are the Hornby Ltd gloss editions:
- Firdaussi (LNER green)
- Flying Scotsman (Locomotion Models, BR Green)
They look as good as Bachmann and Bassett Lowke.
Or even better, a Finney A1/A3! That way you dont have to deal with the chassis block being visible, you can easily get visible inside motion, and you dont have the flimsy, unrealistic Hornby tinplate valve gear!
I reckon an original hornby Dublo one would be cheaper
I sold my early 1980s tender drive one at my Club's annual Exhibition in March. An old boy bought it whose Dad worked at the original Hornby factory on Binns Road in Liverpool 😮. But that old loco had a beautiful paint finish and was the green colour shade as per your video, so an eye catcher. I sold it because I was awaiting delivery of the new Dublo original 1923 version.
Upon its delivery, I too thought that only one red ribbon lid tie was a bit mean. The loco's boiler dome also immediately fell off, so I had to glue it back on.
I too first tested it with a 9V battery & the wheels and motion rotated with great ease, which was a first. Locos normally struggle, so I suspect it will be an excellent runner. On your demonstration, it certainly has presence and gravitas, probably its extra weight on the rails gives it a different rolling noise to the lighter plastic versions. My original 1964 made 2-rail Hornby Dublo A4 makes a similar rolling noise.
i agree that the model looks nice
but i wouldnt buy it
because details like rivits become invisible when you stand less then half a meter away
and to me thats just a waste of money
i got the limited edition of flying scotsman with 2 tenders from the 90s and its a great runner and looks good from a distance and close up
There is one other benefit for diecast over plastic, though - performance. I currently have three, soon to be four, N-scale steam locomotives - a Bachmann 4-8-2 USRA Light Mountain, a Model Power/MRC Modern Baldwin 4-4-0 American, and a KATO JNR D51. The KATO model has dual traction tires so it outperforms my other steamers, but of the other two, my 4-4-0 actually outpulls my 4-8-2 because its diecast body gives it more weight and thus more traction. I know that Hornby models tend to be pretty light compared to other brands, so that diecast Scotsman will likely be able to pull a longer train than its plastic siblings, _especially_ on layouts with grades.
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The LNER 1946 livery is in my opinion. Somehow more interesting than the pre 1946 livery.
Remind me, what is your layout based on/set in?
Scotland (no duh), 1947.
Flying Scotsman was converted to an A3 in 1946. During WW2 the loco was an A1 and painted black. It didn't get repainted Doncaster green until it was converted to an A3.
I've got the USA Tour version as I missed out on the 2013 and the 2020 editions. I'm glad I waited I'm very happy with it. Got her for 300£ from the Model Centre and yes, while it is extremely expensive but I think hornby knows that the Flying Scotsman centenary is a big celebration and that people will pay it regardless just like I did. Mine arrived with a broken dome it came off when I opened the model in the box. Had to glue it back in. Annoying, but that A-side she's my favorite model in the collection the double tender, cowcatcher and light look so good. My first detailed and modern locomotive. I really like it a lot
I've also got two A1 / A3 locomotives, but neither of them are Scotsman. Instead they are 2599 'Book Law' and 4476 'Royal Lancer'.
Hi, catching up on your older videos. A joy to watch. I wondered, have you considered removing your Thomas style Scotsman's face and replacing it with a oroper smokebox door, or perhaps that would spoil it as a collector's item?
Nah, that would take away from my connection to the thing. My attachment to my collection is stronger than my dislike for Thomas :)
I have the Flying Scotsman 1969 U.S.A Tour with double tenders
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The Hornby Dublo range is not my favourite at all. I find the models are very overpriced, as a model being made of nearly all metal is not a reason for charging an extra £100 in my opinion, as models such as the new Hornby 9f, the B12, D16, The Peckett, the Dapol D Class, (etc.) all have a lot of metal work as well, and do not cost nearly as much as this. I personally will be waiting until Hornby bring back the Apple Green Scotsman into their railways range when I pick up one for myself. Great Video, and keep up the great work!
on the topic of Flying Scotsman, Modelrailroading, and price what are your thoughts on the Märklin/Trix model?
marklin making British engines already felt weird…
@@anindrapratama not that strange Märklin once made a warship model and Trix also had some British models in the past in both H0 and N as far as I know
The only one worth it would have been the usa tour since it's hard to find one at decent price. Not saying the newest one is a decent price.
Looks nice just like my scottsman but no white lining on the wheels
just wondering with all these wonderful locomotives will you ever make a running section video of your engines.
I kinda want the Trix HO Flying Scotsman.
God save me...
When is the America sings modern time it coming out 😢
Hi mate
I hope you are well
A very nice model.
But am happy with GN
Don't get me wrong your fs is stunning.
How different is the loco and tender connection compared to dapols one.
Look very similar to each other
Thank you for sharing your models with us
Keep safe ARP
I have no clue with the Dapol one, for I don't own any modern Dapol locomotives.
Do you recommend getting a starter set to start out
Hello,
Have you seen the Märklin Flying Scotsman? What’s your opinion on it.
Although I do not own one myself, I have handled and ran one just fine. I don't run primarily H0 scale, so she's not for me. The BR green is correct though!
now buy the marklin HO scotsman once it's out haha
Can you make a videos about the BR Class 17 & The GWR 111 Great Bear. Please respond when you get this please.
I already responded to your comments two months ago. The fact you ignored it does not warrant another reply.
Be careful with these Dublo Scotsman’s; the two I’ve come into contact with thus far have suffered a broken off dome. Super glue repairs were required because the actual “plug” was sheered off in transit ala W1-gate.
The dirty wheels seem a common issue too but I’m hoping this means they’ve been tested prior to shipping.
I thought I was the only one same thing happened to me with my usa tour scotsman.
Your ran lucky I got the 2016 one and it didn’t even work.
Hah, it thinks itself scottish!