@@helgi2925 I think it should be compared to man. What is the use case of man? To learn how to use software. And tldr? The same thing, just less detailed. I agree, tldr is not a substitute for man, but for day to day use in Linux, especially for beginner users, this is exceptionally useful software.
Helpful as usual. But you keep taking me back to my Unix days, when I lived out of the MAN pages and had a lot of them printed for easy reference. I'm much happier with GNU Linux, mostly because you and others have helped me shorten the learning curve. Of course being retired gives me more time to learn and that's another advantage
I'm not even sure that this qualifies as basics 😁 It was never clear to me what the conventions and rules were supposed to be distinguishing the three. Good video, thanks 👍
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People spending huge amounts of time writing man pages for their peaces of software trying to cover all of the functionality their software have in one single document DT: don't read those novels, use tldr instead! But actually I really agree, I want to see a new standard in the unix-like operating systems world where man pages are used to explain everything related to the programs, while tldr shows the most common use cases of those programs, so if you just want to use a certain program read tldr but if you want master it and know everything the program allows you to do with details then read the man, I hope so.
terminal is not for noobs or regular users....everything in terminal should be in the GUI and its not. ...regular people should NEVER SEE IT. but they all will with linux.. computers became accepted because of the GUI and not before.. and people have only gotten worse...stop giving a pass to lazy devs who dont want to spend the time making a gui checkbox/dropdown menu slide adjuster popup tooltip etc.....
This kind of information is nigh impossible to bring to a GUI interface. Think of something like the find or ffmpeg commands, who have so many options it would take a stupidly long amount of time for developers to port them over to a usable and logical interface. Even then, such a program would be much worse to use, both from a UX and performance standpoints, than its original CLI counterpart. And if you want information, many man/info pages can be found online so technically they are in a GUI anyway - having them in the CLI is for ease of access for people who actually want to use the terminal. If you are a basic user who doesn't have advanced needs, why are you complaining about terminal functionality not being in a GUI? Basic users have all the functionality they want in GUI programs such as their file managers and whatnot, if they want to go even further beyond that then they would need to learn the terminal.
The tldr command is probably my favourite
tldr provides the most basic information on the most common use cases. It is not documentation and should not be compared to man
@@helgi2925I run it far more than I run man ngl. And if there's something you want that isn't in it, you can add it yourself
@@helgi2925 you're supposed to use it in 80% and man for the rest
I used it for the first time after this video and it is a fantastic tool.
@@helgi2925 I think it should be compared to man. What is the use case of man? To learn how to use software. And tldr? The same thing, just less detailed. I agree, tldr is not a substitute for man, but for day to day use in Linux, especially for beginner users, this is exceptionally useful software.
Helpful as usual. But you keep taking me back to my Unix days, when I lived out of the MAN pages and had a lot of them printed for easy reference. I'm much happier with GNU Linux, mostly because you and others have helped me shorten the learning curve. Of course being retired gives me more time to learn and that's another advantage
Man, that's a very good command for info pages, right there.
I see what you did there. Good one!
I'm a simple man. I see a new DT video, I give it a like.
When you start using Linux, those long Man pages create more despair than help. Tldr saved my sanity.
I generally read the help pages as a middle ground
Having adhd and reading a man with default color scheme is torture.
Thank you Derek. This was a very helpful video!
Thanks GT for updating
Didnt know about tldr. Also, im creating my own help system too.
Hey, DT how about video on how to in create man and info.
Me too!
2:08 "Let's do a man on man.." youtube demonitization imminent...
Wow! Thank you!
Need an explanation about the knickers song. What is that all about?
I'm not even sure that this qualifies as basics 😁 It was never clear to me what the conventions and rules were supposed to be distinguishing the three. Good video, thanks 👍
13:01 -- tldr find
👍
🎶man man man man manly man man man 🎵
As a GNU guy, I prefer info pages
Yeah, they should add colors!
On Fedora, info is a unknown command. In fact man info shows it as an openssl command.
I like the perl way from VOID, aswell as adding some more manpages sources.
But a slim OS requires more docs than LoC's of the CODE itself😂
A. Distro Tube excellent and informative video.
B. Distro Tube please keep up the great work!!!
C. Distro Tube please rename the video to. Learn The basics - Man Pages versus Info Pages verses Help Pages verses TLDR pages.
D. Distro Tube please continue to get on life's stage and let your Godly inner light shine. Please continue to climb life's ladder and let the world see The Great and Wonderful Gifts, Talents, and Treasures that are inside of you.
E. Distro Tube You Go Gentleman!!!
F. Distro Tube Please Stay Safe.
G Distro Tube God Bless You!!!
When it comes to internet history in the early 1970's the internet was being used. Mostly by universities and large corporations.
😄 👍👌...
People spending huge amounts of time writing man pages for their peaces of software trying to cover all of the functionality their software have in one single document
DT: don't read those novels, use tldr instead!
But actually I really agree, I want to see a new standard in the unix-like operating systems world where man pages are used to explain everything related to the programs, while tldr shows the most common use cases of those programs, so if you just want to use a certain program read tldr but if you want master it and know everything the program allows you to do with details then read the man, I hope so.
Sometimes apropos can be useful.
....just read the Arch wiki, because Arch doesn't even come with man pages.
C-h i on emacs will launch info
What is the most gender neutral manpage reader?
I don't like neovim, I like vim not neovim how to Man page vim not noevim??
Woman is actually better, because why would i leave my home emacs😅
First.
man is unreadable machine-like generated unstructured dump . Its not for common user, its probably only for serious bash script programmers
batman > man
Man pages are bloat.
terminal is not for noobs or regular users....everything in terminal should be in the GUI and its not.
...regular people should NEVER SEE IT. but they all will with linux.. computers became accepted because of the GUI and not before.. and people have only gotten worse...stop giving a pass to lazy devs who dont want to spend the time making a gui checkbox/dropdown menu slide adjuster popup tooltip etc.....
There is a good reason for that
you like being 2%????...you like no driver support?@@DrCryptex
Are you high?
This kind of information is nigh impossible to bring to a GUI interface. Think of something like the find or ffmpeg commands, who have so many options it would take a stupidly long amount of time for developers to port them over to a usable and logical interface. Even then, such a program would be much worse to use, both from a UX and performance standpoints, than its original CLI counterpart.
And if you want information, many man/info pages can be found online so technically they are in a GUI anyway - having them in the CLI is for ease of access for people who actually want to use the terminal.
If you are a basic user who doesn't have advanced needs, why are you complaining about terminal functionality not being in a GUI? Basic users have all the functionality they want in GUI programs such as their file managers and whatnot, if they want to go even further beyond that then they would need to learn the terminal.
look at where "computers being accepted" has gotten us
we live in a full on cyberpunk dystopia, without any exaggeration