Finally set up my SPT for a long form playthrough for the first time, and seeing how it also uses realism and PTT I doubt I will be changing to 3.10 any time soon.
The unlimited spawns are obnoxiously bad. Bots spawn right under your nose in sectors you've cleared. The game is mega broken, waiting for mods to disable spawns.
@@chrisjvas In pve they are spawning pretty far away from you, and only scavs, but in SPT they are spawning 30 meters away from you in a building that you've cleared and secured. Or, for example, one spawned right behind me after 10 seconds since i've entered the map
There's a few locations now where I've found if you get stuck in that spot endless scavs keep showing up. Streets is the biggest offender followed by customs
@@justarandompotato6272 Hate to be the one to break this to you, but SWAG+Donuts is no longer being developed as of september 2024. At least not by the original developer. It's open source so someone else might pick it up, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
And as far as SAIN is concerned, the developer has indicated (on Github) that he will update SAIN to work with 3.10, but will also stop active development after that. I'm hoping BetterSpawnsPlus will be updated to 3.10 as an alternative for SWAGNUTS, but for SAIN there really is no alternative. As far as I'm concerned SPT is literally unplayable without SWAGNUTS and SAIN, so interesting times ahead for sure.
@@ashe1.070 I have 70 mods and I haven’t touched load order. Only thing I’ve found that didn’t work quite right was a trader who should have all the mechanic quest guns
Love the new changes. Game looks so much better in the 3.10 update. Feels very new. But man these stutters/fps drops is something to get tired of.. And I have a pretty beefy pc. Looking forward for a fix and SAIN to be updated. So much potential and fun, both in SPT and FIKA if you like the coop experience. Much love
Wooooo! I was worried my live eft version was too far ahead of the current spt build and i would have to miss out. Although it seems like things are pretty rough around the edges so I'll probably hold off at least until SAIN gets updated, if it does
@@yellowsaurus4895 no matter what live EFT you have itll backdate a EFT download for you so you can run SPT at anytime (only on new downloads, like 3.10 at time of writing) Otherwise you have to manually do it
Falling snow is tied to the “rain” weather status while in winter season. Any mod that can edit the weather in server mods or client mods can remove it.
@@hdvrNG I’m pretty sure thats how it should work back in SPT 3.9.x. Before finding the offending config file, I was regularly turning down heavy snow (rain) into light snow or no snow using a weather changer client mod. You just need a mod to make the season winter to keep ground snow permanent. If ground snow is tied to falling snow it sounds more like the surprise event that introduced snow way back at the start of this year in Live Tarkov.
sorry if its a dumb question but in the vid 'Legacy spt versions are not hosted online anymore' so 3.9.8 is no longer possible to download? completely new to tarkov as of this week so was thinking about SPT for future but seems 3.10 coming out wont be fully stable for a while? maybe if I wanna play sooner I can play old SPT versions with mod support or the old version (3.9.8) is not possible to download now?
Not a dumb question at all! This stuff can be very confusing when you're new to it. But yeah, they don't keep the old versions of SPT up anymore unfortunately. If you wanna play now you'll have to deal with the jank, or wait, I'm afraid. If it were me and i was completely new to tarkov, i might wait on spt and just try normal tarkov pve for a while. That way SPT should be pretty stable by the time you get to it, plus you'll have more of an appreciation for how it improves the pve experience and a better idea of how you might want to mod it. Just make sure you make a copy of the current EFT live files, that way you'll still have a copy that's compatible with SPT 3.10 in case the live gets updated in the meantime.
@@yellowsaurus4895 Yeah I see, was confused coz when you go to SPT it shows a list of repositories and stable versions of SPT so I guessed I could just download it any time but Yeah ive also got the most updated live files so it wouldn't work with 3.9 anyways is what you're saying? so ill need to actually keep a copy of live files which don't get updated? along side my main pvp live files so Id have two installations of the game basically? and also sorry but im so unaware about how safe it is like can i have both SPT installed and play live pvp at any time like i dont have to suddenly stop playing live pvp tarkov just coz ive installed SPT or is it risky? i understand it to be a seperate instance of the game and as long as i dont have the spt server and mods loaded into the live files or have the server open and running while i try to load up pvp live tarkov I should be fine right? any help is appreciated
fair warning, no more alt-f4 due to the change to singleplayer as a base if im correct, oh well, i need to be a better man in this game anyways! factory is insane too!
@fadedreaper86 nope just 3.10, that's why it threw me off, as in 3.9 and before you could, but there will always be a mod that lets you keep your gear and so on, svm is already up to date and it has that feature, right now I'm just waiting for insurance plus, as i still like to lose my gear if I'm not insured
I'm just waiting for SAIN to be update and then I'm switching over. Still sucks about SWAG + DONUTS' original author took a leave now from the mod but I'm hopeful that someone will pick up his work and continue it eventually
I love your work wanted to go all in on SPT but after the first BIGGER Update and since then i only hear bad things, broken stuff mods that have to be updated constantly. And i just dont have a version because i waited in the first place :/And since SWAG+Donut Modders quit for good this thing is dead for me back to GAMMA.
I'm hearing plenty of good things and there's still plenty of time for many new mods to show up. What's more, MOAR is a perfectly fine alternative to SWAG+Donuts and it's even better for PC performance.
@@thestarvox That is absolutely true many good things as well. But a sentiment that I got from many people like me starting out before or in the bigger Update Cycle was - At this rate we Don't mod a game to play we just mod the thing most of the time instead of playing. Anyways keep doing what you do the community appreciates this as far as I can tell ! See you in the Zone someday :)
i love spt but its hard to get back into tarkov in general after bsg made the horrid decision with the armor. the armor was much better when you could actually shoot somone in unprotected areas and they actually take damage not hit fake armor. it would be great if a mod came out to revert the armor back to when it was good and not unrealistic and fake... id do it but i cant mod and dont know where to star to learn but this is my sad predicament and probly wont be partaking ion 3.10
@@theomegakiller7059 SAIN's creator said that he is stepping down due to personal reasons which is one of the biggest oofs beside ID changes, no legacy support and cancelled mods.
@@EliseNewmaker on github, in a discussion of his mod, the author wrote that after the release of 3.10 he would update sain. But there will be no new features
@@EliseNewmaker on github, in a discussion of his mod, the author wrote that after the release of 3.10 he would update sain. But there will be no new features
Also I played a bit of pve the past couple days and i can confirm the audio SUCKS. It sounds like everything's surrounding you at all times. I died to a scav on ground zero because every time i turned left it sounded like he was on my right, and every time i turned right it sounded like he was on my left. This didnt happen in 3.8.3, so yeah they went and fucked it up again lol
Man, 40 fps on Woods,what the hell did BSG do. Please SPT moders stop copying bad code, I know you are better than this. It's literally unplayable on a gtx 1080 with a 8 series intel, can not play a shooter with this fps😢, I'm dipping to below 30 fps on Customs. Please @thestarvox , if you have anyone in the SPT dev community let them know ,that players can't really play 3.10
Thank you for making this video. So many awesome changes and additions but I am still going to wait for the mods to get updated.
Finally set up my SPT for a long form playthrough for the first time, and seeing how it also uses realism and PTT I doubt I will be changing to 3.10 any time soon.
@@Nek1i whats PTT? Push to talk?
The unlimited spawns are obnoxiously bad. Bots spawn right under your nose in sectors you've cleared. The game is mega broken, waiting for mods to disable spawns.
Cant agree more, there are times where I just had to go on a killing frenzy at dorms bc the bots spawning nearby kept rushing me
Yall talking about spt or pve? Genuine question because I play pve and this is for sure a problem there 😂
@@chrisjvas In pve they are spawning pretty far away from you, and only scavs, but in SPT they are spawning 30 meters away from you in a building that you've cleared and secured. Or, for example, one spawned right behind me after 10 seconds since i've entered the map
There's a few locations now where I've found if you get stuck in that spot endless scavs keep showing up. Streets is the biggest offender followed by customs
What mods would fix that? Donuts ?
Realism and sain, and I am moving to new update :)
still waiting for sain to be updated to start new profile on 3.10
Same here.
Already downloaded some of the mods that is updated to 3.10 spt
Just waiting for SAIN and SWAG+Donuts to be updated to 3.10.0
@@justarandompotato6272 Hate to be the one to break this to you, but SWAG+Donuts is no longer being developed as of september 2024. At least not by the original developer. It's open source so someone else might pick it up, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
And as far as SAIN is concerned, the developer has indicated (on Github) that he will update SAIN to work with 3.10, but will also stop active development after that. I'm hoping BetterSpawnsPlus will be updated to 3.10 as an alternative for SWAGNUTS, but for SAIN there really is no alternative. As far as I'm concerned SPT is literally unplayable without SWAGNUTS and SAIN, so interesting times ahead for sure.
@@justarandompotato6272 SWAG+Donuts guy quit from what I read
@@jaylebowski97453.10 is his last one
3.10 gave me massive performance improvements, went from an average of 40 fps to 60ish with top ends going from 100 to 140
That's great!
My 3.9.8 is over 70GB with 300+ mods, I ain't installing vanilla lol
Real
Damn. Getting that load order to work properly was probably a giant pain in the ass.
Do you have a list of your mods? I'm curious what even goes into such a large installation
Same , wanna see the list 🎉❤
@@ashe1.070 I have 70 mods and I haven’t touched load order. Only thing I’ve found that didn’t work quite right was a trader who should have all the mechanic quest guns
Love the new changes. Game looks so much better in the 3.10 update. Feels very new. But man these stutters/fps drops is something to get tired of.. And I have a pretty beefy pc. Looking forward for a fix and SAIN to be updated. So much potential and fun, both in SPT and FIKA if you like the coop experience. Much love
There’s a build of the 3.10 update for SAIN provided by another developer that can be found linked in our Discord servers.
@ That sounds awesome. Will definitely be looking into that! Thank you for the reply StarVox
You’re welcome
Wooooo! I was worried my live eft version was too far ahead of the current spt build and i would have to miss out. Although it seems like things are pretty rough around the edges so I'll probably hold off at least until SAIN gets updated, if it does
@@yellowsaurus4895 no matter what live EFT you have itll backdate a EFT download for you so you can run SPT at anytime (only on new downloads, like 3.10 at time of writing)
Otherwise you have to manually do it
At 0:34 how did you shoot canted like that?
That's the Active Aim stance in Realism Mod.
@ cheers, havent tried realism yet
Still on 3.9.8 learning the maps and quests. Once I complete them all im gonna try a realism zero to hero wipe
I think swag+donut will not get any more updates since the dev quit modding for good
Yep this is true it's pinned as a comment on the mod
And that alone is a death sentence for SPT
@@Brainman234 Not really, just because the guy that made it has dropped modding doesn't mean someone else can't take over
@@Brainman234 someone has apparently taken over
I am eagerly waiting for sain to update, i will migrate as soon as sain is available
How does one modify the snow clipping you mentioned, is it possible to have snow on the ground but not snowing from the sky?
Falling snow is tied to the “rain” weather status while in winter season. Any mod that can edit the weather in server mods or client mods can remove it.
@@AxiamWolfe But that would remove all the snow, I would like the ground snow, just not the falling stuff?!
@@hdvrNG I’m pretty sure thats how it should work back in SPT 3.9.x. Before finding the offending config file, I was regularly turning down heavy snow (rain) into light snow or no snow using a weather changer client mod. You just need a mod to make the season winter to keep ground snow permanent.
If ground snow is tied to falling snow it sounds more like the surprise event that introduced snow way back at the start of this year in Live Tarkov.
you the man Starvox
sorry if its a dumb question but in the vid 'Legacy spt versions are not hosted online anymore' so 3.9.8 is no longer possible to download? completely new to tarkov as of this week so was thinking about SPT for future but seems 3.10 coming out wont be fully stable for a while? maybe if I wanna play sooner I can play old SPT versions with mod support or the old version (3.9.8) is not possible to download now?
Not a dumb question at all! This stuff can be very confusing when you're new to it. But yeah, they don't keep the old versions of SPT up anymore unfortunately. If you wanna play now you'll have to deal with the jank, or wait, I'm afraid.
If it were me and i was completely new to tarkov, i might wait on spt and just try normal tarkov pve for a while. That way SPT should be pretty stable by the time you get to it, plus you'll have more of an appreciation for how it improves the pve experience and a better idea of how you might want to mod it. Just make sure you make a copy of the current EFT live files, that way you'll still have a copy that's compatible with SPT 3.10 in case the live gets updated in the meantime.
@@yellowsaurus4895 Yeah I see, was confused coz when you go to SPT it shows a list of repositories and stable versions of SPT so I guessed I could just download it any time but Yeah ive also got the most updated live files so it wouldn't work with 3.9 anyways is what you're saying? so ill need to actually keep a copy of live files which don't get updated? along side my main pvp live files so Id have two installations of the game basically? and also sorry but im so unaware about how safe it is like can i have both SPT installed and play live pvp at any time like i dont have to suddenly stop playing live pvp tarkov just coz ive installed SPT or is it risky? i understand it to be a seperate instance of the game and as long as i dont have the spt server and mods loaded into the live files or have the server open and running while i try to load up pvp live tarkov I should be fine right? any help is appreciated
I remember the times when I could just downgrade stuff myself and install the oldest version.
Thanks for the vid :-)
Чтож, теперь ждем когда модеры обновят свои моды
Still in 3.8.3 with 40 mods 😂
I still have a 2.9 build 😭
@@fruitsie2583 This is before inertia ? i was thinking how it was since we play with inertia now..kinda miss the speedy peak advantage ngl
Funny. I'm on the same version.
fair warning, no more alt-f4 due to the change to singleplayer as a base if im correct, oh well, i need to be a better man in this game anyways! factory is insane too!
That's good to know!
I didn't catch that!
That's really annoying because the "hands are busy" bug still exists, if you get that bug but Alt F4 to try to save your raid you lose regardless
just 3.10 and etc? or even the old ones? like 3.9?
@@fadedreaper86 I got the bug on 3.8.9, I wouldn't be surprised if its still a thing
@fadedreaper86 nope just 3.10, that's why it threw me off, as in 3.9 and before you could, but there will always be a mod that lets you keep your gear and so on, svm is already up to date and it has that feature, right now I'm just waiting for insurance plus, as i still like to lose my gear if I'm not insured
god damn it I missed your voice man, i'm straight and have a wifey, yet you make me happy :D
I aim to please
Ждём модов. Хочу поставить максимальный хардкор в сейне и реализме и сражаться с зомбями. Если выставить погоду вручную - будет очень круто.
Yeah, that will be super cool to try with the zombies.
I hope that it'll work without a problem when the mods get updated properly.
@thestarvox mist, cold rain and no ammo left.
Been too busy playing stalker 2 lately. SPT is shoved to the side atm.
in spt 3.10 they add boss from Night of The Cult ?
im so scaared to mess with any updates, i run almost your exact modlist for realism and it works fine i dont wana touch it....but zombiessssss
You won't be changing your 3.9 installation if you get SPT 3.10.
They're kept separately.
@thestarvox I see! Thankyou for clarifying look forward too more videos 🤙
thanks
You're welcome
I'm just waiting for SAIN to be update and then I'm switching over. Still sucks about SWAG + DONUTS' original author took a leave now from the mod but I'm hopeful that someone will pick up his work and continue it eventually
Won’t be long now and don’t forget to keep an eye out for an update to MOAR!
@thestarvox Yea that’s probably going to be my go-to bot spawning mod until S+D gets picked up again :)
theres a test relese for SAIN, works on 3.10. Bots kicking my ass 😅
I like it rough.
That ID change is a oof. And they still don't have good docs on the SPT site for how to actually make mods.
I thought Stalker 2 is big realese for late 2024 but it's tarkov actually.
ikr, lol
I kind of regret updating to 3.10 😂 I want to go back
How come?
@thestarvox seems like alot of modders who make amazing QoL mods for SPT are just done updating constantly 😭 SWAG + Donuts, etc etc
I feel you
@@tvwizard369 S+D is not a QoL mod
I love your work wanted to go all in on SPT but after the first BIGGER Update and since then i only hear bad things, broken stuff mods that have to be updated constantly. And i just dont have a version because i waited in the first place :/And since SWAG+Donut Modders quit for good this thing is dead for me back to GAMMA.
I'm hearing plenty of good things and there's still plenty of time for many new mods to show up.
What's more, MOAR is a perfectly fine alternative to SWAG+Donuts and it's even better for PC performance.
@@thestarvox That is absolutely true many good things as well.
But a sentiment that I got from many people like me starting out before or in the bigger Update Cycle was - At this rate we Don't mod a game to play we just mod the thing most of the time instead of playing.
Anyways keep doing what you do the community appreciates this as far as I can tell !
See you in the Zone someday :)
aboot time
i love spt but its hard to get back into tarkov in general after bsg made the horrid decision with the armor. the armor was much better when you could actually shoot somone in unprotected areas and they actually take damage not hit fake armor. it would be great if a mod came out to revert the armor back to when it was good and not unrealistic and fake... id do it but i cant mod and dont know where to star to learn but this is my sad predicament and probly wont be partaking ion 3.10
Those changes haven’t impacted me much, I’m having a great time.
No Uzi :(
yah ppl complain about fps drops and RAM occupancy ;( also we need new amands and sain. sooo
amands is already out for 3.10, we're still waiting for sain though.
@theomegakiller7059 YYYOOOOOO GOOD NEWS!
Whats amands?
@@theomegakiller7059 SAIN's creator said that he is stepping down due to personal reasons which is one of the biggest oofs beside ID changes, no legacy support and cancelled mods.
@@comradesillyotter1537Amands sense, graphics.
Both out for 3.10 btw
I can't wait for sain :(((
SAIN's creator said that he is stepping down due to personal reasons
@@EliseNewmaker on github, in a discussion of his mod, the author wrote that after the release of 3.10 he would update sain. But there will be no new features
@@EliseNewmaker on github, in a discussion of his mod, the author wrote that after the release of 3.10 he would update sain. But there will be no new features
@@EliseNewmaker can't just someone update the mod to barely work for 3.10 or something man...
@@albedo4368he actually said his last update will be for 3.10 so hopefully it will come soon
I just play the official offline mode that’s not actually offline
Also I played a bit of pve the past couple days and i can confirm the audio SUCKS. It sounds like everything's surrounding you at all times. I died to a scav on ground zero because every time i turned left it sounded like he was on my right, and every time i turned right it sounded like he was on my left. This didnt happen in 3.8.3, so yeah they went and fucked it up again lol
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Man, 40 fps on Woods,what the hell did BSG do. Please SPT moders stop copying bad code, I know you are better than this. It's literally unplayable on a gtx 1080 with a 8 series intel, can not play a shooter with this fps😢, I'm dipping to below 30 fps on Customs. Please @thestarvox , if you have anyone in the SPT dev community let them know ,that players can't really play 3.10