This is nonsense logic. It's just a matter of time before brand(s) figure out it's bad business not to let consumers repair the products they own and start making repairable products again. Don't buy from companies that make things hard/impossible to repair.
@@shaun.h.barlow If I recall, the ACTUAL issue in this case, was they moved to a more accommodating location, which unfortunately put him well outside the convenience range. Unfortunate, but understandable. 😕 I don't think he's _prohibitively_ far away, like... still in Canaderp, so they can at least still arrange play dates!
The problem with systems like this is that they are all built from components (i.e. the Doosan engine, the generator, the PLC control panel, etc), each of which has undocumented fault codes, that the system integrator doesn't know much about. So of course they are of no help. This kind of stuff is put together using the minimum signalling required to get it to operate, and then sent out the door. Thus, when something breaks, you are not actually doing repair, you are doing the missing engineering.
Is that the norm these days? A couple of three decades ago I worked for a small systems integration house in Arizona. We had to document EVERYTHING for EVERY component of EVERY system we sold. Each system came with an “operating manual” that comprised several banker boxes full of binders (also copies on a small box of floppies which should tell you how long ago this was). One entire binder was just the index. If the manual didn’t get you back up and running, you called us. I fielded calls from a company that had bought a system from us twelve years earlier (before I joined the company). One of our software engineers wrote them a patch because a vendor had stopped making a component and the replacement spoke a slightly different dialect of digital. System back in service before suppertime. But then, our company was owned by a German immigrant, not an Italian. I don’t know if that had anything to do with it.
This is spot on! The most hilarious part is when it doesent even pass commissioning a you work for the integretor and make this realization in the field. Nothing 12-16 hour days in front of the computer and running up and down the stairs to try to get a signal can't fix.
"each of which has undocumented fault codes" No, no no no. if you buy a PLC then you get the documentation down the the lowest level. These things are built intentionally in a way that nobody but the manufacturer can service them normally and if you do not have a support-contract then you are out of luck,.
Not only undocumented codes but unhandled errors and states where engine rev limiter not applied and gearbox starts to use brakes to limit speed. Then manufacturer says your fault, you breaked gearbox etc
As a heavy equipment field tech, everything I just witnessed made complete sense. This is a case study that could be utilized to explain to the wife's and girlfriends as to why you haven't text them back for 6 hours.
I’m a Doosan forklift dealer and their idea of training hilarious. These days if you have a running issue and it has an engine with DEF. It’s probably the DEF system.
@@fredfred2363 Its down right comical. We have a 1970's genset at work that's powered by a Deutz V12 disel ship engine that has more than 7000 hours on it. The old girl belches black smoke like its 1870 London but by God she refuses to give up :D
One of my customers is still running a 1970s Onan with the International 401v8. Tune up parts from Onan are $100 a pop. No one shows any aftermarket options. 2 days of digging, and the cap and rotor and condenser are from a 1960 Studebaker Champ and the points are 1960s VW beetle. Whaddya know, it runs great now. Old stuff was made to be repaired and you can still fix them.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 right up until you find your electronic ignition needs a 2n3055 power transistor which hasn't been made for 10 years or so and is only available as a guaranteed used part (the supplier guarantees it has been used before) Meanwhile there isn't a part on my 1964 split window VW bus I cannot buy, not one of which is from VW!
@@andrewallen9993 That's way more about having equipment that's common vs uncommon. Your VW has an aftermarket, because people modify and rebuild them, if it was electronic ignition you'd be able to get the parts just as easy. That's why if you want something to be fixable for a long time you go with something that has a strong aftermarket or very committed manufacturer support.
@@andrewallen9993 You are looking at the wrong places then, I can get brand new NOS 2N3055s and old used ones too, also power transistors don't age, they fail when you run them out of specs. Just 3 weeks ago I found a destroyed german receiver with 4 2n3055s on the back, all good.
The owner of the largest material handling equipment dealer on the west cost once said "I wouldn't even have a service department if I didn't have to." In the heavy equipment industry, you make money on parts sales and rentals, and that's no big secret. They don't care about how skilled you are. The only thing they want out of you (no matter what bullshit gaslighting lines they feed you) is a high parts sales sheet. That is unless it's a rental. Then they want it done as fast as possible with as few parts used as possible. If you want your skills appreciated, get the hell out of the field service/dealership world.
It's all about $$ - planned obsolescence. Why make something repairable and last 50 years anymore? Make it last 10 years tops so it's out of warranty and time to buy again.
And paper straws wrapped in plastic or provided with a plastic cup. All green washing and market manipulation. Buy the paper straw companies and then mandate paper straws.
I laughed so hard when I saw the wiring and meter. When a job goes down a dark path of time and lessons, where each success brings hope to only be met with another failure. From one repair man to another, this victory was felt wholeheartedly.
Have a friend that some times has to go to a big manufacturer. Hacks and reprograms factory new generators that are heading out into the bush, right in the parking lot of the manufacturer. They are not allowed to sell equipment without all the crap, so he goes there and fixes it before they are shipped out.
I work in process controls and automation. Worked for “Good” tire manufacturer and they have many generators of which many of them need configured and connected to work with plant processes for hot start and also for increasing voltage preload transfer so that our equipment loads up the generator without dipping the voltage. We wipe out the voltage regulator circuit and integrate our own analog control circuit and use a PID and inputs from certain VFDs to control the voltage step up/down to prevent dips/surges. I can tell you that a lot of these diesel gensets can almost run exclusively from a PLC if you have a CAN communication configuration.
Analog beats digital, the rest is software wich says go or no go. But you make it sound simple....I think you are a small god in your knowing of the matter 😉
Ohh now that's sweet. SCADA and then you harden the "weak" parts! Your reflash firmware, I take it? Or are the upgrades "transparent"? I hoped you worked there more than a great year
The proper procedure is to get it purring just the once. Data log the outputs from all sensors on the... extraneous systems, and then whip up some circuitry that happens to always provide those "everything is A OK here" signals and wire that in. Then if those extraneous systems happen to, say, accidentally fall off on a windy day, you're good!
That's never gonna happen one off. You would have to get BALLS deep into CAN bus hacking and making a emulator fir the EAT ECM. And even at that, the probability you produce something in the realm of as 'reliable' as a working DEF system is very very slim. It's not just a matter of emulating NOx differential and temps. There is an entire map of expected values at given variables.
Easy to say, harder to implement, some sensors are running control loops. Also the computer expects the signal to change when it strts or idles and normalize under load, if it stays constant, you will get errors. In general, not just for DEF systems. Like in other cases at startup the confuser runs the flaps from end to end, expecting end stop signals, ramps fans up to max speed and check rpm, you need to understand the system to know which siglals to probe and how to use them to modulate your tricked signal.
If i would get a job like this. I would try to have a can controller send the messages that the exhaust ecu sends. Because this is 'heavy duty', it would be the j1939 protocol used for the exhaust system. With the time that i would put in it, it wouldn't be profitable untill you want to do about 5 systems to spread the cost of development (depending on the specific machinery and what the possible margin is).
If you're on a farm, you could just send the Bosch ECU to a specialist that reprograms it to work without DEF. Just make sure he knows what he's doing, cause there are many amateurs that will cause damage to your engine in the long run.
@@MorbeynYep, all them brands known to reliably rapidly self-disassemble if not deliberately disassembled and reassembled with the replacement of several dozen thousand doll hairs worth of parts in between. As for replacement parts… at least uncle Bumblefuck’s generator set doesn’t have hand-hammered body panels.
I saw what was called a demotivational poster. It showed a large body of water with the bow of a ship sticking out of it. Underneath was written: "THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF YOUR LIFE COULD BE JUST TO SERVE AS A WARNING TO OTHERS"
This is why I love Edison Motors. They are a bunch of Canadians that got fed up with the state of modern companies, specifically Tesla, and decided to build their own diesel/electric semi truck. They are completely about an owners right to repair, they provide all codes, part numbers, and use off the shelf parts you can find virtually anywhere. We need better right to repair laws in North America.
I understand why people like them, but if you come from an OE automotive background you understand what complete clowns they are. They're getting nowhere they never will.
@@otm646 I'm OE automotive and I don't think they're clowns. I love the product and the ethos. Although you're probably right that they aren't going very far, very fast. It's unlikely they'll ever become a big player. I hope they get more orders than they have the capacity to facilitate indefinitely, though. Then again. OE automotive is so arrogant like that, that Tesla came out of nowhere and took a huge chunk of the market. BYD too. OE said EV couldn't and wouldn't happen. Tesla did it anyway (before Elon). Now the long standing manufacturers are racing to catch up. And because the EV only manufacturers don't have the inertia of "we've been doing this a hundred years and we'll keep doing it because it ain't broken" 99% of the innovation comes from EV only start ups and when you drive one, then drive a legacy auto equivalent it's obvious that the EV is a blank sheet of paper "how to make the best product", and the legacy version is "why are they doing this with an EV?! EV can be better than this!"... Although, without the long standing experience the EV only brands do make some mistakes too.
We're fighting for Right to Repair on the medical side too. There are no laws requiring any sort of support after sale for medical equipment. Everything seems to be moving to OEM only repairs / flat rate repairs, or complete replacement for minor malfunctions...
Same in the science field. And any parts you can get are 10-20 times the price you would expect. $300 for a new set of viton o-rings, but as soon as we got them we had them measured and we now get spare sets for $10 locally. Sizes and part numbers are written down in the back cover of the manuals for future reference.
"Sir, if first I can have you power the unit off and then back on... Is the unit back online now?" - 1st line of defense for customer service Also, they probably have a "proprietary" connector that converts the standardized connector into their own and call it J1984 or some shit. Geeeeeeeeeezzzz.
Unrelated :I work at a Cat plant. They had to drop power to rewire some feeders. When power come back up it wiped out the program for the allen bradley system. Guess what that controls ? All the supply and exhaust air for the building and all the glycol heating pumps. They had to go to the attic to find a Allen bradley computer from 1977 to reboot system. It had vacuum tubes in it. Lmao .That happened oct 2024
Jesus. They still running a PLC 1 or 2?!?!?! Can't complain about the cards for those units though, nice, big, through hole components. Easy to repair, unlike the modern ROHS surface mount shit.
You'd think companies would realized it's in their best interest to quit penny pinching and replace old computers like that now, because at some point they will die and not only will nobody will know anything about how it works, but unplanned downtime and emergency pay will cost a heck of a lot more than a short planned upgrade time.
so the previous owner ran it at low rpm and never used it and the soot plugged up the particulate filter. GENIUS. Nice score on that generator regardless.
You most likely can't run a generator at "low" rpm. It is either 1500 or 1800 rpm for 50 or 60Hz Running with no or light load at these rpm creates soot. That's a big diesel engine, it wants do work. At least 10% rated load and you have no problems
@@Fluxkompressor Depends on the genset and temperature. Wait until it gets cold and the "Cold Stacking" alarm keeps shutting off your unit because you're under 30% rated load. Sometimes, you have to work with the doors of the building open in the winter with a fan blowing on the thermostat just so the heaters keep running. Ended up with a 50kW, 100kW, then a 30kW genset on the same job depending on where we were in commissioning...
@@BainRacing134 I fix these things for the military and for airports. The T4 units aren't worth it for the reasons in this video which is why ITW Hobart don't even make them anymore. Like you said, if they're not being put under load and left at to run doing nothing they plug up. These T4 units are so bad my customers keep 20+ year old units which i get and tear down for engine rebuilds and generator rewinding. Costs a small fortune but over the long run, it's better than buying modern diesels.
I thought it ran out of urea. He just filled the urea tank and started it up. The previous owner probably didn't know about the urea tank just the diesel.
I did a lot of design work with CAN bus. Theoretically for most applications it does not need GND as its a differential twisted pair. However grounding can stop the common mode voltage causing the kit to throw a wobbler. Philips used to produce the best Phy on the market but that was back when Pontias was still a pilot.
Translation from Canadian: the buss is not transformer isolated so all the CMRR that you get comes from the differential inputs... and if the common mode noise is enough to clip either leg of the input of the differential input, you suddenly don't have a working input. Having the grounds tied together means that the signal lines follow more closely and the only noise to be cancelled out is that of the ground connection.
Years ago, the Matco guy that came to our shop wanted to upgrade his truck. He bought a brand new top of the line truck that had the new DEF system in it. Matco was pushing their reps into using the new DEF configured trucks, but allowing them to use older trucks if that’s all they had. His new truck was in the shop at least 6 of the 9 months, and they tried to tell him he wasn’t allowed to use his older truck that he still owned. He sold all of his Matco wares at deep discounts because he couldn’t stand to look at it and moved to Gearwrench. Joel was a great guy, Marine with a wife and kids, always nice to everyone, loved keeping his customers happy. Matco was not innocent in this story, but the troubles DEF brings literally ruins lives.
OMG! I just started a new job as the assistant director of maintenance at a brand new $30 million veterans home. Most of what we do is fill out warranty callback forms, the rest of my time I'm filling in impossible gaps in firewalls that the contractors left. Brand new, expensive equipment fails daily, and the lack of craftsmanship is just staggering...
" impossible gaps in firewalls that the contractors " --- that's on the Architect, not the field talent -- you said it yourself -- "impossible" saw one job where they spent 8x budget in ductseal bc an Engineer behind a computer had no idea of actual, proper, and accepted building methods. -- but it looked good on paper ...
and yet, for all their efforts, there still persists a way to hack the machine and to get it to perform its intended function. thank you! you've given me hope!
Glad I didn't sell my 100kw Perkins generator. There are minimal electrical components that monitor the engine . No DEF just a pipe out the wall . Not even glow plugs. Oil,diesel, coolant ,battery , START !!!
I have a sneaking suspicion that DEF system didn't remain installed more than a few minutes after this video ended.. Or, that's about as long as it should have lasted.
God knows how much tinkering you'd have to do to make the computer think that it has the DEF system working. If it disabled the generator once because of a DEF error, it'll do it again when the system isn't even there to talk back to the computer
You can remove the DEF system and it won't do nothing to fix the problem. Computer is still looking for the sensors in that system and will derate or not run at all. The system needs to be reprogrammed to work without those components. Which is not the easiest task.
Exactly my thoughts. If they want to play stupid games and turn a wonderfully designed and reliable mechanical system into an unservicable and disposable piece of junk then that is the only reasonable option.
he is not worng you can probably get the code for 2k its a lot but you wont have to deal with that shit anymore, they guys that sale then for bobcats and kobotas can probably do it
@ligarsystm Not disbanded. Restructured. Without government oversight, corporations will further own this country. We'll have companies putting shit in our food and don't have to disclose anything. Those labels on your food will be gone. Plenty of other examples. I drive for a living and I'm grateful I'm not sitting behind a bucket breathing black smoke because he didn't want to use a muffler.
@@ligarsystmif you want to put a catalytic converter on a 1950 Chevy they look at you like you are mad. “You are motivated by your actual effect on the world and not code compliance? I don’t Understand.”
or you can mix 2 Stroke Oil JASO FB and that diesel will run forever! I put 2SO in 50 litres for wel over 250k km (over 10 years of daily commute to work..) in a M47 BMW engine that currently has over 500k km. ZERO problems with anything that is either in the motor or connected to the motor i.e. exhaust system. Good luck with yours. Mine is doing well
The 'ol RB auction, where one man's junk can become another man's junk and usually for top dollar! And the only one getting paid either way is Ritchie Bros
Well done. Great video on the connecting to the CAN network using non-OEM equipment. It seems odd that a generator that could be used for emergency applications during power outages such as the ones seen in Asheville, NC USA could be limited in their functionality by DEF... If the EPA and other regulatory bodies believe we need to cut NOx output we need to think of alternative strategies as EGR and DEF systems seem to cause more waste than anything by severely lowering the life cycle of the equipment that uses it. New motors and vehicles are sold every day because of this exact issue.
Don't worry some government agencies are exempt from these exact EPA standards. 🙄 You may do better on Gov planet than equipment auction sites for "legally illegal emissions powered equipment" assuming they didn't have to destroy whatever item instead of surplusing such dangerous equipment with no emissions reduction! 😒
@@berryreading4809 That's the most F'd up part, when you see all the government vehicles that are exempt from the emissions they force us all to follow. Luckily Chevron Deference is dead, and with it the EPA loses a LOT of the authority it's been using to force all this BS on us.
Major manufacturers include abatement switches to bypass T4/iT4 emissions in emergency generator sets for life safety. Even older gens that aren’t draped in emissions equipment have abatement switches for all shutdown conditions, letting it run until it blows up, commonly referred to as “battle mode”
Awesome video, thanks! Isuzu 480V generator 45kW. Low-sulfur fuel caused suction control valve PWM-controlled solenoid piston to stick wide open and fuel rail pressure to go sky high, followed by rapid shutdown. Took one year to diagnose and fix. Isuzu service was terrific and told me all the secrets over the phone, once you get to the right person. If fuel sits in tank, must add injector lubricant to avoid stuck valves, injectors, or pump problems. After great support by Isuzu, it purrs like a kitten for 45 minutes once a month. They told me, you must run it once a week but who has time for that? Thankfully it is Tier 4 and no DEF. The other Isuzu has DEF and multiple computers which feels like an accident waiting to happen. However, service staff is great. Close friend of mine worked for Doosan (which he said was Korean) and he quit after a couple years. Cheers!!
SCV issues are pretty common among Denso HPFPs. Worth keeping in mind if you own a Toyota D-4D or other Japanese diesel, as most use Denso fuel systems.
Ave, you fuckin rock. Nothing stops you. You’re a damn genius. I don’t know what you do for a living but your customers are lucky when they get you. Thanks for the kick ass vijeos.
Oh look it’s a BFG - big fucking generator! Let’s hope the hive mind can shake out a Doosan greybeard or two for your contacts list because I’ve a feeling in my urea tank we’ll see the insides of the BFG more than the once
There are some guys up there that are selling DEF Delete kits for just such an application. Some folks are even installing them in Cancerfornia to use on ag well generators.
Commenting to bring attention to Uncle B's bi-ocular light sensors... 👁️ 👁️ He's a fart smeller so I'm sure he's searched for such a gremlin, but this on the off-chance he hasn't.
I was thinking along similar lines. If I had bought the damn thing, I’d be stuck with a useless bit of junk. He never ceases to amaze me with his knowledge.
I just want to say, you sir are an inspiration. A Troubleshooting machine. I’m a mostly residential, some commercial/industrial, and when I troubleshoot and teach guys to troubleshoot I first tell them something I heard from you in some vid long ago- always try the simplest things first. Don’t even use a tool until you have simply evaluated the operation of whatever ur looking at.. sometimes it’s an operator error and there is actually no problem at all! Anyway, you make me want to be better at just figuring a fix to a problem
And that is why it went cheap at the auction........because everyone else already knows its trouble. On the plus side. you could specialize in providing support for them, since nobody else does.
Many European semis don't have a def system due to superior engineering. While having higher hp and higher emissions standards than north America. Def systems destroy the reliability of diesel engines and are a lazy solution to emissions regulations
Yes indeed, there are far better and cheaper alternatives to this Insane DEF system, That have been used for decades IN UNDERGROUND MINES, where exhaust particulates are and have always been an issue not only for the operators or mine workers but also the engines efficiency and RELIABILITY, nothing worse than having a loader stuck in a tight drive where you can't even lift the engine Cowels if one of these DEF systems fails.
@@Porty1119 Exactly I ran Bio Diesel for over 9 years until the cost of making it outweighed its economical virtues, Never bought a drop of dino fuel the whole 9 years, worked even better on turbo diesels.
I just got a new GMC Duramax this summer. Love the truck, love the engine. I also know that I’ll be trading it in before the warranty is up because of cost of repairs on a modern diesel
@jeffhall768 I’m not gonna lie, I like the tech and comfort too. I’m a broken old ironworker, smooth ride, heated and cooled seats, and towing were my main concerns. I’ve also gotten well over 30 mpg running back roads around 45 mph.
@@billlawrence9594 oh I get it. Mine is a high country that I'm getting rid of and I'll miss the creature comforts but I'm still in my 30s so I don't mind working on stuff. I have a gx460 for the nice stuff lol. I'll miss the chevy though. It literally has everything.
@@billlawrence9594 also a tuned common rail 5.9 is the most fuel efficient HD truck you can find. I don't baby it at all and it sips fuel in comparison to the L5P with about the same power (the tune is for 425hp and the L5P is 445hp but who knows how accurate either is)
@@jeffhall768 I’ve taken an office job with steel fabrication company, I can help with layout and running to suppliers. Otherwise I’m using my experience from 30 years in the industry and turning it into a project manager role. I get to have a clean truck and I’m not hauling 1500 pounds of tools daily anymore. Not beating the shit out of myself and my truck has been nice so far. I still have a 98 stratos bass boat to work on and question my life choices
Ive been an electrician for 35 years and I think, how the f did you learn how to overcome that serial port interface connection? Perseverance is always the winner of any race.
Enginerds who drew the schematics and wrote the order specification for chinese manufacturers, enginerds who wrote the code and project managers from both the final product designer/producer and the contractors are all either working for a second sequential employer or some of the key figures among them are long dead due to certain well promoted infection. No one to give some answer to the client communication department living answering machines.
Hearing you explain emissions regulations and processes almost makes it not hurt as much. Please continue this path for the greater good of all mankind and our fragile overworked pieces of mind.
The timing of this is just lovely for me because I'm swapping out the head unit on my new old 2010 Camry trying to determine the correct pin out for the JBL canbus save you 30 to 80 smackeroos on a dadgum adapter
Generator mechanic here. The gatekeeping in this industry is ridiculous. Sometimes even authorized dealers like us get the runaround, but with a bit of dizznicking around we can get diagrams and manuals once we become a big enough pain in the ass. If ya ever want a cheat sheet you can't get, feel free to reach out, might be able to help.
the engines are still more reliable, just the electronics are utter garbage. Same will come to gasoline and propane generators. For Instance, latestBrand Chainsaws come with electronically controlled Carbs. Utterly ridiculous. Before anyone asks, the main argument is that there is no more adjustment of the Carburetor. Bonus point: Stihl saws that have been poorly started to often or ran very short consecutive times miss adjust the fancy carburetor so much that it won't run anymore. but don't worry the Dealership of your choice can reset the Carb with their diagnostic equipment.
Don't worry, GDI seems to be taking care of those reliable gas engines too. I'm shocked how many late model euros are stacked up at the Pick-a-Parts recently.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m for the clean air we’re trying to achieve but DEF systems are a maintenance nightmare. The first truck I had with a regen unit spent more time in the shop than on the road because the regen system fouled if you let the truck idle overnight which is a problem if you work in the northern winters like I did.
@@mblake0420 DEF is required by law. Manufacturers didn't add DEF until they were legally required to. Manufacturers don't make the law, they just abide by it. So blame the EPA and congress, blaming the manufacturers for following the law is dumb af.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049DEF is only there to reduce nitrous emissions, working alongside with the EGR. The DPF exhaust filters are separate and don't need any def to regenerate, they just need high temps to burn off soot.
Ironically Cummins is responsible for lobbying so that practically all modern diesel engines must use their patented DEF technology to meet emissions standards they specified to be the target for all manufactures. Meaning Cummins gets a shit ton of money from other manufacturers paying Cummins to integrate the def technology on their engines- because it’s practically the only way to meet the new emissions which again, Cummins purposely lobbied to make specifically impossible without their DEF system. The myth that Capitalism encourages innovation, creates positive competition and advances technology…yeah right
There is a guy on you tube who had to unlock one of those controllers to change the factory settings. They were behind a pin code that no one knew. It might be worth your time to find it.
I came from working for DMG Mori for the last 20 years. They used to understand the whole "service is a loss leader" mentality and somehow migrated to "every department is a potential revenue stream" mindset and it totally trashed relationships with smaller customers.
Since you're just north of Washington try calling Papé Material Handling in Lynden. I recall getting parts for Doosan when I worked there (down in Arlington).
They sell OBD2 connectors you can pin yourself, since you got the pins figured out you can cut off that deutsch connector and re-pin it into OBD2. Or just forget about it until it breaks again.
The Tier 4 generators are basically useless unless you are running them at full load, you end up plugging the DPF or not getting hot enough for the SCR to cook. Total joke.
Megajunk! I can almost guarantee that thing used to have a big dirty Kiewit Sticker on the side. It sounds like their customer service gave you the same treatmet as they did for the original customers who purchased a fleet of them.
Perhaps you can do a def system delete? Probably requires ecu recoding and all kinds of fun stuff, but it might be worth looking into. Not reason a lone man on his farm should have to comply with all that emmisions bull crap. Not sure if Canada has farm exemptions (probably not). I wonder why China and India don't have to comply with all that crap when they're the largest polluters? Probably rhetorical. Anyway, good job sorting it out.
Italy has sold out a lot of their industries. Take for example their high-end fashion brands, now have sweatshop labor shipped over from Wuhan. It's no wonder they were the second hotspot for the outbreak of cerveza sickness
There are many common reasons for this: 1. The bean counters want customers to pay a service call every time there is a fault 2. The engineers didn't have time to program in all codes 3. There is not enough memory to store plaintext of all fault codes. Most likely all three are true.
These are the videos that prove the hype is real. 8 minutes of absolute strong work! You deserve another 1.5 million subscribers, like tomorrow. Thanks for winning the battles some of us don't even know exist.
Ah the good ol' AdBlue stuff, the reason most diesel engines break down, because the stuff crystallises out and clogs everything up killing an engine through "comptuer sez no!" even though there's nothing mechanically wrong, just that the piss isn't squirting from the hole up the exhaust...
I have a works van that's currently been back to the workshop 4 times already with the same fault. So many parts changed due to their failure. Too much Chineseium in the adblue system. Should have gone petrol.
I recently retired from running a large datacenter which had six Volvo generators which were mistakenly bought with DEF systems. These systems were the bane of my existence, constantly faulting out for no reasons and preventing my generators from running. We could never get decent knowledgeable service on them from anyone. It was just a constant blame game, with the buck being passed like a hot potato. I'm convinced DEF systems are just sold to up service margins.
put some resistors in to the sensors and couple lighbulbs to simulate loads on the def and dpf system, will bypass it, no code issues, and a generator that runs for much longer much happier, may need a straight pipe exhaust but thats perfect for a farm
We bought at little truck mounted "Ferrari" crane that came with no documentation for the cable winch, which has no electrical stop (I forget the term) to keep you from pulling the cable in too far, but has some kind of mechanical device on the end. I couldn't let it go out in the wild without knowing how it worked. The dealer was no help, the manufacturer didn't even respond. I found in a round about way who actually made it and shot them an email. The response I got was essentially "I didn't tell you this, we definitely don't make that for them "wink wink", but it binds the cable and puts a load on to stop the winch" Class act that fella.
Please Brother I beg you from Michigan bring the copper upgrade back! We need bling!! If nothing else offer it to the early supporters. Please Mr. AVE DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!😊
Now you can buy every code clapped Megagen and corner the generator market because you're the only one in the world that's figured out how to repair them.
I'm keeping my 38 year old generator. Only electronics are in the governor, a proper Woodward unit. Mechanical injection which also has a mechanical governor so the RPM is super stable. The spinning thing is a Lima MAC so it fights in a much heavier class than the 12 kW nameplate riveted to the shell.
I had forgotten all about this channel. I subscribed awhile ago but haven't seen anything come through the till just now. This guy has a talent for jibber-jabbing if that's even a word.
If ownership is forbidden, then piracy is justified.
Semi-online devices and FOSS software is the new ownership
This is nonsense logic. It's just a matter of time before brand(s) figure out it's bad business not to let consumers repair the products they own and start making repairable products again. Don't buy from companies that make things hard/impossible to repair.
Is purchase does not equal ownership piracy does not equal theft
Bingo
Capitalism poisoning itself into communism.
All the reliability of Italian electronics, married with the rugged dependability of an unserviceable Korean motor.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
At least it will sit quietly in style 😂
I hate Italian equipment. We had a bunch of Gambinis in our paper plant. Most unserviceable shit ever.
Don’t forget the Bosch direct injection system
Is that the north korean type, shipped underground to the southern neighbor?
It seems wrong to have a busted generator video without the dewclaw.
Did something happen to him?
@@lucassvedlund3851 Yes... We lost him.
He got married and/or had a kid. (I can't recall which one stole him) 😅
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE gawd damn it all my rowdy friends are settling down
Dew-CLAWWW!!!
@@shaun.h.barlow If I recall, the ACTUAL issue in this case, was they moved to a more accommodating location, which unfortunately put him well outside the convenience range.
Unfortunate, but understandable. 😕
I don't think he's _prohibitively_ far away, like... still in Canaderp, so they can at least still arrange play dates!
Never underestimate the power of a multi meter, o scope and a foolish man with time on his hands.
The problem with systems like this is that they are all built from components (i.e. the Doosan engine, the generator, the PLC control panel, etc), each of which has undocumented fault codes, that the system integrator doesn't know much about. So of course they are of no help. This kind of stuff is put together using the minimum signalling required to get it to operate, and then sent out the door. Thus, when something breaks, you are not actually doing repair, you are doing the missing engineering.
Is that the norm these days? A couple of three decades ago I worked for a small systems integration house in Arizona. We had to document EVERYTHING for EVERY component of EVERY system we sold.
Each system came with an “operating manual” that comprised several banker boxes full of binders (also copies on a small box of floppies which should tell you how long ago this was). One entire binder was just the index. If the manual didn’t get you back up and running, you called us. I fielded calls from a company that had bought a system from us twelve years earlier (before I joined the company). One of our software engineers wrote them a patch because a vendor had stopped making a component and the replacement spoke a slightly different dialect of digital. System back in service before suppertime.
But then, our company was owned by a German immigrant, not an Italian. I don’t know if that had anything to do with it.
This Def system sounds infinitely (deleterious) deleteble, under your BC ingenuity
(snippy, snip, snip).
This is spot on! The most hilarious part is when it doesent even pass commissioning a you work for the integretor and make this realization in the field. Nothing 12-16 hour days in front of the computer and running up and down the stairs to try to get a signal can't fix.
"each of which has undocumented fault codes"
No, no no no.
if you buy a PLC then you get the documentation down the the lowest level.
These things are built intentionally in a way that nobody but the manufacturer can service them normally and if you do not have a support-contract then you are out of luck,.
Not only undocumented codes but unhandled errors and states where engine rev limiter not applied and gearbox starts to use brakes to limit speed. Then manufacturer says your fault, you breaked gearbox etc
As a heavy equipment field tech, everything I just witnessed made complete sense. This is a case study that could be utilized to explain to the wife's and girlfriends as to why you haven't text them back for 6 hours.
What time you gonna be home? Dunno, might be in an hour, but 50% of the time, all the time, next week
That pc to dmm to sillyscope setup made me have a ptsd flashback
I’m a Doosan forklift dealer and their idea of training hilarious.
These days if you have a running issue and it has an engine with DEF. It’s probably the DEF system.
Funny seeing you here, although maybe it shouldn't be.
Someone mentions a: "sore dick" then somehow you show up... Coincidence? Methinks not!
Same with Komatsu...always throwing a code for something.
The small diesel dpfs and def are absolutely terrible.
And i thought he was a Toyota guy!
Disposable 120k diesel generator. Definitely a wtf moment.
Yep. Don’t worry it’s got DEF so it’s good for the environment 😂
The company that bought it brand new just wrote it off as a tax loss... And only 300h. Wow. 👍🏻🇬🇧
@@fredfred2363 Its down right comical. We have a 1970's genset at work that's powered by a Deutz V12 disel ship engine that has more than 7000 hours on it. The old girl belches black smoke like its 1870 London but by God she refuses to give up :D
Write-off or donate and say it was per 501c..............the scamerican way
Props to our friends in Hindustan willing to preach the truth.
He allready said too much ! =]
Now if only they'd stop looting all our halloween candy... and porchlights.
Thats a long way to go for cheap sugar and Chinese LV lights...
One of my customers is still running a 1970s Onan with the International 401v8. Tune up parts from Onan are $100 a pop. No one shows any aftermarket options. 2 days of digging, and the cap and rotor and condenser are from a 1960 Studebaker Champ and the points are 1960s VW beetle. Whaddya know, it runs great now. Old stuff was made to be repaired and you can still fix them.
I'd still rather have electronic ignition than points, we don't need to go all the way back to the stone age.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 right up until you find your electronic ignition needs a 2n3055 power transistor which hasn't been made for 10 years or so and is only available as a guaranteed used part (the supplier guarantees it has been used before)
Meanwhile there isn't a part on my 1964 split window VW bus I cannot buy, not one of which is from VW!
@@andrewallen9993 That's way more about having equipment that's common vs uncommon. Your VW has an aftermarket, because people modify and rebuild them, if it was electronic ignition you'd be able to get the parts just as easy. That's why if you want something to be fixable for a long time you go with something that has a strong aftermarket or very committed manufacturer support.
@@andrewallen9993 based
@@andrewallen9993 You are looking at the wrong places then, I can get brand new NOS 2N3055s and old used ones too, also power transistors don't age, they fail when you run them out of specs.
Just 3 weeks ago I found a destroyed german receiver with 4 2n3055s on the back, all good.
As a service engineer, it warms my heart to know that I am a loss leader for my mob :o)
Your doing it wrong, private off the clock jobs are where you make your real money 🤑
The owner of the largest material handling equipment dealer on the west cost once said "I wouldn't even have a service department if I didn't have to." In the heavy equipment industry, you make money on parts sales and rentals, and that's no big secret. They don't care about how skilled you are. The only thing they want out of you (no matter what bullshit gaslighting lines they feed you) is a high parts sales sheet. That is unless it's a rental. Then they want it done as fast as possible with as few parts used as possible. If you want your skills appreciated, get the hell out of the field service/dealership world.
Also a service tech with a wage that often feels like a loss leader
And people made a big deal about the plastic garbage bags. This era is truly the disposable generation.
indeed. Old farm tractors still run but new ones are 10y lifespan then nobody knows if there are spare parts
...are the scary trash bags in the room with us right now?
It's all about $$ - planned obsolescence. Why make something repairable and last 50 years anymore? Make it last 10 years tops so it's out of warranty and time to buy again.
And paper straws wrapped in plastic or provided with a plastic cup. All green washing and market manipulation. Buy the paper straw companies and then mandate paper straws.
@@zonkedmc They're definitely in the government!
I laughed so hard when I saw the wiring and meter. When a job goes down a dark path of time and lessons, where each success brings hope to only be met with another failure. From one repair man to another, this victory was felt wholeheartedly.
Have a friend that some times has to go to a big manufacturer. Hacks and reprograms factory new generators that are heading out into the bush, right in the parking lot of the manufacturer. They are not allowed to sell equipment without all the crap, so he goes there and fixes it before they are shipped out.
I work in process controls and automation. Worked for “Good” tire manufacturer and they have many generators of which many of them need configured and connected to work with plant processes for hot start and also for increasing voltage preload transfer so that our equipment loads up the generator without dipping the voltage. We wipe out the voltage regulator circuit and integrate our own analog control circuit and use a PID and inputs from certain VFDs to control the voltage step up/down to prevent dips/surges. I can tell you that a lot of these diesel gensets can almost run exclusively from a PLC if you have a CAN communication configuration.
Based on what you've wrote, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying you can cook up something for Uncle B if the price is right? 😊
Analog beats digital, the rest is software wich says go or no go. But you make it sound simple....I think you are a small god in your knowing of the matter 😉
Ohh now that's sweet. SCADA and then you harden the "weak" parts! Your reflash firmware, I take it? Or are the upgrades "transparent"? I hoped you worked there more than a great year
The proper procedure is to get it purring just the once. Data log the outputs from all sensors on the... extraneous systems, and then whip up some circuitry that happens to always provide those "everything is A OK here" signals and wire that in. Then if those extraneous systems happen to, say, accidentally fall off on a windy day, you're good!
Ahhhh the old H. Simpson “everything’s ok alarm” used it once or thrice myself!
That's never gonna happen one off. You would have to get BALLS deep into CAN bus hacking and making a emulator fir the EAT ECM. And even at that, the probability you produce something in the realm of as 'reliable' as a working DEF system is very very slim. It's not just a matter of emulating NOx differential and temps. There is an entire map of expected values at given variables.
Easy to say, harder to implement, some sensors are running control loops. Also the computer expects the signal to change when it strts or idles and normalize under load, if it stays constant, you will get errors. In general, not just for DEF systems.
Like in other cases at startup the confuser runs the flaps from end to end, expecting end stop signals, ramps fans up to max speed and check rpm, you need to understand the system to know which siglals to probe and how to use them to modulate your tricked signal.
If i would get a job like this. I would try to have a can controller send the messages that the exhaust ecu sends. Because this is 'heavy duty', it would be the j1939 protocol used for the exhaust system. With the time that i would put in it, it wouldn't be profitable untill you want to do about 5 systems to spread the cost of development (depending on the specific machinery and what the possible margin is).
If you're on a farm, you could just send the Bosch ECU to a specialist that reprograms it to work without DEF. Just make sure he knows what he's doing, cause there are many amateurs that will cause damage to your engine in the long run.
Made in Italy was the first warning.
🤌 Warning-a, Don't-a Put-a Your Hand Here-a 🤌
fix it again tony!
Ferrari, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Maseratti, Lamborghini (cars)… *Renowned* for reliability.
The only good thing they export is organic non gmhoe pasta
@@MorbeynYep, all them brands known to reliably rapidly self-disassemble if not deliberately disassembled and reassembled with the replacement of several dozen thousand doll hairs worth of parts in between.
As for replacement parts… at least uncle Bumblefuck’s generator set doesn’t have hand-hammered body panels.
I saw what was called a demotivational poster. It showed a large body of water with the bow of a ship sticking out of it. Underneath was written: "THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF YOUR LIFE COULD BE JUST TO SERVE AS A WARNING TO OTHERS"
I couldn't hope for a greater purpose, honestly.
I still have that poster 'cuz its a classic. :D
One of those out-door ruggedised oscilloscopes. I'm jealous.
thos're some damn fine knobs on that scope too. them ain't stock lol
@@jasoncox7244 It's come to something when you find yourself on t'internet admiring other people's knobs...
What phukkin oscilloscope? I don't see an oscilloscope, I see a voltmeter
This is why I love Edison Motors. They are a bunch of Canadians that got fed up with the state of modern companies, specifically Tesla, and decided to build their own diesel/electric semi truck. They are completely about an owners right to repair, they provide all codes, part numbers, and use off the shelf parts you can find virtually anywhere. We need better right to repair laws in North America.
I think that goes for world wide too
Did you buy one of the three trucks that they've built?
I understand why people like them, but if you come from an OE automotive background you understand what complete clowns they are. They're getting nowhere they never will.
@@otm646 I'm OE automotive and I don't think they're clowns. I love the product and the ethos.
Although you're probably right that they aren't going very far, very fast. It's unlikely they'll ever become a big player. I hope they get more orders than they have the capacity to facilitate indefinitely, though.
Then again. OE automotive is so arrogant like that, that Tesla came out of nowhere and took a huge chunk of the market. BYD too. OE said EV couldn't and wouldn't happen. Tesla did it anyway (before Elon). Now the long standing manufacturers are racing to catch up. And because the EV only manufacturers don't have the inertia of "we've been doing this a hundred years and we'll keep doing it because it ain't broken" 99% of the innovation comes from EV only start ups and when you drive one, then drive a legacy auto equivalent it's obvious that the EV is a blank sheet of paper "how to make the best product", and the legacy version is "why are they doing this with an EV?! EV can be better than this!"... Although, without the long standing experience the EV only brands do make some mistakes too.
That was almost insightful.
Rant: Why does my dryer need wifi and an app?
tbf i actually appreciate that laundry machines can notify me when they're done even if i'm not within earshot of them. that's handy.
My in laws have an electric trashcan. 🤦♂️
@m1stertim man has never even heard of a clock
@@Bobo-ox7fj My cousin asked for a $430 toaster with a touchscreen on it for her wedding...
And it only does two slices!
I didn't buy it for her.
Same goes for my cats Water Bowl, not a joke they put Wifi in a fucking water bowl. 🤦
We're fighting for Right to Repair on the medical side too. There are no laws requiring any sort of support after sale for medical equipment. Everything seems to be moving to OEM only repairs / flat rate repairs, or complete replacement for minor malfunctions...
Same in the science field. And any parts you can get are 10-20 times the price you would expect.
$300 for a new set of viton o-rings, but as soon as we got them we had them measured and we now get spare sets for $10 locally.
Sizes and part numbers are written down in the back cover of the manuals for future reference.
Such a waste of everything. It's terrible.
"Sir, if first I can have you power the unit off and then back on...
Is the unit back online now?"
- 1st line of defense for customer service
Also, they probably have a "proprietary" connector that converts the standardized connector into their own and call it J1984 or some shit. Geeeeeeeeeezzzz.
When you said Richie brothers auction, Dieselcreek popped out from under a rock 😀
And around the corner is Clint from C&C Equipment. 😅
And in the distance you could hear an auto car winding up the drive!
Oh dear - this was no RB "new". there is a reason for low hours
You can slow him down but you can't F him over🤣
Lord knows they'll never stop tryin'
Unrelated :I work at a Cat plant. They had to drop power to rewire some feeders. When power come back up it wiped out the program for the allen bradley system. Guess what that controls ? All the supply and exhaust air for the building and all the glycol heating pumps. They had to go to the attic to find a Allen bradley computer from 1977 to reboot system. It had vacuum tubes in it. Lmao .That happened oct 2024
Jesus. They still running a PLC 1 or 2?!?!?!
Can't complain about the cards for those units though, nice, big, through hole components. Easy to repair, unlike the modern ROHS surface mount shit.
You'd think companies would realized it's in their best interest to quit penny pinching and replace old computers like that now, because at some point they will die and not only will nobody will know anything about how it works, but unplanned downtime and emergency pay will cost a heck of a lot more than a short planned upgrade time.
so the previous owner ran it at low rpm and never used it and the soot plugged up the particulate filter. GENIUS.
Nice score on that generator regardless.
You most likely can't run a generator at "low" rpm. It is either 1500 or 1800 rpm for 50 or 60Hz
Running with no or light load at these rpm creates soot. That's a big diesel engine, it wants do work. At least 10% rated load and you have no problems
@@Fluxkompressor Depends on the genset and temperature. Wait until it gets cold and the "Cold Stacking" alarm keeps shutting off your unit because you're under 30% rated load. Sometimes, you have to work with the doors of the building open in the winter with a fan blowing on the thermostat just so the heaters keep running.
Ended up with a 50kW, 100kW, then a 30kW genset on the same job depending on where we were in commissioning...
@@BainRacing134 I fix these things for the military and for airports. The T4 units aren't worth it for the reasons in this video which is why ITW Hobart don't even make them anymore. Like you said, if they're not being put under load and left at to run doing nothing they plug up. These T4 units are so bad my customers keep 20+ year old units which i get and tear down for engine rebuilds and generator rewinding. Costs a small fortune but over the long run, it's better than buying modern diesels.
I thought it ran out of urea. He just filled the urea tank and started it up. The previous owner probably didn't know about the urea tank just the diesel.
Maybe the prior owner pissed in the DEF tank? @@Songer80
I did a lot of design work with CAN bus. Theoretically for most applications it does not need GND as its a differential twisted pair. However grounding can stop the common mode voltage causing the kit to throw a wobbler. Philips used to produce the best Phy on the market but that was back when Pontias was still a pilot.
Translation from Canadian: the buss is not transformer isolated so all the CMRR that you get comes from the differential inputs... and if the common mode noise is enough to clip either leg of the input of the differential input, you suddenly don't have a working input. Having the grounds tied together means that the signal lines follow more closely and the only noise to be cancelled out is that of the ground connection.
Years ago, the Matco guy that came to our shop wanted to upgrade his truck. He bought a brand new top of the line truck that had the new DEF system in it. Matco was pushing their reps into using the new DEF configured trucks, but allowing them to use older trucks if that’s all they had. His new truck was in the shop at least 6 of the 9 months, and they tried to tell him he wasn’t allowed to use his older truck that he still owned. He sold all of his Matco wares at deep discounts because he couldn’t stand to look at it and moved to Gearwrench. Joel was a great guy, Marine with a wife and kids, always nice to everyone, loved keeping his customers happy. Matco was not innocent in this story, but the troubles DEF brings literally ruins lives.
OMG! I just started a new job as the assistant director of maintenance at a brand new $30 million veterans home. Most of what we do is fill out warranty callback forms, the rest of my time I'm filling in impossible gaps in firewalls that the contractors left. Brand new, expensive equipment fails daily, and the lack of craftsmanship is just staggering...
" impossible gaps in firewalls that the contractors " ---
that's on the Architect, not the field talent -- you said it yourself -- "impossible"
saw one job where they spent 8x budget in ductseal bc an Engineer behind a computer had no idea of actual, proper, and accepted building methods.
-- but it looked good on paper ...
and yet, for all their efforts, there still persists a way to hack the machine and to get it to perform its intended function. thank you! you've given me hope!
Glad I didn't sell my 100kw Perkins generator.
There are minimal electrical components that monitor the engine .
No DEF just a pipe out the wall .
Not even glow plugs.
Oil,diesel, coolant ,battery , START !!!
We've got a 150kW Onan-Komatsu(?) DVE genset that's the same way. It has an alternator and a starter.
I have a sneaking suspicion that DEF system didn't remain installed more than a few minutes after this video ended.. Or, that's about as long as it should have lasted.
God knows how much tinkering you'd have to do to make the computer think that it has the DEF system working. If it disabled the generator once because of a DEF error, it'll do it again when the system isn't even there to talk back to the computer
You can remove the DEF system and it won't do nothing to fix the problem. Computer is still looking for the sensors in that system and will derate or not run at all. The system needs to be reprogrammed to work without those components. Which is not the easiest task.
@@sdvten Nah, WAY easier to spoof the sensors than reprogram some black box.
@@sdvten I am sure a delete tune was easier to find then the OEM maintenance manuals.
@sdvten just sniff packets during smooth running and broadcast them forever - even while the damn thing is shut down, why not?
Saving the planet one plastic DEF jug at a time...
Next trick, map the signal output from the def sensor and rig a suitable liar to talk to the confuser. No def, no limp modes.
And show us how to do it when you do!
Maybe an Arduino vs. Evil genset mod required?
Exactly my thoughts. If they want to play stupid games and turn a wonderfully designed and reliable mechanical system into an unservicable and disposable piece of junk then that is the only reasonable option.
You are going to run into a lot more things to "trick" than just one sensor.
This. Exactly. 100%
"You wouldn't download a select fire glock 19"
*hastily throws tarp over 3D printer*
"Ofcourse not" I says
I think you need to find an Eastern European guy to delete the emission system. Then you can roll coal with the gen set!
Here is the sates the EPA needs to be disbanded. They think they are gods. :(
he is not worng
you can probably get the code for 2k its a lot but you wont have to deal with that shit anymore, they guys that sale then for bobcats and kobotas can probably do it
@ligarsystm Not disbanded. Restructured. Without government oversight, corporations will further own this country. We'll have companies putting shit in our food and don't have to disclose anything. Those labels on your food will be gone. Plenty of other examples. I drive for a living and I'm grateful I'm not sitting behind a bucket breathing black smoke because he didn't want to use a muffler.
@@ligarsystmif you want to put a catalytic converter on a 1950 Chevy they look at you like you are mad.
“You are motivated by your actual effect on the world and not code compliance? I don’t Understand.”
or you can mix 2 Stroke Oil JASO FB and that diesel will run forever!
I put 2SO in 50 litres for wel over 250k km (over 10 years of daily commute to work..) in a M47 BMW engine that currently has over 500k km. ZERO problems with anything that is either in the motor or connected to the motor i.e. exhaust system.
Good luck with yours. Mine is doing well
The 'ol RB auction, where one man's junk can become another man's junk and usually for top dollar!
And the only one getting paid either way is Ritchie Bros
The abbreviation on the fuses tells you all you need to know about the manufacturers attitude!!!
we now have an inkling why uncle hasnt been doing tool goodness vids..the poor fellas been in genny hell.
hang in there hoss!
Well done. Great video on the connecting to the CAN network using non-OEM equipment.
It seems odd that a generator that could be used for emergency applications during power outages such as the ones seen in Asheville, NC USA could be limited in their functionality by DEF... If the EPA and other regulatory bodies believe we need to cut NOx output we need to think of alternative strategies as EGR and DEF systems seem to cause more waste than anything by severely lowering the life cycle of the equipment that uses it. New motors and vehicles are sold every day because of this exact issue.
DEF = Diesel Exhaust Fuckery
Don't worry some government agencies are exempt from these exact EPA standards. 🙄 You may do better on Gov planet than equipment auction sites for "legally illegal emissions powered equipment" assuming they didn't have to destroy whatever item instead of surplusing such dangerous equipment with no emissions reduction! 😒
@@berryreading4809 That's the most F'd up part, when you see all the government vehicles that are exempt from the emissions they force us all to follow. Luckily Chevron Deference is dead, and with it the EPA loses a LOT of the authority it's been using to force all this BS on us.
Major manufacturers include abatement switches to bypass T4/iT4 emissions in emergency generator sets for life safety. Even older gens that aren’t draped in emissions equipment have abatement switches for all shutdown conditions, letting it run until it blows up, commonly referred to as “battle mode”
@@rushbnostopp We spec our multiquit 4 banger turbodiesel generators this way and with dial a phase on the screen.
Love hearing your rants of wisdom. These are the videos that keep me coming back.
Awesome video, thanks! Isuzu 480V generator 45kW. Low-sulfur fuel caused suction control valve PWM-controlled solenoid piston to stick wide open and fuel rail pressure to go sky high, followed by rapid shutdown. Took one year to diagnose and fix. Isuzu service was terrific and told me all the secrets over the phone, once you get to the right person. If fuel sits in tank, must add injector lubricant to avoid stuck valves, injectors, or pump problems. After great support by Isuzu, it purrs like a kitten for 45 minutes once a month. They told me, you must run it once a week but who has time for that? Thankfully it is Tier 4 and no DEF. The other Isuzu has DEF and multiple computers which feels like an accident waiting to happen. However, service staff is great. Close friend of mine worked for Doosan (which he said was Korean) and he quit after a couple years. Cheers!!
SCV issues are pretty common among Denso HPFPs. Worth keeping in mind if you own a Toyota D-4D or other Japanese diesel, as most use Denso fuel systems.
Ave, you fuckin rock. Nothing stops you. You’re a damn genius. I don’t know what you do for a living but your customers are lucky when they get you. Thanks for the kick ass vijeos.
Oh look it’s a BFG - big fucking generator! Let’s hope the hive mind can shake out a Doosan greybeard or two for your contacts list because I’ve a feeling in my urea tank we’ll see the insides of the BFG more than the once
There are some guys up there that are selling DEF Delete kits for just such an application. Some folks are even installing them in Cancerfornia to use on ag well generators.
Commenting to bring attention to Uncle B's bi-ocular light sensors... 👁️ 👁️
He's a fart smeller so I'm sure he's searched for such a gremlin, but this on the off-chance he hasn't.
You are the perfect person for this repair.
Low key genius.
Much ❤ Love
🌏🌎🌍☯️⚡️
Terra 🌞 Pax !
I was thinking along similar lines. If I had bought the damn thing, I’d be stuck with a useless bit of junk.
He never ceases to amaze me with his knowledge.
@ same here. I’d love to see how he fixed the code to remove the spyware… that bit is way outta my wheelhouse.
I just want to say, you sir are an inspiration. A Troubleshooting machine. I’m a mostly residential, some commercial/industrial, and when I troubleshoot and teach guys to troubleshoot I first tell them something I heard from you in some vid long ago- always try the simplest things first. Don’t even use a tool until you have simply evaluated the operation of whatever ur looking at.. sometimes it’s an operator error and there is actually no problem at all! Anyway, you make me want to be better at just figuring a fix to a problem
The power and ingenuity of a man on a mission. Nothing can stop him!
And that is why it went cheap at the auction........because everyone else already knows its trouble. On the plus side. you could specialize in providing support for them, since nobody else does.
Great troubleshooting! Saved it. Thanks for sharing!
I kept hearing 'DEF system' as 'death system', but it works either way.
Nice - I'm stealing that! Even made my wife laugh.
@@daveh4106 Always glad to make someone's day better!
Dude you absolutely need you're own TV show lol. The commentary had me in tears 😅
Many European semis don't have a def system due to superior engineering. While having higher hp and higher emissions standards than north America. Def systems destroy the reliability of diesel engines and are a lazy solution to emissions regulations
Yes indeed, there are far better and cheaper alternatives to this Insane DEF system, That have been used for decades IN UNDERGROUND MINES, where exhaust particulates are and have always been an issue not only for the operators or mine workers but also the engines efficiency and RELIABILITY, nothing worse than having a loader stuck in a tight drive where you can't even lift the engine Cowels if one of these DEF systems fails.
@@FladFlidington IDI engines, biodiesel, and water exhaust scrubbers work nicely.
@@Porty1119 Exactly I ran Bio Diesel for over 9 years until the cost of making it outweighed its economical virtues, Never bought a drop of dino fuel the whole 9 years, worked even better on turbo diesels.
My buddy drives tractor trailers. He always happy when he gets a rig with the Def system deleted, bypassed. No headaches and no Cat piss.
He said "Wrath of Khan Air" ! All his sayings need to be transcribed into a damn database. Priceless gems
There was an old word doc or Google doc somewhere some time ago - no idea if it’s still out there but $69 bucks says it’s not kept up to date.
And the Sandpebbles reference.
There is a database. Google aveisms
I just got a new GMC Duramax this summer. Love the truck, love the engine. I also know that I’ll be trading it in before the warranty is up because of cost of repairs on a modern diesel
This is why I bought an 06 Cummins recently and am selling my 2020 Duramax 😂😂😂
@jeffhall768 I’m not gonna lie, I like the tech and comfort too. I’m a broken old ironworker, smooth ride, heated and cooled seats, and towing were my main concerns. I’ve also gotten well over 30 mpg running back roads around 45 mph.
@@billlawrence9594 oh I get it. Mine is a high country that I'm getting rid of and I'll miss the creature comforts but I'm still in my 30s so I don't mind working on stuff. I have a gx460 for the nice stuff lol. I'll miss the chevy though. It literally has everything.
@@billlawrence9594 also a tuned common rail 5.9 is the most fuel efficient HD truck you can find. I don't baby it at all and it sips fuel in comparison to the L5P with about the same power (the tune is for 425hp and the L5P is 445hp but who knows how accurate either is)
@@jeffhall768 I’ve taken an office job with steel fabrication company, I can help with layout and running to suppliers. Otherwise I’m using my experience from 30 years in the industry and turning it into a project manager role.
I get to have a clean truck and I’m not hauling 1500 pounds of tools daily anymore. Not beating the shit out of myself and my truck has been nice so far. I still have a 98 stratos bass boat to work on and question my life choices
Ive been an electrician for 35 years and I think, how the f did you learn how to overcome that serial port interface connection? Perseverance is always the winner of any race.
Enginerds who drew the schematics and wrote the order specification for chinese manufacturers, enginerds who wrote the code and project managers from both the final product designer/producer and the contractors are all either working for a second sequential employer or some of the key figures among them are long dead due to certain well promoted infection. No one to give some answer to the client communication department living answering machines.
The circuit protection devices were trying to tell you all you needed to know....
"FU" !
Ave you never cease to amaze me how confused you can get with a confuser , great vid as always 👍
Hearing you explain emissions regulations and processes almost makes it not hurt as much. Please continue this path for the greater good of all mankind and our fragile overworked pieces of mind.
The timing of this is just lovely for me because I'm swapping out the head unit on my new old 2010 Camry trying to determine the correct pin out for the JBL canbus save you 30 to 80 smackeroos on a dadgum adapter
Generator mechanic here. The gatekeeping in this industry is ridiculous. Sometimes even authorized dealers like us get the runaround, but with a bit of dizznicking around we can get diagrams and manuals once we become a big enough pain in the ass. If ya ever want a cheat sheet you can't get, feel free to reach out, might be able to help.
Isn't it ironic that the traditionally "more reliable" diesel engines are now actually less reliable than their gas/propane/NG counterparts?
the engines are still more reliable, just the electronics are utter garbage. Same will come to gasoline and propane generators.
For Instance, latestBrand Chainsaws come with electronically controlled Carbs. Utterly ridiculous. Before anyone asks, the main argument is that there is no more adjustment of the Carburetor. Bonus point: Stihl saws that have been poorly started to often or ran very short consecutive times miss adjust the fancy carburetor so much that it won't run anymore. but don't worry the Dealership of your choice can reset the Carb with their diagnostic equipment.
Don't worry, GDI seems to be taking care of those reliable gas engines too. I'm shocked how many late model euros are stacked up at the Pick-a-Parts recently.
@@idontknow31212 Honda has a PGM-FI eu7000is 6500 watts inverter generator
EPA just needs time to "catch up" on making things unreliable. Have you seen the now mandated CO sensors on portable and open frame home generators?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m for the clean air we’re trying to achieve but DEF systems are a maintenance nightmare. The first truck I had with a regen unit spent more time in the shop than on the road because the regen system fouled if you let the truck idle overnight which is a problem if you work in the northern winters like I did.
DEF isn't supposed to clean the exhaust, that's an unintentional side-effect.
@@Bobo-ox7fj Uh what? That's the only reason they are on engines lol.
@bobbygetsbanned6049 No its to cost you a fortune, has nothing to do with the environment. It's about lining the dealers pockets with your linings
@@mblake0420 DEF is required by law. Manufacturers didn't add DEF until they were legally required to. Manufacturers don't make the law, they just abide by it. So blame the EPA and congress, blaming the manufacturers for following the law is dumb af.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049DEF is only there to reduce nitrous emissions, working alongside with the EGR. The DPF exhaust filters are separate and don't need any def to regenerate, they just need high temps to burn off soot.
That's why loved early Cummins with couple sensors and that's it.
Early Cummins sensor? Unless you meant the low oil pressure shut down. Big Cam don't need no sensor
Two wire switches
Ironically Cummins is responsible for lobbying so that practically all modern diesel engines must use their patented DEF technology to meet emissions standards they specified to be the target for all manufactures.
Meaning Cummins gets a shit ton of money from other manufacturers paying Cummins to integrate the def technology on their engines- because it’s practically the only way to meet the new emissions which again, Cummins purposely lobbied to make specifically impossible without their DEF system.
The myth that Capitalism encourages innovation, creates positive competition and advances technology…yeah right
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There is a guy on you tube who had to unlock one of those controllers to change the factory settings.
They were behind a pin code that no one knew.
It might be worth your time to find it.
It was on "buy it fix it"s channel about 7 months ago. He reverse engineered the firmware to reset the pin code
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i haven't seen your videos in a few years now and they randomly popped back up in my feed my ears are blessed once again glad to see ya still kickin
When the scope and the multimeter are out it's time to start drafting the "No Repair" invoice.
I came from working for DMG Mori for the last 20 years. They used to understand the whole "service is a loss leader" mentality and somehow migrated to "every department is a potential revenue stream" mindset and it totally trashed relationships with smaller customers.
Since you're just north of Washington try calling Papé Material Handling in Lynden. I recall getting parts for Doosan when I worked there (down in Arlington).
They sell OBD2 connectors you can pin yourself, since you got the pins figured out you can cut off that deutsch connector and re-pin it into OBD2. Or just forget about it until it breaks again.
The Tier 4 generators are basically useless unless you are running them at full load, you end up plugging the DPF or not getting hot enough for the SCR to cook. Total joke.
Well if you gotta get something hotter, get some nichrome and a high temp insulator and well, you got plenty of electricity to run it on...
@@big0bad0bradexhaust gas temp has to be above 900F for the correct reactions to take place
Same thing with new semi's in -40⁰ winters. Stuck in limp mode, unable to generate the heat to regen, to do a regen to fix the problem. Engineers smh
Yep don't exercise them without a load.
@@Pippy1 Nichrome 70 goes up to 2280F
Megajunk! I can almost guarantee that thing used to have a big dirty Kiewit Sticker on the side. It sounds like their customer service gave you the same treatmet as they did for the original customers who purchased a fleet of them.
Enjoy your new yard ornament. She who must be obeyed is surely proud.
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Been watching for years ave, i work with pixies right to repair a huge issue for my shop. Thanks for the video
Thanks for another great video, Uncle Bumblefork.
Perhaps you can do a def system delete? Probably requires ecu recoding and all kinds of fun stuff, but it might be worth looking into. Not reason a lone man on his farm should have to comply with all that emmisions bull crap. Not sure if Canada has farm exemptions (probably not). I wonder why China and India don't have to comply with all that crap when they're the largest polluters? Probably rhetorical. Anyway, good job sorting it out.
Per head of population...ie for every million people... the USA is worse than China or India.
My experience is that made in Italy is only a half-step above made in China.
My experience is Italian is better than German
Italy has sold out a lot of their industries. Take for example their high-end fashion brands, now have sweatshop labor shipped over from Wuhan. It's no wonder they were the second hotspot for the outbreak of cerveza sickness
@@Metapharsical I'm talking industrial equipment ...not g-strings
@@Metapharsicalcervesa sickness is going in the Big Book of Big Coof euphemisms for sure
Glad this turned into a happy story. I personally couldn’t have done any of those repairs and I would have been screwed. Good job
They have enough screen on it it could have told you the actual error and walked you through trouble shooting if the manufacturer cared.
There are many common reasons for this:
1. The bean counters want customers to pay a service call every time there is a fault
2. The engineers didn't have time to program in all codes
3. There is not enough memory to store plaintext of all fault codes.
Most likely all three are true.
These are the videos that prove the hype is real. 8 minutes of absolute strong work! You deserve another 1.5 million subscribers, like tomorrow. Thanks for winning the battles some of us don't even know exist.
Ah the good ol' AdBlue stuff, the reason most diesel engines break down, because the stuff crystallises out and clogs everything up killing an engine through "comptuer sez no!" even though there's nothing mechanically wrong, just that the piss isn't squirting from the hole up the exhaust...
I have a works van that's currently been back to the workshop 4 times already with the same fault. So many parts changed due to their failure. Too much Chineseium in the adblue system. Should have gone petrol.
I recently retired from running a large datacenter which had six Volvo generators which were mistakenly bought with DEF systems. These systems were the bane of my existence, constantly faulting out for no reasons and preventing my generators from running. We could never get decent knowledgeable service on them from anyone. It was just a constant blame game, with the buck being passed like a hot potato. I'm convinced DEF systems are just sold to up service margins.
put some resistors in to the sensors and couple lighbulbs to simulate loads on the def and dpf system, will bypass it, no code issues, and a generator that runs for much longer much happier, may need a straight pipe exhaust but thats perfect for a farm
We bought at little truck mounted "Ferrari" crane that came with no documentation for the cable winch, which has no electrical stop (I forget the term) to keep you from pulling the cable in too far, but has some kind of mechanical device on the end. I couldn't let it go out in the wild without knowing how it worked. The dealer was no help, the manufacturer didn't even respond. I found in a round about way who actually made it and shot them an email. The response I got was essentially "I didn't tell you this, we definitely don't make that for them "wink wink", but it binds the cable and puts a load on to stop the winch" Class act that fella.
Italians might be cooks in heaven, but in hell, they are engineers.
This sounds like the nightmare known as Fresia Italian snowblowers whose motto is 20 hours in the shop for every hour of use.
“Focus you f***!” - just like old times 😂
For years I've muttered it to myself (internal monolog) when watching other content and the camera's autofocus goes crosseyed on them! 🤣
It doesn't burn when I pee, but it does pee when I burn.
Please Brother I beg you from Michigan bring the copper upgrade back! We need bling!! If nothing else offer it to the early supporters. Please Mr. AVE DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!😊
"In order to reduce the oxides and nitrogen... on a diesel gen set... in the middle of nowhere... on somebody's farm..."
Sounds like my kind of risk!
Did you miss the part number on the oil filter? It's printed right on it.
Man. You’re just about one Canadian smartass. God bless you. And your government.
Now you can buy every code clapped Megagen and corner the generator market because you're the only one in the world that's figured out how to repair them.
I'm keeping my 38 year old generator. Only electronics are in the governor, a proper Woodward unit. Mechanical injection which also has a mechanical governor so the RPM is super stable. The spinning thing is a Lima MAC so it fights in a much heavier class than the 12 kW nameplate riveted to the shell.
You are misinformed. DEF doesn't stand for Diesel Exhaust Fluid, it stands for Destroy Engine Faster.
I had forgotten all about this channel. I subscribed awhile ago but haven't seen anything come through the till just now. This guy has a talent for jibber-jabbing if that's even a word.