WinWing user here. I found it to be 'plug and play' with no issues with the software or the install. I simply D/L'd Sim App Pro, launched it and connected the FCU via USB. It was detected by the software and I then updated the Firmware and launched MSFS and it all worked. I don't even need to launch Sim App Pro before each flight session with MSFS. Looking forward to purchasing all the other Airbus products that are coming.
I wonder if they updated the software. Maybe I'll give it another go. I've been using Mobiflight with my WinWing as it was the only software that let me use it with the FBW, not just the Fenix.
I'm using the WingWing (have not tried the others to compare) but it has changed my simming experience. I don't just use it for the A320, I use it for every plane that has an AP system, and most recently for the 777. Typically, for non-A320 models I use AAO to set it up for each plane. For 777 I use Mobiflight (only because a true hero shared a Mobiflight/ 777 setup on Flightsim that works perfectly). I'm always in VR, and it's so easy to reach out and "find" the correct knob - it's been a real game changer for me! Granted, I'm sure you could use the other 2 products in the same way, but I can only speak to this one. As for the WingWing software, I also had to scratch my head at first, but once I got it set up I have had no issues with it. But you're correct, definitely could have used a bit more info on it at first.
I strongly disagree with your comments regarding the software on the WinWing. I found this to be completely plug and play. I followed the instructions, installed the software. Plugged in the unit and ran FS2020. The software detected that I was flying the FBW A320 and the FCU worked flawlessly. I think to offer a fair review you should have done a clean install on all three units using the latest software instead of repeating your original comments from the review you posted months ago.
Hi I am curious to know your procedure for using the unit. I have been having issues. I normally will start the SW before the flight sim, but this only work some of the time. Thanks
Winwing user here - again, no issues at all with the software. Literally worked with zero effort after installing the software. It also gets regular updates. I think you need to remove/reinstall the software and offer thoughts again.
I have used the Winwing FCU for a while, and it is plug and play. The buttons and knobs have a great texture and the product quality is good. The knobs seem to function the same as the real aircraft. But the EFIS and MCDU are not out yet, I am looking forward to it.
No idea why you found it difficult to use and setup the WinWing, it’s very straightforward to me, installed SimAppPro, ran it, FCU shows up, do firmware updates, works in the sim, so what’s the problem??
Winwing FCU….and awaiting the EFIS now. My 1:1 scale a320 cockpit is basically finished, so the EFIS will be a nice final piece….until my next piece that is 🤣
Winwing software now much improved, but if you don't like it there's mobiflight compatibility so you can use it with other aircraft too. It's a fantastic product at any price, at the price it is it's an absolute bargain and a game changer that should see an end to simmers being milked as cash cows
I get my Winwing to Day. Only Download the App, start, Plugin the FCU and all work perfekt. The Quality is Great! The Price 94$ is woooow. I Hope the other Panles come son.
Gavin, i think if you including the Wingflex at that level of cost, you have to consider the slightly cheaper Skalarki offering, coming in at £860 for Capt and FO MCDU & EFIS, or £640 for MCDU and just Capt's EFIS. SUPURB build quality, simple software interface. These guys make the gear for professional flight simulators, but have a desktop version for the prices above. All USB plug and Play.
@Easyjetsimpilot the Good thing about Skalarki is it is British Company based in the midlands. So for us UK based simmers non of this highly inflated Postage costs.
@@SchmidtyC Yes, my mistake, I meant the FCU + Capt's EFIS for £690, which when compared to the WingFlex offering is cheaper!. I have the 'Desktop Bundle 1' which is the FCU (Capt's and FO EFIS), MCDU and Landing Gear Module (ABRK) and that cost £1499. Outstanding all metal build (Plastic Knobs). To be very Honest i never use the FO EFIS at all, Maybe i might set 'Airports' on that side, but again being honest it is not needing. As a Bundle they all connect together with one power lead and daisy chained with a USB cable. EASY plug and Play software, and can do Fenix & FBW A320, and the Headwind A339. Not tried with any other AC as i don't own anything else.
I have the WinWings and I'm very happy with the product, For the price can't go wrong with that, right. WinfFlex is cool however it's very expensive to the point that you can get the full Winwings gear for half the price, Yeah the software isn't that good however I thing that they will improve the software - if the software was fully renews and epic then windings is the winner
I had problems getting the WinWing running and when I finally got it running. When you first load the WinWing software, I don't understand why they put this option in there. It ask; Are you the sole user or everybody can use. If you selected the "sole operator", then each time you run the WinWing software, you have to right click and, "Run as Administrator". Then run MS Flight sim normal, you don't have to run MSFS as the Administrator.
I like a lot the minicockpit because the quality and the possibility to use with mods for mobiflight software, with every plane of the fs2020 . i have file configuration for ATR72 600, Outstanding configuration for PMDG737 and777,for Microsoft 787,for inibuids,FBW, Leonardo MD90, Even the new MD11 out of the market ,and all GA planes on market 😊. The downside is about the customs fee in Canary Islands and the time have to wait for the Next EFIS addon for minicockpit if it happens to go out to the market
Mini FCU looks like old VCR. 😂We should not promote wingflex products we need stop retailers like that from the market selling products for that high pricing . Thank you winwing sim you just won so many flight simmers . Your price and your products are amazing.
I own a winwing, no problem at all with the software. Just plug it in, start the software and the flight sim. Done. I'm really looking forward to the other modules, especially the com-panel for Vatsim ;) Btw, I know, I'm a bit picky, but it's either LC Display or LCD 😅
I own the Mini FCU and the WinWing FCU no problems with the software or software installation with either of these units. The WinWing was more affordable but was only compatible with the MSFS default A320, and Fly By Wire A320 aircraft (don’t own Fenix) The Mini FCU (more expensive) worked with ALL the Airbus aircraft that I own in MSFS A318, A319, A320 MSFS default, A320 FlyByWire with no issues or problems. I find myself using the mini FCU and placing the WinWing on the shelf. I don’t understand why when wing can’t develop software to support all airbus aircraft like the mini FCU.
WinWing because you can have full autopilot panel for around 250 pounds no tax etc and the quality is very good. You cant find somethinf cheaper then that
i agree with the comments. Every time I try to download the drivers and software, its aggressively blocked by anti-virus software and firewalls. When I finally downloaded the driver it just t dint work and interact with the sim.
Not entirely true, as a guy who flies real A320’s for a major low cost carrier everyday, we use the EXPED button on just about every noise abatement departure. Not wise to use it on descent though 😂.
I’d say none of these take my fancy over the Quickmade QFCU. Plug and play, no software other than drivers all automatically recognised and great developer support. I’ve never found a normal or abnormal scenario where it doesn’t behave exactly as the real A320 does. Has FCU and both EFIS panels for $150 USD cheaper than Wingflex. There’s more options out there.
I think that there is no other winner besides Winwing. Why buying a 80% size unit? The difference is not that much, I think the available space in the desk is not an excuse. Also, the quality is really, great, the knobs are great, it's plug-and-play (it really is) and... the price! I think it's so obvious that is the right choice for a big big margin.
I am not sure why you’re not happy with your review and your talking about the colours and installation . There aren’t many who could afford so crazy prices from other sellers compared to WinWings products. I know it’s easy to say when things are given for free, let’s just be fair for the price it’s more than worthy.
I own winwing fcu and from my experience with it i had no problem setting up the device, it has to be connected straight to the motherboard usb port ,as for the simapp i just downoladed it open it up before flight sim and it just worked with fenix a320.
Could you clarify what you mean by "it has to be connected straight to the motherboard USB port"? Does that mean it cannot be plugged into USB hubs or the front ports on your PC case? If so, that is a BIG problem for me. Why is it like this? Or perhaps you only have to do this for the initial setup? Seems like a very weird restriction to me.
@@mdhazeldine It is recommended by Winwing for initial setup and update the firmware to be connected to the motherboard and not have any usb hub or device on the pc exept mouse and keyboard of course.
@@sharkkiller-fd2ffI don’t think so, when he got his it was early days. I got mine and went to the website and downloaded the software. You have to make sure the software is running before the sim is and it’s perfect.
I purchased the WinWing and I agree, the build quality is great. The software is a mess. I have issues every time I fly. I eventually get it working but it always entails a software restart and/or unplugging and plugging in the USB. I personally like when I can use mobiflight for this type of hardware because it works and it is extremely flexible. Once the unit is working in the sim, it works very well, no problems, and very responsive. The one issue I have is that the LCD screen does not get very bright, but this just may be my unit. The back lighting is really bright. All in all, it was the price that led me to this unit, and the build quality really would be worth it at twice the price. I am really hoping they will get the software issue resolved because I am looking forward to the release of the EFIS unit.
I think you are 100% correct Gavin..Superb unit in the WinWing for the price BUT software is awful.. How can WinWing produce such a great product but dump you with software with no info or paperwork in how to set it up...My Windows 10 even rejected it had to get my son to sort that... The latest update in software I could not get to work but thankfully still had the original to fall back on.....Also its such a mistake to not have the mounting compatible with Logitech or Honeycomb units.....Sombody should print an add on cabinet for the FCU1 to fit...The Winflex would be brilliant, but I could not justify the cost also I fly other aircraft so no point in spending a fortune.
Gav, I got hit with £51 customs for the minifcu, so won't be buying anymore of their products, just wish the winwing had come out first. But bit the bullet and purchased the winwing, it is my preferred product.
WinWing user here. I found it to be 'plug and play' with no issues with the software or the install. I simply D/L'd Sim App Pro, launched it and connected the FCU via USB. It was detected by the software and I then updated the Firmware and launched MSFS and it all worked. I don't even need to launch Sim App Pro before each flight session with MSFS. Looking forward to purchasing all the other Airbus products that are coming.
Me too! I am looking forward to the upcoming EFIS.
I wonder if Easyjetsimpilot had a pre-release version and the software wasn't quite release ready. Perhaps it's much better now?
I wonder if they updated the software. Maybe I'll give it another go. I've been using Mobiflight with my WinWing as it was the only software that let me use it with the FBW, not just the Fenix.
@@TruBluLew23 FBW is supported, you need to update Simapp first and keep it open.
Me too
I'm using the WingWing (have not tried the others to compare) but it has changed my simming experience. I don't just use it for the A320, I use it for every plane that has an AP system, and most recently for the 777. Typically, for non-A320 models I use AAO to set it up for each plane. For 777 I use Mobiflight (only because a true hero shared a Mobiflight/ 777 setup on Flightsim that works perfectly). I'm always in VR, and it's so easy to reach out and "find" the correct knob - it's been a real game changer for me! Granted, I'm sure you could use the other 2 products in the same way, but I can only speak to this one. As for the WingWing software, I also had to scratch my head at first, but once I got it set up I have had no issues with it. But you're correct, definitely could have used a bit more info on it at first.
I strongly disagree with your comments regarding the software on the WinWing. I found this to be completely plug and play. I followed the instructions, installed the software. Plugged in the unit and ran FS2020. The software detected that I was flying the FBW A320 and the FCU worked flawlessly. I think to offer a fair review you should have done a clean install on all three units using the latest software instead of repeating your original comments from the review you posted months ago.
Hi I am curious to know your procedure for using the unit. I have been having issues. I normally will start the SW before the flight sim, but this only work some of the time. Thanks
@@ericksturm5217 I start the software first and then FS2020. Which 320 are you using? FBW? Fenix?
Crazy how many of these devices have came out in less than a year. Thanks for this comparison!
Winwing user here - again, no issues at all with the software. Literally worked with zero effort after installing the software. It also gets regular updates. I think you need to remove/reinstall the software and offer thoughts again.
I have used the Winwing FCU for a while, and it is plug and play. The buttons and knobs have a great texture and the product quality is good. The knobs seem to function the same as the real aircraft. But the EFIS and MCDU are not out yet, I am looking forward to it.
No surprise to see this was a WingFlex sponsor video
@@blk_miss1le963 🤣🤣 - if they'd have sponsored it, I wouldn't have had to purchase the unit.
I got the miniFCU right when it launched so I'm sticking with that. That being said, I love it!
I use the wingflex and it changes the way of flying. A perfect immersion
I purchased the Wingwig FCU and I have had zero issues with simapp. It is just working.
Inexpensive is a much better description of the Winwing FCU than "cheap". Mercy!!!😤
love my winwing fcu it's the best
No idea why you found it difficult to use and setup the WinWing, it’s very straightforward to me, installed SimAppPro, ran it, FCU shows up, do firmware updates, works in the sim, so what’s the problem??
Winwing FCU….and awaiting the EFIS now. My 1:1 scale a320 cockpit is basically finished, so the EFIS will be a nice final piece….until my next piece that is 🤣
Winwing software now much improved, but if you don't like it there's mobiflight compatibility so you can use it with other aircraft too. It's a fantastic product at any price, at the price it is it's an absolute bargain and a game changer that should see an end to simmers being milked as cash cows
I get my Winwing to Day. Only Download the App, start, Plugin the FCU and all work perfekt. The Quality is Great! The Price 94$ is woooow. I Hope the other Panles come son.
Thanks for this, helped me decide 5 months in advance :)
Gavin, i think if you including the Wingflex at that level of cost, you have to consider the slightly cheaper Skalarki offering, coming in at £860 for Capt and FO MCDU & EFIS, or £640 for MCDU and just Capt's EFIS. SUPURB build quality, simple software interface. These guys make the gear for professional flight simulators, but have a desktop version for the prices above. All USB plug and Play.
Not had any dealings with these, but sounds interesting.
Completely agree I have this unit and totally happy
@Easyjetsimpilot the Good thing about Skalarki is it is British Company based in the midlands. So for us UK based simmers non of this highly inflated Postage costs.
Where can we see these bundles? Looking at the site and from what I can see the FCU captain's side alone is £690, let alone adding a MCDU.
@@SchmidtyC Yes, my mistake, I meant the FCU + Capt's EFIS for £690, which when compared to the WingFlex offering is cheaper!. I have the 'Desktop Bundle 1' which is the FCU (Capt's and FO EFIS), MCDU and Landing Gear Module (ABRK) and that cost £1499. Outstanding all metal build (Plastic Knobs). To be very Honest i never use the FO EFIS at all, Maybe i might set 'Airports' on that side, but again being honest it is not needing. As a Bundle they all connect together with one power lead and daisy chained with a USB cable. EASY plug and Play software, and can do Fenix & FBW A320, and the Headwind A339. Not tried with any other AC as i don't own anything else.
I have the WinWings and I'm very happy with the product, For the price can't go wrong with that, right. WinfFlex is cool however it's very expensive to the point that you can get the full Winwings gear for half the price, Yeah the software isn't that good however I thing that they will improve the software - if the software was fully renews and epic then windings is the winner
I had problems getting the WinWing running and when I finally got it running. When you first load the WinWing software, I don't understand why they put this option in there. It ask; Are you the sole user or everybody can use. If you selected the "sole operator", then each time you run the WinWing software, you have to right click and, "Run as Administrator". Then run MS Flight sim normal, you don't have to run MSFS as the Administrator.
Before I order the wing flex does this work with Microsoft 2024? Fenix a 320 etc
Looks like it it’s.
Great video! It would be great to have a video about how-to use WinWing for non-A320 aircraft. Any ideas guys?
I have the mini fcu which I'm really happy with it😊
I like a lot the minicockpit because the quality and the possibility to use with mods for mobiflight software, with every plane of the fs2020 .
i have file configuration for ATR72 600, Outstanding configuration for PMDG737 and777,for Microsoft 787,for inibuids,FBW, Leonardo MD90, Even the new MD11 out of the market ,and all GA planes on market 😊. The downside is about the customs fee in Canary Islands and the time have to wait for the Next EFIS addon for minicockpit if it happens to go out to the market
How do you configure for the different aircraft as that would be a game changer for me. I have the miniFCU
The WinWing FCU works in Mobiflight too, and there’s a number of profiles available for other aircraft.
Mini FCU looks like old VCR. 😂We should not promote wingflex products we need stop retailers like that from the market selling products for that high pricing .
Thank you winwing sim you just won so many flight simmers . Your price and your products are amazing.
I own a winwing, no problem at all with the software. Just plug it in, start the software and the flight sim. Done. I'm really looking forward to the other modules, especially the com-panel for Vatsim ;)
Btw, I know, I'm a bit picky, but it's either LC Display or LCD 😅
I prefer Liquid CD :)
Sorry but I've never heard someone call an LCD display a LC display.
@@blk_miss1le963 LCD = Liquid Chrystal Display.
So LCD-Display means Liquid Chrystal Display Display 😅
@@RiverRaid82 Yea well when it's being used nobody says LC display
@@blk_miss1le963 I do 🤷🏻♂️
I own the Mini FCU and the WinWing FCU no problems with the software or software installation with either of these units. The WinWing was more affordable but was only compatible with the MSFS default A320, and Fly By Wire A320 aircraft (don’t own Fenix) The Mini FCU (more expensive) worked with ALL the Airbus aircraft that I own in MSFS A318, A319, A320 MSFS default, A320 FlyByWire with no issues or problems. I find myself using the mini FCU and placing the WinWing on the shelf. I don’t understand why when wing can’t develop software to support all airbus aircraft like the mini FCU.
winwing literally supports the fbw and fenix
WinWing because you can have full autopilot panel for around 250 pounds no tax etc and the quality is very good. You cant find somethinf cheaper then that
i agree with the comments. Every time I try to download the drivers and software, its aggressively blocked by anti-virus software and firewalls. When I finally downloaded the driver it just t dint work and interact with the sim.
Tbf.. when winwing launches the efis you’ll have the whole set (like winflex) for less than a third of the price. 👀
Have you heard of the new Octavi IFR-1?
Why winwing has not EXPED button?
This button is not commonly used in real world, so it was left it blank and you can configure it to the EXPED or the FD.
Not entirely true, as a guy who flies real A320’s for a major low cost carrier everyday, we use the EXPED button on just about every noise abatement departure. Not wise to use it on descent though 😂.
@@KK80-p5v whats the real use of this button?
@@KK80-p5v I standf corrected, however the button can be configured as you like.
Very true 😊
I’d say none of these take my fancy over the Quickmade QFCU. Plug and play, no software other than drivers all automatically recognised and great developer support. I’ve never found a normal or abnormal scenario where it doesn’t behave exactly as the real A320 does. Has FCU and both EFIS panels for $150 USD cheaper than Wingflex. There’s more options out there.
Are any of these compatible for Xbox s please
I think that there is no other winner besides Winwing. Why buying a 80% size unit? The difference is not that much, I think the available space in the desk is not an excuse. Also, the quality is really, great, the knobs are great, it's plug-and-play (it really is) and... the price! I think it's so obvious that is the right choice for a big big margin.
Is it work with a320 fenix
Prefer the mini: the others take too much space on desk.
I am not sure why you’re not happy with your review and your talking about the colours and installation .
There aren’t many who could afford so crazy prices from other sellers compared to WinWings products. I know it’s easy to say when things are given for free, let’s just be fair for the price it’s more than worthy.
@@SriLankanPilot Just to clarify, I purchased the Wingflex unit.
@@Easyjetsimpilot oh ok, so WINWING one was for free, but anyways I don’t think there product isn’t bad for for the money . Safe !
All saying winwing is cheap but you can only use it on 1 airplane its just ridiculouse when all Airbus have the same cockpit and same fcu
I use the miniFCU and very satisfied.
simapppro is easy to use and setup and updates easy
buttons correct spot and cheap, but its 320. 747mcp we need lol
I purchased the Wingflex it’s outstanding! I think it’s worth the price.
I own winwing fcu and from my experience with it i had no problem setting up the device, it has to be connected straight to the motherboard usb port ,as for the simapp i just downoladed it open it up before flight sim and it just worked with fenix a320.
Could you clarify what you mean by "it has to be connected straight to the motherboard USB port"? Does that mean it cannot be plugged into USB hubs or the front ports on your PC case? If so, that is a BIG problem for me. Why is it like this? Or perhaps you only have to do this for the initial setup? Seems like a very weird restriction to me.
@@mdhazeldine It is recommended by Winwing for initial setup and update the firmware to be connected to the motherboard and not have any usb hub or device on the pc exept mouse and keyboard of course.
@@akiskalafatis9817 Ah ok. That's not too bad then
Winwing because has best
Price
Quality
And is beatiful!
I have mine 1 month ago and it’s the best thing I ever bought in my life 😊
Shame it takes like 10 years to arrive
Was it really as hard to get it to work as he says it is?
@@sharkkiller-fd2ffI don’t think so, when he got his it was early days. I got mine and went to the website and downloaded the software. You have to make sure the software is running before the sim is and it’s perfect.
@@Rowan66109 go to their website and make a ticket
But it's from china isn't it?
I purchased the WinWing and I agree, the build quality is great. The software is a mess. I have issues every time I fly. I eventually get it working but it always entails a software restart and/or unplugging and plugging in the USB. I personally like when I can use mobiflight for this type of hardware because it works and it is extremely flexible.
Once the unit is working in the sim, it works very well, no problems, and very responsive. The one issue I have is that the LCD screen does not get very bright, but this just may be my unit. The back lighting is really bright. All in all, it was the price that led me to this unit, and the build quality really would be worth it at twice the price. I am really hoping they will get the software issue resolved because I am looking forward to the release of the EFIS unit.
The mini FCU is the best. It’s a good compromise between price and quality
I think you are 100% correct Gavin..Superb unit in the WinWing for the price BUT software is awful.. How can WinWing produce such a great product but dump you with software with no info or paperwork in how to set it up...My Windows 10 even rejected it had to get my son to sort that... The latest update in software I could not get to work but thankfully still had the original to fall back on.....Also its such a mistake to not have the mounting compatible with Logitech or Honeycomb units.....Sombody should print an add on cabinet for the FCU1 to fit...The Winflex would be brilliant, but I could not justify the cost also I fly other aircraft so no point in spending a fortune.
Hi
Gav, I got hit with £51 customs for the minifcu, so won't be buying anymore of their products, just wish the winwing had come out first. But bit the bullet and purchased the winwing, it is my preferred product.
I live in Africa so even the US$ is about 20 times my currency. I can't even afford any of these and you have all three... life sucks.
This video sponsored by MiniFCU
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