6x6 Water Truck Loses Drive Shaft! Needs A Tow!
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2018
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30:30, calls his dad to make sure he's doing it right...this is what you want to see if someone isn't so sure of what he's doing...he checks with someone that knows. This is why Trent gets respect.
This customer is getting on my nerves. Am glad your professional, patient and doing the job by the numbers. Good job. Keep up the awesome work and channel 👍.
These guys boggle my mind. Non-stop challenging the tow driver AFTER they (the idiots) busted their drive shaft. Unbelievable. "How not to drive heavy equipment 101". Oh well.
Another fantastic video from a knowledgeable, hard-working and resourceful tow driver who cares about his work and the people he takes care of. Whether they deserve it or not.
i would have just pulled the rear drive shaft up so its level with a rope or belt and drove it home with the front, ive done that in my 4x4 truck before. never busted a driveshaft on my 6x6
You obviously are not trying hard enough.
Great Job!! Glad to see that you’re not to proud or stubborn to follow up with the old man before proceeding in unfamiliar territory! Love reading comments from the peanut gallery about “how you should’ve done the job” #backseattowers
I wanna see more cabin footage. That engine sounds amazing.
What a strange world. I now know how to hook up leaf-spring fork adapters :)
Example of different types of men, ones that knows what they're doing, ones that think they know what they're doing, and ones that are annoying lol
Wow customer seems confrontational, respect your patience... drive shafts don’t just come apart it takes abuse to break a drive shaft, it all comes down to the operator.
Did you not even notice that the shaft had the F-up bolts, do you not have enough grey matter to figure out the shaft has been worked on before and was probably not done right. Also yes drive shafts can break and do especially with the way they are computer adjusting the torque and fuel for economy. That is why the shaft sizes have grown.
The customer was annoying the crap out of me. Kudos for keeping your patience lol
That was a very interesting video. Learned about some new forks for lifting trucks with a different style axel. As always a Great Video!
Good job diffusing his anger and assessing the site and truck to do the job. By the end the guy knew you knew what you are doing. When the customer said "what do you need me to do?" you where very polite in not telling him what you needed him to do. Guy was tense and you showed professionalism and he chilled, I always got stuck with the whiners and screamers for customers at work and it burned me out. Got so I could care less to hear my mother in law.
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I am proud of you for calling your dad about the way you hooked up the truck. Most guys would have done it and hoped they did it correctly. You are getting real good at this business and asking questions will make you better.
the guy is annoying.. gotta let you do your job.. also, when you go to pull a driveshaft or anything with bolts/screws etc, maybe get a small magnetic dish to throw them in
Liked - My thoughts exactly, on the magnetic dish and, a bucket or plastic bag to go over the ends of the shafts/U-joints before they go into the dirt - maybe.
Yea harbor freight has them for a good price
Let the driver do his job and just move out of the way.
he needs one of them fits'em all sockets
Put a tarp down... Also splines looked good why not try to put the DS back together?
Awesome video Trent , thanks for sharing !!!
Looks like this call /tow was really physical as I could here you working hard !!!
I like the way ur truck is always clean keep the videos coming as well
Just started watching the videos, great stuff! Im envious of your job:)
very nice video i am learning a lot from you
Excellent work on the truck. There is so much detail when one works by themselves. Its like computer planning when taking on these jobs. My wife and I truly enjoyed watching the planning. 28-Nov-18
Just found this channel. I'm unsure why i find heavy recovery so interesting but i do. Cheers bro.
Always experts to tell you “you should have did this or that” guys just sit back and enjoy Trents great videos!
Oh this is your family business. thats cool man
Love the vids trent. Be safe out there!!
I like all of your videos but I really like the equipment moving with the bule an white Peterbilt an that nice trailer
Awesome work keep it up...stay safe
This reminded me of a family vacation I was on when I was a kid. My dad pulled the brocken driveshaft out of our suburban and drove 1000 miles home towing a 8000lb boat. It worked great and he still owns the suburban 20 years later.
That Suburban probably had a Dana 44 or Dana 60 up front, which is strong enough relative to the vehicle and the trailer. Newer light-trucks with IFS don't usually have front differentials that are strong enough for that kind of service.
Greats from Portugal my man! Good work 💪💪💪
The reason that drive shaft came apart is that it does not have long enough spline area. The drive shaft is for regular truck and not a 6×6. If you noticed the two bolts that were wrong size and grade type. This is because this has happened before to that truck. Most likely a mistake in manufacturing.
The splines themselves are plenty long, just the drive shaft as a whole is too damn short.
Yeah and you can see where they separated it all the weight was on the front and rear most axles so the middle one was hanging(maximum driveshaft extension).
I towed one like that the other day with Volvo forks 😆
You always do a great job man, 😁
It must be nice to work on a newer truck that isn't all caked with grease. I love your videos by the way...
this is my fav thing to watch
Those dudes were so helpful!! Glad they are not all like that. Good job as always ..
Another good job, 5 and 1/2 years on other people's trucks and 26 and 1/2 on my own Petes, was never towed, not saying I never broke down just was never on the hook, interesting watching what you do, pull toy here.
Most likely cause of the axle breaking is the water sloshing back and forth in the tank if it doesn't have baffles in it. Several tons of water moving in a wave in the tank can put a lot of strain on the driveline if it hits the bulkheads at the right time.
CO Jones the drive shaft wasn’t broke it was measured wrong and slid the splines apart when the front drive axle dropped into the low spot because he cut the corner short.
The tank was emptied, so said the driver but still maybe he could've driven it using only the front drive wheels but maybe because it was a rental somebody decided it was better towed for liability reasons.
@@grant69freedom I thought so,I'd have stuck the bitch back together and drove it back to the shop !!!! Junior had it half fixed when he took the front half off,he had done half the mechanics job for him !!!!!
@@richardanderson5109 Yeah, with the wrong part. If they install a proper length driveshaft this won't happen again.
You make me miss towing and would love to be doing it agian...
Like watching your videos keep up the great work
I'm pretty sure that in-n-out at the corner of Ramon and Varner is the busiest one I've ever been to. Great music while we went for a ride on the boom, thanks!
I like that the guys were nice enough to help you out.
Their yard though, it looked really damn awkward. They kept blaming the guy that was driving that he broke the truck, when it looked like he was simply the poor schmuck driving it when something already wrong finally gave out.
Notifications squad good vid as always keep up the good work 👍🏻
Ok those leaf spring forks are awesome, should use them more often!!
Makes you appreciate the ones who dont try to rush you or tell you how to do your job, huh? Hate turning around and tripping over a driver, dont mind talking to them but preferred once the trucks travel ready if possible.
Another great video bro!
Great videos as always Trent. Happy belated Thanksgiving to you and family. Here in Chicago, we got hit hard by this blizzard.
Good job 🤘🏻
great job !!
I've often wondered why you don't get a small plastic bucked, like an ice cream container, to put the drive line bolts and parts in.
Or at least a tarp or blanket to lay on and catch bolts.
Granted this is on much smaller vehicles, but I put the u-joint straps back on and snug the bolts down when taking the driveshaft off. Means I can find the hardware when it's time to reassemble. Done this both on stuff that was getting worked on in the shop and in prep for a wheel-lift tow.
@@TWX1138 not a bad idea. Saves time to just throw in the cab though haha :)
Did it not have the quick connect on the lh frame rail behind the steer tire?
Good stuff
On those asking about the strength of the leaf springs. To expand on Trent’s ‘yes they are’ realize that the truck weight is on the leaf springs-they attach to the truck frame and then to the axle. So with exception of the axle and related parts, the leaf springs hold the weight of the truck when raised off the ground all of the weight including the axle are supported by the leaf springs.
True, it can support the weight but say the leafsprings come loose because of a broken bolt at the front maybe it would be wiser to wrap the frame instead with the chain. That way you have a redundancy of attaching to two separate points. Not likely to happen though so why bother.
Good job
When Trent said "reimburse" I wonder if that just appears as a credit they take off their towing charges, or if they actually are required by some law to really reimburse someone if they have to.
I haven't looked this up yet but if you haven't already done a video on what things would be really nice on a truck to make it easier to hook up to that would be a very helpful video for a lot of drivers I'm sure it would save you some time as well as help you to be able to make more money while still lowering your age just a hair. shoot even if you were to put quick connects or something on the air tanks and stuff I'm pretty sure that would be a big help to yourself in the future or some sort of tying method on every track you come across so that you can control it a lot better and safer while going down steep grades I'm going up steep grades.
This customer is hiding something drivelines don't just separate unless something went wrong usually on The Operators end. Please do a follow-up video of this on the mechanic
Shaft obviously already had work done as it had the F-up bolts.
When you don't even realize you watched an one hour video.
I lost the rear shaft in a cement mixer on a job, boss sent the mechanic to pull the shaft, then had me drive the thing back to the shop with the 6X6 engaged. Guess he didnt wanna shell out for a tow...
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Been a subscriber for awhile
Never knew one of our own was with y’all .
What would you have done if one of those 2 bolts would have just rounded completely?
Trent just wondering if operate a fifty ton wrecker or 35 ton one???
Jon Russo 35 ton
The last thing the water truck needs, is a tow. Pull the driveshaft and finish his water delivery on the front end, then drive it to his own shop.
Bob Bartlett no, thats how you destroy the front axle, driveshaft, or transfer case. It’s not designed to have all of that power only going to the front axle. Whether it’s unloaded or not.
Where did you get those air fittings? They look real handy.
I think Trent said he got them at Home Depot (in another video).
Any hardware store that sells air compressors would have them.
Trent what's with the grates in the entry to those roads?
The Big House pretty sure the grates are so the dirt/sand doesn’t get shoved to one side of the road or the other from the trucks pulling in and out, also helps with traction pulling back out.
I wondered that, too. Only thing I could figure, was maybe to knock-off more of the dirt and sand; to keep it off the pavement?
Keith lance Oh ok thx! That would make sense, just don't see those here in Michigan, lol.
Weren’t they just full of dirt Texas gates for stopping cattle. Theta whet we call them in Canada. We clean ours out with a combo unit so they actually stop cattle.
@@grant69freedom not a cattle guard. Ain't no fence on either side.
What are the large metal areas at the end of the drives?
Was the air pressure 100 and rising on both the primary and secondary, or one or the other (and which one?) Which air tank did you end up connecting to?? Does it matter if you hook up to primary or secondary air tanks? I always heard that the front brakes were on secondary, and the tandem brakes were on primary.
It doesn’t matter they are all connected, just add air
drive shaft flopping messed up those bolts
Nice
Your remarks on tire shine are the same reason I never wear white to my retail job. Show up in a clean white shirt, and get sent to play with mulch and dirt.
Allurade you must work at a hardware store or a big box store
If there shop was just rite down the road why didn't they just drive it there after you pulled the rear drive line, instead of you hookin them and towing it and billing them for a heavy tow?
Brett Callahan that most likely would cause a lot of damage to either the transfer case, front drive shaft, front axle, or some other powertrain related bits. Not a safe gamble for saving a couple bucks
PRobably liability concerns. And the fact that the 6x6 isn't meant for that sort of use so it could have broken that shaft.
"If *their* shop was just *right* down the road" - My guess is that 4X4's and in this case a 6X6, are not designed (or intended) to run as a FWD, only.
A 100' or so at 5-10 MPH, on an empty truck, is probably fine.
1 or more miles would probably void the warranty and take a long time to drive and, may cause damage that might not become evident, right away (or simply break that, too).
Short answer: torque imbalance. _It would be tempting to do, though_ .
6x6 trucks are usually governed for slower speeds. The ones we built where anyway. Drive it nice and easy and they emptied the water, so it would have been fine.
Those 6X6 trucks are meant to only run 6X6 mode at low speed (25mph or less) so attempting to run it back to their shop would have most likely caused damage to the transfer case. It wasn't designed to run highway speed with 6X6 engaged. Moving it 100 feet or so at idle speed is fine, but driving it several miles would ultimately damage the transfer case.
i worked at a place that used wentworth, sae and metric go figure which size you really wanted
You know the job is done when the light bar is flipped out
How much does your truck cost decked out?
Tire Shine + Desert Dust = Shiny Tire Cakes!!
It appears to me the the driveshaft was made too short and the splined shaft just slips out. It need a new shaft made to correct length!
Great job Trent! Couldn't you just let the truck run instead of running air?
Do the gloves ever get annoying from them being thick
What’s the yellow thing you place on the ground?
It's a Lemur Light. It's a battery powered warning light and it also has a work light on it.
Flashing light to warn traffic from a distance
Maybe a stupid comment but is there still a risk of wind up in the diff if you don't remove the drive shafts to the wheels?
Read the show more area above.
Nice work
How much does an average semi truck tow cost?
... From an unreliable source (boom wah) more potatoes, beans, 🍞 did I say bread? yeah more bread and butter than I can spread 😂😂😂....Man you kept your cool and you did an excellent job ( A+).
What camera do you use?
Probably a gopro or something really similar
Read the show more area above.
Do ever chock the wheels before getting under disabled vehicles?
All that time to run a air supply line, i would have just let the thing idle 5 miles down the street. The drive line has already been removed and even though its a 6x6 the front (now the only drive) axel is off the ground. I mean your way is the "Proper way" but there is no hurting it running it in neutral and saving some time
While that is definitely an option that crossed my mind. When the camera is rolling no shortcuts. Thanks for watching!
Why kill someone when you can do it right?
Yea I got a 6x6 but I need a flat bed
Why is there metal plates on the side of the road?
Its dual purpose, first to keep dirt and debris from entering the roadway and two to keep that spot from getting rutted/washed out from high use.
Use pledge for tire shine , you’ll never go back
You know you’re in the middle of no where when give directions by landmarks !
That is normal for a guy to use landmarks.
Wow... Loses long shaft??
People sure don’t slow down much when guys are working on the side of the road...
why the crowding you lol
What do. That call they. Light you put on the ground.
Lemur Light
Thanks. There Expensive light. To replace. Dump people don’t get it. You can see those light. Light up just like. To flashing. Flare light. Pods.
I think that drive shaft has been out before, and that is not original driveshaft that odd bolt on differential u- joint is a giveaway that it has been out before!
Definitely has been out before. I wonder if this problem has happended before and thats why it was out or it was out for another reason. And if they didnt install it right and it caused this problem.
also a foam insulation board makes a great pad to lay on when youre wrenching on trucks
If you wanted to follow him around with it he might like that.
If those guys had a tool kit they could have pulled the driveline and driven it back in 6x6.
James Schrumm that’s what I was thinking
For the same reason he pulls the drive shaft when towing from the front. While the truck can be driven using just the front wheels, especially if there is an emergency. It was not designed to be driven with just the front wheels and could damage the driveline by putting all the strain on the front. Plus, it’s better to be safe and have it towed verse risking damage driving it with just the front wheel.
It also wasn't their truck. It was a rental. Can't risk it.
30mil point turn
Looks to me that the drive shaft is Not broken, but it was made too short and it came out of the spline?
i'll block the road for you bro
Why is it removed drive shaft 🏗🚒
I didn’t make it 20 seconds into the video and his stupid comment if I told her I needed a flatbed did it for me lol “if you’ve never towed before, back off shut up and give me room to work”
Hey Trent how come u just did not wheel lift it...I always wheel lift them whene they are 6x6x6x6,trucks,,a lot easier to do and a lot less strain on them too.,
Still wet behind the ears .
That is not how his rig works best.