Patricia's concern about entering into marriage and not wanting to go in with the idea that they'd divorce if it didn't work out already shows so much more maturity than her own parents had.
Both Dickie and Edwina were sick puppies. There is something to be said for having 90% of ones time taken up with earning, keeping a roof overhead and a chicken in the pot.... the idle rich have waaaaaaay too much time on their hands - time to get into mischief and misadventure......
I think when he was talking about his success for Patricia he meant when he got Earldom and made sure it can passed down to his eldest daughter( which was very unusual) and Patricia became 2nd countess mountbatten of Burma.
Hi Cheere, I am so enjoying this book about the Mountbatten. Fascinating couple. Back in the 1965, Dickie was appointed the last Governor of the Isle of Wight UK, where I now live. He was revered and although he did not live here permanently, he visited frequently people flocked to see him. His popularity had a lot to do with his charm. I knew a photographer whose job it was to cover his visits. Dickie made sure he gave him plenty of photo opportunities and addressed him by his first name, Roger. By this time Lord Louis was in his 70s, but still a handsome man and quite conscious of his image. Roger once told me that Dickie was beginning to stoop at the time. Whenever a significant photo of him on his own, as was often the case, was about to be taken, he would stand with his back to the wall and ask the ADC who always accompanied him to push his shoulders back to reduce his slight stoop. Vain till the end, huh? I thought you would enjoy this little character portrait. His bronze bust in the main square in Newport, capital of the Isle of Wight was unveiled by the then Prince of Wales in the 80s.
It would have been hard to love Edwina. She demanded adoration but was unable return even basic affection. If it wasn’t about her, she wasn’t interested.
IMO - Lord Louis was deeply in love with Edwina. She did not reciprocate . That had to be difficult for him , a manly man & perfectionist . I believe the problems in their marriage began with the wife , leaving him little choice in the matter.
I doubt Dickie cared about the boundaries of nicknames regarding the use of Lilibet. However some of her close friends used it,some still alive when Philip died, hence the late Queen saying she didnt want to hear the name again.
@@fabulousnewt770 by all accounts Queen Elizabeth II was more close to mountbatten than philip was close to mountbatten. Since childhood Elizabeth used call louis mountbatten uncle Dickie (Dickie is nickname Elizabeth used call by his nickname). Though Dickie was 2nd cousin of her father she always called him uncle Dickie and as children Elizabeth and Margreat used to visit mountbatten at brodland. After George VI's death she became more close to mountbatten and considered him as father figure in her life. Not just Dickie but his daughters also called her Lilibet and Dickie's grand children called her auntie Lilibet.
Saved this for bedtime. Really enjoying your review on Mountbattens. I also watched The Vintage Read interview with the author which has added even more to this. Thank you so much Cheere
The letter is very intimate. Since he was absent for most of her life it feels very “the one who got away” worship. Longing to express his true love and regret he didn’t show his love. Very strange, I am surprised it wasn’t suppressed or burned.
Lord wavell who was Viceroy before mountbatten had made big blunder. During world war II India's leader Subhash Chandra boss had created INDIAN national army by convincing many British Indian army man to join it. INDIAN NATIONAL ARMY was supported by Germany and Japan, INA fought against allied forces in burma, Singapore, Andaman island, general public and majority of Indian arm force didn't know about that but after INA lost and lord Wavell decided to make an example out of 3 INA leaders against all advice he opened public case against them and they were executed publicly on red fort, up until this point most people didn't know about INA, after execution, Indian royal navy and army rebelled and with demand of full freedom, many violent protests took places in India. So clearly he didn't had great relationship with Indian leaders and public.
Thank you for continuing with this book. May I take the liberty of suggesting we move away from the BRF and hear a review of Ask Not by Maureen Callahan with next book. Can we explore our "Kennedy dynasty" and their treatment of women? It is a page turner and well researched.Women like Mary Richardson Kennedy and Pamela Kelley I have not previously heard of.❤
I don’t think Dickie took India reluctantly. His ego fed off he’s need to be considered indispensable. He also loves to be seen as a favorite of the Crown
Yay!...Another episode of The Mountbatten's from Cheere! Also, I'm so glad you are reading the Scobie book...you make his nonsense more palatable. I would never contribute a penny to him or his paymasters...so thank you for taking one for the team. That way only one book is purchased and we are lucky enough that you are sharing it with us. Thank you @cheeredenise 😊
I’m loving your reading of this book!! I’m also binging on Traitor King. Andrew Lownie is a fabulous historian and writer and you do his books justice. Maybe an unpopular view but I’m also enjoying your take on End Game!!
I had to replay the size of the viceroy’s “house” and then played it again for my husband to hear …… that is so obscene and I am suffering second hand embarrassment - how dare they? It is so disgusting and obscene 🤬🤢🇬🇧 I am truly horrified and feel so badly for the Indian population at that time
@shabbysuzannah3702 that's the way things were then. Things were built on a grand scale, just as the Indian rulers palaces were magnificent, this had to be, as a symbol of power. Now a presidential Palace, I believe.
I was just reminded of the movie 'a passage to India'. I must watch that movie again. Set earlier than the Mountbattens, but a preview of what's to come. Thanks for continuing the book.
I didn't hear 'dum and moronic', mentioned, perhaps that's why Mountbatten didn't know which category he fitted in, especially after he shattered India asunder...
Being the Viceroy of India was a HUGE deal all through its history. It’s a fascinating topic & wish I knew more than I do. And this was SUCH a turbulent time with the horrors of partition to come. I have 2 friends on either side of the country who have managed to make sure, and these are probably 2 of the best humans I know in every way, that you & everyone else knew that one of their close ancestors had a high position with the Viceroy . They both came from very moneyed families. One had retained the family fortune the other’s had been frittered away by her parent’s generation. Both women one of whom I’ve known for 45+ years, retained the gentility, grace & some sort of magic with an aristocratic air. Both can talk to ANYONE about ANYTHING to put people at their ease. The outward gentility has rubbed off on them but Ive read some books and seen some things, fiction and not & the lifestyle was much like Wallis and David, Edwinas etc And there was a lot of drinking. Both could swear like troopers too cos they’re Aussie chicks.
Well re that letter isn’t that almost word for word what he used to write to Edwina ., yuk ! And as for the rumours about Mountbatten and boys it just makes the whole thing extremely yuk.
Geez this crew all has attachment issues. Thank goodness Catherine is focused on early years research. I'm sure she's see all sorts of problems now she's in the aristocracy!
If you have those tendencies you don't just get them in later life. These people's reputations were very well protected as they are to this day. Jimmy S and JE are just two examples. IMHO
Love your channel!! I found you last summer and just really enjoyed your take on Spare and Revenge:)! I find myself agreeing with your personal takes on what you have read .. and just about life in general:). Keep up the great work!! Also.. I love the darker hair and the style on you!! Sending love from Florida🪻.
I don't know that it's true but I wonder if Dickie thought his second daughter wasn't his and there lies the difference between the 2. There are some chapters I have struggled with but then these last 2 chapters totally intrigued me. I feel as if I'm a fly on the wall listening or seeing all this infighting. Good read
Bwahahahaha… when I opened this video your facial expression had me laughing out loud and I just knew this was going to be a terrific ride! You are both brilliant and hilarious ❤️❤️❤️
I'm actually surprised that this book is still keeping my interest. I must say, I can not wait for Andrew Lownie's new book about Andrew and Sarah D&DoY. I think it's coming out next year. Going to be good...
Dicki and Edwina's life loosely reminds me of the "Shrimpy Family" portrayed in Downton Abbey. 😊 He became Viceroy of India. There was a close relationship between him and his daughter Rose which his wife was jealous of...etc.
Hey Denise, London lad here huge admirer of your channel and videos ❤ you should also read “from a clear blue sky” written by mountbattens grandson about the summer holiday in classybawn castle in Sligo ireland - including and after the terrorist attack on his family and the impact it had on him personally - he lost his identical twin brother aged just 15. I was lucky enough to know the person who bought the castle from the mountbattens and leased it back to them - until that owners death in the 2010s the interior of the castle was exactly as it had been that day in 1979 - only the tv and the kitchen had been updated - if they’d wanted to film a movie about it it would have been the perfect set because it was exactly as it had been. The letter here sounds like he’s drunk which was often 😂
I was not prepared to hear about those unconventional views Dickie had towards his own daughters. How strange! He spent so little time with them (maybe that was a good thing), especially during WWII, but it is still not an excuse for such "unfatherly" behavior towards one's own daughters. I wonder how his children felt about their unorthodox relationship with such a distant and weird father? He certainly dabbled in a lot...royalty cosplay, decorated naval officer and post-war work in India that to me seemed to be that of a British diplomat/governmental representative. When the book mentioned the start of Edwina's journey into menopause, all I could think was "Oh Lawd, here we go" - LOL!!! Dickie better buckle up, Buttercup!
Both Pamela and Patricia says that both of them were very close to their father and he wrote them regularly when he wasn't with them and sent them video, photos and gift with letters. They says he was very warm, caring and loving father. He took great interest in their education and when he was with them he would go to their room at night and would tell them stories wouldn't leave their room until they fall sleep and they also says that they could says and share everything with their father. They could even disagree and criticised he wouldn't mind that try to improve. He was same with his grandchildren. On the other hand they described their mother as cold and distance and they often had to walk on egg shell around her because she would take anything personally could get upset easily.
@@krishnavyas313 That's interesting...thanks for sharing that information. To be honest, I lost a lot of respect for Dickie when I watched Andrew Lownie's two-part interview with Shauna, of The Vintage Read. I won't give any spoilers away, because we havent reached that part in the book, but I was disturbed by what Mr. Lownie unearthed in his research for his "The Mountbattens" book.
@@lisalivingston6473 As an Indian, I was always interested in Mountbattens. I have watched author's interview on vintage read show and I also have completed this book on audible a year ago. I am currently reading Mountbatten's youngest daughter Lady Pamela Hicks's book - Daughter of the Empire, my life as Mountbatten. I mean people are multi-dimensional a criminal can also be loving and devoted father. I was absolutely disgusted by mountbatten's behaviour with minor boys. The more I read about previous century's people the more I Thank God that I wasn't alive at that time. Mountbatten was also sexualy compromised by his tutor when he was 12-13 and may be he enjoyed it he was of the era when it was legal to mary 13 years old girl nobody cared about charlie chaplain's wives age or Einstein's perverted behaviour or nobody cared even in 60's when Elvis started dating his 1st wife when she was just 14. In high society Homosexuality if discrete was acceptable. Not just Mountbatten many High profile people were pedophile. When read in books, news and articles, how in posh boarding schools, these royals and aristocrats boys sexualy compromised by pedo staff members, and boys having sex with each other with or without consent, no wonder many of them trun out very awful. I can't digest that It was open secret that Edward VIII and prince george were bisexual but how could Mountbatten hide it very well? I mean nobody even his enemies said anything about his sexuality while he was still alive or no blackmail from gigolo like they blackmail to prince George and no blackmail from maid like Edward VIII and Dickie's sister in law were blackmail by maid. Thank God today people don't tolerate that kind of behavior but sadly I have heard stories that even in 1st world country like USA these still happens. In many USA states an adult man can still marry minor girl with her parent's consent.
@@krishnavyas313 Such a great comment! I have nothing against homosexuality if that is a person's personal preference, but I detest when adults target children and minors as sexual predators, especially when the children are made to feel trapped and at the mercy of their abusers. I, too, was disgusted by hearing Andrew Lownie discuss what he learned about Dickie Mountbattens' abuse of young Irish boys who were procured from boys' homes and sent to him to abuse. As for men who are attracted to young girls and teenagers, as you mentioned, it is something that we've seen in many eras over the space of time. More troubling is that in the year 2024, it is still legal for men to marry teenagers in some U.S. states with the consent of the girls' parents. My own great-aunt was married at the age of 14 back in the 1940's. She loved my great-uncle dearly who was 19 at the time of their marriage. They claimed they were childhood sweethearts, but I always thought to myself "what the heck?"...they had to be about 8 or 10 years old when they started to fall in love...they were just babies for goodness sakes!
@@lisalivingston6473 I also have nothing against Homosexuality but I hate pedophile. I just mentioned Homosexuality because at that Homosexuality was illegal and if common men get caught red handed then they were chemically castrated like Alan Turing, he did so much for Britain and saved millions of life but he was chemically castrated, when they find out about his Homosexuality, and then he committed suicide, but these elite people were untouched. They could do water they wanted, even SA children and can face no consequences.
I love this book and the job you so skillfully do in explaining it. I’m so over Harry, Meghan and Diana. Interesting at first but it’s been done to death! Move on. Keep up the good work. ❤
Just watched a chat between Megyn Kelly and Maureen Callahan I think is her name. I only know of her 🇦🇺 because she’s slammed Harry and duchess dog biscuit in the past. WOW!! It’s REALLY going to dispel some myths. Great choice.
Unbeknownst to me, I was at some point unsubscribed from this channel. I just noticed it on the last video and I'm not sure when it happened. I resubscribed, but wanted to let y'all know. If you're a long time subscriber, you may want to double check to ensure this didn't happen to you, too. Hope everyone had a great weekend!
Noel Coward’d Diaries sound like an interesting read as he’s featured SO often in several of these books. I just went to X to ask if there was a book he’d recommend or not only to find that he’s advertising the fact that Traitor King is selling for 99p 😂 Then I quickly went to Good Reads to check he hadn’t already written one. No. BUT he’s written Stalin’s Englishman about the spy Burgess & also found he’d written another on American spies. I’m fascinated by Guy Burgess but it’s probably not to other subscriber’s taste as every channel seems to have more American subscribers than from anywhere else. The Last Kaiser which I’ve mentioned before would be a good choice imo down the track.
I must not be as understanding as Cheere Denise; 😂 But a parent being jealous of their spouse’s relationships with their own children is not something I cannot relate too! Crazy-Town! Sry spell check- something I cannot relate too… lol
Queen Victoria was distant mother like Edwina and she was also jealous of Her children and her husband Albert's relationship. Queen Victoria's father had died when she was just 8 months old and her was very strict and care about her lover more than she care about her daughter. And Edwina's mother died young and her father wasn't that involved. Both Victoria and Edwina didn't receive any love from parents and became self-centered and narcissist to cope with emotional negligence. And got Jealous that their children are receiving more love from a parent than they ever did.
It's actually very common. The jealous parent is either a narcissist or was denied a loving relationship with whichever parent matches their spouse's role.
I am so loving this book! I'm finding it endlessly fascinating that Dickie - a minor aristocrat - was on the fringes of the lives of THREE Monarchs (Edward VIII, George VI and our beloved Elizabeth II) playing at times a pivotal role in their reigns. It was almost like he was constantly within reach of the actual Crown without ever really being able to touch it. Cheere, does the book go all the way to the end of Dickies life? (hope I'm not spoiling anything for those not in the know...) 😉
I wouldn't call Mountbatten "a minor aristocrat". He was great grand son of Queen Victoria and was born as HSH prince Louis of battenberg. His father became Marquess of milford haven and he himself became Earl mountbatten nothing is minor about him. He was very close to his cousins George V, Edward VIII, George VI and Elizabeth II. He also had great influence over Charles III.
Patricia's concern about entering into marriage and not wanting to go in with the idea that they'd divorce if it didn't work out already shows so much more maturity than her own parents had.
Sounds like Dickie was drinking when he wrote the letter. Reminds me of a drunk dialing at midnight.
It's the grandiosity that does it
😂your comment hit me so funny 😆
@@elineman7 I meant it that way, with some truth in it.
LOL!! 😂
Both Dickie and Edwina were sick puppies. There is something to be said for having 90% of ones time taken up with earning, keeping a roof overhead and a chicken in the pot.... the idle rich have waaaaaaay too much time on their hands - time to get into mischief and misadventure......
I don't think they were exactly idle. Being Viceroy was a full time job for them both
I think when he was talking about his success for Patricia he meant when he got Earldom and made sure it can passed down to his eldest daughter( which was very unusual) and Patricia became 2nd countess mountbatten of Burma.
"IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE WRONG THING, YOU MIGHT AS WELL DO IT BOLDLY." Your observations on the material that you review are so interesting.
I am enjoying the book but LOATHE these two people.
Hi Cheere, I am so enjoying this book about the Mountbatten. Fascinating couple. Back in the 1965, Dickie was appointed the last Governor of the Isle of Wight UK, where I now live. He was revered and although he did not live here permanently, he visited frequently people flocked to see him. His popularity had a lot to do with his charm. I knew a photographer whose job it was to cover his visits. Dickie made sure he gave him plenty of photo opportunities and addressed him by his first name, Roger. By this time Lord Louis was in his 70s, but still a handsome man and quite conscious of his image. Roger once told me that Dickie was beginning to stoop at the time. Whenever a significant photo of him on his own, as was often the case, was about to be taken, he would stand with his back to the wall and ask the ADC who always accompanied him to push his shoulders back to reduce his slight stoop. Vain till the end, huh? I thought you would enjoy this little character portrait.
His bronze bust in the main square in Newport, capital of the Isle of Wight was unveiled by the then Prince of Wales in the 80s.
Fascinating, and yes Dickie was very vain !
I live here in 🇬🇧 and I love listening to Cheere. Love this series 👍❤️👍
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!! My heart leapt when I saw a new chapter had dropped!
It would have been hard to love Edwina. She demanded adoration but was unable return even basic affection. If it wasn’t about her, she wasn’t interested.
She was Narcissist
.......I wonder........who have we heard that about more recently ??
@@elizabethsheffield6609😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@krishnavyas313not everyone is a narcissist.
@@LadyCat183 but Edwina definitely was.
I hope you do this for a long time Cheere, Love your content and YOU!
Oh yes. You are my favorite RUclipsr!
I can’t imagine losing Cheere, she’s often the best part of my day❤
I’m
And pretty too.😊
I’m thrilled to see some more on the Mountbattens. I’ve suffered serious withdrawal since the last! Love from London 🇬🇧
I really enjoy listening to your posts/reviews.
Dickie became more close to Pamela after Patricia married but Patricia remained his favorite child.
I was a child when Lord Mountbatten was killed. I remember it being world news. So interesting to hear their story. Thank you Cheere Denise.
IMO - Lord Louis was deeply in love with Edwina. She did not reciprocate . That had to be difficult for him , a manly man & perfectionist . I believe the problems in their marriage began with the wife , leaving him little choice in the matter.
........ahem, according to covert American Reports during WW2 about his behavior - "he" definitely wasn't "a manly man!"
I think Dicky was deeply in love with Dicky and Edwina's money.
I doubt Dickie cared about the boundaries of nicknames regarding the use of Lilibet.
However some of her close friends used it,some still alive when Philip died, hence the late Queen saying she didnt want to hear the name again.
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by all accounts Queen Elizabeth II was more close to mountbatten than philip was close to mountbatten.
Since childhood Elizabeth used call louis mountbatten uncle Dickie (Dickie is nickname Elizabeth used call by his nickname).
Though Dickie was 2nd cousin of her father she always called him uncle Dickie and as children Elizabeth and Margreat used to visit mountbatten at brodland.
After George VI's death she became more close to mountbatten and considered him as father figure in her life.
Not just Dickie but his daughters also called her Lilibet and Dickie's grand children called her auntie Lilibet.
This Aussie is LOVING this book.
Another wonderful episode Cheere! Thank you so much 😊
Thank you am enjoying this too. Dickie was not Normal!
Yeeees. Just sat down with a freshly brewed coffee. Perfect timing.
I love your show
Me too
I think today’s chapters were fascinating!
Saved this for bedtime. Really enjoying your review on Mountbattens. I also watched The Vintage Read interview with the author which has added even more to this. Thank you so much Cheere
Knowing there are rumours about... boys... adds to the revulsion 😢
The letter is very intimate. Since he was absent for most of her life it feels very “the one who got away” worship. Longing to express his true love and regret he didn’t show his love. Very strange, I am surprised it wasn’t suppressed or burned.
I can’t imagine losing Cheere, she’s often the best part of my day❤
Heck, I think this couple would have been better off if Edwina had been Dickie's employee rather than his wife.
Or the other way round 😂
Lord wavell who was Viceroy before mountbatten had made big blunder.
During world war II India's leader Subhash Chandra boss had created INDIAN national army by convincing many British Indian army man to join it. INDIAN NATIONAL ARMY was supported by Germany and Japan, INA fought against allied forces in burma, Singapore, Andaman island, general public and majority of Indian arm force didn't know about that but after INA lost and lord Wavell decided to make an example out of 3 INA leaders against all advice he opened public case against them and they were executed publicly on red fort, up until this point most people didn't know about INA, after execution, Indian royal navy and army rebelled and with demand of full freedom, many violent protests took places in India.
So clearly he didn't had great relationship with Indian leaders and public.
The sun never sets on th British Empire
I’m so enjoying this book and of course your review. Cheers!
Thank you for continuing with this book. May I take the liberty of suggesting we move away from the BRF and hear a review of Ask Not by Maureen Callahan with next book. Can we explore our "Kennedy dynasty" and their treatment of women? It is a page turner and well researched.Women like Mary Richardson Kennedy and Pamela Kelley I have not previously heard of.❤
Excellent notion! I concur that book by Maureen Callahan is a big winner! I have it downloaded to listen to!
Saw a podcast on this. I’m old, so I remember a lot of this, real time. The book sounds extremely interesting! Can’t wait!
She mentioned on a couple of earlier posts that was where she was going when Endgame finishes. I think I am going to purchase it.
I second that suggestion, with alacrity. Pleeeeeeeeease can we do that book next darling Cheere???
What a great idea.
Lovely this book . Andrew Lownie is a fantastic writer .
Thank you! Have you seen the interview of Andrew Lownie on The Vintage Read Show? I bet if you could do it, it'd be very interesting too.❤❤❤
Thanks for bringing up the Scobie book, what a piece of crap that is.
Really interesting! Love hearing about the partition situation too. What a religious mess!
I’m noting my happiness that we aren’t committed to that Omid thing😂
I don’t think Dickie took India reluctantly. His ego fed off he’s need to be considered indispensable. He also loves to be seen as a favorite of the Crown
🎉🎉 I enjoy you reading this book!!
Please continue to read more books about the Royal family.🎉🎉
Queen Elizabeth ii was very close to mountbatten more than philip was close to mountbatten.
Yay!...Another episode of The Mountbatten's from Cheere! Also, I'm so glad you are reading the Scobie book...you make his nonsense more palatable. I would never contribute a penny to him or his paymasters...so thank you for taking one for the team. That way only one book is purchased and we are lucky enough that you are sharing it with us. Thank you @cheeredenise 😊
I love this book. Unlike Scooby's effort, this one is real.
Loved the last two chapters!
Great review.
Thanks!
He also had boy friends.
........as did gay ex prime minister Ted Heath AND both had Boats, on which it was alleged............................
Love it. Thank you. 🎉🎉🎉
I’m loving your reading of this book!! I’m also binging on Traitor King. Andrew Lownie is a fabulous historian and writer and you do his books justice.
Maybe an unpopular view but I’m also enjoying your take on End Game!!
I had to replay the size of the viceroy’s “house” and then played it again for my husband to hear …… that is so obscene and I am suffering second hand embarrassment - how dare they? It is so disgusting and obscene 🤬🤢🇬🇧 I am truly horrified and feel so badly for the Indian population at that time
Don't worry dear, now we use it as presidential resident.
Me too, three times !!
@shabbysuzannah3702 that's the way things were then. Things were built on a grand scale, just as the Indian rulers palaces were magnificent, this had to be, as a symbol of power. Now a presidential Palace, I believe.
I was just reminded of the movie 'a passage to India'. I must watch that movie again. Set earlier than the Mountbattens, but a preview of what's to come. Thanks for continuing the book.
I didn't hear 'dum and moronic', mentioned, perhaps that's why Mountbatten didn't know which category he fitted in, especially after he shattered India asunder...
Yes I enjoyed this weeks episode... thank you
Being the Viceroy of India was a HUGE deal all through its history. It’s a fascinating topic & wish I knew more than I do. And this was SUCH a turbulent time with the horrors of partition to come.
I have 2 friends on either side of the country who have managed to make sure, and these are probably 2 of the best humans I know in every way, that you & everyone else knew that one of their close ancestors had a high position with the Viceroy . They both came from very moneyed families. One had retained the family fortune the other’s had been frittered away by her parent’s generation.
Both women one of whom I’ve known for 45+ years, retained the gentility, grace & some sort of magic with an aristocratic air. Both can talk to ANYONE about ANYTHING to put people at their ease.
The outward gentility has rubbed off on them but Ive read some books and seen some things, fiction and not & the lifestyle was much like Wallis and David, Edwinas etc And there was a lot of drinking.
Both could swear like troopers too cos they’re Aussie chicks.
Well re that letter isn’t that almost word for word what he used to write to Edwina ., yuk ! And as for the rumours about Mountbatten and boys it just makes the whole thing extremely yuk.
....rumors abounded....re: "boys"........& was maybe ONE of the reasons he was finally blown up on his Boat?
This was fascinating. Looking forward - with some dread - to next week and partition of India
Geez this crew all has attachment issues. Thank goodness Catherine is focused on early years research. I'm sure she's see all sorts of problems now she's in the aristocracy!
Do you know about the rumours surrounding Mountbatten's secret and odd love interests?
If true it is no wonder Edwina kept him at a distance.
Oh it’s true !!!
But only later in life, so not the reason for Edwin's affairs.
If you have those tendencies you don't just get them in later life. These people's reputations were very well protected as they are to this day. Jimmy S and JE are just two examples. IMHO
Love your channel!! I found you last summer and just really enjoyed your take on Spare and Revenge:)! I find myself agreeing with your personal takes on what you have read .. and just about life in general:). Keep up the great work!! Also.. I love the darker hair and the style on you!! Sending love from Florida🪻.
Thank you. I like this book also.
Loved it, i'm enjoying this book so much !
ty for your content...i find it hard to focus as i get older but i love reading ...
Fascinating. Edwina is a cow.
He was a raving snob.
I don't know that it's true but I wonder if Dickie thought his second daughter wasn't his and there lies the difference between the 2. There are some chapters I have struggled with but then these last 2 chapters totally intrigued me. I feel as if I'm a fly on the wall listening or seeing all this infighting. Good read
Bwahahahaha… when I opened this video your facial expression had me laughing out loud and I just knew this was going to be a terrific ride! You are both brilliant and hilarious ❤️❤️❤️
Love the video! So glad to learn history!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This book is excellent. Thank you
Love this channel! Have watched every episode since discovering your insightful reviews !
Happy for OS book to finish sooner rather than later dont bother finishing it
I'm actually surprised that this book is still keeping my interest.
I must say, I can not wait for Andrew Lownie's new book about Andrew and Sarah D&DoY.
I think it's coming out next year.
Going to be good...
Dicki and Edwina's life loosely reminds me of the "Shrimpy Family" portrayed in Downton Abbey. 😊
He became Viceroy of India. There was a close relationship between him and his daughter Rose which his wife was jealous of...etc.
And rose relationship with black singer like Edwina had.
Great chapter.
Loving this series
Hey Denise, London lad here huge admirer of your channel and videos ❤ you should also read “from a clear blue sky” written by mountbattens grandson about the summer holiday in classybawn castle in Sligo ireland - including and after the terrorist attack on his family and the impact it had on him personally - he lost his identical twin brother aged just 15.
I was lucky enough to know the person who bought the castle from the mountbattens and leased it back to them - until that owners death in the 2010s the interior of the castle was exactly as it had been that day in 1979 - only the tv and the kitchen had been updated - if they’d wanted to film a movie about it it would have been the perfect set because it was exactly as it had been.
The letter here sounds like he’s drunk which was often 😂
I think it’s the issue where “dicky” felt closer to someone by creating a better than dynamic…and he divided his kids as well so it’s an evil win win
Maybe he wasnt sure that his younger Daughter Pamela was his. So that is why he says " I love her because she is your sister"
I’m piping up, I’m loving this Mountbatten saga, so I’m sorry, my inner thoughts were wrong😢
Excellent chapters!
Thank you, well done
great episode :)
I was not prepared to hear about those unconventional views Dickie had towards his own daughters. How strange! He spent so little time with them (maybe that was a good thing), especially during WWII, but it is still not an excuse for such "unfatherly" behavior towards one's own daughters. I wonder how his children felt about their unorthodox relationship with such a distant and weird father? He certainly dabbled in a lot...royalty cosplay, decorated naval officer and post-war work in India that to me seemed to be that of a British diplomat/governmental representative. When the book mentioned the start of Edwina's journey into menopause, all I could think was "Oh Lawd, here we go" - LOL!!! Dickie better buckle up, Buttercup!
Both Pamela and Patricia says that both of them were very close to their father and he wrote them regularly when he wasn't with them and sent them video, photos and gift with letters. They says he was very warm, caring and loving father.
He took great interest in their education and when he was with them he would go to their room at night and would tell them stories wouldn't leave their room until they fall sleep and they also says that they could says and share everything with their father.
They could even disagree and criticised he wouldn't mind that try to improve. He was same with his grandchildren.
On the other hand they described their mother as cold and distance and they often had to walk on egg shell around her because she would take anything personally could get upset easily.
@@krishnavyas313 That's interesting...thanks for sharing that information. To be honest, I lost a lot of respect for Dickie when I watched Andrew Lownie's two-part interview with Shauna, of The Vintage Read. I won't give any spoilers away, because we havent reached that part in the book, but I was disturbed by what Mr. Lownie unearthed in his research for his "The Mountbattens" book.
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As an Indian, I was always interested in Mountbattens.
I have watched author's interview on vintage read show and I also have completed this book on audible a year ago.
I am currently reading Mountbatten's youngest daughter Lady Pamela Hicks's book - Daughter of the Empire, my life as Mountbatten.
I mean people are multi-dimensional a criminal can also be loving and devoted father.
I was absolutely disgusted by mountbatten's behaviour with minor boys.
The more I read about previous century's people the more I Thank God that I wasn't alive at that time. Mountbatten was also sexualy compromised by his tutor when he was 12-13 and may be he enjoyed it he was of the era when it was legal to mary 13 years old girl nobody cared about charlie chaplain's wives age or Einstein's perverted behaviour or nobody cared even in 60's when Elvis started dating his 1st wife when she was just 14.
In high society Homosexuality if discrete was acceptable. Not just Mountbatten many High profile people were pedophile.
When read in books, news and articles, how in posh boarding schools, these royals and aristocrats boys sexualy compromised by pedo staff members, and boys having sex with each other with or without consent, no wonder many of them trun out very awful.
I can't digest that It was open secret that Edward VIII and prince george were bisexual but how could Mountbatten hide it very well?
I mean nobody even his enemies said anything about his sexuality while he was still alive or no blackmail from gigolo like they blackmail to prince George and no blackmail from maid like Edward VIII and Dickie's sister in law were blackmail by maid.
Thank God today people don't tolerate that kind of behavior but sadly I have heard stories that even in 1st world country like USA these still happens. In many USA states an adult man can still marry minor girl with her parent's consent.
@@krishnavyas313 Such a great comment! I have nothing against homosexuality if that is a person's personal preference, but I detest when adults target children and minors as sexual predators, especially when the children are made to feel trapped and at the mercy of their abusers. I, too, was disgusted by hearing Andrew Lownie discuss what he learned about Dickie Mountbattens' abuse of young Irish boys who were procured from boys' homes and sent to him to abuse. As for men who are attracted to young girls and teenagers, as you mentioned, it is something that we've seen in many eras over the space of time. More troubling is that in the year 2024, it is still legal for men to marry teenagers in some U.S. states with the consent of the girls' parents. My own great-aunt was married at the age of 14 back in the 1940's. She loved my great-uncle dearly who was 19 at the time of their marriage. They claimed they were childhood sweethearts, but I always thought to myself "what the heck?"...they had to be about 8 or 10 years old when they started to fall in love...they were just babies for goodness sakes!
@@lisalivingston6473 I also have nothing against Homosexuality but I hate pedophile.
I just mentioned Homosexuality because at that Homosexuality was illegal and if common men get caught red handed then they were chemically castrated like Alan Turing, he did so much for Britain and saved millions of life but he was chemically castrated, when they find out about his Homosexuality, and then he committed suicide, but these elite people were untouched. They could do water they wanted, even SA children and can face no consequences.
Yay ! been waiting for this :D
It's all fascinating !!!
I love this book and the job you so skillfully do in explaining it. I’m so over Harry, Meghan and Diana. Interesting at first but it’s been done to death! Move on. Keep up the good work. ❤
Love this type of content, keep it up!
He sounds like he knows he's dieing.
Yea! Mountbatten!
I just can't listen to scooby doos book
I agree he's not trying to be sexual, but dang, that letter is weird.
Just watched a chat between Megyn Kelly and Maureen Callahan I think is her name. I only know of her 🇦🇺 because she’s slammed Harry and duchess dog biscuit in the past.
WOW!!
It’s REALLY going to dispel some myths. Great choice.
There's a movie --The viceroys house ----pretty good
You mean about The Mountbattens?
The one with Hugh Bonneville and Gillian Anderson ?
Oh, it's excellent !
Interesting.
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So good.
So juicy 2
Noel Coward’d Diaries sound like an interesting read as he’s featured SO often in several of these books.
I just went to X to ask if there was a book he’d recommend or not only to find that he’s advertising the fact that Traitor King is selling for 99p 😂
Then I quickly went to Good Reads to check he hadn’t already written one. No. BUT he’s written Stalin’s Englishman about the spy Burgess & also found he’d written another on American spies.
I’m fascinated by Guy Burgess but it’s probably not to other subscriber’s taste as every channel seems to have more American subscribers than from anywhere else.
The Last Kaiser which I’ve mentioned before would be a good choice imo down the track.
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I was looking forward to this book, but find myself losing interest in these people.
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I must not be as understanding as Cheere Denise; 😂
But a parent being jealous of their spouse’s relationships with their own children is not something I cannot relate too! Crazy-Town!
Sry spell check- something I cannot relate too… lol
Queen Victoria was distant mother like Edwina and she was also jealous of Her children and her husband Albert's relationship.
Queen Victoria's father had died when she was just 8 months old and her was very strict and care about her lover more than she care about her daughter.
And Edwina's mother died young and her father wasn't that involved.
Both Victoria and Edwina didn't receive any love from parents and became self-centered and narcissist to cope with emotional negligence.
And got Jealous that their children are receiving more love from a parent than they ever did.
It's actually very common. The jealous parent is either a narcissist or was denied a loving relationship with whichever parent matches their spouse's role.
That Patricia obsession is truly icky😮my father was out of my life, but…maybe it could’ve been worse 😂
What was said????
give us Ask Not!!
I wonder if there was question about Pamela's paternity?
Pamela looks just like Dickie, so I don’t think there’s any doubt of her paternity.
I am so loving this book! I'm finding it endlessly fascinating that Dickie - a minor aristocrat - was on the fringes of the lives of THREE Monarchs (Edward VIII, George VI and our beloved Elizabeth II) playing at times a pivotal role in their reigns. It was almost like he was constantly within reach of the actual Crown without ever really being able to touch it. Cheere, does the book go all the way to the end of Dickies life? (hope I'm not spoiling anything for those not in the know...) 😉
I wouldn't call Mountbatten "a minor aristocrat". He was great grand son of Queen Victoria and was born as HSH prince Louis of battenberg.
His father became Marquess of milford haven and he himself became Earl mountbatten nothing is minor about him.
He was very close to his cousins George V, Edward VIII, George VI and Elizabeth II. He also had great influence over Charles III.
Old time virtue signaling. Disgraceful.