Thank you so much for this video, so instead of counting 1&2&3&4 in my head i'll be counting 123 123 123 123 in my head. I'm going to give it some practice. TY so much. :)
Does the 123 counting only apply to two quavers in a row? Like should we play every other note as straight notes ? Please see the sheet music for trinity piano grade 4 “please count”. It is confusing me😢
I cant pretend I fully get this - I cant read music. But I really like the presentation and by the end I understood the subtle differences. Nice informative style, very authoratative
Physical strength is a major factor -to keep right on that beat and not make it even harder by dragging . Strength can only be gained over time and it changes as with time . Thank you Gareth for all your lessons .
Absolutely. Physical strength is also relaxed. I find people lock up in the name of strength, which introduces technical and expressive barriers Thanks for your kind words.
From a jazz musician's point of view I would say: it depends on the tempo of a tune, whether you interpret the written notes as dotted eights or rather with a triplet feeling.
I'm digging lately into various swings since I'm producing electronic dance genres like house music and trying to apply some swing to almost pretty rigid quantized productions. So this music as you may know is based on 4/4 16th notes rhythmic pattern with usually straight kick and claps but with various other percussions elements that can benefit from swing settings, like hi-hat, shakers, congas etc. In a classic MPC sequencer the swing can go from 50% to 75% which for example a triplets swing is 66%. From what I read online septuplets are 57% and nonuplets at 55%. Lately I'm debating between these two settings for a song around 119 BPM for a touch of swing. Any suggestion between the two? Thanks.
Regular straight rhythm : sitting in your chair a correct position drinking tea or a fine wine. Swing rhythm: laying back in a recliner while sipping a beer.
Question.... if one were to play the "inner" note on the 1/3 rather than the 2/3 beat (thus dividing the beat 1:2 rather than 2:1) would that still count as "swing"? It would be swinging to the left rather than the right, so to speak. Is such a pattern ever used? If it's not "swing" does it have a name? Anti-swing?
Good evening! I just listened at you explanation and I do understand it intellectually very well. As I did classic singing, my difficulty is now to sing with the swing. I feel the 2 and 4 by dancing or claping in the hands, but I am not able to add the voice...and as I "controll" these chalenge, the result is that the tempo dicrease and dicrease until music stops...What would you suggest? Marianne from Nice/South of France (excuse me for my so so english...)
So in this swing example, the quarter note is played normally.Only the pair of eighth notes are affected by the swing instruction? Also, why wouldn't the swing instruction be "two eighth notes = dotted eighth + sixteenth"?
Hi. Yes, leave the quarter notes as they are. Dotted eighth plus sixteenth note is too pointed a rhythm for Swing - that’s why it’s a triplet ie division into 3 rather than into 4.
They are more or less the same. Shuffle is more solidly the triplet division. Swing is a little more flexible with different jazz musicians taking slightly different approaches to swing under the same general principle of triplet division.
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Hi - I just came across your video and really enjoyed it. If I can quickly give you my background....My late father introduced me to swing music when I was 8 (now 60) with the likes of Glenn Miller and "In the mood" "Chattanooga" "String of pearls" etc way before I played any instruments. Although I didn't realise it, that swing rhythm was embedding itself in my brain. The net result, I have been a "Jazzer" (sounds better than a "swinger" lol) for the past 50 years. So to my point. Everything I do is by ear and when I try to share the swing feel with others, I can't seem to write it out in a more simplistic way than notation. I like the way you explained it in bunches of 3. So what if I were to create a bar with 12 blank boxes and put a tick in the ones where a note is to be played? - would that be technically correct, or would it be too rigid like your dotted Quaver example? I would really appreciate your help with this if you have time to respond. Thank you, Peter.
Hi. Great to hear something of your back story. If you want to play 12 notes in a 4/4 bar then they would have to be quaver triplets. You could play them as triplets or you could play on the first and third of each triplet group.
Do you mean 16 beats or 16th notes? 16th notes are often not in swing but if you want them to be the same principle of approximately 2/3 followed by 1/3 applies.
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I've been trying to notate a song with a swing rhythm and was so stuck. Thank you so much, this has helped immensely.
That’s great.
Thank you so much for this video, so instead of counting 1&2&3&4 in my head i'll be counting 123 123 123 123 in my head. I'm going to give it some practice. TY so much. :)
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Does the 123 counting only apply to two quavers in a row? Like should we play every other note as straight notes ? Please see the sheet music for trinity piano grade 4 “please count”. It is confusing me😢
@balajisagargangadharan5146 basically you’ve got it.
I cant pretend I fully get this - I cant read music. But I really like the presentation and by the end I understood the subtle differences.
Nice informative style, very authoratative
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In school, I would joke about by swinging Ragtime pieces that weren't meant to be swung. Most notably, the Entertainer.
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Physical strength is a major factor -to keep right on that beat and not make it even harder by dragging . Strength can only be gained over time and it changes as with time . Thank you Gareth for all your lessons .
Absolutely. Physical strength is also relaxed. I find people lock up in the name of strength, which introduces technical and expressive barriers Thanks for your kind words.
Thank you so much for this I really appreciate it. I was super confused from a written explanation but this made it clear.😊
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@@MusicMattersGB I have a question: what is a polyphonic and homophonic texture??
Brilliant video. The only one I could find in the subject. I've been playing like that for years but never thought about the theory. Thank you.
A pleasure. Glad it’s helpful.
This is a great explanation, but how do you learn to internalize it? I can't set my metronome to "swing".
It’s a matter of getting a feel for the rhythm ie a relaxed rhythm inside a firm pulse.
@@MusicMattersGB What does that mean? What exercises can I do to develop that feel?
Use a compound beat.
Ed Siefker Listen to lots of jazz music, especially ‘old school’ (ie 1940/50’s). Then try to play simple things like scales, using the same feel.
All good advice. Instead of dividing a beat into two equal notes, divide it 2/3 1/3.
I've been looking for the difference between swing and shuffle rhythm. You've clearly answered my question. Thank you.
That’s great
GREAT EXPLANATION BY A GREAT TEACHER. TKS FROM BRAZIL
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Thanks for the simple explanation!
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Very helpful! Thank you, I was so confused and now swinging like a pro
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From a jazz musician's point of view I would say: it depends on the tempo of a tune, whether you interpret the written notes as dotted eights or rather with a triplet feeling.
That’s a fair point. Just establishing the fundamental principles here.
I'm digging lately into various swings since I'm producing electronic dance genres like house music and trying to apply some swing to almost pretty rigid quantized productions. So this music as you may know is based on 4/4 16th notes rhythmic pattern with usually straight kick and claps but with various other percussions elements that can benefit from swing settings, like hi-hat, shakers, congas etc. In a classic MPC sequencer the swing can go from 50% to 75% which for example a triplets swing is 66%. From what I read online septuplets are 57% and nonuplets at 55%. Lately I'm debating between these two settings for a song around 119 BPM for a touch of swing. Any suggestion between the two? Thanks.
Not sure what to suggest on that one but it sounds like an exciting project
Regular straight rhythm : sitting in your chair a correct position drinking tea or a fine wine. Swing rhythm: laying back in a recliner while sipping a beer.
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found it, right its the dotted rhythm im looking for? is there videos on that ??
Think in triplets and you will capture the Swing.
Thank you, what about when the 8th notes are written individually, do you count it as triplets?
Yes.
and what about rests does this rythm apply for them also in swing pieces?
Yes
this really helped!
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Question.... if one were to play the "inner" note on the 1/3 rather than the 2/3 beat (thus dividing the beat 1:2 rather than 2:1) would that still count as "swing"? It would be swinging to the left rather than the right, so to speak. Is such a pattern ever used? If it's not "swing" does it have a name? Anti-swing?
Swing rhythm is the 2+1. 1+2 is not swing but could be employed as a rhythm in a different context. I’m not aware of a name for that
@@MusicMattersGB Well I'm calling it swong now....
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Good evening! I just listened at you explanation and I do understand it intellectually very well. As I did classic singing, my difficulty is now to sing with the swing. I feel the 2 and 4 by dancing or claping in the hands, but I am not able to add the voice...and as I "controll" these chalenge, the result is that the tempo dicrease and dicrease until music stops...What would you suggest? Marianne from Nice/South of France (excuse me for my so so english...)
Try with a metronome.
Thanks for that, by chance do you know if Jimi Hendrix is playing a swing rhythm alternating to 4/4 in the song little wing?
I’m not sure about that particular example in which version but it’s very possible
What if it just says Swing and Straight written over the bars? Same thing? No quavers equal in the beginning?
Straight quavers means equal quavers. Swing quavers means what’s in this video.
So in this swing example, the quarter note is played normally.Only the pair of eighth notes are affected by the swing instruction? Also, why wouldn't the swing instruction be "two eighth notes = dotted eighth + sixteenth"?
Hi. Yes, leave the quarter notes as they are. Dotted eighth plus sixteenth note is too pointed a rhythm for Swing - that’s why it’s a triplet ie division into 3 rather than into 4.
I knew I would enjoy the video immediately after I heard his accent.
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You are a great teacher, you made it so easy to understand!
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Can you please tell me what is the difference between Swing and Shuffle Rhythm?????
They are more or less the same. Shuffle is more solidly the triplet division. Swing is a little more flexible with different jazz musicians taking slightly different approaches to swing under the same general principle of triplet division.
best explanation great video
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Your handwriting looks great!
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excellent as always.
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Hi - I just came across your video and really enjoyed it. If I can quickly give you my background....My late father introduced me to swing music when I was 8 (now 60) with the likes of Glenn Miller and "In the mood" "Chattanooga" "String of pearls" etc way before I played any instruments. Although I didn't realise it, that swing rhythm was embedding itself in my brain. The net result, I have been a "Jazzer" (sounds better than a "swinger" lol) for the past 50 years. So to my point. Everything I do is by ear and when I try to share the swing feel with others, I can't seem to write it out in a more simplistic way than notation. I like the way you explained it in bunches of 3. So what if I were to create a bar with 12 blank boxes and put a tick in the ones where a note is to be played? - would that be technically correct, or would it be too rigid like your dotted Quaver example? I would really appreciate your help with this if you have time to respond. Thank you, Peter.
Hi. Great to hear something of your back story. If you want to play 12 notes in a 4/4 bar then they would have to be quaver triplets. You could play them as triplets or you could play on the first and third of each triplet group.
Hi! You should do a video about how to compose a bass line.
Sure. Could do.... Happy new year
@@MusicMattersGB happy new year
Thank you very much
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How to swing 16 beats thanks
Do you mean 16 beats or 16th notes? 16th notes are often not in swing but if you want them to be the same principle of approximately 2/3 followed by 1/3 applies.
If you play it as a triplet rhythm then that's also called a shuffle tho, right? Swing can also be a dotted rhythm
Swing is not an exact science but the intention of this video is to get people into it.
I asked Google how to score swing. This. Many thanks.
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I don't get it 😔
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A Jazzer?! Oh mY !!
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Nobody says quaver.
Except the millions who do!
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You need to broaden your music vocabulary….
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Mini waltzes.
Sort of!
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But the jazz swing or gypsy jazz swing is different from the triplet shuffle or blues 8th notes swing
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