The Marvels Gets Worse Director Attacks Toxic Fans

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
  • The Marvels starring Brie Larson set the record for the worst Box Office in MCU history, revealing what we already knew to be true that the MCU is well and truly past it's best. However even though The Marvels flopped at the box office, and received bad reviews purely due to it being just a bad movie, fans are still getting targeted by media outlets as well as the director of The Marvels, for being toxic. This seems to be a running trend where if a movie flops it's pinned on the fans and toxic fandom, but where are these toxic fans for Marvel successes like Spider-Man, Black Panther or Black Widow?
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  • @triplehayes6416
    @triplehayes6416 Год назад +1209

    Henry cavil is a gem, it’s no wonder Hollywood blackballed him. He wouldn’t play into their bs narratives.

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost Год назад +116

      Yeah I truly admire the courage he had to walk away from the Witcher after netflix butchered it. They regret losing him.

    • @o.gparamount3099
      @o.gparamount3099 Год назад +9

      They didn't blackball cavil

    • @triplehayes6416
      @triplehayes6416 Год назад +75

      @@o.gparamount3099 yes they did shut up

    • @darkknight6219
      @darkknight6219 Год назад +54

      ​@@o.gparamount3099They literally did!!

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 Год назад +61

      @@o.gparamount3099just a coincidence they took the Superman role off him?

  • @johnbilberg1839
    @johnbilberg1839 Год назад +243

    The problem is that Hollywood has forgotten that it is their customers that pay their wages. When the product stinks, customers are going to say so.

    • @DudeInTheJacket123
      @DudeInTheJacket123 Год назад +18

      Not to mention that they are going to keep their wallets closed to them. Therefore, making them broke as hell.

    • @jeffbuchmann9287
      @jeffbuchmann9287 Год назад

      The customers don’t pay wages anymore..these companies are being subsidized by our current govt or companies black rock to push this narrative..That’s why Disney continues to put this shit out..they don’t care

    • @reginaknoll4321
      @reginaknoll4321 Год назад

      They have to drive DEI Agenda agressive, fast and furious, 'cause more and more hypnotized people are awake now, they see with their own eyes, that these so called female movie characters are SheMales! It's easy to spot, if people would knew about forced forensic anatomical features of men and women! Look at their bonestructure, massive necks, big heads, very big shoe sizes and very long arms! Look at Kathleen Kennedy, a SheMale with male bonestructure and very agressive look! If people could realize these elites, what they really are, it would be over with their power! That's their biggest fear, so they're programing the youth queer!

    • @Chrissimpson-oo4qx
      @Chrissimpson-oo4qx Год назад +1

      Actually the sad truth is the customers don't pay the wages the sad truth is Hollywood makes most of their money for lawsuits and litigation and replaying old movies over and over and over they have no need in their eyes to play the fans because even if they lose billions they're still making plenty of money just showing reruns of their old movies and definitely that's something fans don't really understand they're making way more money than they're losing off their old content and through litigation though lawyers and law thrums

  • @kodial79
    @kodial79 Год назад +888

    The problem with her is any criticism she will receive she will dismiss as racist or sexist.

    • @gouravchakraborty9801
      @gouravchakraborty9801 Год назад +29

      She is just another Caillou

    • @Lunsterful
      @Lunsterful Год назад +38

      Exactly. You don't like her movie? You must be racist and sexist. That's the only possible explanation. This is clearly a good movie! *inhales copium*

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 Год назад +18

      And everyone in the bubble she lives in will tell her she’s right…

    • @MrSoopah
      @MrSoopah Год назад +6

      The problem with her is there is no problem with her

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Год назад +6

      Marvel still propably wont let her film another movie just, because how bad director she is, when made Marvel lose shite ton of money. Marvel wont pick next time director, because of her race or skin color, when instead how well that person qualifies for the job, when I bet Marvel dosent want to lose shite ton of money again. She was only picked as director, because of her race and skin color, while she didnt qualify that well for the job at all, so thats why the story is so bad and the movie is meaningless. Its funny how these leftist people have been delusional thinking we would hate black female director. No we dont, but we like director that is good one in creating the movie and this black female director got privlidge in why she was picked, because of her gender and race, instead of did she qualify for the job that well. We dont hate at all the director, because her gender and skin color, when we just dislike terrible movies. It seems lefties have hard time getting this through their thick skull, when they think disliking her is just racism or sexism, when she was only picked as director, because of her gender and race.

  • @cryotherapy7557
    @cryotherapy7557 Год назад +127

    The real toxic fans are the ones who say that the bad movies are good☠️

    • @omgIoIwtf
      @omgIoIwtf Год назад +2

      Nah, the real toxic fans are people like you that can’t come to their own opinion. Y’all just keep regurgitating what subpar RUclipsrs say.

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Год назад +20

      @@omgIoIwtf
      “Your opinion makes me feel foolish for having mine, so I’m going to call you a sheep, even though I am the one letting my opinion of quality be dictated by a corporation”
      -you

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Год назад +8

      I watched it. It was terrible movie literally like it was written by teenagers acting sucked edited poorly villain was what you get with bad b grade movie.

    • @rogerkelsey
      @rogerkelsey Год назад +4

      @@omgIoIwtf I came to my own opinion, every Movie since No Way Home was absolutely trash. Thor love and thunder made a mockery of Thor in a bad way, not a funny way like in the original. Black Panther sucked. Ant Man was horrible with so many plot holes and just trash writing. GOTG3 was very meh and forgettable. Doctor Strange MOM had a few cool parts in the multiverse with the Fantastic Four scenes, but otherwise sucked, Morbius was a meme. The latest before like Eternals, Shang-Chi, Black Widow, just felt like they were popcorn flicks not adding anything to the universe, just there as filler to make some money.

    • @xXLethalWolfXx
      @xXLethalWolfXx Год назад

      @@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Ngl what you said made no sense and was nothing close to what he said. Your interpretation skills need some work gang.

  • @xtheflabeox8813
    @xtheflabeox8813 Год назад +212

    At what point do we get to blame the people who wrote Nick Fury saying black girl magic

  • @daveofyorkshire301
    @daveofyorkshire301 Год назад +128

    There are no fans to be toxic, they're called critics... Maybe if these people could accept criticism they might learn from their mistakes?

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Год назад +4

      Yes somehow they got so much power to make these movies, while cant accept at all, that somebody does not like it like crying baby, when every movie somebody dosent like. Even Ryan Johnson didnt like empire strikes back, that is weird in my opinion, when its the most loved Star Wars movie by all Star Wars fans.

    • @chronoshin8597
      @chronoshin8597 Год назад

      They won't accept criticism from opposite political aisle. They will double down to save America future.

    • @CaulkMongler
      @CaulkMongler Год назад +1

      Not a chance lol I think they’ve gone too far to admit any wrongdoing. They’d sooner simply act like nothing happened than admit they made a misstep

    • @daveofyorkshire301
      @daveofyorkshire301 Год назад +1

      @@gerrardbonitto-lw5ee What does that actually mean? I don't speak iconography or emoji, what does 3x💀 mean?
      Those that criticise are by definition critics. Please explain why you don't believe this to be true?

    • @daveofyorkshire301
      @daveofyorkshire301 Год назад +1

      @@gerrardbonitto-lw5ee You're wrong if they're toxic they're NOT fans. Stop presuming support you don't have...

  • @thongocdethuong2010
    @thongocdethuong2010 Год назад +73

    Every day I love Henry Cavill more and more.

  • @brandonpotts54
    @brandonpotts54 Год назад +102

    The crazy part is even the solid established female characters they had were torn down. To be replaced with shitty ones

    • @matthewflowers3465
      @matthewflowers3465 Год назад +4

      IE
      Scarlet Witch
      Black Widow
      I think the only “good” Female insert/swap was taskmaster and they didn’t really explore it

    • @destinyhntr
      @destinyhntr Год назад +5

      Agreed. I was invested in Scarlet Witch not because I was a woman but because her romance with Vision (and potential after his death) kept me engaged. Then they ruined her.

    • @icemanx5085
      @icemanx5085 Год назад

      I like Mrs Marvel but I am a girl dad she really hit those soft spots for me. She is easily my favorite female character right now. I rather enjoyed her in this movie.

  • @thacrypt223
    @thacrypt223 Год назад +139

    We live in a sick world where even if you are a super fan of a company, the day you dislike what they are doing and start calling them out on it, suddenly you are a bigot and sexist. Weird.

    • @misterfevillord1588
      @misterfevillord1588 Год назад +7

      Weird

    • @Cruddy129
      @Cruddy129 Год назад +6

      it aint weird if its becoming so common nowadays, you eventually just grow numb to it

    • @thacrypt223
      @thacrypt223 Год назад

      Well like @awhellnah__ said, it is still weird to me. I know it is getting common.@@Cruddy129

    • @FitnessGuru91
      @FitnessGuru91 Год назад +5

      That's when you call out anything now a days. You have to accept everything and can't go against the narrative. This world is so weak.

    • @arishemthejudge6780
      @arishemthejudge6780 Год назад +7

      @thestilt3792everyone hated thor love and thunder, what are you on about? im telling you the toxic ones are loud but that doesnt mean they are the majority. same is the case with the imaginary audience marvel is trying to pander to, you know, the ones on twitter. marvel assumed that those people constitute the majority of the fanbase when in reality its just one cause to another for those virtue signalling keyboard warriors. this really isn’t about women. everything after endgame has been bad

  • @rhye_guy7717
    @rhye_guy7717 Год назад +8

    imagine blaming a consumer for not purchasing a product they do not want.

  • @delta4135
    @delta4135 Год назад +135

    We are not fans of the movies that Disney is releasing. We are customers that will like something and don't like something else.
    It's not our fault for their comapny to have bunch of behinde a desk employees that are terrible in their work and instead of making a good product are forcing their degenerating ideas into it.

  • @EPICSAWIKI
    @EPICSAWIKI Год назад +14

    It still blows my mind how they insult their fan base. It’s just an awful business move.

  • @Mattblaze1477
    @Mattblaze1477 Год назад +73

    Its so predictable at this point its boring.

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  Год назад +6

      Getting crazy

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Год назад

      I dont understand how their so dumb, that they dont realize that most people didnt show up to the movie, because it was bad boring and meaningless movie with jokes nobody made laugh and charchters in stupid suits nobody cares about, because they become all powerful after getting their own suits out of nowhere and it was childish thing how they change places after using them. Let the low life leftist losers be delusional in thinking it was racism and sexism why the movie didnt succed, while the director was literally picked, because of her gender and race and not, because she qualified for the job well enough. Its funny how they try blame also misogyny, while 3/5 of the people who watched the movie were men, so these leftist crying losers should also call women sexist pigs, when they didnt show up either for this trash movie, when couldnt care less about meaningless and boring movie, like the Marvels.

    • @hzjake
      @hzjake Год назад +3

      Getting called as toxic fans so 2016. Nobody even cares

    • @svetlanaandrasova6086
      @svetlanaandrasova6086 Год назад +3

      Right? We all knew how badly this movie would do and also how they were going to react to it. With sexism accusations. And they will use the same after Echo flops.

  • @izzate7
    @izzate7 Год назад +1

    Doesn’t matter what anybody in Disney says. They follow the money, the money is going down the poop tube.

  • @valentinlopez6189
    @valentinlopez6189 Год назад +12

    Your analysis is spot on!
    The creators, directors and producers went in the direction starting with The Eternals!

  • @yurichtube1162
    @yurichtube1162 Год назад +1

    They double down, and keep on losing. This is not sustainable.

  • @OehrchenVT
    @OehrchenVT Год назад +33

    I imagine the director during Marvel filming just like: "STOP STOP... No.... you need to act worse, way worse! Less emotions, please!"

    • @user-dd5eh5lu3o
      @user-dd5eh5lu3o Год назад

      Do you want characters to be more or less emotional? Which one is better?

    • @OehrchenVT
      @OehrchenVT Год назад +1

      @@user-dd5eh5lu3o I would like appropriate emotions at the right point with the right expressions. And not acting like cabbage, being constantly arrogant or bossy when the character tries to tell us something else. Or what I don't want, and what Marvel tends to do, make inappropriate jokes at the worst time.

  • @gollinultra2337
    @gollinultra2337 Год назад +1

    It's like a chef cooks a freaking bad dish, and blame his customer for not having a good taste

  • @lurkerhood4557
    @lurkerhood4557 Год назад +74

    She's mad because we're right she was just a diversity hire. She wasn't hired for talent or experience but for race and gender.

    • @karlcharron3350
      @karlcharron3350 Год назад

      You're probably the kind to see "diversity hire" everywhere a minority is hired.

    • @dokkaebi757
      @dokkaebi757 Год назад +2

      @@gerrardbonitto-lw5ee this situation isn't as black and white as it is painted to be.
      Plenty of industries have reflected this influx of hiring for race and gender. I should know i was hired because of my skin color rather than my skillset.

    • @user-dd5eh5lu3o
      @user-dd5eh5lu3o Год назад +1

      I'd love to see your filmmaking skills. Where can we see your films and who bankrolled them, which studio?

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 Год назад

      @@user-dd5eh5lu3o I genuinely think most people here would do better than this director if given the job

  • @lunacy_xx
    @lunacy_xx Год назад +1

    When I heard the line "black girl magic" I made a huge facepalm, my head still hurts a little.

  • @TruBloodGaming
    @TruBloodGaming Год назад +74

    I love how a movie like Morbius, you could make fun of it and the company couldn’t tell if the fans were laughing at it or with it😂 But everytime it came to Captain Marvel, it’s all of a sudden toxic…

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Год назад +1

      Yeah we could complain about a primarily black movie without this response or any other group but Women what the hell seems to me the Women have become a special class of citizen.

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 Год назад

      you know what Sony not understand we were trolling actually made me like Morbius justva tiny bit more it was really bad however I was entertained by laughing it

    • @JohnDoe-id5ih
      @JohnDoe-id5ih Год назад

      ​@@patrickday4206In some cases they are special citizens. Men are as privileged as women, just in different things. But they will keep pushing this bs agenda to tell you otherwise

    • @sarov7658
      @sarov7658 Год назад

      @@theoutsiderjess1869 yes like how can be this dumb and out of touch they thought the Meme is praising it and re released

  • @jayhanson-hs5vg
    @jayhanson-hs5vg Год назад +1

    if words are violent then nia is the most violent saying that fans are phobes and racist its laughable

  • @ObeseCaligula
    @ObeseCaligula Год назад +26

    It's ok, I identify as toxic.
    💪🏻🤠

    • @svetlanaandrasova6086
      @svetlanaandrasova6086 Год назад

      No joking. I noticed that if they accuse me of being sexist or something and I just reply "ok" and dont fight with them,they go nuts.

    • @BaconMinion
      @BaconMinion Год назад +1

      I've been called everything in the 20+ years I've been online. After the first few times of being called whatever, the shock wears off and you just see it for what it is; an attempt to shut you down while dodging the real issue.
      I've stopped caring what people call me to try and instantly win an argument because they assume I'll be scared. I keep going at them anyway, and when they have no actual response, I laugh at them for thinking that their implications are a magical shield.

  • @NA-lp2re
    @NA-lp2re Год назад +1

    Can’t it just be that everyone is sick of Avengers movies and they’re running out of material?

  • @logicomega7
    @logicomega7 Год назад +5

    I think Disney has the view of manipulating and changing fans more than selling a product people want.

  • @thesaltygunner217
    @thesaltygunner217 Год назад +2

    It was never about the money. It was always about sending a message.

  • @Thetache
    @Thetache Год назад +22

    As soon as the creators start using the words "toxic, racist, sexist or any variation of phobic" in the rationalisation of their shitty movies box office failure you know it is all just close minded delusion speaking. Keep going Marvel and you will get your pre ordained result of implosion.

  • @stormtrooper4
    @stormtrooper4 Год назад +1

    The amount of flak Marvel and the Marvels are getting is INSANE. 💀

  • @robpacyna3511
    @robpacyna3511 Год назад +8

    I feel people/fans are done with woke, terrible entertainment, and being blamed for Hollywood's mistakes and are are now looking for alternate forms of entertainment.

    • @channela2718
      @channela2718 Год назад +3

      Agree, I’m tired with all the woke stuff, I just want a normal movie like before😂!
      Every single movie have these kind of things in nowadays…… I don’t mind to be honest , but stop telling us or force us to watch/agree😂!

  • @PFWoody488
    @PFWoody488 Год назад +1

    "We keep insulting and demonizing you! How dare you not applaud, and give us your money!?! You're all TOXIC!!!"
    The sound of entitlement.
    I will enjoy my popcorn as I watch these studios self destruct.

  • @einokeino303
    @einokeino303 Год назад +12

    When calling someone MCU fan has become more insulting than calling them toxic :D

  • @gardeningsnail
    @gardeningsnail Год назад +1

    Older grandma here. Instead of passing the torch to new characters, they just decided to torch all the old ones

  • @commodorerook3797
    @commodorerook3797 Год назад +3

    Hearing Henry speak in his normal voice reinforces he would be perfect as James Bond!

  • @MrDYBYF8
    @MrDYBYF8 Год назад +1

    The Spider-man game franchise is next to get a rude awakening about it's game, disrespect and attacking fans

  • @jm-ol5db
    @jm-ol5db Год назад +5

    I mean everyone told them since the begining "nobody wants this" and everyone mentioned how it was gonna flop and they still went ahead and did it and found out the fans dont care for it.

  • @bretclements6847
    @bretclements6847 Год назад +1

    What ever happened to "The customer is always right"? The movie goer being the customer

  • @paulrobinson3213
    @paulrobinson3213 Год назад +38

    Of course Henry Cavil didn't fall for the woke mess. He is a man's man.

    • @dragonmummy1
      @dragonmummy1 Год назад

      He s a terrible Actor with all the charisma of a butler.

    • @paulrobinson3213
      @paulrobinson3213 Год назад +2

      @@dragonmummy1 He slept your Mom didn't he? Tell the truth.

  • @zacharylortie2786
    @zacharylortie2786 Год назад +2

    "You liked us before this, so take this shit and swallow it or you're toxic" -MCU 2023

  • @DarthVader1273
    @DarthVader1273 Год назад +140

    From the moment this dumpster fire was announced, I knew it was headed for failure and that we would be blamed relentlessly. Saw all of this coming from MILES away

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  Год назад +15

      I don’t think she meant any harm but I find these industry professionals just don’t realise how disrespectful and arrogant it comes across

    • @DarthVader1273
      @DarthVader1273 Год назад +6

      @@thejessegrantI agree. So many people in Hollywood are entitled, out of touch, and disrespectful. They never seem to remember that the service they offer is a luxury, not a necessity. And they also are slowly realizing there are alternatives to their garbage.

    • @crashthedarklordplays2668
      @crashthedarklordplays2668 Год назад

      light years you mean right ?

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 Год назад +4

      @@DarthVader1273 they literally detest the actual fanbase

    • @rpgadventurer32
      @rpgadventurer32 Год назад +6

      @@thejessegrant She meant harm, yes, because she hates the core audience of the genre - which are men - and because the only reason she got the job in the first place was because of box checking. She's not there because of merit or talent.

  • @moonpigeon
    @moonpigeon Год назад +2

    Yup, can confirm the producers for the production companies making content for marvel are about fast and cheap.
    Most tv and film projects, fast and cheap, is the model.
    Marvel is a good example, they have been moving thier production work to the UK in an order to save even more money and get away from paying working crew (laborers) and their union contracts.
    Most Hollywood producers will have a script rewritten on the fly in order to cut costs or avoid adding a couple days to a project.

  • @dookiepuddle
    @dookiepuddle Год назад +5

    Cavil used logic, Nia used emotion. Not surprised here.

  • @knightmare_edits
    @knightmare_edits Год назад +2

    The funny thing is that they think WE are the toxic ones.

  • @cmasterson
    @cmasterson Год назад +21

    I just asked my wife why she hasn’t seen it. She said she doesn’t care and rather see Madame Web. Showed her the trailer and she said it had all her favorite actresses in it and I didn’t even notice who the actresses were.

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Год назад

      Just shows that women didnt give fock about the movie either, so the sexist leftists low life losers in Twitter are wasting time blaming men why the movie didnt succed.

    • @masonhamilton83
      @masonhamilton83 Год назад +3

      I asked my wife about the movie and she didn’t know it was coming out, and we’ve seen every Marvel cinematic release the last couple years besides The Eternals. I explained what characters are in it and she has no interest in seeing it .

    • @cmasterson
      @cmasterson Год назад

      @@masonhamilton83 exactly. I had did the same with my wife. She watched WandaVision without me and liked it. But I don’t think she watched anything after that. And she love Marvel just not the new stuff coming out.

    • @0execute
      @0execute Год назад

      Because even for women, why would I want to watch something that preaches to other people that women are better. It was cool 1 time but repeatedly watching it isn't necessary.

  • @camarossdriver
    @camarossdriver Год назад +2

    If you walked into the theater drooling,and having an IQ of 11…this film would still be an insult to your intelligence.

  • @zyswanson7865
    @zyswanson7865 Год назад +39

    The reason why they're calling the fanbase toxic, racist, and sexist is because they themselves are those things. Think about it, why else would they try to force these things onto the masses?

  • @Neilos-sd6ti
    @Neilos-sd6ti Год назад +1

    "Attacking toxic fans" is like attacking the boogeyman, they are swinging a sword in the air and only wasting their resources, hurting their bottom line.

  • @metalrules1135
    @metalrules1135 Год назад +20

    It's like preparing a meal that you know someone hates for them. Then being mad at them for not wanting to eat it and tell you what a great cook you are.

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 Год назад +3

      To quote Margo/Erin from "The Menu", "I don't like your food, and I would like to send it back!"

    • @JohnDoe-id5ih
      @JohnDoe-id5ih Год назад

      Don't let bro cook

  • @LKaramazov
    @LKaramazov Год назад +2

    The tragedy to me is how they’ve destroyed the Nick fury character.

  • @grahamhannah2108
    @grahamhannah2108 Год назад +18

    A fan cannot be “toxic.”
    A fan simply loves the thing, story, or product being produced and when that is altered, diminished, or replaced with something else not as good as the original then the fan has every right to complain and criticize what is being made.
    Marvel is currently turning the fandom away and the fans are saying “I used to be a fan.”
    Do better Marvel and these fans will return.

    • @grahamhannah2108
      @grahamhannah2108 Год назад +2

      @@gerrardbonitto-lw5ee
      Apathy is not toxicity.
      Marvel is currently producing a substandard product surrounded by poorly developed characters that fans are not invested in or care about.
      That is Marvel being lazy and blaming the fans for not supporting Marvel’s weak lack of effort.

    • @johnhallow
      @johnhallow Год назад

      @@gerrardbonitto-lw5ee fr 💀

    • @Mr.Mister412
      @Mr.Mister412 Год назад +1

      @@gerrardbonitto-lw5ee
      Fans want good movies it’s their right to complain, they paid for it.

  • @k3wld3wd95
    @k3wld3wd95 Год назад +1

    When a movie sucks, it makes me wanna go watch it when the directors/producers call me racist... cuz I'm stupid.

  • @forsociopoliticalstuff2629
    @forsociopoliticalstuff2629 Год назад +3

    These studios paradoxically want a built-in fanbase that is passionate, merch-hungry, and will argue (in this case in defense of it) over them, but don’t want ones that care about things such as consistency, accurate lore, non-arbitrary changes, or at times even general quality. It’s pretty insane really.

  • @EsteemedReptile
    @EsteemedReptile Год назад +1

    As it turns out, toxic fans coincidentally have the best taste in movies. Weird.

  • @henrybialik8333
    @henrybialik8333 Год назад +2

    My Money, My Choice! I am not going to spend my hard earned money on Disney's BS movies.

  • @TheMattst73
    @TheMattst73 Год назад +7

    It's your boss honey, they turned on the fan base. Trying to get back angry customers is very hard to do. That is basic business management 101.

  • @advanceddarkness3
    @advanceddarkness3 Год назад

    Do any of them think that just maybe after Infinity Wars nobody cares about superhero movies anymore. They had a good run, but how long do you want to milk them?

  • @jpao1834
    @jpao1834 Год назад +7

    I watched the movie after reading some reviews (no spoiler reviews), just to be completely fair.
    The plot felt like it was just a filler episode. It's really unfortunate since I liked the concept of their 3-way tag team connection, but everything felt so rushed. Also, there are a ton of "1 time use" characters/planets that were used for plot progression lmao.

  • @sonicjaxon8107
    @sonicjaxon8107 Год назад

    I remember the good ol days where I could not wait for a marvel movie to come out, always on top of every movie ready to continue the mcu timeline from 2008-2019. Now it’s so bad it feels like they had a meeting to gather the worst writers and said “do whatever you want with the mcu”. Honestly idk how mcu came this far to be this bad now. Hulk sucks, Thor is a joke, ant man I guess is that damn strong to beat kang, then we have comedic marvels. Sad times

  • @noneyabizz8337
    @noneyabizz8337 Год назад +63

    It's kinda hilarious that the tactic is to attack the fans and not the material. Fans, people who like the source material. Fans, people who will give you their money and devotion.
    But they attack the fanbase.

    • @Cedisdead
      @Cedisdead Год назад +1

      Imagine being a adult disney fan 😂

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 Год назад +4

      @@Cedisdead I can envision that. Just as I can see that there are tons of people too oblivious to look at their own behaviors while they judge another.

    • @vivaraulito
      @vivaraulito Год назад +1

      Nah the fans are toxic af at this point I don’t care for the movie myself that’s why I don’t bother bringing it up or even speaking on it and I won’t watch it without a care in the world, but y’all really go out your way to search movie on all social media platforms just to spam hate, death threats and all this excessive bullshit…. Crazy how you think that’s justified behavior or okay in any way y’all really need to grow up fr

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 Год назад +3

      @raulpernas6955 some of that behavior is inexcusable, but it's certainly not the norm.
      Most fans just don't want their lifelong Fandom to be bastardized and filled with hate for them, then to be blamed when the fan doesn't enjoy that.
      What's toxic, and very much more prevalent that what you cited, those that defend media that hates the fanbase.

    • @Cedisdead
      @Cedisdead Год назад

      @@noneyabizz8337 yeah when going through these comments there are alot ALOT of people who seem to care about that garbage company, but I don't know the ratio of Disney fans/extreme rightist they are pretty close.

  • @dcfmkyn
    @dcfmkyn Год назад

    What is amazing is that the entertainment society has come to a point where those that MAKE the product get to tell those that BUY the product how they should about FEEL said product. I can't believe this!!! If your customers (the people that spend THIER MONEY) don't like your product (the think you are ATTEMPITING TO SELL), then MAKE A BETTER PRODUCT!
    Disney has been told time and time again that fans do not want politics or gender-based agendas in their movies. Especially in decades old franchises like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc. Movies are meant to be an escape from world issues, not a constant bombardment of them. If they want to pander to certain societal groups, then make honest movies that deal with those social issues. Don't put agendas in movies that have nothing to do with those agendas.

  • @sophiaisabelle027
    @sophiaisabelle027 Год назад +7

    Seems like this is basically an act of tug-of-war between the Marvels director and the haters. Nobody wins in this conflict. It's either they go home or win big at the casino.

    • @kodial79
      @kodial79 Год назад +4

      I win because I didn't spend my money to watch it. 😉

    • @minhnguyencong2084
      @minhnguyencong2084 Год назад +1

      Nah the marvel director are gonna lose because they are losing money making film like this

    • @juanio7036
      @juanio7036 Год назад

      Haters? So now fans are haters because they don’t want to go spend their money on movies which are badly written and which the characters aren’t well developed or enjoyable to watch. Ok

  • @isfj1009
    @isfj1009 Год назад +2

    Your video is spot on.

  • @clowreed99
    @clowreed99 Год назад +5

    Jesus Christ Henry Cavill! You're a Godsend for all Fandom! 💯

  • @MyFatherLoves
    @MyFatherLoves Год назад

    It's crazy to me that a company is employing someone who is attacking a core fanbase. Literally anywhere you work, if you attack a customer, you are FIRED. Blacklisted. Gonzo. We're talking about one of the most powerful companies on earth..... Why is the leadership so incredibly weak now?

  • @M星の水晶
    @M星の水晶 Год назад +5

    Check list~ We're now in "Them blaming the fans" and "Name calling paying customers" part of this weird cycle they won't, or some how can't, leave.

    • @hzjake
      @hzjake Год назад

      And the cycle will continue...

    • @M星の水晶
      @M星の水晶 Год назад

      @@hzjake Yup. Rinse and repeat.

  • @andredaedone7732
    @andredaedone7732 Год назад

    Guess I had more power than I thought. If fans are causing their problems, then they are not fans. They are the opposite of fans.

  • @Missjunebugfreak
    @Missjunebugfreak Год назад +6

    I knew when this trash flopped that the director would start calling the fans/audience names. It's inevitable at this point that it truly is pathetic. You'd think these Hollywood people would have learned by now that going about this kind of attacking of fans is a bad look but nope, they clearly lack common sense and humility.

  • @crawdaddyy
    @crawdaddyy Год назад

    Marvel and Disney never praised or thanked us for the overwhelming success of phase 1-3, but yet somehow we need to take responsibility for the failures of phase 4+ ??? That makes no sense. The fans haven’t changed, if anything they’ve repeatedly bought into more and more changes than any other fan base. It’s Disney and Marvel who have clearly changed, and as we learned with Star Wars (literally the same company), when their new ideas fall flat and fans do not accept them, rather then go back to the drawing board, they push forwarded with their unpopular idea; all the while claiming it’s the fault of the fans. Not only that but they throw every insult and ism at the fans, hoping to scare them away for recognizing how disastrous the studio has become…. We are the consumers. If you want to make your crappy movies, then so be it. Just don’t expect everyone to go along with it.

  • @mstp14
    @mstp14 Год назад +23

    I find it funny that they are literally giving their fans the disgruntled ex-girlfriend defense. "HE is so toxic, misogynistic, controlling .... etc". There is no way that the movie sucked... They want fans to literally and figuratively shut up and protect/ provide for the movie no matter how awful of a girlfriend she is ... i mean movie,, movie..

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Год назад

      Hahaha well said default narrative with women these days. 😂 and people wonder why people aren't getting married and having kids😅😂

    • @JohnDoe-id5ih
      @JohnDoe-id5ih Год назад +1

      I will say this: the words "¡ncel" and "mis0gyn¡stic" are being thrown around waaay too much. Basically , if you don't agree with a view from a girl, you are a v¡rgin.
      Sorry about the words being covered, youtube looooves to delete "offensive" comments.

    • @jeffreyclinard2002
      @jeffreyclinard2002 Год назад

      I thought I read somewhere that the audience was two thirds male. If it was aimed at women, why did they stay away from this? I mean, didn't Barbie aim for a female audience and found it, big time?

  • @psychologicalprojectionist
    @psychologicalprojectionist Год назад +2

    How can they blame fans?
    They haven't got any !!!

  • @Cometstarlight
    @Cometstarlight Год назад +5

    Gotta love them trying to blame men for not liking their half baked concept of a movie when there’s loads of women, myself included who went, “I ain’t wasting my time on this one.”

  • @Bradleythebarbell
    @Bradleythebarbell Год назад

    How are they toxic if they just don’t want to see it?

  • @MTbone7
    @MTbone7 Год назад +12

    Toxic or not these are the fans. You need to make a movie that your fans like

    • @jout738
      @jout738 Год назад

      Their tactic is always be crybaby and waste time complaining about the fans for nothing, when their horrendous dogshite movie dosent succed.

    • @svetlanaandrasova6086
      @svetlanaandrasova6086 Год назад +1

      I agree. Like if you run a restaurant. You must offer meals customers want so they keep coming and you make money.

  • @rogerkelsey
    @rogerkelsey Год назад

    The main problem is probably how this money is budgeted out. You have your above the line, below the line, post production and other teams that are all getting PAID OUT OF THE BUDGET SET. Which parts of these teams are overpaid because they are "forced" to use certain people for things. Prop guy could be an exec's buddy who gets $10,000,000 of the budget even tho he's only giving back $200,000 worth of props. There is definitely some laundering in the budgets used to create these movies. Kathleen is probably budgeting herself $50,000,000 so she can make some behind the scenes $$ to retire with.

  • @peerlessneedle4272
    @peerlessneedle4272 Год назад +3

    If they don't pay to see your movies, they are not your fans. They are potential customers you drive away.
    It's funny how the studios forgot that and think everyone should just throw money at them.

  • @notredboi
    @notredboi Год назад

    They really refuse to learn don't they?

  • @marvinbange1216
    @marvinbange1216 Год назад +5

    Its so sad that this whole "attacking the fans for not praising bad stuff" has kinda become the industry standard nowadays. I feel like after the rings of power which did this like no tomorrow it got only worse by the day

  • @Elipequedo
    @Elipequedo Год назад +1

    What is toxic is filmmakers and studios who make horrible movies and have contempt for the audience.

  • @Kendro311
    @Kendro311 Год назад +4

    It's so weird how we went from accountability to blame as the norm over the course of a few years. Throughout history people were generally realistic I'd say, when it comes to business anyways. If a movie got trashed it was usually because it deserved it, people involved accepted it and tried to do better next time. But now they can just put out garbage and just point at everyone else.

  • @TheCreateOutdoors
    @TheCreateOutdoors Год назад

    I have watched so many of these videos now and I think I have noticed the bigger picture problem: there aren't foundations anymore. We had four years of solo movies before the first avengers. Money has taken over the foundations of it all.

  • @cwjackowitz
    @cwjackowitz Год назад +4

    The fan is the BOSS. We pay for these things. If the person paying for the product isn't happy, that's not our fault. WE ARE THE BOSS!

  • @arielbelle1621
    @arielbelle1621 Год назад

    I think also that with this movie not reviewed well coupled with the inflation rate, I believe most people would rather spend their money on something well made verses something mediocre. The studio has only themselves to blame.

  • @2008tmp
    @2008tmp Год назад +3

    It's wild that the fans are being blamed. You can't force an old school football fan to suddenly be a WNBA fan. You have to bring in and grow your audience and appeal with your content.

  • @greggfridline4260
    @greggfridline4260 Год назад

    they literally came out and said these movies are not for us yucky men, but now that we did what they said and not watch them, we are all A holes, and they way they tried getting us back was makings us all look like pigs, but at least they put kittens in the movie to get more women to watch.

  • @BirdsFlyinHigh
    @BirdsFlyinHigh Год назад +3

    Henry Cavill is a national treasure at this point. There is a reason why so many people love him.

  • @LOTUG98
    @LOTUG98 Год назад

    Toxicity is getting to be default excuse to not take responsibility for your shortcomings.

  • @CharlesJohnson-k1o
    @CharlesJohnson-k1o Год назад

    The studio exectives are almost always dictatorial. Power corrupts

  • @Kuroganemk2
    @Kuroganemk2 Год назад +9

    The only thing that I fear is that these people are so much up their asses that they will believe that it's not the woke bs that is killing their movies but that superhero movies just aren't popular anymore, and also blame the fans in some way instead.

  • @classic3511
    @classic3511 Год назад

    Will they ever understand that they are the toxic ones?

  • @kron1379
    @kron1379 Год назад +5

    So that’s ALL the fans then lol
    The problem with most of Hollywood is that writers and directors and I would even assume SFX creators are not being hired because of their talent but because of their political stance. The writing and direction and conception of all the MCU movies since Endgame have been woeful. The plots are mostly random nonsense. I’ve seen better and more interesting plots on kids TV shows.

  • @gaminggladiator06
    @gaminggladiator06 Год назад

    It sucks, because all these directors and pretty much everyone at disney seem to be making movies just for some alterior motive.
    It’s like they don’t even care for what they make, as long as they get the message out.
    But fans don’t want to be in a stranglehold throughout the film over what the director is tryingto push, they just wanna have fun watching a movie. Movies before were about the experiences and emotions conveyed in them, and if they did have a sort of message, it was much more subtle and spread out in the film, rather than being so thinnly veiled, you could see right through it, and just thrown in people’s faces the whole time.
    Good story writing leaves the audience guessing and surprised, but these movies are just not doing that, and it’s a shame that the industry is taking such a turn for the worse like this, and i do believe that it’s be crashing to the ground if it doesn’t change course, asap.

  • @troubledjoe6201
    @troubledjoe6201 Год назад +8

    Marvel films aren’t becoming less popular, their appeal is becoming more selective.

    • @Cruddy129
      @Cruddy129 Год назад

      and the constant woke BS that isnt even that smart when put together is driving more people away from them

    • @troubledjoe6201
      @troubledjoe6201 Год назад

      @@Hjk448 Reference to a much better film ruclips.net/video/UZ6JxAgmxXg/видео.html

  • @KelAda44
    @KelAda44 Год назад

    They are really reaching for something, any sort of success; they claim that it made history being the highest grossing superhero movie directed by a black female director....and the other one was?

  • @syafeeqahisham1740
    @syafeeqahisham1740 Год назад +5

    Somehow,the director really needs to gey their head (excuse my language) out of their asses. And i mean it. The good news is i finally get to watch some marvel what ifs season 2 because at least that serjoues has a creative storyline that doesnt feel out of pocket. Also,credits to the writers of marvel what ifs for making interesting alternate universes for each episodes of that series.

    • @mkocel
      @mkocel Год назад

      what if is woke garbage too though

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 Год назад

      @@mkocel no it’s not have you seen it lmao it is one of our last hopes for good marvel content

  • @broncorik2268
    @broncorik2268 Год назад

    I wasn’t really planning on seeing the Marvels in theater anyway but I’m certainly not now

  • @thacrypt223
    @thacrypt223 Год назад +6

    Just watched the last episode of Loki season 2. I am still SHOCKED that this is made by the same company. That ending was one of the most satisfying endings I have seen for a series in a long time. Compare it to the Marvels, and it is like night and day.

    • @r3dr4te963
      @r3dr4te963 Год назад +1

      Tbf, some of the series handled by different people and "faction". Like early Mandalorian series which under Favreau direction were good, then later season were taken by KK. I don't know about Loki tho

    • @Cedisdead
      @Cedisdead Год назад +1

      All Disney makes is absolute garbage, wake up and get some standards

    • @thacrypt223
      @thacrypt223 Год назад

      First was worse than second, although both seasons were good tbf. @@r3dr4te963

    • @thacrypt223
      @thacrypt223 Год назад

      No one asked you to say shit. @@Cedisdead

    • @shootergaming5929
      @shootergaming5929 Год назад +1

      @@Cedisdead Yeah almost everything now is just garbage but not loki it's not connected to MCU it's more like an separate story that's why I liked it. Watch it once before coming to a conclusion .

  • @bajorekjon
    @bajorekjon Год назад +2

    Disney is so good at gaslighting and dividing their fan base it's ridiculous.

  • @adriansepulveda9452
    @adriansepulveda9452 Год назад

    Come on. This is not news. We knew that the director was going to blame anything other than themselve.

  • @zact0m
    @zact0m Год назад

    Why is she attacking the people that have seen the movie more than the target demographic.

  • @inspireeffect
    @inspireeffect Год назад

    "too woke?" They always want to force their ideas to their audience and if the fans don't like it they'll just label them as toxic.

  • @statix1
    @statix1 Год назад

    How can we be toxic if we don't care.